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Dan Rather, the media, and patterns of behavior. - Tom Brosz - 9/15/2004 7:33:05 PM
- P.S. - Tom Brosz - 9/15/2004 7:34:42 PM

Theresa Heinz Kerry.... - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/12/2004 2:23:43 AM
- re: Theresa Heinz Kerry.... - Big mama T - 9/15/2004 6:34:45 PM
- Heard all that... - FrankC - 8/12/2004 4:01:38 AM
  - Martha Mitchell was right. - Mary Anne - 8/12/2004 12:24:44 PM
    - She was right and still nuts - FrankC - 8/12/2004 6:41:32 PM
      - re: She was right and still nuts: LOL - Mary Anne - 8/12/2004 9:00:57 PM

Yea! [groan] right!...Well, Scott Evil [Message URL: 65.101.83.93]... in reply to your posts below, I gather you still love to C...BS? (n/t) - Jacob Samorodin - 9/15/2004 6:00:18 PM

Dan Rather is going to address the forged documents tonight on evening news. (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/10/2004 9:23:14 PM
- Please let this play out and let's get on with important shit. - Art Martin - 9/11/2004 5:33:12 AM
  - Oh, please. If this had been forged documents favoring Bush, it would be all Democrats would be talking about for six weeks. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/11/2004 5:58:08 AM
    - re: Oh, please. And if these documents were not forged documents and unflattering to Bush, the RNC and it fellow travelers would be calling them fakes for six months. Truth is not the primary objecti… (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 9/12/2004 10:22:17 AM
      - Remember Watergate? - Paul - 9/15/2004 5:46:29 PM
- CBS presents 1972 email supporting its case - phil - 9/10/2004 10:51:49 PM
  - CBS did not have E-mail in 1972. (n/t) - DFM - 9/12/2004 1:51:02 AM
    - Tough crowd, Phil. ;) (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/12/2004 5:58:43 AM
- So Rather sticks to his lie - ebnelson - 9/10/2004 10:43:55 PM
- CBS looks like they are going to try and bluff their way out of it. - ebnelson - 9/10/2004 9:46:54 PM
  - re: If Rather doesn't release his source then this will dog Kerry until the election. - Scott Evil - 9/10/2004 10:02:20 PM
    - I think he is going to try and do like Kerry: just bluster and blame the whole thing on the VRWC - ebnelson - 9/10/2004 10:07:13 PM
      - As predicted. Rather is slick. (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/10/2004 11:06:17 PM

Kelly book due out Tuesday - E.P. Grondine - 9/15/2004 2:52:21 PM
- Will it be in the Fiction section where it belongs. - REB - 9/15/2004 3:46:57 PM
- My bet is that even with the NBC three day infomercial it will not reach #1. - ebnelson - 9/15/2004 3:02:19 PM
  - re: Matt Lauer to his credit, made her look like a shrill Bush hater...But then she is a shrill Bush hater... (n/t) - Scott Evil - 9/15/2004 4:58:15 PM
  - The popular vote: 51%, and everyone is running their Kelly interview - E.P. Grondine - 9/15/2004 3:29:10 PM
  - The more Republican hysteria, the bigger the sales (n/t) - alcaray - 9/15/2004 3:15:32 PM
    - The hysteria seems to be more from the DNC. - ebnelson - 9/15/2004 3:24:36 PM
      - Is that a smile on your face? You don't read like someone who can smile (unless at someone's misfortune). (n/t) - alcaray - 9/15/2004 4:04:10 PM
      - the counter attacks seem to me to have been effective. - E.P. Grondine - 9/15/2004 3:37:37 PM
        
        What election are you refering to? - ebnelson - 9/15/2004 4:23:03 PM

I'm really suprized that Nader hasn't picked up steam as Kerry implodes. - Scott Evil - 9/15/2004 2:37:10 PM
- My son is in school - ebnelson - 9/15/2004 2:40:15 PM
  - re: My son is in school - gbaikie - 9/15/2004 4:23:41 PM

CBS blinks - ebnelson - 9/15/2004 2:06:22 PM
- CBS is supposed to release a statement around noon about the fake documents. - REB - 9/15/2004 2:20:45 PM
  - re: they are doomed if their statement admits they are fakes but they are standing by the story. - Scott Evil - 9/15/2004 2:31:58 PM
    - When are the CBS suits going to step in? (n/t) - Gary - 9/15/2004 3:47:00 PM

