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Big win already for the Ds - "Pentagon Review Sees Three Options in Iraq" - Bowser - 11/20/2006 5:58:34 AM

"The Forgotten Battleground" - and the US is arming the ROW. - Bowser - 11/19/2006 11:14:04 PM

Inhofe may be leaving the Environment and Public Works Committee entirely.... - et - 11/19/2006 7:49:59 PM

FnF to Inhofe: Is global warming a hoax? Guess what he says.... - et - 11/17/2006 9:48:54 PM
- The guy is a Senator, duly elected to show Bush isn't the dumbest Republican. - Bowser - 11/18/2006 5:37:03 AM
- "...there is no real scientific debate over whether global warming is manmade or naturally-caused." - TB - 11/18/2006 3:35:16 AM
- Guess what...he's right. - SDAI-Tech1 - 11/18/2006 2:55:00 AM
  - Are these scientists **shudder** European??? (n/t) - tony - 11/18/2006 3:14:56 AM
    - Bingo! All too many. (gasp) - SDAI-Tech1 - 11/18/2006 3:27:44 AM
  - Far right by my measure, and a bit nutz. (n/t) - et - 11/18/2006 2:55:49 AM
- Error in article - E.P. - 11/18/2006 12:12:04 AM
  - For that matter there is no "Scientific Consensus" that the Earth is spheroidal. - et - 11/18/2006 2:55:03 AM
    - Here's one way to do your part to end global warming - E.P. - 11/18/2006 3:55:47 PM
      - re: Yes, well you Eddie are just one of many "some"! (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 11/18/2006 11:56:21 PM
        
        In your mature considered opinion, Chris - E.P. - 11/19/2006 6:55:15 AM
        
        re: Got some age problem Eddie? - Chris Vancil - 11/19/2006 7:44:59 AM
- Too bad God couldn't lend a hand in Iraq. - ER - 11/17/2006 9:59:30 PM
  - God has lent a hand in Iraq. - SDAI-Tech1 - 11/18/2006 2:25:24 AM
    - God is on our side? - Alan G. Archer - 11/18/2006 3:35:22 AM

Gonzales is, theoretically, supposed to enforce the law. - Bowser - 11/19/2006 4:51:38 AM
- Link. - Bowser - 11/19/2006 4:52:44 AM

Highly symbolic! - Raoul - 11/19/2006 12:01:55 AM
- Ho, Ho, Domino (n/t) - ER - 11/19/2006 4:26:59 AM

Crazy Web Claims Pretty Much Confirmed By Newsweek - Eric - 11/18/2006 3:45:00 PM
- re: Crazy Web Site not shut down - TB - 11/18/2006 9:36:45 PM
- Baker â€œonce described Bush 43â€™s core principles as â€˜God and exercise,â€™â€ - Lindy - 11/18/2006 5:53:08 PM

PM Blair on Al Jazeera - Raoul - 11/18/2006 2:11:09 PM

THE PLAN - So help me Gawd. - Bowser - 11/17/2006 6:32:35 PM
- Have you ever listened to a liar or crook tell you what you want to hear? - Lindy - 11/18/2006 2:55:17 AM
- re: THE PLAN - So help me Gawd. - Jack Herer - 11/17/2006 6:56:40 PM

A first step towards accountability - Raoul - 11/17/2006 4:25:14 PM
- It's time we hold Europe's leaders accountable. - SDAI-Tech1 - 11/18/2006 1:24:43 AM
- Oops...never mind. - TB - 11/17/2006 6:28:55 PM
  - re: Nevertheless, a first step.... (n/t) - Raoul - 11/17/2006 7:06:45 PM
    - A step towards making a joke out of the German court system. (n/t) - Scott Evil - 11/17/2006 7:12:33 PM
      - re: A step towards some publicity around the case - Raoul - 11/17/2006 10:35:26 PM
  - Politics, not justice. (n/t) - Bowser - 11/17/2006 6:33:39 PM
- Yes. With genocide going on all over the world. Slavery practiced all over Africa...They are taking down Rumsfield. - Scott Evil - 11/17/2006 4:43:08 PM

