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Kerry does his best to discourage Iraq - ebnelson - 9/23/2004 5:28:27 PM

Attacking our soldiers (no, not Iraqis--US citizens) - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/23/2004 5:18:47 PM

Interesting analysis on terror cells - Tom Brosz - 9/23/2004 4:18:23 PM

Going, going, - - - "Antarctic Glaciers Melting Faster -Study" - Bowser - 9/22/2004 11:59:34 AM
- Global Warming is certain. However, there is little or nothing that we can do about it. - David F Mayer - 9/23/2004 4:05:00 PM
- Global Warming - Donald - 9/22/2004 1:35:46 PM
  - re: Global Warming - gbaikie - 9/22/2004 3:18:56 PM
    - This may surprise you Geoff... - Donald - 9/22/2004 3:44:12 PM
      - re: This may surprise you Geoff... - gbaikie - 9/22/2004 4:34:28 PM
  - And as far a hurricanes go... - REB - 9/22/2004 1:57:12 PM
  - re: Global Warming - REB - 9/22/2004 1:45:38 PM
    - Its simple... - Donald - 9/22/2004 2:13:11 PM
      - Are you sure of you motives- Science or political? - REB - 9/22/2004 2:30:26 PM
        
        Motives - Donald - 9/22/2004 2:40:57 PM
        
        The Presidentâ€™s Environment Policy - REB - 9/22/2004 4:17:11 PM
        
        When the Senate voted 95-0 against the Kyoto accord back in 1997... - Larry J - 9/22/2004 3:04:39 PM
        
        A myth - Donald - 9/22/2004 3:47:05 PM
        
        A myth - you mean like your myth that hurricanes are President Bush's fault? (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/22/2004 6:50:08 PM
        
        If Kyoto was such a great idea, why didn't Clinton submit it for ratification? - Larry J - 9/22/2004 4:19:46 PM
        
        re: Incredible isn't it? - Scott Evil - 9/22/2004 3:12:18 PM
        
        re: thats just not true. - Scott Evil - 9/22/2004 2:57:46 PM
        
        re: Motives - REB - 9/22/2004 2:43:46 PM
        
        Motives - Donald - 9/22/2004 2:55:17 PM
      - As I build a fire in my fireplace this winter... - Scott Evil - 9/22/2004 2:29:46 PM
  - re: Most studies I've seen show that Global warming would increase the liklihood of El Nino conditions - Scott Evil - 9/22/2004 1:44:17 PM
    - Not exactly accurate - Donald - 9/22/2004 2:05:42 PM
      - re: What if Siberia became habitable? - Scott Evil - 9/22/2004 2:23:27 PM
        
        You know, if you would educate yourself it might actually be worth debating you... - R.L. - 9/23/2004 9:00:50 AM
        
        if you would learn to tone down the rhetoric maybe you could win an argument. - Scott Evil - 9/23/2004 3:08:42 PM
        
        re: You know, if you would educate yourself it might actually be worth debating you... - REB - 9/23/2004 12:06:46 PM
        
        What if it didn't? - Donald - 9/22/2004 2:35:11 PM
        
        re: Well it may be more unpredictable... - Scott Evil - 9/22/2004 2:46:58 PM
        
        re: What if it didn't? - REB - 9/22/2004 2:42:01 PM
        
        Yes - Donald - 9/22/2004 2:54:14 PM
        
        re: Yes - REB - 9/22/2004 3:02:35 PM
        
        Been there, done that - Donald - 9/22/2004 3:29:38 PM
        
        re: Been there, done that - REB - 9/22/2004 3:38:22 PM

Note to Zarqawi: watch the skies. - Tom Brosz - 9/22/2004 6:32:23 PM
- re: Paradise just got another virgin raping "holy-man" - Scott Evil - 9/22/2004 8:25:20 PM
- Zarqawi, the Al Qaeda leader in Iraq for going on two years - ebnelson - 9/22/2004 6:52:51 PM
  - DNC and your axis had nothing to do with it - alcaray - 9/22/2004 9:36:27 PM
    - Might be a missed opportunity. - ebnelson - 9/22/2004 10:13:30 PM
      - Saddam's blessings? No. - alcaray - 9/22/2004 10:52:47 PM
        