Rather optimistic - gbaikie - 9/15/2004 2:10:40 PM
- re: Like Tony Blair, Rather and 60 Minutes recent reporting should be scrutanized from top to bottom for other descrepancies. - Scott Evil - 9/15/2004 2:26:23 PM
  - re: Opps, another one...That should read Jayson Blair...It was a rough night... (n/t) - Scott Evil - 9/15/2004 2:28:49 PM
    - Of course, the original fraud: Stephen Glass... But of course you forget that one (n/t) - Davin L. - 9/15/2004 2:43:58 PM
      - No. Thanks for adding to the list: Glass, Blair, Rather... - Scott Evil - 9/15/2004 2:55:44 PM

How to understand DNC/NYT/CBS thinking - ebnelson - 9/15/2004 2:46:21 PM

Truth in typing? - E.P. Grondine - 9/15/2004 4:00:58 AM
- 'What did Dan Rather know, and when did he know it?' - Larry J - 9/15/2004 2:09:54 PM
- Yo Uncle Eddie, only you and Chrissie think these are 'real' - phil - 9/15/2004 1:50:17 PM
  - Its obvious that the John Kerry Campaign had a hand in producing the forgeries. Kerry's Corruption makes Nixon look lily white. - Scott Evil - 9/15/2004 1:57:16 PM
  - If the source of the fakes comes out... - REB - 9/15/2004 1:55:00 PM
    - I think the fakes were produced by the ex-TANG clerk - ebnelson - 9/15/2004 2:12:07 PM
- Earth to EP: the docs are fake. The question is how large a blast radius will develop against MSM & DNC for doing it? (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/15/2004 1:43:07 PM
- Good Lord, they're fake. Have ANY of you been paying attention to the news? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/15/2004 4:38:01 AM
- "And if they turn out to be real"??? That is absurd. They are fakes on the surface. The date format alone is sufficient to prove them fakes. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 9/15/2004 4:18:48 AM
  - re: Even the Washington Post says they are fake. - Scott Evil - 9/15/2004 1:54:19 PM
    - re: Opps, I meant Washington Times... Can the New York Times be far behind? (n/t) - Scott Evil - 9/15/2004 2:10:07 PM

To show that CBS is acting in bad faith - ebnelson - 9/15/2004 3:15:39 AM
- What goes around, comes around - E.P. Grondine - 9/15/2004 3:28:24 AM
  - Please clarify? (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/15/2004 3:31:14 AM
    - Kerry isn't Dukakis (n/t) - E.P. Grondine - 9/15/2004 3:48:06 AM
      - Al Gore originated the Willie Horton attack - phil - 9/15/2004 1:52:52 PM
      - Thanks, Capt. Obvious - ebnelson - 9/15/2004 1:42:03 PM

Good Luck Frank C, Ivan headed Right Towards You & My Old House For Sale - Mark Eby - 9/14/2004 7:18:49 PM
- Thanks Mark - FrankC - 9/14/2004 8:18:26 PM
  - re: Thanks Mark - Mark Eby - 9/15/2004 12:01:16 AM
- Y'all from the Miss./Al coast? (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/14/2004 7:57:41 PM
  - No - Mark Eby - 9/15/2004 12:46:59 AM
  - Yep, Mobile, AL, Mark recently moved to GA (n/t) - FrankC - 9/14/2004 8:19:42 PM
    - Pascagoula, myself. - ebnelson - 9/14/2004 9:17:43 PM
      - I thought you were in Houston... - FrankC - 9/14/2004 9:27:35 PM
        
        Pascagoula is where my family is from, and have a lot of family still - ebnelson - 9/14/2004 10:15:58 PM
    - You might want to find some high ground - Larry J - 9/14/2004 8:53:34 PM
      - I'm on Cottage Hill - FrankC - 9/14/2004 9:19:47 PM
        
        re: I'm on Cottage Hill - Lindy - 9/15/2004 8:28:40 AM

An unpleasant development in Sudan - Tom Brosz - 9/15/2004 5:29:37 AM

"few Iraqis have access to potable water and most receive electricity for about half the day" - Bowser - 9/15/2004 4:54:06 AM
- An American ambassador said that. - Bowser - 9/15/2004 4:56:12 AM

