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Just now breaking news: Riacin found in Washington D.C. - ebnelson - 2/3/2004 4:29:27 AM
- Waiting to see what happens. - Tom Brosz - 2/3/2004 5:31:41 PM
- What is Ricin? Click for answer. - David F Mayer - 2/3/2004 2:17:14 PM
- From CNN: It is spelled "Ricin" of course - ebnelson - 2/3/2004 4:33:37 AM

"the Iraq Survey Group had uncovered "a lot of evidence" of illegal weapons programs." - REB - 2/3/2004 1:25:35 PM
- Wow, how many megatons in a "lot" (n/t) - Greg - 2/3/2004 2:37:13 PM
  - With WMD, size doesn't always matter - REB - 2/3/2004 2:50:19 PM
    - Oh, which WMD's exactly was he trying to develop? (n/t) - Greg - 2/3/2004 3:13:22 PM
      - Can we say Biological Warfare Agents (nt) - REB - 2/3/2004 3:43:25 PM

"What we have here is a serious intelligence failure, but one that in itself would almost certainly not have led to war, at least not on the grounds of there being an imminent threat to the United St… - Greg - 2/1/2004 3:58:39 AM
- Kay? "How would he know?" - Tom Brosz - 2/1/2004 5:00:28 AM
  - What would Kay know? - Greg - 2/3/2004 3:09:47 PM
  - In the UK, the same basic intel, with even stronger claims and conclusions than in the US, - ebnelson - 2/1/2004 3:28:01 PM
  - It does not compute - S - 2/1/2004 6:13:21 AM

"No terrorist state poses a greater or more immediate threat to the security of our people and the stability of the world than the regime of Saddam Hussein in Iraq." - Bush - Greg - 1/30/2004 6:13:08 AM
- Sounds like he got it right. Too bad you liked the status quo (n/t) - ebnelson - 1/31/2004 1:17:49 AM
  - If you think Iraq was the most dangerous place in the world last year you should be running for President of Wackjob Land. (n/t) - Greg - 1/31/2004 3:28:40 PM
    - re: Of course it wasn't . . . - D. Spires - 2/2/2004 11:34:03 AM
      - so you agree that what Bush said wasn't true. btw who did Saddam sell weapons to? (n/t) - Greg - 2/2/2004 3:08:22 PM
        
        re: What I stated was exactly what the president stated . . . - D. Spires - 2/3/2004 7:54:00 AM
    - Close enough, convenient enough, and now saddm & co. is 0 threat - ebnelson - 1/31/2004 9:46:33 PM

Extreme evil reported in North Korea - Gary - 2/1/2004 1:19:56 AM
- The whole country is a concetration camp! - Justin Kelly - 2/1/2004 8:58:21 AM
  - Military action in Korea - Gary - 2/2/2004 12:41:17 AM
  - It is my fervent hope that the North Korean people will somehow depose the current murderous regime. But I don't bet on it. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 2/1/2004 9:02:26 PM
- The lucious irony - ebnelson - 2/1/2004 6:38:05 AM
- You wrote: "The UN needs to consider military action against North Korea or it will be condemed by history." You have such a great sense of humor. How can an organization of tyrannies be expected to… - David F Mayer - 2/1/2004 5:02:55 AM
- You wrote: "The UN needs to consider military action against North Korea or it will be condemed by history." You have such a great sense of humor. How can an organization of tyrannies be expected to… - David F Mayer - 2/1/2004 5:02:40 AM
- P.S. I agree that North Korea needs to be taken down. - Tom Brosz - 2/1/2004 1:48:10 AM
- The U.N.? - Tom Brosz - 2/1/2004 1:46:43 AM
  - Bonus Points Answer: The Korean War. You may have heard of it. - Odin - 2/2/2004 7:51:14 AM
  - History's judgement - Gary - 2/1/2004 3:51:10 AM
    - re: History's judgement - Odin - 2/3/2004 6:04:28 AM
    - As advertised on TV - S - 2/1/2004 5:17:32 AM
      - they're eating thier own children for ****'s sake! - Justin Kelly - 2/1/2004 7:34:43 AM
        
        Possibly - S - 2/1/2004 9:57:46 PM
      - So, there it is... - Tom Brosz - 2/1/2004 5:48:37 AM

Political situation in Iran ready to explode - David F Mayer - 2/3/2004 2:43:14 AM
- Political situation in Iraq also explosive - Odin - 2/3/2004 5:01:54 AM

The US economy gains sustainable momentum - ebnelson - 2/2/2004 7:10:19 PM
- The Job Situation STILL Stinks. The "new jobs" referred to do not replace those that have been lost. The employment situation is still very bleak. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 2/3/2004 12:03:14 AM

Sharon wants to clear Jews out of Gaza - Tom Brosz - 2/2/2004 6:12:16 PM
- Sharon is a friend of some friends of mine who dine with him while in Israel. Sharon is, above all, a realist. No professional military officer can fail to understand the total indefensibilty of thes… - David F Mayer - 2/2/2004 10:59:19 PM

