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Boston Globe: 'How to Steal an Election' - Larry J - 9/16/2004 9:00:42 PM

Iraq war illegal, says Annan (He must not have checked with our neocons!) - Bowser - 9/15/2004 11:44:58 PM
- Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery! Thanks to all you Kerry Koolaid Kids for such sincerity! ruff!!ruff! - ebnelson - 9/16/2004 12:03:42 AM
  - Eby, I can't flatter you enough. You're just to sharp to let me get away with it. (n/t) - Bowser - 9/16/2004 12:34:18 AM
    - Fox, Todd, watch it...he'll sniff you out next! - Beth - 9/16/2004 2:45:00 AM
      - *grin* - Fox (not Tod(d)) - 9/16/2004 8:56:34 PM
    - So you think I am Eby? I guess not only can you not teach an old new tricks, you can't even teach him how to check url's - ebnelson - 9/16/2004 1:12:06 AM
      - Let It Go - Mark Eby - 9/16/2004 2:30:28 AM
        
        I briefly though Bowser and Lindy were the same person when she said Arf once. - REB - 9/16/2004 12:27:37 PM
      - Tweedle-dum(b), Tweedle-dee. - Bowser - 9/16/2004 2:15:25 AM
        
        But not as dumb as a dog like you - ebnelson - 9/16/2004 12:12:09 PM
- One Of The Points Against The UN Is It's Failure To Enforce It's Security Council Resolutions - Mark Eby - 9/16/2004 12:00:53 AM
  - So we invade Israel, right? - Bowser - 9/16/2004 12:21:20 AM
    - Do You Have Any Idea Of What The Security Council Is? - Mark Eby - 9/16/2004 2:27:20 AM
  - re: Yes well this Administration is again asking for another resultion on Darfor Sudan (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 9/16/2004 12:08:40 AM
    - You have a problem with that? - Tom Brosz - 9/16/2004 12:11:45 AM
      - re: You have a problem with that? - Chris Vancil - 9/16/2004 6:46:07 AM
      - Yeah! - Bowser - 9/16/2004 12:28:24 AM
        
        Fine. - Tom Brosz - 9/16/2004 1:05:44 AM

Jay Leno says, â€œIâ€™m not conservative" - gbaikie - 9/16/2004 6:02:25 AM
- re: Jay Leno - Tom Brosz - 9/16/2004 6:29:21 PM
- Your comments make it obvious that you didn't read the interview. (n/t) - Mary Anne - 9/16/2004 12:22:20 PM
- That's one of the more intelligent conservatives analyses I've seen. - Bowser - 9/16/2004 6:05:59 AM
  - yes sad - gbaikie - 9/16/2004 7:07:39 AM

Kerry not "on topic" - E.P. Grondine - 9/16/2004 5:47:09 PM

The Bush Plan - alcaray - 9/15/2004 9:56:23 PM
- As I pointed out elsewhere... - Tom Brosz - 9/15/2004 10:40:40 PM
  - Noted: Not taxed. The problem: Spent anyway. The irony: Bush stump speech BS that defames Kerry's budget numbers (n/t) - alcaray - 9/16/2004 4:22:18 PM
  - Privatizing Social Security is just another way for Gov't to transfer money from the poor to the wealthy. - Bowser - 9/16/2004 12:33:14 AM
    - You do know what stocks and capital are, right? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/16/2004 1:10:04 AM

"They'll always keep coming back." - Bowser - 9/15/2004 3:36:43 PM
- Quagmire is right - Lindy - 9/15/2004 4:08:34 PM
- Of course they will. We keep letting them go. - Tom Brosz - 9/15/2004 4:03:55 PM
  - Ya oughta read it. - "They've all got cousins, brothers." And if this is WWII, then - - - - Bowser - 9/15/2004 4:12:21 PM
    - Please try and remember... - Tom Brosz - 9/15/2004 4:18:50 PM
      - 1 - THERE IS NO "WINNING". 2 - THE US IS THE ILLEGAL INVADER! - Bowser - 9/15/2004 5:11:26 PM
        
        Okay, try and consider the big picture. - Tom Brosz - 9/15/2004 7:17:09 PM
        
        Tell that to the UN, dear Bowser. (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/15/2004 5:28:27 PM
        
