I'll beg to differ

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I'll beg to differ

Tony — 11/29/2004 3:03:49 PM (archived)

"Prior to 911 it would have cost him dearly politically to do much more than the pinpoint minor retaliations he ordered"

Prior to 9/11 he couldn't have invaded Iraq or Afghanistan, period.
There would be no way either the public or the Republican controlled Congress would have stood for it.

P.S. Since you accuse me of BDS, I guess I'll have to put you into the Irrational Clinton Hater camp.
See what a pointless line of argument that is yet?

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A question for Mark Eby: What is your definition of 'terrorist'? - Jacob Smaorodin - 11/17/2004 4:54:58 PM
- Someone who DELIBERTATELY targets non-combatants. - Buck Galaxy - 11/25/2004 8:36:56 AM
  - re: Someone who DELIBERTATELY targets non-combatants. - gbaikie - 11/26/2004 1:16:56 AM
- That's George Bush. Read it again. (n/t) - Bowser - 11/24/2004 7:15:07 AM
- Your Definition Is Pretty Good - Mark Eby - 11/21/2004 11:32:28 PM
- Swinging intellectually (and wildly) - FrankC - 11/17/2004 9:18:52 PM
  - Frank: You should take this to the CE board - Gary - 11/18/2004 6:01:44 AM
- Uh, lemme try: someone with a rag on their head? (n/t) - p - 11/17/2004 9:10:06 PM
  - Ahhhh its just so much simpler to be a bigot, isnt it phil? - R.L. - 11/23/2004 11:35:00 PM
    - Point taken - p - 11/27/2004 7:48:53 PM
      - Point apparently missed - R.L. - 11/30/2004 4:16:51 PM
        
        re: Point apparently missed - p - 12/1/2004 9:06:46 PM
  - re: Only if the bomb belt matches the towel. (n/t) - Scott Evil - 11/17/2004 9:40:57 PM
  - Ah, brevity is the soul of wit (n/t) - FrankC - 11/17/2004 9:20:39 PM
    - But sometimes, brevity is the brain of twit (n/t) - LJ - 11/18/2004 6:18:59 PM
- My definition is a bit simpler. - Tom Brosz - 11/17/2004 7:21:27 PM
  - Opposed to.............? - Lindy - 11/17/2004 10:46:20 PM
  - re: My definition is a bit simpler. - Jacob Samorodin - 11/17/2004 8:48:34 PM
  - Differences - Tony - 11/17/2004 7:42:39 PM
    - re: Differences - Tom Brosz - 11/17/2004 11:29:03 PM
      - A seven year old responds - Tony - 11/18/2004 6:33:40 PM
        
        You're right, as far as it goes. - Tom Brosz - 11/18/2004 7:18:25 PM
        
        Old Trick - Mark Eby - 11/22/2004 2:22:21 AM
        
        Another Old Trick - Tony - 11/22/2004 3:44:28 PM
        
        Same Old Anti-war Rubbish - Mark Eby - 11/24/2004 3:22:40 AM
        
        Same old black and white thinking. - Tony - 11/24/2004 5:00:07 PM
        
        Ghandi and MLK - Tom Brosz - 11/24/2004 8:04:53 PM
        
        Perfect Proof Of Cluelessness About Tyranny - Mark Eby - 11/24/2004 11:59:16 PM
        
        "You forgot Poland" (n/t) - Tony - 11/26/2004 8:52:31 PM
        
        Maybe - Mark Eby - 11/26/2004 11:02:52 PM
        
        a brief history - tony - 11/29/2004 5:08:00 AM
        
        Arrogant Bullshit? - ID - 11/29/2004 12:34:29 PM
        
        I'll type slowly for you. - Tony - 11/29/2004 2:58:34 PM
        
        I'll count slowly for you. - Mark Eby - 11/30/2004 1:31:18 AM
        
        Here's a tip - try reading what I wrote, not what you think I wrote. - Tony - 11/30/2004 6:53:31 PM
        
        A Valid Point - Mark Eby - 12/1/2004 1:05:15 AM
        
        And so we let this thread die of old age....... - Tony - 12/1/2004 7:40:41 PM
        
        And Trouble Reading A Map As Well - Mark Eby - 12/1/2004 12:56:46 AM
        
        Trouble Counting Eh? - Mark Eby - 12/1/2004 12:54:10 AM
        
        Very well done, Tony. (n/t) - Davin L. - 11/30/2004 9:31:24 PM
        
        Big tyrannies and little tyrannies - Mary Anne - 11/25/2004 2:19:31 AM
        
        Yes & No - ID - 11/25/2004 11:52:13 AM
        
        There are forms of tyranny other than military. - LJ - 11/25/2004 1:02:41 AM
        
        What a hoser (n/t) - ID - 11/25/2004 11:52:38 AM
        
        "War is the only answer to tyranny" - Mary Anne - 11/24/2004 3:30:52 PM
        
        Nothing Is certain except inaction also has consequences - ID - 11/25/2004 11:59:00 AM
        