56 dead in suicide bombings in Iraq - Tom Brosz - 2/1/2004 8:38:14 PM
- You do not appreciate the depth of the Sunni-Shi'ite schism. - David F Mayer - 2/1/2004 8:59:25 PM
  - The Sunnis should be sent a clear message. - Lee - 2/2/2004 1:58:22 AM
    - Impractical, destructive and wrong. - Mary Anne - 2/2/2004 1:48:33 PM
      - Practical, constructive and right. - Lee - 2/2/2004 7:30:39 PM
    - Who died and made you God? - Disgusted in Des Moines - 2/2/2004 3:20:46 AM
      - re: Who died and made you God? - Tom Brosz - 2/2/2004 4:23:25 AM
        
        You are hopeless Tom......... - Lindy - 2/2/2004 5:03:08 AM
        
        re: hopeless - Tom Brosz - 2/2/2004 5:44:25 AM
  - This was ethnic, not religious. - Mary Anne - 2/2/2004 1:07:59 AM
    - re: This was ethnic, not religious. - Tom Brosz - 2/2/2004 2:19:51 AM
  - It's probably more cynical - Gary - 2/2/2004 12:58:57 AM

Sharon wants to clear Jews out of Gaza - Tom - 2/2/2004 6:12:06 PM
- Oops...haven't done a hiccup like that in a while. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 2/2/2004 6:14:46 PM

Iraq bribed nations that obstructed Saddam's removal from power. - Tom Brosz - 2/2/2004 5:58:31 PM

Loyalty oaths in South Carolina - Tom Brosz - 2/2/2004 5:36:49 PM

Caller Claims to Be Ohio Highway Sniper . . . - D. Spires - 1/31/2004 9:41:09 AM
- I hope that is resolved quickly. 911 dispatchers seem to get cynical about stuff - ebnelson - 1/31/2004 1:06:30 PM
  - About 99.9% of such calls are hoaxes. Let us hope that this bastard is caught. Then the leftists will come up with some reasons not to put him to death. They will need to think hard on this one. I ca… (n/t) - David F Mayer - 2/2/2004 2:22:20 PM

Further evidencce supporting my theory (from before the war) on why we invaded Iraq - Justin Kelly - 2/1/2004 9:42:44 AM
- Blasphemy - and the blaspheming blasphemers who blaspheme - It's an outrage. - 2/2/2004 2:29:02 AM
- re: Further evidence supporting my theory (from before the war) on why we invaded Iraq - phil - 2/1/2004 2:49:33 PM
  - re: Further evidence supporting my theory (from before the war) on why we invaded Iraq - gbaikie - 2/2/2004 7:44:49 AM
  - Amazing, that the Bush people are such geniuses at social engineering in Saudi, yet can't fix the United States. - Mary Anne - 2/1/2004 3:57:43 PM

Mankind, all but Lost - SDAI-Tech1 - 1/31/2004 6:25:40 PM
- And the ignorant shall lead them - Odin - 2/2/2004 7:11:27 AM
- True image - Mary Anne - 2/1/2004 1:40:32 PM
- Whoa. Sounds like you're nursing the same cold I am. (mutter, grumble, sneeze, bitch) (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 1/31/2004 8:18:42 PM
  - Actually... - SDAI-Tech1 - 2/1/2004 1:04:47 AM
  - When I blow my nose, my rotten kids yell out, "Boromir's in trouble!" (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 1/31/2004 11:41:51 PM

They are accused of having received millions of barrels of oil in exchange for their support of the Iraqi regime. - Lindy - 2/2/2004 3:07:42 AM
- How about having that in English? - Lindy - 2/2/2004 3:10:34 AM

Krauthammer on Iraq - Tom Brosz - 2/1/2004 6:47:54 AM
- re: the Bluff - Raoul - 2/1/2004 4:09:42 PM
  - re: the Bluff - Tom Brosz - 2/1/2004 10:25:33 PM
- Another great peice by Charles K. - McFly - 2/1/2004 3:07:00 PM
  - clinton Kerry and the rest of the dims shredding our intel in the 90's - ebnelson - 2/1/2004 3:25:50 PM
    - Naturally. There were no Republicans in office anywhere in America in the 1990s. - Mary Anne - 2/1/2004 4:06:41 PM
      - Just not in the Executive Branch - ebnelson - 2/1/2004 5:41:22 PM
        
        Talking point: Kerry is the front-runner, so everything that went wrong during his lifetime is now all about Kerry. - Mary Anne - 2/1/2004 6:16:18 PM
        
        Bush is the President and so everything that goes wrong is his fault - ebnelson - 2/1/2004 6:36:32 PM
        
        How refreshing of you to say so. - Mary Anne - 2/1/2004 7:34:53 PM
        
        How nice that as long as Republicans let dimohacks control the agenda, democrats are happy - ebnelson - 2/1/2004 10:47:59 PM