        Saddam was in violation of the UN resolution. - REB - 9/15/2004 5:24:34 PM
        
        You gonna invade everyone in violation of UN resolutions? A resolution which did NOT authorise war? - Bowser - 9/15/2004 5:53:32 PM
        
        Nope, just those ruled by murders who use WMD against their own people ans support terrorism - REB - 9/15/2004 6:05:31 PM
        
        re: Well - Raoul - 9/15/2004 9:01:31 PM
        
        Iraq is a better place without Saddam. No problem with that. - Bowser - 9/15/2004 7:30:01 PM
        
        And so it is a good thing we got rid of him- admit that. - REB - 9/15/2004 8:23:47 PM
        
        You can't do it Bowser, can you. You can't admit it is a good thing that America got rid of Saddam. - REB - 9/16/2004 11:49:59 AM
        
        re: That done, why are the troops still there, then? (n/t) - Raoul - 9/15/2004 9:13:39 PM
        
        Why did we leave troops in your country after we kicked the Germans out? nt - REB - 9/16/2004 11:50:55 AM
        
        re: A few hundred at Chievres, you mean? that was against the iron curtain - Raoul - 9/16/2004 3:44:12 PM
        
        If there is no winning, then John Kerry's solution is__________? (n/t) - Scott Evil - 9/15/2004 5:14:20 PM
        
        Heck, the Kerry Kids haven't a clue, and Kerry sure doesn't either (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/15/2004 6:20:30 PM
        
        Ask Kerry, fer crissake. (n/t) - Bowser - 9/15/2004 5:56:33 PM
        
        Kerry hasn't held a press appearance for a month and a half. - Tom Brosz - 9/15/2004 7:20:53 PM
        
        Ha! Kerry Doesn't even know what he is going to do about Iraq. - REB - 9/15/2004 6:07:18 PM

Bill Burkett is probably the source of the forged memos - Gary - 9/16/2004 4:21:43 AM
- I just learned a couple things - Gary - 9/16/2004 4:35:34 AM
  - I suspected him a few days ago. He has focused his mental disease on hurting the Bush family - ebnelson - 9/16/2004 11:58:12 AM
    - Documents retrieved from trash can during attempted cover up - - E.P. Grondine - 9/16/2004 3:37:46 PM

Global warming and hurricanes frequency. - Lee - 9/15/2004 7:41:52 PM
- Hurricanes have been around long before the President. - REB - 9/16/2004 1:20:38 PM
- re: Global warming and hurricanes frequency. - Fox - 9/16/2004 2:18:18 AM
  - So if the tundra's destroyed, does that mean we can drill for oil? (n/t) - Lee - 9/16/2004 2:40:55 AM
- You must be a stupid Bush supporter to post this data - p - 9/15/2004 10:30:02 PM
  - Dang! I've been busted! (n/t) - Lee - 9/15/2004 11:14:40 PM

60 Minutes should be on on the East Coast... - Tom Brosz - 9/16/2004 12:12:43 AM
- What is CBS trying to pull? - REB - 9/16/2004 12:20:05 PM
- NFW, I have a life (n/t) - p - 9/16/2004 12:19:54 AM
  - For sure. But there might be a surprise... (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/16/2004 12:21:20 AM
    - Heh, heh. Don't bother him, anything contrary to his prejudices is uncomfortable. - Bowser - 9/16/2004 12:24:10 AM
      - We don't feel discomfort... - FrankC - 9/16/2004 1:01:09 AM

The Russian invasion - Raoul - 9/15/2004 8:39:05 PM
- The Ruskie Invasion - Buck Galaxy - 9/16/2004 2:41:45 AM
  - Geez, Buck, I was beginning to think some hurricane had gotten you. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/16/2004 3:45:11 AM

