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So this is why Kerry has avoided releasing his records - ebnelson - 9/14/2004 2:04:19 PM
- Sorry, I'm with Kerry on that one. - Tom Brosz - 9/14/2004 4:41:43 PM
  - No problem with the shooting. He just misrepresented what happened. (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/14/2004 5:27:31 PM
  - Dittos (n/t) - p - 9/14/2004 5:21:46 PM
- What crap. Killing an armed enemy who is fleeing is definitely proper conduct during war. The fact that the enemy was young is irrelevant. He was armed. Even if unarmed, it was kosher. - David F Mayer - 9/14/2004 4:38:55 PM
- re: Since John Kerry was so fond of re-enactments, filming them himself for his home movie archives... - Scott Evil - 9/14/2004 3:11:31 PM
  - From an interview with O'Niel of Swiftboats... - Larry J - 9/14/2004 4:19:49 PM

Curious about positions on ethnic diversity.................. - Publius - 9/12/2004 10:26:42 PM
- I am all for diversity, within reason... - R.L. - 9/14/2004 7:55:07 AM
  - Ballet? - Beth - 9/14/2004 4:54:52 PM
- You know, the more I look at this, the more I wonder where the problem actually lies. - Mary Anne - 9/13/2004 2:36:04 PM
- Should blood banks make exceptions to the rules for Jehovah's Witness employees? (n/t) - Lee - 9/13/2004 3:50:55 AM
  - That was a puzzling statement. Would you clarify, please? - Beth - 9/13/2004 5:19:23 AM
- Not an issue of ethnic diversity, but rather divisive religious fervor - m - 9/13/2004 2:47:49 AM
  - I guess by that you infer....... - Publius - 9/13/2004 1:50:03 PM
    - Sorry, guy. "Xmas" doesn't work either. ;) - Mary Anne - 9/13/2004 2:17:34 PM
  - My...that was a bit uncharitable. - Beth - 9/13/2004 4:23:14 AM
    - Yes, admittedly, a bit - m - 9/13/2004 9:46:50 PM
- Another story that might have some relevance - Tom Brosz - 9/13/2004 1:06:37 AM
- Probably have to find a way to do it. - Bowser - 9/13/2004 12:50:34 AM
- long pants, a top with long sleeves and a head scarf. - FrankC - 9/13/2004 12:13:12 AM
- "Ethnic diversity" or "health & safety"? - Beth - 9/13/2004 12:12:29 AM
  - re: compromise is for *both* sides - Mary Anne - 9/13/2004 12:39:44 AM
    - You're right - Todd - 9/13/2004 2:38:14 AM
      - NCAA rules are less flexible than local school leagues. - Mary Anne - 9/13/2004 1:19:02 PM
- re: Curious about positions on ethnic diversity.................. - gbaikie - 9/12/2004 11:09:59 PM

Expert Cited by CBS Says He Didn't Authenticate Papers - Gary - 9/14/2004 3:46:06 AM
- Richard Nixon has reincarnated as Dan Rather - ebnelson - 9/14/2004 1:51:47 PM
- The suits at CBS are probably hoping this flap will bring in lots of viewers. - Scott Evil - 9/14/2004 1:20:13 PM
  - I will not watch CBS anymoer until they deal with this. Many more people are going to do the same thing. - ebnelson - 9/14/2004 1:38:28 PM
    - I haven't watched broadcast network news in ten years. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/14/2004 3:44:08 PM

Safire weighs in on CBS fraud - ebnelson - 9/13/2004 9:10:56 PM
- re: Safire weighs in on CBS fraud - Ola - 9/14/2004 1:43:48 AM
  - Why don't you ask someone who owns a Selectric Composer - Larry J - 9/14/2004 1:35:51 PM
    - I think Ola prefers to recycle nonsense from www.dailykos.com (n/t) - Gary - 9/14/2004 3:28:59 PM
  - The selectric composer diversion - ebnelson - 9/14/2004 2:18:37 AM
    - re: The selectric composer diversion - ola - 9/14/2004 2:26:15 AM
      - re: Thats a pretty big stretch. I doubt it happened that way. - Scott Evil - 9/14/2004 1:49:31 PM
      - Except - ebnelson - 9/14/2004 3:16:32 AM
        