The Rise of the Independents? - TB - 11/16/2006 9:37:17 PM
- Works fine for our municipal elections - FrankC - 11/17/2006 7:27:57 PM
- re: The Rise of the Independents? - Robert - 11/17/2006 6:31:07 PM
- Why thank you - Hans - 11/17/2006 4:09:19 PM
- re: The Rise of the Independents? - I like it too. - Marcia - 11/17/2006 3:43:15 AM
- Would that be the lesser of a plethora of evils for you ? - Publius - 11/17/2006 2:38:49 AM
- So who should we listen to, the boaring and dull Leiberman or the dull and boaring Leiberman? (n/t) - RobVG - 11/17/2006 1:14:13 AM
  - Leiberman and McCain are the Wild Cards - Lindy - 11/17/2006 2:43:59 AM
    - Those were just current examples - TB - 11/17/2006 3:37:51 PM
    - I don't trust Biden but I kinda like him. - RobVG - 11/17/2006 2:59:34 AM

A first! - Raoul - 11/17/2006 7:04:37 PM

Somalia, Iran, Hezbollah, uranium, and the big picture. - TB - 11/17/2006 2:29:10 AM
- I hear Haliburton is working on drilling technology for radioactive oil fields. - Scott Evil - 11/17/2006 3:31:42 PM

The latest from Chad - Euro supported genocide - SDAI-Tech1 - 11/17/2006 11:25:22 AM
- Even more... - SDAI-Tech1 - 11/17/2006 12:00:06 PM
  - ...and a parting shot from Human Rights Watch - SDAI-Tech1 - 11/17/2006 12:07:46 PM
    - Who cares as long as they pump oil. - Scott Evil - 11/17/2006 3:24:29 PM

Afghan conflict deaths quadruple - Bowser - 11/12/2006 10:08:01 PM
- Why are you upset? - Lee - 11/14/2006 5:24:26 PM
- re: Afghan conflict deaths quadruple - Lindy - 11/13/2006 3:36:42 PM
- I predict war in Afghanistan survives surrender in Iraq by about a year. - TB - 11/13/2006 2:29:20 AM
  - Your dominos are showing. (n/t) - alcaray - 11/14/2006 7:06:02 PM
    - You got some reason to show otherwise? - TB - 11/14/2006 11:51:47 PM
      - Mexico never went communist. The Soviets never invaded. (n/t) - alcaray - 11/15/2006 5:04:27 PM
        
        Plenty of other nations almost went communist - TB - 11/16/2006 3:38:26 AM
        
        I grew up on daily doses of the domino theory. - alcaray - 11/16/2006 4:03:35 PM
  - If Bush caves to the Democrats on Iraq then our troops should start saluting him with an open salute. - Scott Evil - 11/13/2006 3:05:56 PM
  - Commentary by Mark Steyn - TB - 11/13/2006 6:31:21 AM
    - "To add the sands of Mesopotamia to the list will be an act of weakness from which America will never recover." - Lindy - 11/13/2006 11:32:31 PM
    - In conclusion, Marky left out: "..., withdrawing Marines from Lebanon,..." - Alan G. Archer - 11/13/2006 12:01:42 PM
      - True enough. - TB - 11/13/2006 4:48:57 PM
  - "Our enemies know we can be beaten now." If so, Bush has taught 'em real good. - Bowser - 11/13/2006 3:13:11 AM
    - Would have been no different with Gore in charge. - TB - 11/13/2006 4:34:16 AM
      - Once more.....Broz in an exercise of pure faith..... - Publius - 11/17/2006 3:02:02 PM
      - Afghanistan support is different - dtb - 11/13/2006 3:35:53 PM
        
        re: Afghanistan support - TB - 11/13/2006 5:06:52 PM
        
        re: Afghanistan support - dtb - 11/13/2006 5:54:37 PM
        
        re: Afghanistan support - TB - 11/13/2006 9:04:02 PM
      - Reality - Bush has had almost as long as WWII took. - Bowser - 11/13/2006 5:26:38 AM
        