Why the United Nations cannot be put in charge of our security. - Tom Brosz - 9/14/2004 8:03:39 PM
- Israel has about 200 nukes. Get serious. The Right has done all it can to weaken the UN. - Bowser - 9/15/2004 12:13:54 AM
  - P.S. Kahn's interaction with North Korea started in the early 1990s. Now whose "nose" are we talking about? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/15/2004 5:49:54 AM
  - The Right has done all it can to weaken the UN. - Tom Brosz - 9/15/2004 5:46:34 AM
- Why does Iran want nuclear weapons in the first place? - E.P. Grondine - 9/14/2004 9:38:53 PM
  - Oh, I don't know. Maybe to exterminate Israel? - Tom Brosz - 9/14/2004 9:54:07 PM
    - Newt sponsored the Iranian nuclear program - E.P. Grondine - 9/15/2004 3:46:59 AM
    - Who is the only world leader who has threatened to use nukes lately. - Bowser - 9/15/2004 12:17:44 AM
      - North korea (n/t) - R.L. - 9/15/2004 12:59:33 AM
        
        Guess again. - Bowser - 9/15/2004 2:46:08 AM
        
        No, they actually threatened to turn us into a "sea of fire" or words to that effect... (n/t) - R.L. - 9/15/2004 4:31:43 AM
    - re: Retaliation and failure of imagination - Raoul - 9/14/2004 10:19:11 PM
      - re: Retaliation - Tom Brosz - 9/14/2004 11:10:00 PM
        
        Failure of imagination - Raoul - 9/15/2004 5:43:03 AM
        
        Do You Have No Concept Of Probability? - Mark Eby - 9/16/2004 3:13:12 AM
        
        Don't Bother Raoul With Data - Mark Eby - 9/14/2004 11:56:22 PM
        
        re: indeed, I live on another world (n/t) - Raoul - 9/15/2004 5:44:29 AM

Of Course Kerry Is Stupid - Mark Eby - 9/14/2004 2:30:51 AM
- re: Right, sure trying hard to bridge the gap. Please show a current poll where Bush is more than 3 points ahead. Stupid is as stupid does. (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 9/14/2004 8:19:27 AM
  - for the stupid one - phil - 9/14/2004 5:26:33 PM
  - The only poll that matters will be on election day. Kerry will be behind in that one as well. - Scott Evil - 9/14/2004 3:27:45 PM
  - Yes, and you prove it every day - Larry J - 9/14/2004 2:25:57 PM
    - Show Chris some sympathy - Gary - 9/14/2004 3:21:26 PM
  - http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/09/13/poll.tm/index.html (n/t) - Try Looking - 9/14/2004 11:44:21 AM
- OK. Let's found the "Reason" political party here and now. - David F Mayer - 9/14/2004 3:47:41 AM
  - Sounds Good Except For The Name - Mark Eby - 9/15/2004 12:16:31 AM
  - We're incensed at Clinton's lies but not Bush's. There goes "reason". - Bowser - 9/14/2004 5:42:17 AM
    - I dislike the Republican policies towards the environment and taxation. - David F Mayer - 9/14/2004 1:46:16 PM
      - re: Most Republicans would love to find workable solutions to the environmental and other problems. - Scott Evil - 9/14/2004 3:25:25 PM
        
        Most Republicans would love to find workable solutions to the environmental and other problems. Yes, if they did not coost any money. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 9/14/2004 3:46:53 PM
        
        Everything has to be subject to a cost/benefit analysis - Larry J - 9/15/2004 1:46:25 PM
        
        He Said 0 Cost - Mark Eby - 9/16/2004 3:00:27 AM
    - re: Well then why don't the Democrats put up a candidate that doesn't lie? - Scott Evil - 9/14/2004 1:34:32 PM
  - I'm all for reason but .... - Gary - 9/14/2004 4:34:21 AM
    - Remember Niven and The Pak - Mark Eby - 9/15/2004 12:22:19 AM
  - And we think space is really, really cool and we need big rockets. lol (n/t) - Art Martin - 9/14/2004 4:30:42 AM
- re: Of Course Kerry Is Stupid - Art Martin - 9/14/2004 2:53:04 AM
  - A President On A Mission From God Scares Me - Mark Eby - 9/15/2004 12:24:15 AM

South Africa in another couple of decades. - Lee - 9/15/2004 7:02:05 AM
- Ah, socialism. "Eat The Rich" demonstrated. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/15/2004 4:14:49 PM
  - Socialism isn't what I was taking aim at, but whatever. (n/t) - Lee - 9/15/2004 11:17:26 PM
    - re: Socialism is what you should have been aiming at. - Tom Brosz - 9/15/2004 11:51:59 PM
      - But they're not socialist. - Lee - 9/16/2004 2:46:27 AM
- A terrible tragedy - Gary - 9/15/2004 3:58:31 PM