        And his secretary was probably a guy ;-) - SteveS - 9/14/2004 3:23:17 AM

Next attack by the Bush campaign: my guess. - David F Mayer - 9/14/2004 4:00:31 AM
- The 'attacks' will come from Kerry's band of brothers, the Vietnam vets - ebnelson - 9/14/2004 1:37:06 PM
- re: Next attack by the Bush campaign: why bother? - Tom Brosz - 9/14/2004 4:09:29 AM
  - re: Next attack by the Bush campaign: why bother? - Gary - 9/14/2004 4:17:18 AM
    - A vote for George Bush is a vote against Dan Rather. - Scott Evil - 9/14/2004 1:27:11 PM
- John Q. Sixpack has a two week memory span. - Gary - 9/14/2004 4:06:48 AM

Right-wing clamed hoax, a hoax in itself - Chris Vancil - 9/13/2004 7:34:25 AM
- The problem is with CBS - ebnelson - 9/13/2004 4:15:07 PM
- re: However, as one who has used an IBM Selectric II typewriter - Scott Evil - 9/13/2004 1:49:56 PM
  - I presume you won't give it up till your dying day some have a real trouble assimilating stuff that doesn't quite fit their reality. (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 9/13/2004 2:37:55 PM
  - It is 100% identical to Word. - REB - 9/13/2004 2:01:04 PM
    - re: And did they try an IBM Selectric or Executive? (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 9/13/2004 3:22:45 PM
      - From the guy who runs the IBM Selectric Typewriter Museum - Larry J - 9/13/2004 9:04:43 PM
        
        re:Yes expert can disagree. Your point? - Chris Vancil - 9/14/2004 12:08:07 AM
        
        Most experts do agree that the documents are forgeries - Larry J - 9/14/2004 1:33:20 PM
      - This one went far further - Larry J - 9/13/2004 6:32:11 PM
    - re: Maybe the "F" in John F. Kerry is for "Forgery" - Scott Evil - 9/13/2004 2:26:48 PM
- Good luck with drinking that type of koolaid. CBS and Kerry are only fooling the sheep. (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/13/2004 12:51:59 PM

Deja vu all over again - Mary Anne - 9/13/2004 3:47:00 PM
- LOL! - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/13/2004 10:19:39 PM
  - Define "kids" - Mary Anne - 9/14/2004 12:40:19 AM
    - I'm partial to the Spartan philosophy: - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/14/2004 1:36:17 AM
  - Picked the wrong friends. - Art Martin - 9/13/2004 11:11:52 PM
- Ages of majority - Tom Brosz - 9/13/2004 9:17:15 PM
  - re: I wish they would return to Prohibition. - Scott Evil - 9/13/2004 10:33:40 PM
    - I wish people would outgrow the need to get wasted. - Lee - 9/14/2004 5:37:19 AM
    - No kidding! I could rebuild my great-grandfather's moonshine empire... ( ; (n/t) - Beth - 9/13/2004 11:03:01 PM
- in re vu...... - Publius - 9/13/2004 8:40:34 PM
- Absolutely, completely 85% correct. - Bowser - 9/13/2004 4:03:28 PM
  - re: Absolutely, completely 85% correct. - Tom Brosz - 9/13/2004 4:39:31 PM
  - And that is 100% correct - FrankC - 9/13/2004 4:30:46 PM
  - If we could keep alcohol out of the hands of the 15%, I would agree. - Mary Anne - 9/13/2004 4:20:00 PM
    - With all due respect, if it's that important already to them, the issue is decided. - Bowser - 9/13/2004 5:39:10 PM
      - Not really. - Mary Anne - 9/13/2004 6:18:06 PM
        
        Let's wait. The situation will define itself one way or the other. - Bowser - 9/13/2004 7:39:25 PM
        
        The situation *has* defined itself. - Beth - 9/13/2004 10:01:07 PM
- In Texas it is not unlawful for parents to let their kids drink at home. (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/13/2004 3:53:33 PM

France's Muslims Rally Around the Republic - David F Mayer - 9/13/2004 3:31:47 PM
- Thank you, sincerely. - Mary Anne - 9/13/2004 3:50:49 PM
  - Excellent news - p - 9/13/2004 6:22:31 PM
    - They need support. - Mary Anne - 9/14/2004 12:55:57 AM
      - What you say is true in Iraq as well. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/14/2004 4:55:39 AM

