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Bush and Allawi - neither in touch with reality. - Bowser - 9/25/2004 10:07:30 PM
- Raoul & Bowser Jump On Bush Bandwagon - Mark Eby - 9/26/2004 2:09:23 AM
  - re: Yep - Raoul - 9/26/2004 8:50:57 AM
- re: Prospects - Raoul - 9/25/2004 11:37:21 PM
  - Fascinating. - Bowser - 9/26/2004 12:20:22 AM
    - They Have Seoul - Mark Eby - 9/26/2004 2:05:31 AM
      - So does James Brown. What are you talking about? - Bowser - 9/26/2004 12:45:44 PM
        
        So You Really Don't Have A Clue What Seoul Is Or Its Importance? - Mark Eby - 9/26/2004 2:52:21 PM
- Disagreeing with Kerry's lies does not mean one is out of touch with reality. - ebnelson - 9/25/2004 11:21:56 PM

Red State / Blue State Map Generator - Larry J - 9/24/2004 8:47:51 PM
- re: Figured out why you suddenly are talik Electoral College stuff... - Chris Vancil - 9/25/2004 12:34:18 AM
  - Keep living in your fantasyland, Chris - Larry J - 9/26/2004 11:34:32 AM

USA Arrests Iraqi General - David F Mayer - 9/26/2004 8:14:58 AM

A disturbing observation from Saudi Arabia - Gary - 9/23/2004 4:05:36 PM
- Removing foreign workers is the best thing that could happen to Saudi Arabia. - David F Mayer - 9/26/2004 8:10:30 AM

1,048 - Donald - 9/25/2004 9:55:01 PM
- re: 1,048 - Mark Eby - 9/26/2004 3:03:38 AM
- thanks, herr goebbels (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/25/2004 10:03:50 PM
  - Albatross! - Fox - 9/26/2004 2:52:04 AM
    - And to think - he's ALL theirs! - Bowser - 9/26/2004 5:21:14 AM
    - If pointing out Don's lies is shitty, so be it. - ebnelson - 9/26/2004 4:51:23 AM
  - Probably belongs on Flame, if anywhere, eb. (n/t) - Bowser - 9/25/2004 10:08:13 PM
    - Thanks, jimminy cricket (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/25/2004 11:17:07 PM

Here We Go Again - Mark Eby - 9/26/2004 3:02:14 AM
- Good luck and God speed. (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/26/2004 4:52:05 AM

New lows, even for Bush."Tying Kerry to Terror Tests Rhetorical Limits" - Bowser - 9/25/2004 6:51:59 PM
- I bet you and your dog have the best conversations. - ebnelson - 9/25/2004 7:37:26 PM
  - My pooch. No doubt he's liberal. - Bowser - 9/26/2004 3:39:14 AM

The Right Man For The Job? - Mark Eby - 9/26/2004 2:01:53 AM

Religion of Peace Update - The Rape Jihad - p - 9/25/2004 2:46:57 AM
- Sweeping and unfair generalities just don't help - McFly - 9/25/2004 8:02:54 PM
- Thanks, guys. I have had about enough of this. - Mary Anne - 9/25/2004 11:40:18 AM
  - A link of interest... - Tom Brosz - 9/25/2004 8:48:18 PM
- uhhh, p, you guys aren't planning to kill Sharon, are you? - E.P. Grondine - 9/25/2004 6:09:30 AM
- re: Religion of Peace Update - The Rape Jihad - R.L. - 9/25/2004 6:04:13 AM
  - Well done. (n/t) - Bowser - 9/25/2004 12:15:21 PM
  - You know phil, you and Don have a lot in common - R.L. - 9/25/2004 6:40:51 AM
    - Your analogy skills are poor as well - p - 9/25/2004 11:50:42 PM
      - Try again phil - R.L. - 9/26/2004 12:45:13 AM
        
        RoP - p - 9/26/2004 1:45:15 AM
- Hook, line and sinker. - Bowser - 9/25/2004 5:15:29 AM
- I can easily criticize it......... - tony - 9/25/2004 3:12:11 AM