Just part of the best part: Kelly on W Bush drug use, or W goes for the youth vote - E.P. Grondine - 9/14/2004 9:25:59 PM
- Odd...I must have missed MSNBC's excerpts of "Unfit for Command." - Tom Brosz - 9/14/2004 9:50:32 PM
  - Nah, MSNBC just thought "Unfit" was "untrue" - E.P. Grondine - 9/15/2004 2:59:18 AM
  - The old media is standing farther and farther from the center of public square - ebnelson - 9/14/2004 10:17:44 PM
    - Delusions end hard. - E.P. Grondine - 9/15/2004 3:24:48 AM

Isn't New Orleans about half under water anyway? - Bowser - 9/15/2004 12:06:09 AM
- If the storm strikes to the east very much at all, they will be OK. - ebnelson - 9/15/2004 3:04:28 AM
- Will it be a Catastrophe or a Disaster? - John - 9/15/2004 12:56:38 AM

City Determines Possible Sources of Loud Booms - Derek - 9/15/2004 2:40:11 AM

A short article on the man many of you would have given your right arm to be President... - Tom Brosz - 9/13/2004 7:04:16 PM
- Doubt many were truly energized as you imply. - Art Martin - 9/14/2004 4:42:57 AM
  - How does it feel to have a complete intellectual void as a political philosophy? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/14/2004 4:48:14 AM
    - By which I mean... - Tom Brosz - 9/14/2004 4:51:53 AM
      - hmm, think I hit a button there - Art Martin - 9/14/2004 5:20:46 AM
        
        So go ahead and vote Libertarian. They're running another idiot this year. - Tom Brosz - 9/14/2004 4:31:19 PM
        
        Reread my post - Art Martin - 9/14/2004 8:58:56 PM
- Al Gore is a Big Fat Idiot. :-D (n/t) - Lee "Franken" - 9/14/2004 2:46:23 AM
- 'Some kind of cheerleader on acid' - Larry J - 9/13/2004 9:33:48 PM
  - re: The scream could remind one of Howard Dean. - Scott Evil - 9/13/2004 10:21:37 PM
    - re: The scream could remind one of Howard Dean. - REB - 9/14/2004 12:46:52 PM
- And some people think Zell Miller is over the top. (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/13/2004 9:19:00 PM
- Not me, Bucko - Fox - 9/13/2004 9:05:42 PM
  - Seriously. - Beth - 9/14/2004 5:24:28 PM
    - Mock elections and third parties - Fox - 9/15/2004 1:56:12 AM
  - Romantic fog of youth, or did he have policies you liked? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/13/2004 9:34:59 PM
- Where would many of us be? - Bowser - 9/13/2004 7:40:28 PM
  - Oh, really? - Tom Brosz - 9/13/2004 7:51:55 PM
    - re: Where? - Raoul - 9/13/2004 9:20:01 PM
    - Must be easy to pick a candidate when you have mutant powers to see into alternate universes (n/t) - alcaray - 9/13/2004 7:54:47 PM
      - It's called "thinking." - Tom Brosz - 9/13/2004 8:11:07 PM
        
        Anomalist thinking. With so many real issues, the Rs are going with silliness. - Bowser - 9/13/2004 9:36:40 PM
        
        How cute. Trying to link Tom and myself to anomalist thinking is - ebnelson - 9/13/2004 10:03:55 PM
        
        Sure, like dwelling on National Guard records from 1973. - Larry J - 9/13/2004 10:02:12 PM

Newsweek - "It's Worse Than You Think". Or, "I think the Iraqis are voting." - Bowser - 9/13/2004 11:45:38 PM
- It may be overblown by the media. The Iraqi government IS functioning. - David F Mayer - 9/14/2004 3:53:31 AM
- The terrorists, like CBS, want Kerry to win desperately. (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/14/2004 2:19:56 AM
- Yes It's Getting Worse - Mark Eby - 9/14/2004 2:03:25 AM
  - Bush speek. - REB - 9/14/2004 12:57:08 PM
- re: Newsweek - Tom Brosz - 9/14/2004 12:27:01 AM
  - You Think He'd Ever Admit It? - Mark Eby - 9/14/2004 1:46:24 AM
    - By and large, I don't think we are heros of Iraqis, either. (n/t) - alcaray - 9/14/2004 6:04:35 PM
      - Accusations Of Incompetance Are Different From Terror - Mark Eby - 9/15/2004 12:44:24 AM
    - He's probably been reading Captain America. - Lee - 9/14/2004 7:42:03 AM
    - re: You Think He'd Ever Admit It? - Tom Brosz - 9/14/2004 4:18:23 AM
      - The problem is not with the folks with their feet on the ground. - Bowser - 9/14/2004 5:32:50 AM