Memo to Kerry, CBS and Rather: Walk away while you can. - ebnelson - 9/13/2004 8:58:50 PM
- Heh, heh. - Bowser - 9/13/2004 11:31:29 PM
  - You should try some antacid..maybe a lot of antacid. (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/14/2004 1:42:18 AM
- re: This is getting funnier by the moment. Kerry just can't come to grips that this issue is going to sink him. - Scott Evil - 9/13/2004 10:14:42 PM
- Damn! They should have waited to see the whites of their eyes... - Tom Brosz - 9/13/2004 9:43:56 PM
  - I think under estimating the stupidity of the Kerry Kampaign is difficult - ebnelson - 9/13/2004 10:01:09 PM
    - re: Kerry must believe that if he can keep this issue going through the debates that it is a sure winner for him. - Scott Evil - 9/13/2004 10:18:52 PM
- Active Duty for Training - Larry J - 9/13/2004 9:25:47 PM
  - It will be interesting if the Kerry Kids still try and unleash their attack on his 1978 airforce commments. - ebnelson - 9/13/2004 9:32:50 PM

More extracts from Kitty Kelly book - E.P. Grondine - 9/13/2004 12:14:54 AM
- Her main sources have contradicted her book, as has happened repeatedly with her fiction (n/t) - p - 9/13/2004 2:08:27 AM
  - re: Name some names, P. (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 9/13/2004 7:50:20 AM
    - We can start with Sharon Bush - Larry J - 9/13/2004 3:14:02 PM
      - uhhh, Larry.... - E.P. Grondine - 9/14/2004 1:23:17 AM

Ben Barnes' daughter says - REB - 9/13/2004 12:52:40 PM
- The Democrats think that if they can make up a wild enough story about Bush, then it will stick. - Scott Evil - 9/13/2004 1:35:50 PM
  - re: The Republicans think if they yell fake enough it will stick.... - Chris Vancil - 9/13/2004 3:03:14 PM
    - From a leading typography expert - Larry J - 9/14/2004 12:04:05 AM
    - and they are correct, the facts on CBS' fakery are sticking (n/t) - p - 9/13/2004 6:25:41 PM
    - Keep crying wolf. - REB - 9/13/2004 3:34:58 PM
    - If you don't like 'fake',, how about 'fraud', 'forgery', 'phony', or even, 'slander'? (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/13/2004 3:22:32 PM
    - It is a fake. - REB - 9/13/2004 3:05:39 PM
  - Once again, proof that Republicans get it backwards....... - Publius - 9/13/2004 2:32:58 PM
    - Abandoning claims for intellectual integrity. - Bowser - 9/13/2004 3:42:29 PM
      - I thought you were finally coming out of the closet. Oh well. (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/13/2004 3:46:17 PM
    - So your koolaid is taking effect - ebnelson - 9/13/2004 2:53:31 PM
      - re: This coming from someone who hides from reality so well? (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 9/13/2004 3:05:08 PM
        
        I am not really good at hide and seek, unlike the Kerry Koolaid Kids (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/13/2004 3:24:12 PM

Good news from Iraq, Part 10. - Tom Brosz - 9/13/2004 5:19:41 AM
- Read the news. - Bowser - 9/13/2004 3:47:00 PM
  - How many of those 25 million live under the daily occupation of the US? - Bowser - 9/13/2004 5:42:26 PM
    - re: How many of those 25 million NEED to live under the daily occupation of the US? - Tom Brosz - 9/13/2004 10:54:24 PM
    - Are you comparing American Troops to Saddam the murderous dictator. - REB - 9/13/2004 7:32:37 PM
  - There are 25 million people in Iraq, Bowser. Do some math. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/13/2004 4:47:17 PM

A rally in D.C. you might have missed on the news... - Tom Brosz - 9/13/2004 6:52:32 PM
- Kerry is in BIG trouble - ebnelson - 9/13/2004 9:20:16 PM