        Okey-dokey - ebnelson - 9/22/2004 11:35:44 PM
        
        Expand, please. - alcaray - 9/22/2004 11:48:57 PM
        
        I seriously doubt he was there without Saddam's blessings and support. - ebnelson - 9/23/2004 1:18:43 AM
        
        "Why is he almost never referred to as an AQ terrorist? " - Tony - 9/23/2004 2:54:14 PM
        
        So what were we talking about? Oh yeah, the example of Bush's contempt for the war on terror. (n/t) - alcaray - 9/23/2004 3:24:17 PM
    - Great link. Too bad. Who's side is Bush on, anyway? - Bowser - 9/22/2004 9:56:12 PM
  - We have had over a year to find him. It is time that we get serious. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 9/22/2004 7:00:28 PM

Afghanistan 7 out of 10 - gbaikie - 9/23/2004 3:08:41 PM
- re: More good news from the war on terror! - Scott Evil - 9/23/2004 3:11:52 PM

Osama Bin Laden's point of view (Is he crazy or what?) - David F Mayer - 9/22/2004 5:23:57 AM
- re: Don't you love the way these messages are written in the style of Koranic Verse... - Scott Evil - 9/22/2004 3:22:46 PM
  - The Quran is VERY FANATICAL in itself, calling for the murder of unbelievers, etc. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 9/23/2004 2:46:22 PM

With this guy as CIA Director, you can bet your booties the NIE will become a feelgood blog. - Bowser - 9/23/2004 4:08:45 AM
- re: I thought the couragous Democrats were going to block his nomination. - Scott Evil - 9/23/2004 2:45:08 PM
- Iraqis - Tom Brosz - 9/23/2004 6:50:30 AM

"Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the President." - Bowser - 9/23/2004 4:13:01 AM
- one more... - Jack Herer - 9/23/2004 1:10:05 PM
- And you misinterpret that to justify your swill. (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/23/2004 12:42:51 PM
  - And how would you interpret it? That Bush IS the US, IS my country? - Bowser - 9/23/2004 1:57:41 PM
- I like the Mark Twain quote myself. - Tom Brosz - 9/23/2004 6:57:43 AM

Unamerican, or just on the other side? - Larry J - 9/22/2004 1:23:10 PM
- You guys should be more cautious after what happend on Off Topic the other day - alcaray - 9/22/2004 3:17:11 PM
  - This one had multiple witnesses as well as assorted injuries to back it up - Larry J - 9/22/2004 4:15:07 PM
    - If there's another story with more info than I know, then maybe so. - alcaray - 9/22/2004 4:30:20 PM
      - Go back to the original story - Larry J - 9/22/2004 4:52:38 PM
        
        are police reports released for publication, prior to a trial? (n/t) - alcaray - 9/22/2004 6:14:08 PM
        
        They are here, but not in detail. - Mary Anne - 9/22/2004 10:56:56 PM
        
        I think they are, at least in some jurisdictions - Larry J - 9/22/2004 8:32:07 PM
- sad. I mourn the deep divisions in this country. (n/t) - jms - 9/22/2004 2:59:30 PM
- Obviously unAmerican, and clearly criminal. - ebnelson - 9/22/2004 2:51:48 PM
- re: they must know who the alledged attacker was. - Scott Evil - 9/22/2004 1:54:56 PM
  - Unfortunately... - Donald - 9/22/2004 2:27:46 PM
    - re: All true. - Scott Evil - 9/22/2004 2:31:49 PM
- A criminal act - Donald - 9/22/2004 1:44:58 PM
  - re: A criminal act - gbaikie - 9/22/2004 2:52:57 PM
    - Would you also advocate a long jail term and familial shunning for the jerk who busted the windows of my friend's car because he opposed a conservative candidate? - Mary Anne - 9/22/2004 9:45:46 PM
      - re: Would you also advocate a long jail term and familial shunning for the jerk who busted the windows of my friend's car because he opposed a conservative candidate? - gbaikie - 9/23/2004 1:07:20 AM
        
