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Pollution Porn - ER - 6/20/2016 4:26:05 AM
- I recently drove down to southern Maryland... - RL - 6/20/2016 10:07:49 PM

For Buck - RobVG - 6/14/2016 11:44:51 PM
- For ER and RL - mcfly - 6/15/2016 5:56:29 AM
  - The issue was the "wedge". You guys were the hammer. N/t - RobVG - 6/15/2016 2:15:17 PM
    - Remember the "there is no spoon" scene from The Matrix? - mcfly - 6/15/2016 5:28:39 PM
  - Its not the Trumpeters I'm aiming at. - ER - 6/15/2016 1:35:32 PM
- One more time... - RL - 6/15/2016 2:55:53 AM
- For Rob - ER - 6/15/2016 1:08:48 AM
  - The smokescreen of "hate". - RobVG - 6/15/2016 3:17:21 PM
    - "Prudent?" - mcfly - 6/15/2016 5:21:42 PM
    - The hate is crystal clear. - ER - 6/15/2016 5:20:18 PM
      - It was said "Trumpsters" aren't interested in a reasoned argument. All I get from Mcfly and you are fairy tails. - RobVG - 6/15/2016 5:41:54 PM
        
        "Fairy tales?" Please, do you even the slightest idea about my position on the issue at hand? - mcfly - 6/15/2016 10:25:05 PM
        
        Yeah, I have a pretty good idea now. - RobVG - 6/16/2016 1:16:25 AM
        
        Yeah, I read the article - mcfly - 6/16/2016 3:05:48 AM
        
        Actually I did read it... - RL - 6/16/2016 1:54:20 AM
        
        You're right about one thing... - ER - 6/15/2016 6:02:57 PM
        
        We already have procedures in place to vet refugees from other countries. - ER - 6/15/2016 5:47:21 PM
        
        Sure, "special procedures". - RobVG - 6/15/2016 6:15:10 PM
        
        Read Buck's recent comments in CE. - ER - 6/15/2016 8:00:11 PM

Hey, Rob- remember that racist GOP candidate we said was racist...? - RL - 6/7/2016 10:42:33 PM
- I"m getting awfully tired of your senseless, incessant baiting of Rob. - bowser - 6/9/2016 3:30:19 AM
  - Bowser's right, RL. You're out of line. - ER - 6/9/2016 2:24:54 PM
  - He "had it coming" as he would say. - RL - 6/9/2016 4:31:50 AM
    - "derision" is one thing, endless repetition another - Robert - 6/9/2016 4:33:20 PM
      - I'll ease up on Trump - mcfly - 6/9/2016 8:27:08 PM
      - I don't mind. Let him vent. - RobVG - 6/9/2016 8:11:20 PM
        
        It's not just about you and/or RL, it's about all of us. - bowser - 6/9/2016 10:35:33 PM
        
        define "divisive" - Robert - 6/10/2016 12:28:06 AM
        
        The "mirror principle". - ER - 6/10/2016 1:16:50 AM
        
        Untangling issues, maybe. - bowser - 6/10/2016 12:45:51 AM
        
        The reason this matters so much to me.... - RL - 6/11/2016 5:12:34 PM
        
        I think Robert hit the nail on the head one time. - RobVG - 6/10/2016 1:22:40 AM
    - Sorry, t;here is unexcusable rudeness. - bowser - 6/9/2016 6:14:03 AM
- There just buying into it. Not being politically correct is hard on their reelection prospects. - RobVG - 6/8/2016 5:37:43 PM
  - "I guess the millions of us racists see beyond it." - RL - 6/8/2016 10:41:40 PM
  - Mark Kirk may have just destroyed his own political future - mcfly - 6/8/2016 10:16:09 PM
  - Thanks! That clears it up... - RL - 6/8/2016 7:16:05 PM
  - I guess accusations of "political correctness" no longer silence your opposition, either. - ER - 6/8/2016 6:27:52 PM
    - Frankly, I don't think they believe anything any more... - RL - 6/8/2016 7:35:24 PM
      - What the Republicans want... - ER - 6/8/2016 9:01:09 PM
- I've never spent much time liking Mark Kirk's politics... - mcfly - 6/8/2016 12:00:17 AM

Trump - utilizing a developers typical shoddy business practices. - bowser - 6/10/2016 12:51:28 AM
- It's called retention. - RobVG - 6/10/2016 1:54:58 AM