        Key Word Tyranny - Mark Eby - 11/25/2004 12:00:02 AM
        
        re: War is the only answer to tyranny - Tom Brosz - 11/24/2004 7:15:19 PM
        
        Absorbing nations - Mary Anne - 11/25/2004 1:58:27 AM
        
        re: Another Old Trick - Tom Brosz - 11/23/2004 3:42:44 AM
        
        Maybe the point is... - R.L. - 11/23/2004 6:42:02 PM
        
        Same Old Dem Lies And Stupid Posturing - Mark Eby - 11/24/2004 3:30:17 AM
        
        P.S. Under what color of sky could Clinton ever have "done something about it"? - Tony - 11/26/2004 8:56:58 PM
        
        At Any Moment He Decided To Place Security Over Politics - Mark Eby - 11/27/2004 6:23:47 PM
        
        I'll beg to differ - Tony - 11/29/2004 3:03:49 PM
        
        Your Main Problem Is - Mark Eby - 11/30/2004 1:42:12 AM
        
        re: Your Main Problem Is....what? - Tony - 11/30/2004 7:51:59 PM
        
        PS - Mark Eby - 12/1/2004 1:18:15 AM
        
        Didn't Know You Were Such A War Monger - Mark Eby - 12/1/2004 1:16:38 AM
        
        Memories....... - Tony - 11/24/2004 5:17:30 PM
        
        re: Memories....... - gbaikie - 11/25/2004 3:35:24 AM
        
        Funnily enough... - Tony - 11/26/2004 8:59:34 PM
        
        re: Funnily enough... - gbaikie - 11/27/2004 8:38:47 AM
        
        if "is" is equal to "wasn't" in your dictionary, then fine (n/t) - tony - 11/29/2004 4:56:52 AM
        
        Your Selective Memory - Mark Eby - 11/25/2004 12:07:16 AM
        
        Meanwhile in the real world... - Tony - 11/26/2004 8:50:50 PM
        
        The MTV Generation's? - Mark Eby - 11/27/2004 6:26:23 PM
        
        ya got nothing huh? (n/t) - PPD - 11/29/2004 4:58:43 AM
        
        No, Just Obviously Over Your Head (n/t) - Mark Eby - 11/30/2004 1:43:11 AM
        
        Make an actual point instead of nelsonifying your argument and I'll address it. (n/t) - Tony - 11/30/2004 7:53:46 PM
        
        Are You PPD? (n/t) - Mark Eby - 12/1/2004 12:54:59 AM
        
        PS - Mark Eby - 11/25/2004 12:10:05 AM
        
        re: Memories....... - Tom Brosz - 11/24/2004 8:08:06 PM
        
        And what would the same war have cost ten years from now? - Tom Brosz - 11/23/2004 7:17:52 PM
        
        You very specifically asked: "if we hadn't invaded Iraq, what would Zarqawi and the other goons be doing right now?" - alcaray - 11/24/2004 5:45:31 PM
        
        re: If we hadn't invaded Iraq - Tom Brosz - 11/24/2004 8:15:44 PM
        
        So "in for a penny..."? - alcaray - 11/24/2004 10:19:06 PM
        
        That wasn't the argument. - Tom Brosz - 11/25/2004 12:55:45 AM
        
        A group acting from Afghanistan attacked us and the world knew it - R.L. - 11/25/2004 3:52:02 PM
        
        re: A group acting from Afghanistan - Tom Brosz - 11/25/2004 9:44:11 PM
        
        Should have gone below "re: With the best of tactics..." (n/t) - alcaray - 11/24/2004 6:15:42 PM
        
        Sobering thought: With the best of tactics... - alcaray - 11/24/2004 12:21:54 AM
        
        re: With the best of tactics... - Tom Brosz - 11/24/2004 3:31:37 AM
        
        You just dont get it, do you? - R.L. - 11/23/2004 7:47:42 PM
        
        You Sure Don't - Mark Eby - 11/24/2004 3:41:41 AM
        
        Had we killed Saddam in a targeted strike, what would have changed? - Tom Brosz - 11/24/2004 3:35:58 AM
        
        I didn't say there was a better way. - Tony - 11/23/2004 2:49:07 PM
        
        High horse? - Tom Brosz - 11/23/2004 5:54:55 PM
        
        About war.......... - Publius - 11/23/2004 10:10:52 PM
        
        I give up. - Tony - 11/23/2004 7:07:27 PM
        
        re: You're right, as far as it goes. (n/t) - (anonymous) - 11/22/2004 2:21:07 AM
        
        good bump (n/t) - t - 2/14/2005 4:34:17 AM

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