One could almost hope for a Bush win, or why Bush should be elected. - Bowser - 9/16/2004 12:46:20 AM
- Or not - FrankC - 9/16/2004 12:57:50 AM

"...It was an irrational time in his life." - Alan G. Archer - 9/14/2004 11:36:16 PM
- 'bye 'bye john-john. - ebnelson - 9/15/2004 3:07:29 AM
- By golly, the Democrats are actually going to go for it. - Tom Brosz - 9/15/2004 12:14:09 AM
  - Maybe... - Gary - 9/15/2004 2:17:32 AM
    - Apaprently the NYT is taking the high dive for Kerry today. - ebnelson - 9/15/2004 1:49:13 PM
      - Don't you mean... - Alan G. Archer - 9/15/2004 2:30:07 PM
        
        yeah sure, whatever - ebnelson - 9/15/2004 2:48:59 PM
        
        Heathen! - Alan G. Archer - 9/16/2004 12:15:47 AM
        
        re: yeah sure, whatever - Chris Vancil - 9/15/2004 9:23:43 PM

Congressional Hearings - gbaikie - 9/14/2004 11:08:40 PM
- Just watch: The next Forgery released by the John Kerry Campaign will claim that Bush was repremanded for frequently using the "N" word over his jet's radio - Scott Evil - 9/15/2004 2:08:11 PM
  - re: More likely they will be real and about his DWIs and car wreaks. (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 9/16/2004 12:12:48 AM
- Like I said, this is far bigger than Watergate. - Lee - 9/15/2004 2:22:44 AM
  - I don't think so - Gary - 9/15/2004 5:42:11 AM
    - re: I don't think so - gbaikie - 9/15/2004 8:50:44 AM
      - I disagree - Gary - 9/15/2004 3:42:29 PM
  - I meant the Washington Post (n/t) - Lee - 9/15/2004 2:26:33 AM
- Since blatant FRAUD is now well established, the interesting question is - phil - 9/15/2004 1:04:24 AM
- Good grief! It is a CBS fraud, now? (n/t) - alcaray - 9/14/2004 11:34:29 PM
  - Why yes, it is. And it should not investigated. They should jsut suffer the huge crapstorm they have started. (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/15/2004 3:17:17 AM
    - You guys need to look into the definition of fraud - alcaray - 9/15/2004 3:19:36 PM
      - In court of law, "Gross Negligence" is equivelent to "Fraud" - Scott Evil - 9/15/2004 5:42:51 PM
        
        go that way if you want, let's see this evidence. (n/t) - alcaray - 9/15/2004 9:30:47 PM
      - The definition of 'is' is the last refuge of a guilty democrat. (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/15/2004 5:42:05 PM
        
        Whereas wild-ass claims seem to come from Republicans (n/t) - alcaray - 9/15/2004 9:29:47 PM
  - CBS Stands By The Info - Nough Said - Mark Eby - 9/14/2004 11:44:38 PM
    - I get it!!!! Eby = eb. How clever. Someone must have done of for you. (n/t) - Bowser - 9/15/2004 12:18:55 AM
      - Perhaps instead of just licking your own ass, you have your head stuck up your butt - ebnelson - 9/15/2004 3:35:10 AM
      - re: I get it!!!! Eby = eb. How clever. Someone must have done of for you. - gbaikie - 9/15/2004 1:50:24 AM
      - No, You're Not (n/t) - Mark Eby - 9/15/2004 12:26:55 AM
        
        And, remembering logic eb - Eby!!! It was always there, right in front of us, in more ways than one. (n/t) - Bowser - 9/15/2004 12:45:24 AM