The Rather faithful can get up to 25,000 dollars - gbaikie - 9/13/2004 5:13:36 AM
- Crazy logic: Creating a fake is not proof the original is a fake! There are forgeries of "Sunflower" this doesn't mean van Gogh didn't paint the original. You people owe Rather an apology. (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 9/13/2004 7:48:47 AM
  - Chris, it's easy money- knock yourself out! [idiot] (n/t) - gbaikie - 9/13/2004 9:03:59 AM
    - re: Oh yeah your truly brilliant...when I see a cashiers check for 25,000 dollars maybe then. (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 9/13/2004 3:20:36 PM
      - Didn't you say same thing regarding X-prize? (n/t) - gbaikie - 9/13/2004 9:01:38 PM

Coordination between Kerry campaign and CBS on Rathergate forgeries - ebnelson - 9/12/2004 4:21:13 AM
- One in one memo is President Bush refered to Bush and not Lt. Bush? - REB - 9/13/2004 8:57:51 PM
- AFM v. AFR - Pete Stanle - 9/12/2004 6:05:08 AM
  - Yes, and in addition, there was no AFM 35-13 - Larry J - 9/13/2004 2:31:50 PM
  - re: AFM v. AFR - Tom Brosz - 9/12/2004 6:19:10 AM
    - 60 minutes has been irresponsible for a long time - Gary - 9/12/2004 6:00:04 PM
- This was clearly done by one or more idiots. It is amazing how anybody that stupid can be involved in the Kerry campaign. - David F Mayer - 9/12/2004 6:01:10 AM
  - Actually I believe that Kerrry IS stupid - phil - 9/12/2004 12:59:18 PM
    - I don't believe that for a minute. Kerry did NOT get where he is today by being stupid. Neither did Bush, for that matter. - David F Mayer - 9/13/2004 7:49:44 PM
    - Calling Kerry "stupid" is like comparing his service record with Bushs. - Bowser - 9/12/2004 7:39:12 PM
      - Oh, yeah. Kerry's a genius. If enough people keep saying so, it must be true. - Tom Brosz - 9/12/2004 8:20:31 PM
        
        I didn't say he was. I said no matter what he is, he's a helluva lot smarter than Bush. - Bowser - 9/12/2004 9:33:53 PM
        
        re: I didn't say he was. I said no matter what he is, he's a helluva lot smarter than Bush. - Tom Brosz - 9/13/2004 12:17:43 AM
        
        Have you seen any "objective evidence" that Iraqi Fallujah fighters weren't the heroes described, and, indeed - Bowser - 9/13/2004 12:48:05 AM

Has anyone else seen this product on Fox or CNN? - Beth - 9/13/2004 3:17:34 AM
- Almost - Fox - 9/13/2004 8:29:53 PM
- Noncirculating commerative proof coins (don't buy them) - Gary - 9/13/2004 5:31:39 AM
- re: Has anyone else seen this product on Fox or CNN? - Tom Brosz - 9/13/2004 5:15:13 AM
  - You know, I didn't consider that. - Beth - 9/13/2004 5:57:58 AM
    - You could have a point. All I had to go by was the printed ad. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/13/2004 6:28:03 AM
    - Your household............... - Lindy - 9/13/2004 6:22:20 AM
      - ( : hee hee, thanks! (n/t) - Beth - 9/13/2004 6:35:42 AM
- Completely tasteless (n/t) - Art Martin - 9/13/2004 3:28:28 AM

Overall, the race for President is still neck and neck. - Chris Vancil - 9/10/2004 4:53:21 PM
- Don't let reality trouble you - FrankC - 9/10/2004 8:28:03 PM
  - re: Whose general consensus? - Chris Vancil - 9/10/2004 9:42:05 PM
- Probably not any longer. Kerry has been sinking fast since the GOP convention. ALL polls show this. If the trend continues, Kerry will lose for sure. - David F Mayer - 9/10/2004 6:02:09 PM
  - re: Obviously you're mistaken almost all polls show the reverse is the trend. Kerry equal or is gaining ground. - Chris Vancil - 9/10/2004 9:54:33 PM
    - You and I are not looking at the same polls. - David F Mayer - 9/13/2004 8:04:59 PM