        He opposed the candidate by posting a sign for the opponent in his front yard and organizing a citizens' Q&A forum for all candidates. - Mary Anne - 9/23/2004 11:06:08 AM
        
        re: He opposed the candidate by posting a sign for the opponent in his front yard and organizing a citizens' Q&A forum for all candidates. - gbaikie - 9/23/2004 12:26:51 PM
    - Oh, that's classy. - Art Martin - 9/22/2004 4:38:57 PM
      - re: Oh, that's classy. - gbaikie - 9/22/2004 5:33:01 PM
        
        Moore (n/t) - alcaray - 9/22/2004 11:30:05 PM

1,038 - Donald - 9/22/2004 2:44:58 PM
- re: Thanks Don - Scott Evil - 9/22/2004 3:06:32 PM
  - "Can you imagine how many would be dead and injured had Sadam had WMD?" - Bowser - 9/22/2004 3:20:23 PM
    - I look forward to your telling us what your dog says to you. (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/22/2004 4:04:43 PM
    - re: Thanks for the logical argument. I nice change. - Scott Evil - 9/22/2004 3:30:23 PM
      - HE DIDN'T HAVE 'EM. How could he use 'em? Migawd, man. (n/t) - Bowser - 9/23/2004 4:29:55 AM
        
        The ones he didn't use to kill the Kurds and Iranians he shipped out of the country. - REB - 9/23/2004 11:58:04 AM
    - Can you imagine how many iraqis would be dead if Saddam was still in power? - REB - 9/22/2004 3:28:47 PM
- Still dishonoring our soldersâ€¦ - REB - 9/22/2004 3:00:50 PM
- A multiple death-gasm day for Don, our resident liar. Go Don go" (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/22/2004 2:49:14 PM

Jeanne is coming back! - Jack Herer - 9/22/2004 5:04:52 PM
- So Is Ivan - LA & TX Get a Much Weaker Version (n/t) - Mark Eby - 9/22/2004 11:57:10 PM
  - Houston's last two major floods were caused by Tropical Storms. - REB - 9/23/2004 11:52:59 AM

Deal in Congress to Keep Tax Cuts, Widening Deficit - Bowser - 9/23/2004 5:00:52 AM
- re: Deal in Congress to Keep Tax Cuts - Tom Brosz - 9/23/2004 6:45:24 AM
  - Correction: that should be "PREDICTED deficit." (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/23/2004 6:46:24 AM
- Do you reallly think you are doing anything here - FrankC - 9/23/2004 5:51:19 AM
  - Do you want to add any content, frankc, or is this simply a conservative flame? (n/t) - Bowser - 9/23/2004 11:22:50 AM

Well I think it's fine....building jumbo planes - Art Martin - 9/22/2004 4:33:03 PM
- I'm being followed by big brother.... - R.L. - 9/22/2004 6:22:41 PM
  - All together now. . . - Fox - 9/22/2004 10:39:24 PM
    - LOL (n/t) - R.L. - 9/22/2004 11:12:47 PM
- re: As a compasionate Conservative I think he should be treated with honor and respect. - Scott Evil - 9/22/2004 5:30:33 PM
- He should have taken the train. - REB - 9/22/2004 4:38:49 PM
  - D'you suppose he's bitterblue? (n/t) - Fox - 9/23/2004 1:08:09 AM
    - maybe Burkahblue (n/t) - R.L. - 9/23/2004 8:39:49 AM

Getting out of Iraq (Robert Novak) - Chris Vancil - 9/22/2004 10:05:13 AM
- re: If Bush were to find a way to get the US out of Iraq quickly would that anger you? - Scott Evil - 9/22/2004 2:35:08 PM
  - re: Gees, on so many levels this is bad. First, Bush says he doesn't rule by poll...but this would seem to say YES he does... - Chris Vancil - 9/23/2004 8:22:02 AM
- More un-named sources - p - 9/22/2004 12:58:46 PM
  - re: You don'y have a clue who Novak is do you? (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 9/23/2004 8:06:04 AM