Kitty Kelly Is A Goofball - Mark Eby - 9/15/2004 2:42:51 AM
- re: Kitty Kelly's books belong in the same section as Hoagland's... - REB - 9/15/2004 2:45:52 PM
- I heard she is going to be the new Executive Producer for CBS (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/15/2004 3:32:04 AM
  - re: No she is going to start a blog. (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 9/15/2004 10:32:28 AM
    - Yes, she can fit in with ufool crowd and DU very well. - ebnelson - 9/15/2004 1:44:28 PM
      - re: So you and your fellows plan on visiting her site. (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 9/16/2004 12:11:11 AM
- uhh, Mark - E.P. Grondine - 9/15/2004 3:13:09 AM
  - Descent into delusion - Tom Brosz - 9/15/2004 5:36:05 AM

"Iraq: Signs of desperation" - Bush has gotten us into something we can't "win", we can't get out of. - Bowser - 9/15/2004 11:58:04 PM

Rescued, at last! - Raoul - 9/15/2004 9:08:50 PM
- hmm, wonder if the conversation...... - Art Martin - 9/15/2004 11:27:56 PM

Another Killian memo - Tom Brosz - 9/15/2004 11:13:32 PM

CBS rumored to make Rathergate memo announcement at noon today - phil - 9/15/2004 3:27:31 PM
- CBS is delayed in their announcement - ebnelson - 9/15/2004 6:18:59 PM
  - Cold Feet? CBS Lawyers Panicking? Dan Rather holding CBS president hostage? nt - REB - 9/15/2004 6:59:48 PM
- Can you imagine a legal team making the CBS case in Court? - ebnelson - 9/15/2004 5:27:29 PM
- old news - Art Martin - 9/15/2004 5:19:53 PM
  - Had a Republican released forged documents to try and bring down a Democrat President... - REB - 9/15/2004 6:20:55 PM
  - re: Your right... lets talk about Kerry's Agenda (Sound of crickets chirping) (n/t) - Scott Evil - 9/15/2004 5:21:43 PM
- Makes no difference. Bush was AWOL, this is about just HOW AWOL. - Bowser - 9/15/2004 5:14:07 PM
  - Dogs do seem to like their own vomit. - ebnelson - 9/15/2004 7:05:41 PM
  - re: So was John Kerry...In fact, Kerry still is AWOL...Never reported for Inactive reserve duty...Why? (n/t) - Scott Evil - 9/15/2004 5:15:52 PM
    - Inactive Reserve is just that, inactive - Larry J - 9/15/2004 9:45:25 PM
- re: Why would his commanding officer keep refering to him as "Lt. President Bush"? (n/t) - Scott Evil - 9/15/2004 5:08:03 PM
- re: CBS rumored to make Rathergate memo announcement at noon today - gbaikie - 9/15/2004 4:31:26 PM
- Well, Phil?...Do you still C...BS? ;-) - Jacob Samorodin - 9/15/2004 4:28:49 PM

The Big Question: "Are you safer now than you were four years ago?" - Chris Vancil - 9/15/2004 9:23:29 AM
- Personally, I never felt in any more danger. - Art Martin - 9/15/2004 5:26:52 PM
- I don't know. How are you measuring "safe?" - Tom Brosz - 9/15/2004 3:56:11 PM
- Definitely YES! Is the Pope Polish? (n/t) - Gary - 9/15/2004 3:48:50 PM
  - re: So nukes inthe hands of terrorist fine by you all? And that makes us safer how? (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 9/15/2004 9:25:43 PM
- re: yes. I remember thinking that we escaped Clinton without to much damage to the US. (n/t) - Scott Evil - 9/15/2004 1:58:37 PM
- Yes, we are. (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/15/2004 1:38:56 PM
- Yes! - REB - 9/15/2004 1:03:03 PM
- re: The Big Question: "Are you safer now than you were four years ago?" - gbaikie - 9/15/2004 12:49:04 PM
  - Gore makes Howard Dean look calm and reasoned. Thank God he wasn't elected President. (n/t) - Scott Evil - 9/15/2004 1:59:39 PM