Watched Hillary's and Donald's speeches today. - bowser - 6/7/2016 7:22:43 AM
- When the bourgeosie percieves their entitlements slipping away they drop all pretense of civility and moderation. - ER - 6/7/2016 12:21:28 PM

Tell me again how proud we are to be American. - bowser - 5/27/2016 1:02:29 AM
- A people gets the government it deserves - Robert - 5/27/2016 5:37:27 PM
- If Mr Trump is elected I have a feeling a lot of us will be keeping a low profile. - ER - 5/27/2016 2:01:21 AM
  - I think you'll find that alot of conservative will be laying low too... n/t - RobVG - 5/27/2016 10:18:30 PM
    - Yes, but a lot of them are falling right into line, too.. - ER - 5/28/2016 4:20:16 AM
      - Sadly yes - SDG - 6/6/2016 6:36:15 PM
        
        I have a feeling you may not agree, but... - ER - 6/6/2016 11:38:24 PM
        
        Hillary - SDG - 6/7/2016 12:29:24 AM

Hey, Donald! Ali was a Muslim. - bowser - 6/5/2016 11:48:28 PM
- Trump really knows no shame... - RL - 6/6/2016 1:22:05 AM

Credit where credit due department - bowser - 5/23/2016 12:09:33 AM
- Not so fast. - RobVG - 5/23/2016 4:03:30 AM
  - Studying economics - mcfly - 5/23/2016 10:07:44 PM
    - Economists best explain what happened. Not what's going to happen. n/t - RobVG - 5/24/2016 2:57:32 AM
      - ER took the words out of my mouth - mcfly - 5/24/2016 5:40:43 AM
      - You've got a point. - ER - 5/24/2016 3:03:33 AM
    - The Economic Sciences have a purpose. - ER - 5/23/2016 11:10:40 PM
  - Yep, the Bush Baby sure left us an accelerating economy. A real positive trend. - ER - 5/23/2016 1:39:18 PM
  - Oh, for Christ's sake! - bowser - 5/23/2016 8:01:03 AM
    - Jeez, you don't let a guy get a word in edgewise. - RobVG - 5/25/2016 6:35:17 PM

Is meddling in the evolution of other cultures ALWAYS wrong in principle? - BuckGalaxy - 5/21/2016 12:11:31 AM
- ER has not steadfastly refused to talk about anything. - ER - 5/21/2016 2:45:22 AM
  - Sorry if it feels like I am picking on you. I'm not - BuckGalaxy - 5/21/2016 8:51:54 PM
    - I don't believe Muslim-coddling Liberals are that much of a problem. - ER - 5/21/2016 11:49:33 PM
      - Where I agree and don't - BuckGalaxy - 5/23/2016 11:35:59 PM
        
        So it finally looks like we have met in the middle. - ER - 5/24/2016 4:58:46 PM
      - Great post...strongly agreed! - mcfly - 5/22/2016 2:22:30 AM
  - Wahabists don't believe in cultural relativism - BuckGalaxy - 5/21/2016 8:42:41 PM
    - I'm glad you brought the Wahabis in the Kingdom up. - ER - 5/22/2016 3:39:19 AM
      - Now we're getting somewhere - BuckGalaxy - 5/23/2016 11:45:17 PM
        
        Whenever you see evil, - ER - 5/24/2016 6:28:06 PM

The new defender of conservative morals and values... - mcfly - 5/21/2016 6:36:59 AM

Is Michele Obama a Bigot? - BuckGalaxy - 5/17/2016 3:05:50 PM
- This article's for you, Buck. - TB - 5/17/2016 9:11:27 PM
  - I understand. I'm running out of ways to defend the US. - bowser - 5/18/2016 4:17:32 AM
    - Well said, Bowser - mcfly - 5/20/2016 8:01:14 PM
  - I essentially made the same argument, although arguably less harsh, and have been repeatedly attacked for bigotry. - BuckGalaxy - 5/18/2016 12:31:06 AM
  - Excellent article. - ER - 5/17/2016 10:27:56 PM
    - The article was not written by a conservative - BuckGalaxy - 5/18/2016 12:37:25 AM
      - Strengthen ties with those in the Muslim world who agree - mcfly - 5/18/2016 1:16:59 AM
        
        Liberal muslims and secularists in the muslim world - BuckGalaxy - 5/18/2016 3:43:19 AM
      - I know, that's a left wing rag where it appeared. - ER - 5/18/2016 1:07:36 AM
- You might have more luck getting your point across,,, - ER - 5/17/2016 4:19:50 PM
  - You exhibit a stunning lack of self awareness - BuckGalaxy - 5/17/2016 6:35:37 PM
    - You couldn't link to even one, could you.? - ER - 5/17/2016 7:46:16 PM
      - So that's your new argument? - BuckGalaxy - 5/17/2016 11:37:20 PM
        
