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I'll count slowly for you.

Back up 5 posts from your last one. Your use of the US and UK as examples of tyrannies was IDIOTIC. Subsequent comments on the accuracy of my comments regarding eliminating tyranny were reasonable. I'll have to follow-up on your references to reply, as those comments are not obviously idiotic and appear to represent attempts at reasonable rational debate rather than ludicrous hyperbole.

As for India Tom's post was sufficeint rebuttal which you failed to reply to. There are plenty of Bush haters claiming they are living under a tyranny now. That doesn't mean they aren't full of crap. India had legitimate grievances and a lack of full freedom under the UK as the US did before it. That doesn't mean British rule was anywhere near as bad as under Saddam, Hitler, or the Taliban. Now of course in the US educational system, Indian history gets about 5 to 10 hours of review so I'm sure I've missed a lot despite some reading in other sources. On the other hand we spend a lot of time on our own history and your misrepresentation of it leaves me a might skeptical of your recollection of Indian history. It is also telling that you ignore the evolution of democracy in both countries to make your point. They have been among the most democratic countries for centuries and have continually grown with regard to individual rights and freedom. Judging them today by actions decades ago is fundamentally whacked. They have already judged their own past actions as wrong and changed laws to prevent repetitions.

Examples of individual cruelty and government neglect do not constitute true government sponsored tyranny. Government sponsorship and encouragement of brutal represssion of dissenters does.

Regards,
Mark

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