An Iraqi discusses Fallujah - Tom Brosz - 9/13/2004 10:58:19 PM
- Is that another Kurd? Like the "Iraqi Special Forces"? - Bowser - 9/13/2004 11:33:35 PM
  - Do you even know how to use the internet? - Tom Brosz - 9/14/2004 12:30:04 AM
    - Chalabi has a great bio, also. - Bowser - 9/14/2004 3:51:47 AM
      - P.S. - Tom Brosz - 9/14/2004 4:46:57 AM
      - What the hell would "bad" look like to me? - Tom Brosz - 9/14/2004 4:45:29 AM
        
        You want the left completely destroyed? That's wacked Tom. - Art Martin - 9/14/2004 5:10:17 AM
        
        How does that follow? - FrankC - 9/14/2004 7:00:18 PM
        
        "Diversity" is not an end in itself. - Tom Brosz - 9/14/2004 5:20:26 AM
        
        Geez. You're beginning to sound like me before the vacation. - Bowser - 9/14/2004 5:46:05 AM
        
        It's a lot less than half. - Tom Brosz - 9/14/2004 4:13:22 PM
        
        Let's root them out and kill them (n/t) - alcaray - 9/14/2004 6:07:15 PM
        
        re: Rooting them out and exposing them is better. - Tom Brosz - 9/14/2004 6:42:29 PM
        
        You are mistaken, sir - alcaray - 9/14/2004 8:50:46 PM
        
        "In America we are encouraged to believe and to speak about what we want to." - Tom Brosz - 9/14/2004 11:25:10 PM
        
        Getting pretty smoky in here (n/t) - alcaray - 9/14/2004 11:36:51 PM

Depression, Drugs and Kids - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/14/2004 1:16:39 AM
- Don't suppose drug company marketing has anything to do with it. (n/t) - alcaray - 9/14/2004 5:59:31 PM
- Bed wetting. - David F Mayer - 9/14/2004 3:50:45 AM
  - Or placebo effect. Pill might have been sugar. (n/t) - alcaray - 9/14/2004 6:00:44 PM
    - Well, the urologist DID find an infection. The antibiotics WERE given. Subsequent examinaiton showed no infection. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 9/14/2004 6:30:50 PM
      - Probably so - alcaray - 9/14/2004 10:52:40 PM

'Shocked' Blair Warns over Climate Change - Jack Herer - 9/14/2004 2:14:18 PM
- Jeb Bush Might Attend - Mark Eby - 9/14/2004 9:44:32 PM

Kitty Kelly book to hit stands soon - E.P. Grondine - 9/14/2004 2:36:01 AM
- New York Times gives it a pretty bad review - Larry J - 9/14/2004 2:49:00 PM
  - Doesn't matter - Kelly knows her audience - E.P. Grondine - 9/14/2004 8:55:54 PM
- Sharon Bush says Kelly is lying - Larry J - 9/14/2004 1:38:31 PM
  - Sharon Bush says she never told Kelly that - E.P. Grondine - 9/14/2004 2:39:41 PM

Lost H-Bomb found? - Tom Brosz - 9/14/2004 7:21:34 PM
- Perhaps - Larry J - 9/14/2004 7:58:15 PM

Bush's agenda could top $3 trillion - President doesn't emphasize 10-year price tag - Bowser. - 9/14/2004 5:40:39 AM
- And now, the details... - Tom Brosz - 9/14/2004 3:35:29 PM
  - If asked most people will say negative campaigning turns them off, they are concerned with the issues. - Bowser - 9/14/2004 6:56:27 PM
    - re: negative campaigning - Tom Brosz - 9/14/2004 7:24:26 PM

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