In a "sovereign" Iraq, the US is telling 'em how to run the election. And can't get it together. - Bowser - 9/25/2004 3:41:08 PM
- Of course we are telling them how. They have NO EXPERIENCE with elections. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 9/26/2004 1:21:43 AM
- Let's see, in the real world, an interim govt., in a country that has never held a contested election, that the UN and tha axis of weasels is abandoning, seeks US help. - ebnelson - 9/25/2004 5:38:55 PM
- Not to worry,...................... - Publius - 9/25/2004 4:26:04 PM

What Is The d (n/t) - (anonymous) - 9/26/2004 12:27:33 AM
- r4TH LETTER OF THE ALPHABET, (dont let it bother you) (n/t) - R.L. - 9/26/2004 12:59:29 AM

Blast that State Department - Tony - 9/24/2004 5:57:13 PM
- You might note that the same map shows no terrorists operating in Syria. - Tom Brosz - 9/25/2004 8:53:19 PM
- Why? There are more terrorist organizations than just Al Queda. - Scott Evil - 9/24/2004 7:16:30 PM
  - Have you been anticipating virgins again, Tony? (n/t) - alcaray - 9/24/2004 7:41:29 PM
    - You seem to be focussing on one topic lately.........;-) (n/t) - Tony - 9/24/2004 7:59:27 PM
      - Tech got my hopes up. (n/t) - alcaray - 9/24/2004 8:07:34 PM
        
        You'll need more than just your "hopes" up.......... (n/t) - Lindy - 9/25/2004 7:24:17 AM
  - Merely reporting what the State Dept said post 9-11. - Tony - 9/24/2004 7:18:42 PM

A lot of people feel this way - sean - 9/25/2004 3:52:00 AM
- And a lot of people don't. - Tom Brosz - 9/25/2004 8:38:24 PM
- Hey, he changed his tune on that one at least...... - Publius - 9/25/2004 4:34:05 PM
- Fortunately there is medical treatment. - ebnelson - 9/25/2004 5:08:25 AM
  - In the old Soviet Union, political opposition was characterized as treasonous, and later, when that ceased to fly, as an illness for which there was medical treatment. - Mary Anne - 9/25/2004 11:49:25 AM
    - I would suggest that BDS is not based on politics - ebnelson - 9/25/2004 2:32:07 PM
  - I don't know about that. - Bowser - 9/25/2004 5:11:39 AM
    - I am sure. - ebnelson - 9/25/2004 5:21:41 AM

PTL there's no global warming, 'cause it's getting bad enough without that, too. - Bowser - 9/25/2004 4:04:29 PM
- re: PTL there's no global warming, 'cause it's getting bad enough without that, too. - Eric - 9/25/2004 7:49:33 PM
- Rush says not to worry about hole in ozone - E.P. Grondine - 9/25/2004 6:25:30 PM

America is Iraq redux - LJ - 9/25/2004 6:37:52 AM
- OK, forget it - LJ - 9/25/2004 4:15:54 PM
  - Iraqi support - Tom Brosz - 9/25/2004 7:03:05 PM
  - What you fail to take into account is - Buck Galaxy - 9/25/2004 6:12:02 PM
  - Since the insurgency is losing, is not supported by Iraqis, and civil society will win in Iraq, I guess your premise is correct, basically (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/25/2004 5:41:45 PM
    - A few thousand insurgents, 25 millions armed Iraqi citizens - they would be wiped out overnight if they weren't supported to some degree by the majority (n/t) - LJ - 9/25/2004 6:14:34 PM
      - Bu that standard, the USA should be crime free. (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/25/2004 7:38:29 PM
- What a poor analogy. - ebnelson - 9/25/2004 2:44:57 PM
- re: America is Iraq redux - gbaikie - 9/25/2004 2:42:26 PM
- re: Very long! - Raoul - 9/25/2004 7:49:57 AM
  - Forever. As long as there was an American who did not want foreign troops on US soil. (n/t) - Bowser - 9/25/2004 1:36:29 PM