        C'mon Buck, there's always going to be people like Affleck - mcfly - 5/18/2016 2:03:40 AM
        
        Nicholas Kristof was making the same arguments as Affleck - BuckGalaxy - 5/18/2016 3:12:24 AM
        
        Besides... - mcfly - 5/18/2016 2:33:12 AM
        
        ER and I agree on far too much to be enemies - BuckGalaxy - 5/18/2016 3:14:38 AM

The appeal of unreason - ER - 5/18/2016 8:25:48 PM

Yup, that's us. - RobVG - 5/10/2016 5:23:31 PM
- One word for you: RFRA - Robert - 5/14/2016 5:56:38 PM
  - Danergous false equivalence - BuckGalaxy - 5/16/2016 5:47:29 AM
    - There seems to be a correlation between conservatism and lack of reading comprehension - Robert - 5/16/2016 6:15:32 PM
      - I need you to focus for a minute, Robert - BuckGalaxy - 5/16/2016 10:30:36 PM
- Trying to defeat a stereotype by using a stereotype - mcfly - 5/14/2016 3:05:26 AM
  - Next your're going to tell me it's a logical fallacy. n/t - RobVG - 5/14/2016 4:20:06 PM
    - Do you honestly think your cartoon exposes a truth about liberals? - mcfly - 5/15/2016 12:35:30 AM
      - Read Robert's comments above - BuckGalaxy - 5/16/2016 6:00:52 AM
        
        Read Robert's second comment above - Robert - 5/16/2016 6:18:54 PM
      - Exposes? More like illuminates. - RobVG - 5/15/2016 3:55:03 PM
        
        Conservatives are “bigoted, sexist, racist haters” - RL - 5/15/2016 5:03:57 PM
        
        I fully agree. None of that excuses the human rights abuses in Islamic countries. - BuckGalaxy - 5/16/2016 6:02:25 AM
        
        Huh? - RL - 5/16/2016 1:28:08 PM
        
        My apologies. You and I are in 100% agreement. - BuckGalaxy - 5/16/2016 4:43:06 PM
  - The Right seems to have just discovered the concept of "stereotype". - ER - 5/14/2016 3:30:44 AM
    - Can we move past the "stereotype" excuse? - BuckGalaxy - 5/16/2016 6:04:45 AM
      - All factions have their assholes. And their decent people. - ER - 5/16/2016 12:24:35 PM
        
        Where does your argument lead us? - BuckGalaxy - 5/16/2016 4:52:14 PM
        
        That's not what I said. - ER - 5/16/2016 7:04:51 PM
        
        I am not condemning an entire civilization - BuckGalaxy - 5/16/2016 10:34:08 PM
        
        Please stop the strawman arguments - BuckGalaxy - 5/16/2016 11:28:57 PM
        
        As long as you understand the difference between... - ER - 5/16/2016 11:52:55 PM
        
        Do you see Trumps comments as persecution? n/t - RobVG - 5/17/2016 3:40:03 AM
        
        Yes. - ER - 5/17/2016 4:28:34 AM
        
        How's this... - BuckGalaxy - 5/17/2016 12:26:01 AM
        
        You can talk about it all you want. - ER - 5/17/2016 3:29:13 AM
        
        But YOU cannot... - BuckGalaxy - 5/17/2016 2:37:22 PM
        
        You're right, we're just talking past each other. - ER - 5/17/2016 5:11:23 PM
- Sadly, so true... - BuckGalaxy - 5/10/2016 7:26:28 PM

US Navy SEAL training, an insider's comment. - bowser - 5/16/2016 5:41:28 AM
- SEALS, like Rangers and other commando type units, are like police SWAT teams. - ER - 5/16/2016 1:27:51 PM

What do Bush, Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld and Powell have in common. - bowser - 5/12/2016 7:29:17 PM
- Cheney and Rumsfelfd certainly. - ER - 5/14/2016 1:15:08 AM
- Couldn't agree more. n/t - RobVG - 5/12/2016 11:24:47 PM
  - What? - Robert - 5/13/2016 8:36:41 PM
    - It wasn't sarcasm. - RobVG - 5/14/2016 6:11:06 PM
      - Whoa there, cowboy - mcfly - 5/15/2016 1:12:46 AM
        