The nail in the coffin of CBS: Killian's secretary says they are forgeries, and she hates W - ebnelson - 9/14/2004 10:36:29 PM
- she said they accurately reflect the viewpoints of Lt. Col. Killian and documents that would have been in the personal file. - Chris Vancil - 9/14/2004 10:46:36 PM
  - re: Since even you agree that these are frauds now...Why won't Dan Rather admit it? - Scott Evil - 9/15/2004 1:36:43 PM
    - re: You are truly grasping at straw! Maybe they are not faked. If you don't accept her statemnets on content why accept her views on other details? (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 9/15/2004 9:16:56 PM
  - No, the docs are total frauds, and CBS had to have known it at the time. - ebnelson - 9/15/2004 3:06:13 AM
    - re: Not the point the contents are correct! Who care whether it had kerning... (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 9/15/2004 9:29:37 AM
      - If an old woman is more credible than 250 vets in your mind, you are pitiful. (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/15/2004 1:45:47 PM
        
        re: Exactly how many vets? Your evidence they all are vets is? All are swift boats vets? They all exist? I've answer this point and you also grasp at straw. (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 9/15/2004 9:20:30 PM
  - Then The Swift Boat Veterans Claims Are True Too - Mark Eby - 9/14/2004 11:37:44 PM
    - Unfortunately for Kerry, the SBVs have a LOT more for them than the DNC total idiocy over TANG. - ebnelson - 9/15/2004 3:18:48 AM
    - re:More thoughts on the differences... - Chris Vancil - 9/15/2004 12:12:24 AM
      - You Left Out Official Records Dispute Kerry's Claims & - Mark Eby - 9/15/2004 12:38:20 AM
        
        re: Sure be selective of memory and play into the hands of the RNC - Chris Vancil - 9/15/2004 9:04:47 AM
    - re: Then The Swift Boat Veterans Claims Are True Too - Chris Vancil - 9/14/2004 11:43:44 PM
      - What were here motives to lie?? - Tom Brosz - 9/15/2004 12:22:21 AM
        
        re: What were her motives to lie?? - Chris Vancil - 9/15/2004 8:34:02 AM
      - Strawman - Mark Eby - 9/14/2004 11:52:26 PM
        
        re: Strawman - Chris Vancil - 9/15/2004 12:13:51 AM
- And she said: â€œThe information (talking of the forged docs) in here was correct, but it was picked up from the real ones,â€ she said. (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 9/14/2004 10:43:17 PM
  - Give it up, Chris. It's getting pathetic now. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/14/2004 11:12:57 PM
    - re: Sorry but if the content of the memos are correct then "pathetic" belongs on you. (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 9/14/2004 11:45:50 PM
      - Chris, snap out of it! (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/15/2004 3:19:34 AM
        
        re: Thanks for supplying the info, Ed! (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 9/15/2004 10:40:21 AM
        
        Chris, someone needs to slap some sense into you. - ebnelson - 9/15/2004 3:00:19 PM
        
        re: Anyone, who thinks, could come up with reasons why CBS is not culpable for this...note the RNC types think memos came from the DNC and the DNC types think it came from the RNC...both actual reaso… (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 9/15/2004 9:13:42 PM
      - I'm sorry, your argument has gone utterly bankrupt. - Tom Brosz - 9/15/2004 12:25:45 AM
        
        re: Straw like men... - Chris Vancil - 9/15/2004 10:38:42 AM
        
        Moonbats' Eyes Wide Shut - phil - 9/15/2004 12:59:19 AM
        
        re: Moonbats' Eyes Wide Shut - Chris Vancil - 9/15/2004 10:44:02 AM
        
        re: Moonbats' Eyes Wide Shut - phil - 9/15/2004 1:41:35 PM

What CBS has to say. - Bowser - 9/15/2004 7:45:05 PM
- What CBS says: "Just becasue we lied about the docs, our issues are too important to ignore" - ebnelson - 9/15/2004 8:59:06 PM
- Funny, I didn't know that the New York Times, LA Times, ... - Larry J - 9/15/2004 8:36:49 PM
  - Bowser can't help it, it is all those fumes he keeps licking up. (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/15/2004 9:19:29 PM
- They keep putting off their statement. New time: 5:00 Eastern. - Tom Brosz - 9/15/2004 8:02:01 PM
- Don't think this is the BIG announcement. (n/t) - Bowser - 9/15/2004 7:56:47 PM
  - Maybe. But why keep delaying it if they aren't still trying to come up with a plausible story? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/15/2004 8:04:54 PM

While Kerry was AWOL in the USNR - ebnelson - 9/15/2004 9:18:35 PM

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