EQ's in Cali - John - 9/22/2004 2:03:32 AM
- re: EQ's in Cali - REB - 9/22/2004 12:41:23 PM
- Map - Tom Brosz - 9/22/2004 4:16:47 AM
- I didn't feel anything - Gary - 9/22/2004 3:15:13 AM
  - re: I didn't feel anything - John - 9/22/2004 3:31:32 AM
    - re: I didn't feel anything - SteveS - 9/22/2004 1:05:55 PM
      - Moving magma...that doesn't sound good. - jms - 9/22/2004 3:29:17 PM
        
        re: Moving magma...that doesn't sound good. - SteveS - 9/22/2004 6:50:26 PM
        
        probably obsidian. - jms - 9/22/2004 8:33:41 PM
        
        Yes, and my laser thermometer only goes up to 535 F, I'm staying put :-) (n/t) - SteveS - 9/23/2004 2:57:20 AM
- Mono Lake area, sports thin crust there too (n/t) - SteveS - 9/22/2004 2:50:36 AM

Cheney energy task force documents released - E.P. Grondine - 9/22/2004 5:33:46 PM
- Complete with pre-invasion maps of Iraqi oil fields and plans for sale. (n/t) - Bowser - 9/22/2004 9:57:36 PM
  - A "bombshell" if it actually gets any media play - think Kerry and Edwrads will use it? - E.P. Grondine - 9/23/2004 1:35:38 AM

David Letterman asked John Kerry: "Would you have sent Troops to Iraq?" - Scott Evil - 9/22/2004 1:35:14 PM
- His response was more than "no" - Art Martin - 9/22/2004 9:09:35 PM
  - So he was a coward. Afraid of a public backlash. - Scott Evil - 9/22/2004 9:50:50 PM
    - re: So he was a coward. Afraid of a public backlash. - Art Martin - 9/22/2004 10:24:33 PM

Cuba and the hurricanes - Raoul - 9/22/2004 5:21:05 PM
- Cuba gets hit by hurricanes?? Are you sure? - Tony - 9/22/2004 7:44:35 PM
  - re: Certainly;) - Raoul - 9/22/2004 8:24:57 PM
- Since for most Cubans everyday life is a disaster, a hurricane is not really much of a change. (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/22/2004 6:09:04 PM

Laying the groundwork for the defeat... - Tom Brosz - 9/22/2004 7:13:41 PM
- The article could have been written by Dan Rather, for its lack of honest content. (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/22/2004 8:16:33 PM

A question for the Democrats who plan on supporting Kerry. - Scott Evil - 9/21/2004 7:12:39 PM
- Cluck, cluck, cluck. Conservative cluckers at it again. - Bowser - 9/21/2004 11:55:22 PM
- Some would, some wouldn't - FrankC - 9/21/2004 10:13:14 PM
  - Bush = Jesus? lol - Art Martin - 9/22/2004 4:49:45 PM
  - re:You have been listening to Bush's Pastor...but you forgot the bit about bring on Armageddon... (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 9/22/2004 10:22:54 AM
  - re: That would probably lose Bush the Election. I might even vote against him if... - Scott Evil - 9/21/2004 10:21:49 PM
    - Not me.. - FrankC - 9/22/2004 12:42:05 AM
      - re: Not me.. - Scott Evil - 9/22/2004 1:19:33 PM
- My OuiJa board says the John Kerry ate children for lunch while he was in college. - David F Mayer - 9/21/2004 10:13:05 PM
  - re: Type up a forged memo. I'm sure we can at least two nutcases who will vouch for the story. (n/t) - Scott Evil - 9/21/2004 10:20:17 PM
- Why? Is Bush planning another "fathered a black child" smear? - alcaray - 9/21/2004 9:24:13 PM
  - Actually, that "smear" was directed against a 100 year old Republican...And Thomas Jefferson... (n/t) - Scott Evil - 9/21/2004 10:00:59 PM
  - What was the Steve Martin comedy? - ebnelson - 9/21/2004 9:55:07 PM
  - How about turning it around? - Tom Brosz - 9/21/2004 9:40:02 PM
    - We have. No more, please. My forehead has not yet healed from the last brick wall. (n/t) - alcaray - 9/21/2004 10:10:44 PM
      - It's So Credible - Mark Eby - 9/22/2004 1:53:18 AM
        