Professional courtesy............. - Publius - 9/25/2004 4:23:51 PM
- Whoa! Not so fast. Is that shark a fundamental Christian? A neo-con? - Bowser - 9/25/2004 6:56:39 PM
- Keep your day job :^) (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/25/2004 5:47:18 PM

swift vets - E.P. Grondine - 9/24/2004 9:02:50 PM
- Send it to Rather. - ebnelson - 9/25/2004 5:10:13 AM
  - doubt if CBS would touch the story with a 10 foot pole right now - E.P. Grondine - 9/25/2004 6:07:45 AM
    - Only because there is nothing to link the gossip to journalism. (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/25/2004 2:33:42 PM
      - except multiple eye-witnesses (n/t) - E.P. Grondine - 9/25/2004 3:29:03 PM
        
        like Barnes and Burkett? - ebnelson - 9/25/2004 5:46:26 PM

Iraq Violence Eclipses Rosy Declarations - Donald - 9/25/2004 12:48:14 AM
- Just how long were you defending Rather? - ebnelson - 9/25/2004 3:26:38 AM
  - Probably doesn't belong anywhere - he didn't mention Rather. But speaking about "war", eb. - Bowser - 9/25/2004 5:21:29 AM
    - I don't love war, Bowser - ebnelson - 9/25/2004 2:50:02 PM
      - re: I don't love war, Bowser - Donald - 9/25/2004 3:20:29 PM
        
        Congress and the President don't seem to agree. (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/25/2004 5:42:37 PM
      - All hat. Squat. Nothing, again, ed. - Bowser - 9/25/2004 3:14:39 PM
        
        'no empathy'. You are not even close. But you clearly can't answer the points I made. Thanks. (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/25/2004 5:45:22 PM
    - All bark and no bite - Donald - 9/25/2004 2:29:22 PM
      - Over your head Don. - ebnelson - 9/25/2004 2:52:33 PM
        
        Uh...Ed... - Donald - 9/25/2004 3:15:30 PM

Mark Steyn on Kerry finding (finally) something he can talk about two day in a row: - ebnelson - 9/25/2004 2:55:39 PM
- What happens to our troops if Israel strikes Iran now? - E.P. Grondine - 9/25/2004 4:01:46 PM
  - Iran can choose the path of national destruction if they want it. - ebnelson - 9/25/2004 5:40:37 PM

W Bush plan for postwar Iraq - E.P. Grondine - 9/25/2004 3:35:25 PM

Allawi's speech to Congress - Tom Brosz - 9/24/2004 1:48:23 AM
- And Kerry's response... - Tom Brosz - 9/24/2004 2:02:53 AM
  - Kerry's response shows that he is the one living in fantasy - ebnelson - 9/24/2004 3:46:07 AM
    - re: Right, and Rumsfeld's agrees with him... Kettle Pot Black on being rude. (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 9/24/2004 6:35:54 AM
      - You might want to read what Iraqis aer actually saying - ebnelson - 9/24/2004 3:09:07 PM
        
        re: Huh? I was talking about Rumsfeld and Kerry. Either of which are from Iraq. (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 9/25/2004 3:28:24 AM
        
        Chris doesn't need to read Iraqi say- he channels the Iraqi spirit (n/t) - gbaikie - 9/24/2004 4:52:19 PM
        
        You been channeling stuff, Geoff? I prefer CNN. Which channel are you into? (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 9/25/2004 3:30:59 AM
        
        I prefer CSPAN- I can watch speeches without being filter through idiots. Or actual transcripts via the internet. - gbaikie - 9/25/2004 3:30:17 PM