        Remember how WWII was fought? - TB - 11/13/2006 5:57:45 AM

Playstation 3 sells on Ebay for $99,999,999.00 - SDF - 11/17/2006 9:09:00 AM

When you've lost the hearts and minds - "US plans last big push in Iraq" - Bowser - 11/16/2006 4:26:05 AM
- Another comment on the "Last Big Push" strategy - TB - 11/16/2006 8:24:58 AM
  - The forgotten, or never learned, lesson. - Bowser - 11/16/2006 7:15:33 PM
    - re: The forgotten lesson. - TB - 11/16/2006 8:24:58 PM
      - Sigh. - Bowser - 11/17/2006 12:00:12 AM
        
        re: Sigh. - TB - 11/17/2006 2:10:15 AM
        
        To compare WWII with Iraq, you have to compare Hitler with Bush. - Bowser - 11/17/2006 3:51:58 AM
- Some comments and links - TB - 11/16/2006 5:21:49 AM
  - Iraq is the size of California, and how long did WWII last? - Bowser - 11/16/2006 5:50:17 AM
    - I'm beginning to wonder if you're actually some kind of script function (n/t) - TB - 11/16/2006 6:48:52 AM
      - I'm starting to believe you aren't aware that Iraq is lost. Big time. (n/t) - Bowser - 11/16/2006 6:59:48 AM

Milton Friedman dies at 94 - TB - 11/16/2006 6:01:47 PM
- Milton Friedman hero of the right.......... - Publius - 11/17/2006 3:07:08 AM
- Bummer, caught one of his lectures. Sniff, goodbye uncle milty :(. (n/t) - RobVg - 11/17/2006 1:16:59 AM
- Who was he? (n/t) - A. Leftleaner - 11/16/2006 7:18:28 PM

"Blue Dog" Democrats gave the Democrats a victory - TB - 11/16/2006 9:27:03 PM
- No Tom, the "Yella Dog" Democrats got out and voted a victory - Publius - 11/17/2006 2:42:33 AM
- Wasn't a victory for liberals. Was a direct repudiation of Bush & Co. - Bowser - 11/16/2006 9:57:55 PM
- Wrong... it was the moderates. - Scott Evil - 11/16/2006 9:52:35 PM
  - Wrong again... - ER - 11/16/2006 11:59:35 PM

"Is it just me, or is it becoming increasingly apparent that the Republicans and Democrats are determined to engage in a two year dumb-off?" - Dean Barnett (n/t) - TB - 11/15/2006 9:46:42 PM
- Would be far, far better than the 6 year dumb-on we've endured. (n/t) - Bowser - 11/15/2006 10:28:11 PM
- I think all you smart people should wait until some of the two years have actually transpired... - alcaray - 11/15/2006 9:52:39 PM
  - Signals are pretty clear. - TB - 11/15/2006 10:00:41 PM
    - spend spend spend. - A. Leftleaner - 11/15/2006 11:15:04 PM
      - Tell it to the current administration. - Mary Anne - 11/16/2006 6:56:01 PM
        
        I've been telling them. - Scott Evil - 11/16/2006 9:58:59 PM

"Where the Taliban and al-Qaida cross-fertilize." - Bowser - 11/16/2006 6:15:46 AM
- Do you support covert missions into Pakistan to attack enemy safe houses and camps? (n/t) - TB - 11/16/2006 6:51:35 AM
  - What I support. - Bowser - 11/16/2006 7:23:17 AM
  - What I support. - Bowser - 11/16/2006 7:17:22 AM
    - Would you have supported occupation of Afghanistan by 150,000 Americans? - TB - 11/16/2006 7:26:45 AM
      - Of course not. You forget. - Bowser - 11/16/2006 5:08:11 PM
        
        What are your mysterious "other ways," Bowser? - TB - 11/16/2006 5:48:34 PM
        
        A limitation of black-and-white thinking is that most of the world can't be understood. - Bowser - 11/16/2006 6:24:51 PM
        
        "Black and White thinking" = "arriving at a conclusion." - TB - 11/16/2006 8:13:16 PM
        