My problem with argument about Intel for WMD... - Chris Vancil - 9/13/2004 9:06:20 AM
- Lets take a trip down memory lane to 1998 and Operation Desert Fox - REB - 9/13/2004 2:25:05 PM
- re: Kerry was on the intel committee. Why didn't he warn Bush. - Scott Evil - 9/13/2004 1:37:54 PM
  - re: Thank you for making my point! Bush wouldn't have listened. Being bipartisan isn't part of his agenda and listening isn't either. (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 9/13/2004 2:31:39 PM
- Has Kerry come up with a real policy or released his military records? Didn't think so. (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/13/2004 12:50:18 PM
  - Concidering what is "real" to you I don't thinlk it much matters what Kerry says... And Kerry has 10 x as much data out there on his military record than Bush. Your point? - Chris Vancil - 9/13/2004 2:28:22 PM
    - Tell that to the Washington Post - Larry J - 9/13/2004 5:44:25 PM
    - That you even use a site that falsely claims he was awol ispitiful (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/13/2004 2:54:51 PM
      - re: Not the point. It has a side by side comparison of their records as released. Kerry has been more forth coming...face reality, Ed. (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 9/13/2004 3:09:21 PM
        
        The internal structure, the fact that reputable REAL analysts, and the fact that that CBS's own sources say it is a fraud is enough for reasonable people. - ebnelson - 9/13/2004 3:41:46 PM
  - re: Kerry is for education. - Scott Evil - 9/13/2004 1:41:33 PM

9/11 in Bay Area schools. - Tom Brosz - 9/13/2004 5:08:07 PM

New York Port Authority Suing Saudi Family $4 Billion for 9/11 - Lindy - 9/13/2004 4:12:33 PM
- Now you're talking .. - Daniel - 9/13/2004 4:53:08 PM

Did Bush arrange for a girlfriend to have an abortion? - Chris Vancil - 9/13/2004 8:05:06 AM
- re: Just what is in the Kerry Kool Aid anyway? - Scott Evil - 9/13/2004 1:28:24 PM
- Are you joining the "Boy who cried wolf" crowd? - REB - 9/13/2004 1:17:15 PM
  - re: Who's they? (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 9/13/2004 3:10:32 PM
    - This was brought up during the last election. - REB - 9/13/2004 3:13:14 PM
  - re: No matter what Whoopie Goldberg says, Bush never dated her. - Scott Evil - 9/13/2004 1:31:01 PM
- So what if he did? - ebnelson - 9/13/2004 12:49:15 PM
  - re: It goes to his base (anti-abortion right) and whether he is a hypocrite. (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 9/13/2004 3:14:08 PM
    - If it were true, it would still be nothing compared to Kerry's betrayal of the troops after he got home. - ebnelson - 9/13/2004 3:45:25 PM

"Iraqi Special Forces" and other propaganda. Brief notes. - Bowser - 9/13/2004 3:38:31 PM

(neocon)...Their expectation is that the United States would not only change Iraq's regime but also remain as a long-term occupation force in an attempt to reconstruct Iraqi society itself... - Chris Vancil - 9/13/2004 8:35:33 AM
- re: (Kerry)...I would pull troops out of Iraq immediatly, and move them to Isreal to protect Palestinians from Naked Isreali Agression (n/t) - Scott Evil - 9/13/2004 1:43:53 PM
  - re:So any lie will do with you, Scott. These are actual quotes I give you. (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 9/13/2004 2:34:36 PM

Maytag shifts its refrigerator production from Galesburg, IL to Reynosa, Mexico - Eric - 9/12/2004 3:04:19 PM
- A sad story......... - Publius - 9/13/2004 2:23:34 PM

Rather fake it - gbaikie - 9/12/2004 1:00:21 PM
- and I'd rather ignore it - Fox - 9/12/2004 3:53:07 PM
  - re: and I'd rather ignore it - gbaikie - 9/12/2004 10:29:24 PM
  - At least as much as forged documents they peddle as real. (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/12/2004 8:44:24 PM
  - Patterns of behavior. Think about it. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/12/2004 8:12:53 PM
    - Anomalists see patterns everywhere, too. Think about it. (n/t) - Robert - 9/12/2004 9:04:28 PM
      - The "Boy who Cried Wolf" comes to mind. NT - REB - 9/13/2004 1:08:49 PM
      - Fine. - Tom Brosz - 9/13/2004 4:52:30 AM

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