Grave doubts about "the election". - Bowser - 9/24/2004 2:40:32 PM
- It is a lot closer to democracy than they had under Saddam Hussein. - David F Mayer - 9/24/2004 5:52:08 PM
- re: This is why Kerry would be a disaster for the Iraq war... - Scott Evil - 9/24/2004 4:06:49 PM
  - re: Bush has created a disaster in Iraq. You are clueless! Is planning to do the same thing in Iran! (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 9/24/2004 9:28:18 PM
    - re: Whatever you say... - Scott Evil - 9/24/2004 9:36:23 PM
      - re: You sure do Like building Strawmen... - Chris Vancil - 9/25/2004 3:39:10 AM
      - re: P.S. Did you notice that John Kerry's 4 point plan for wining in Iraq includes 4 things that we are already doing? - Scott Evil - 9/24/2004 9:50:30 PM
- What Iraqis are saying about their lives - ebnelson - 9/24/2004 2:45:21 PM
  - Which Iraqis and how many of them? Is this information anywhere close to correct? - E.P. Grondine - 9/25/2004 3:21:20 PM
  - Iraqi opinions do not count. The only opinions that count are those of leftists in the USA and Europe. Don't you understand that? (n/t) - David F Mayer - 9/24/2004 5:53:47 PM
  - Thanks Ed - McFly - 9/24/2004 3:32:22 PM
    - How the Iraqis see themselves. Some bad, some better. - Bowser - 9/24/2004 9:54:06 PM
      - re: Electricity - SteveS - 9/25/2004 1:22:30 AM
    - re: Thanks Ed, ditto - SteveS - 9/24/2004 9:28:51 PM
      - And Allawi, and most Iraqis know they can grasp that chance with Pres. Bush, but will lose it with Kerry. (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/25/2004 3:30:49 AM
      - re: Kerry doesn't believe in Democracy for Iraq. So if elected, he will turn Iraq into Vietnam. - Scott Evil - 9/24/2004 9:41:40 PM
    - You are welcome. - ebnelson - 9/24/2004 3:42:30 PM

In case you were wondering how the Al Qaeda victory over Spain was going: - ebnelson - 9/25/2004 5:18:07 AM
- Wait until this gets past the proposal stage before you start declaring "capitulation". - Mary Anne - 9/25/2004 1:06:33 PM
  - re: Wait until this gets past the proposal stage before you start declaring "capitulation". - gbaikie - 9/25/2004 3:11:06 PM

If America were Iraq, What would it be Like? - jms - 9/23/2004 9:19:39 PM
- Thanks for playing. - jms - 9/24/2004 11:34:48 PM
  - Guess I wasn't clear - LJ - 9/25/2004 6:30:33 AM
    - Stupid clipboard - LJ - 9/25/2004 6:39:55 AM
  - ...correction... - jms - 9/24/2004 11:40:40 PM
- re: If America were Iraq, What would it be Like? - gbaikie - 9/24/2004 1:49:55 PM
- re:Chaos and overwhelmed police - Raoul - 9/24/2004 5:36:57 AM
- Can you say - missed the point? (n/t) - LJ - 9/24/2004 4:37:08 AM
- Okay. Let's play. - Tom Brosz - 9/24/2004 1:06:37 AM
- Smaller, hotter, sandier (n/t) - R.L. - 9/23/2004 11:58:58 PM
- re: If America were Iraq, What would it be Like? - SteveS - 9/23/2004 10:27:35 PM
- A wild assumption - FrankC - 9/23/2004 10:18:53 PM
- But we aren't are we? The obsession with false equivalancy is very interesting. - ebnelson - 9/23/2004 9:23:00 PM

Any proof yet who gave forged documents to CBS? (n/t) - E.P. Grondine - 9/23/2004 11:23:47 PM
- Maybe the Tooth Fairy? (n/t) - David F Mayer - 9/24/2004 4:35:09 AM
- Uhh, according to CBS, Burkett, and the e-mail evidence Burkett left, it was Burkett. - ebnelson - 9/24/2004 3:48:14 AM
  - Thanks - the AWOL/desterter scam - E.P. Grondine - 9/24/2004 8:32:23 PM
    - The only person interviewed was Barnes, and he is full of crap. - ebnelson - 9/25/2004 3:33:33 AM
      - Killian Secretary and several in Alabama - E.P. Grondine - 9/25/2004 6:01:52 AM

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