        Pulling out. - ER - 5/15/2016 3:06:26 AM
        
        I thought that's what I said - RobVG - 5/15/2016 3:04:33 PM
        
        I wasn't directing my comments at you particularly.. - ER - 5/15/2016 4:54:06 PM
        
        Gee, Obama's not the only one to blame for Iraq?? - mcfly - 5/15/2016 4:47:33 PM
        
        Now who's being sarcastic - RobVG - 5/15/2016 4:56:57 PM
  - And yet you support the guy openly advocating war crimes... - RL - 5/13/2016 2:07:58 AM
    - C'mon, RL. Cut the dude some slack, OK.? - ER - 5/13/2016 2:17:47 AM
      - Ditto. Give it a rest, please. Maybe just for a while, anyway. - bowser - 5/13/2016 5:57:01 AM

The dumbest election move I've ever seen. - bowser - 5/10/2016 1:02:56 AM
- The best VP suggestion for Trump - mcfly - 5/10/2016 4:49:25 PM
  - Yeah, that's one of the consequences of becoming a Conservative... - ER - 5/10/2016 5:37:05 PM
    - A sound theory - mcfly - 5/14/2016 3:16:35 AM
      - I never cared for Sandler's comedy. - ER - 5/14/2016 3:33:04 AM

A Tea-Partier finally understands his guilt in helping to create this farce... - RL - 5/6/2016 1:45:55 AM
- It didn't start with Obama. - ER - 5/9/2016 3:04:55 PM
- It's a harsh realization - mcfly - 5/6/2016 2:39:25 AM

It's a puzzlement. - bowser - 5/6/2016 5:15:04 AM
- Deimos kai Phobos - ER - 5/9/2016 2:00:05 PM
- Your point of view is a puzzlement. - RobVG - 5/7/2016 4:49:11 PM
  - You're right - Robert - 5/8/2016 4:54:11 PM
  - "those people..." - mcfly - 5/7/2016 7:59:05 PM
  - "those people had it coming" - RL - 5/7/2016 5:58:41 PM
    - Explain why you take exception. - RobVG - 5/7/2016 7:47:04 PM
      - What is the point? - RL - 5/7/2016 8:16:38 PM

I got yer 'presidential' right HERE! - RL - 4/30/2016 4:01:20 PM
- C'mon you guys. Pile on so we can get to something with substance. n/t - RobVG - 5/3/2016 1:42:33 AM
  - Are you asserting... - RL - 5/3/2016 2:35:26 AM
    - Not to worry. Nuclear war is not all that bad... - RobVG - 5/3/2016 2:46:32 AM
      - Billions of people probably WOULD survive nuclear war. - ER - 5/3/2016 5:51:33 AM
      - Rob, just because you feel dying in a nuclear conflagration is preferable to your continued existence - RL - 5/3/2016 3:10:30 AM
        
        Again, not to worry Robert. - RobVG - 5/3/2016 3:17:40 AM
        
        It doesn't take a physicist to see the article is crap... - RL - 5/3/2016 8:53:58 PM
        
        Huh - Robert - 5/4/2016 6:39:13 PM
        
        Yeah, I guess it should have been on 'flame'... - RL - 5/4/2016 10:26:41 PM
        
        Rob Rob Rob three men in a mob - Robert - 5/5/2016 3:50:48 AM
        
        Sorry about that Robert. - RobVG - 5/4/2016 6:54:59 PM
        
        Thanks for the warning - Robert - 5/4/2016 7:13:35 PM
        
        Happy? No. - RobVG - 5/4/2016 8:19:22 PM
        
        It must be uncomforable - Robert - 5/5/2016 3:54:16 AM
        
        It not too bad... - RL - 5/5/2016 9:24:07 PM
        
        Still not feelin' the love.... n/t - RobVG - 5/5/2016 5:11:52 AM
        
        Hmm - RobVG - 5/4/2016 5:59:25 PM
    - He'll be just like the shrub. He'll have "handlers" and advisers to bring him into reality. nt - RobVG - 5/3/2016 2:41:06 AM
      - And he will fire them, and hire lunatic sycophants - RL - 5/3/2016 3:12:52 AM

I'm thinking of the Conservatives we had looking for validation. - bowser - 5/5/2016 4:02:12 AM
- Why would they come HERE? - ER - 5/5/2016 4:49:13 PM
- Well, if you had me in mind... - RobVG - 5/5/2016 4:41:15 AM
  - I certainly didn't. - bowser - 5/5/2016 6:11:00 AM
    - Thanks Bowser - RobVG - 5/5/2016 4:14:53 PM