        Heads-up on the Turkmenistan-Afghanistan-Pakistan Natural Gas Pipeline Project - Alan G. Archer - 11/16/2006 9:58:51 PM
        
        And one last time (I think I've made my point) - TB - 11/16/2006 8:30:34 PM
      - Historical note: A Taliban official in 2001 challenged the US... - Alan G. Archer - 11/16/2006 12:37:46 PM

If it weren't for oil and ego, this is how it should have been done. - Bowser - 11/15/2006 4:52:38 PM
- A bit more on Baker policies - TB - 11/16/2006 5:26:18 AM
- Dickey is mistaken - TB - 11/15/2006 9:43:43 PM
  - What you're saying is that this "war" can't be won. The "breeder reactor" course. - Bowser - 11/16/2006 2:58:36 AM
  - It is very easy to hide from an invading army - Raoul - 11/15/2006 10:39:51 PM
    - re: It is very easy to hide from an invading army - TB - 11/15/2006 11:54:33 PM
      - re: It is very easy to hide from an invading army - Laurie Street - 11/16/2006 12:25:51 AM
        
        Key question - dtb - 11/16/2006 1:10:29 AM
        
        re: Key question - TB - 11/16/2006 3:59:02 AM
        
        Preserving Iraq.. - Raoul - 11/16/2006 8:24:08 AM
        
        You could make the same case for preserving the Shah of Iran. - TB - 11/16/2006 9:24:21 PM
        
        It has never been our practice to invade all countries with tyrants. - alcaray - 11/16/2006 9:37:18 PM
        
        A British poll found around 40% of British Muslims could relate to the London Bombers. - Lee - 11/16/2006 3:49:57 AM
        
        "Relate to" doesn't exactly correspond to "willing to kill" - Laurie Street - 11/16/2006 5:50:42 PM
        
        Links, and more on the "key question." - TB - 11/16/2006 4:22:55 AM
  - "- - -so long as the "aberrant ideology" thrives, so will the terrorists - - - " - Bowser - 11/15/2006 10:33:35 PM
- Abizaid - may have to increase troop levels "but I believe that is only temporary". - Bowser - 11/15/2006 6:42:11 PM
- Not listening to reason - Lindy - 11/15/2006 5:32:16 PM
  - Even from a Republican think tank. (n/t) - Bowser - 11/15/2006 6:33:07 PM

"Borat" gets comeuppance in NYC - Daniel - 11/15/2006 1:45:52 PM
- The target of "Borat's" outrageous antics isn't Kazhakstan, it's America - sz - 11/16/2006 3:18:12 AM
  - I do get the point - Daniel - 11/16/2006 7:21:47 AM
    - by which I mean - Daniel - 11/16/2006 7:31:12 AM
      - I don't think it would work... - alcaray - 11/16/2006 6:50:53 PM
      - The Kazhaks are perfectly capable of defending themselves - sz - 11/16/2006 1:57:54 PM
        
        yeah well, you know me: - Daniel - 11/16/2006 3:32:11 PM
  - Maybe it's the other way around. - Lee - 11/16/2006 3:57:46 AM
- err... doesn't anyone around here understand the joke? - alcaray - 11/15/2006 9:49:57 PM
  - yep I get it (see my response to sz above) (n/t) - Daniel - 11/16/2006 7:23:37 AM
- Its not called the "punch line" for nothing - E.P. - 11/15/2006 5:45:42 PM
- Pushing the limit - Lindy - 11/15/2006 3:06:56 PM
  - agreed, except : - Daniel - 11/15/2006 3:25:14 PM
    - Sasha Cohen is English, not American. - ER - 11/15/2006 4:51:15 PM
      - Poles - SDG - 11/15/2006 8:39:12 PM

A break for Ds in '08 - "Trent Lott returns to Senate leadership" - Bowser - 11/16/2006 6:57:19 AM

A puzzlement: US can afford $1 trillion to make the world a worse place, - Bowser - 11/16/2006 12:30:38 AM
- Kofi Anan is just more comfortable addressing the threat of global warming. - TB - 11/16/2006 3:40:28 AM

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