        You see any difference between conduct and outcome of GW1 and GW2? - alcaray - 9/22/2004 3:06:36 PM
- Wouldn't matter. They don't support Kerry. They oppose Bush. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/21/2004 7:22:31 PM
  - Correction. Universally oppose ALL Republicans. (n/t) - Publius - 9/21/2004 8:14:40 PM
    - Cool. (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/21/2004 9:24:40 PM
    - re: That's amazing. - Scott Evil - 9/21/2004 8:49:50 PM
      - my concerns....... - Publius - 9/22/2004 6:48:39 PM

Susan Estrich joins Kerry and flip-flops - ebnelson - 9/22/2004 2:47:46 PM
- A sure sign that the Democrats are peeling themselves off another brick wall... - Tom Brosz - 9/22/2004 3:56:57 PM
  - And what do you think about flip-flops over Iraq? - Bowser - 9/22/2004 6:11:36 PM
    - Kerry's flip-flops over Iraq are giong to cost him - ebnelson - 9/22/2004 6:18:44 PM
- Two birds, one stone. Flip-flops. First it was regime change, then WMDs, then "democracy". And eb owes Donald an apology. - Bowser - 9/22/2004 3:17:46 PM
  - Enjoy pleasing yourself over this. My account with death-gasm don is in good order. - ebnelson - 9/22/2004 4:01:43 PM
  - re: Could you please start diagraming your circular arguments? - Scott Evil - 9/22/2004 3:26:44 PM
    - Dogs run randomly. don't credit Bowser with the ability to make a circular argument. (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/22/2004 4:02:49 PM
      - Some dogs chase their tails. - REB - 9/22/2004 4:22:53 PM
- re: Kerry really does want to focus this campaign back on the same issues as the 1960's - Scott Evil - 9/22/2004 3:02:07 PM
  - re: Kerry really does want to focus this campaign back on the same issues as the 1960's - REB - 9/22/2004 3:14:07 PM
    - Sometimes, past performance is a predictor of future activity - Larry J - 9/22/2004 4:11:39 PM

Kidnapping training? - REB - 9/22/2004 1:26:20 PM
- re: Makes sense. - Scott Evil - 9/22/2004 1:47:02 PM
  - Locators - Tom Brosz - 9/22/2004 4:06:27 PM
    - Even if it was fairly large, it would be great if we could give them a device that could announce "panic!" - Scott Evil - 9/22/2004 5:09:46 PM
  - That is a great idea. - REB - 9/22/2004 1:59:22 PM
    - a good idea is a good idea - jms - 9/22/2004 2:56:21 PM
      - GPS signals are incredibly weak - Larry J - 9/22/2004 3:01:16 PM
        
        true, but, - jms - 9/22/2004 3:09:38 PM
        
        re: I wonder if they could tie into a cell phone network... - Scott Evil - 9/22/2004 3:09:13 PM
        
        Kind of like an Amber Alert? - REB - 9/22/2004 3:16:21 PM
        
        re: GPS signals are incredibly weak - REB - 9/22/2004 3:06:24 PM
    - re: Like any tool, they could be used and abused if they fell into the wrong hands. - Scott Evil - 9/22/2004 2:16:26 PM

Bush Is Going To Take Kerry To The Woodshed - Mark Eby - 9/22/2004 3:11:48 AM
- Swifties and other negative ads hurt. Rs got a good bounce from their convention. - alcaray - 9/22/2004 4:56:48 PM
- re: Kerry's a great debater... - Scott Evil - 9/22/2004 1:23:56 PM
- re: The Woodshed - Tom Brosz - 9/22/2004 4:13:46 AM

Bush's campaign and debate strategy... - Larry J - 9/22/2004 4:24:49 PM

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