It could have been much, much worse. - ER - 5/5/2016 2:18:13 PM

It's just pure BS!! - bowser - 4/29/2016 10:50:20 PM
- That was then, this is now... - ER - 4/30/2016 12:47:21 AM

Critical Analysis - ER - 4/28/2016 1:22:39 PM
- Is it just me, - - - - bowser - 4/29/2016 3:03:39 AM
  - I'm sorry about the length, and lack of comment. - ER - 4/29/2016 4:54:02 AM
- It's from the Jacobin. - TB - 4/28/2016 3:08:48 PM
  - Thanks. I'll check it out. - ER - 4/28/2016 9:42:24 PM

There is no defense for multiculturalism from progressives - BuckGalaxy - 4/22/2016 6:47:05 AM
- You seemed to have brought out liberal cannibalistic tendencies. - RobVG - 4/23/2016 6:46:46 PM
  - This happens every time I bring up the subject - BuckGalaxy - 4/24/2016 6:03:31 AM
    - Do you really think my responses to you have been so unreasonable? - ER - 4/24/2016 12:46:46 PM
      - I think it took you a while to get my point - BuckGalaxy - 4/24/2016 5:07:26 PM
        
        i don't think terrorists are having any trouble generating contempt from the world. - ER - 4/24/2016 9:14:41 PM
        
        Very true but - BuckGalaxy - 4/25/2016 3:47:46 AM
        
        I just don't see it, Buck. - ER - 4/25/2016 2:02:39 PM
        
        First of all let me apologize to you and Bowser for being unclear in the OP - BuckGalaxy - 4/26/2016 6:07:29 PM
        
        I guess that settles it, then. - ER - 4/26/2016 7:13:18 PM
- And you are GOD? Get serious! - bowser - 4/23/2016 3:34:52 AM
  - You are making many false conclusions - BuckGalaxy - 4/23/2016 5:34:45 AM
  - And by the way - - - - bowser - 4/23/2016 3:37:03 AM
    - Reading comprehension problem? - BuckGalaxy - 4/23/2016 5:30:52 AM
- Deliverance - ER - 4/22/2016 2:01:40 PM
  - I'm not talking about race, I'm talking about ideas - BuckGalaxy - 4/22/2016 11:03:23 PM
    - Your filters are working the same way. - ER - 4/23/2016 1:05:33 AM
      - There's a lot we agree on ER, this is not one of them - BuckGalaxy - 4/23/2016 3:37:31 AM
        
        Like I said in my first comment to your thread opener... - ER - 4/23/2016 5:34:12 AM
        
        Over compensating - BuckGalaxy - 4/23/2016 4:26:10 PM
        
        Pressure on Muslims for reform. - ER - 4/23/2016 7:00:25 PM
        
        I agree with almost all of that - BuckGalaxy - 4/23/2016 9:51:24 PM
        
        Not to nit-pick - ER - 4/23/2016 10:28:27 PM

As I predicted many years ago. - johannes - 4/22/2016 5:04:23 PM
- Didn't sound like something Roger would say. - podrock - 4/23/2016 6:17:07 PM
- As I recall... - ER - 4/22/2016 9:42:48 PM
  - "How can this be reconciled with your theory?" - RL - 4/23/2016 8:40:09 PM
    - MOVED TO OFF TOPIC - podrock - 4/24/2016 4:41:18 PM
  - Same recollection - RobVG - 4/22/2016 11:30:36 PM
    - To be fair to Johannes (he can correct me if I'm mistaken) - ER - 4/23/2016 12:35:20 AM
      - You are partially correct, - johannes - 4/23/2016 5:55:11 PM
        
        Wow... this crap again... - RL - 4/23/2016 8:37:04 PM
        
        RL: Your comments belong on the flame board. - johannes - 4/24/2016 4:22:10 PM
        
        You have been posting this nonsense since 2002- if not longer - RL - 4/24/2016 6:50:18 PM
        
        now moved to Flame - podrock - 4/24/2016 7:03:18 PM
        
        The earth gets rid of excess heat strictly by radiation. - ER - 4/23/2016 8:08:35 PM
        
        from 4hiroshimas.com - ER - 4/23/2016 8:22:34 PM
        
        Thank you guys for your input; - johannes - 4/24/2016 4:15:35 PM
        
        NIMBY - ER - 4/24/2016 9:12:20 PM

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