Some budget advice from a former congressman - Tom Brosz - 2/1/2004 10:44:33 PM

Then the Bush people come in. And in two and a half years they trash the place. They trash the place deliberately. They trash the place casually. They trash the place gleefully. - Greg - 1/29/2004 2:30:07 AM
- Thank goodness. The Clinton and Leftist Policies Had Made the USA a Farce. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 2/1/2004 7:28:16 PM
- Clinton policies - Tom Brosz - 1/29/2004 3:26:43 AM
  - re: Clinton policies - Greg - 1/29/2004 4:56:41 AM
    - You got nothing, right? - Tom Brosz - 1/29/2004 5:41:09 AM
      - you seem to miss the point yet again - Greg - 1/29/2004 6:30:26 AM
        
        re: missing the point - Tom Brosz - 1/29/2004 7:19:46 AM
        
        re: missing the point - Davin L. - 1/29/2004 3:46:58 PM
        
        The balanced budget - FrankC - 1/29/2004 11:12:59 PM
        
        re: The balanced budget - Davin L. - 1/30/2004 2:22:16 AM
        
        So, you must think... - FrankC - 1/30/2004 5:25:57 AM
        
        Uh...I hate to point this out, Frank, but... - Tom Brosz - 1/30/2004 7:14:53 PM
        
        Bless those "blue dog" democrats :) (n/t) - FrankC - 1/30/2004 9:15:06 PM
        
        Oh C'mon Frank, don't try that preschool tac with me. - Davin L. - 1/30/2004 6:09:29 AM
        
        Maxspeak again - Greg - 1/29/2004 1:14:38 PM
        
        which countries have they "screwed up like the Black plague" - Greg - 1/29/2004 12:54:06 PM
      - re: You got nothing, right? - Greg - 1/29/2004 6:18:03 AM
- Just wondering Greg, what economic stimulus package would you suggest- that wouldn't raise the deficit? - RobVG - 1/29/2004 3:18:27 AM
  - an economic stimulus approved by mainstream economists, not one that horrified the whole profession like Bush used - Greg - 1/29/2004 4:52:54 AM
    - You're skirting the question Greg. - RobVG - 1/30/2004 1:14:44 AM
      - the same old fallacy - Greg - 1/31/2004 1:56:44 PM
        
        re: the same old fallacy - Tom Brosz - 2/1/2004 6:18:44 AM
    - re: idiots in denial - Tom Brosz - 1/29/2004 5:44:43 AM
      - they should be by now but they aren't - Greg - 1/29/2004 6:15:00 AM
        
        Okay, let's see if I have this right... - Tom Brosz - 1/29/2004 7:10:30 AM
        
        You must be Cheney, posting from the undisclosed location - Greg - 1/29/2004 12:56:42 PM
  - The usual solution: cutting the taxes of, and increasing the subsidies to, hardcore Democratic voters. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 1/29/2004 3:28:08 AM
- Thanks. I hadn't heard any clintonista rewrites of history in a day or so. (n/t) - ebnelson - 1/29/2004 3:14:55 AM

Castro Says Bush Plotting to Kill Him . . . - D. Spires - 1/31/2004 9:25:11 AM
- I certainly hope so. It should not be too difficult with the USA's current technical superiority. My plan is something like this: - David F Mayer - 2/1/2004 5:33:57 AM
- re: Castro Says Bush Plotting to Kill Him . . . - Tom Brosz - 1/31/2004 8:36:49 PM

U.S. Military Sure of Catching Bin Laden . . . - D. Spires - 1/31/2004 9:53:21 AM
- I will believe that we will catch Osama Bin Laden AFTER we have captured him, not before. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 2/1/2004 5:29:24 AM

Economic Growth Remained Strong in the Fourth Quarter - Greg - 1/31/2004 4:08:09 PM
- Still no large increase in employment. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 2/1/2004 5:04:19 AM
- Is the Recovery Fading Already? - Greg - 1/31/2004 4:35:41 PM
  - Nope, just sustainable - ebnelson - 1/31/2004 10:39:00 PM

New Iraq Agency to Hunt Rebels . . . - D. Spires - 1/31/2004 12:55:02 PM
- They need to go to the source - Gary - 2/1/2004 4:15:23 AM
- Information is... e v e r y t h i n g. (n/t) - SDAI-Tech1 - 1/31/2004 11:12:44 PM

WhereÂ´s the Apology? - Nick - 1/31/2004 4:18:41 PM
- If Saddam didn't even know the true capability of his WMD programs, how were we?!? - Lee - 2/1/2004 1:24:34 AM
- So this is how the NYT ignores the vindication of Tony Blair? - ebnelson - 1/31/2004 9:43:22 PM
- Politicized intelligence - Tom Brosz - 1/31/2004 8:26:06 PM
- Meanwhile: Three More Americans Die In Iraq - Donald - 1/31/2004 4:42:23 PM

Two leftists walk into a bar... - Tom Brosz - 1/29/2004 7:53:10 PM
- To be renamed: "An extremist and a moderate walk into a bar..." - Mary Anne - 1/30/2004 5:49:20 PM
  - A lot depends on who's writing the definitions. - Tom Brosz - 1/30/2004 7:08:51 PM
- Wrong board Tom, take this inflammatory political BS to Off Topic - Lindy - 1/30/2004 4:58:50 PM
  - re: Lindy . . . - D. Spires - 1/31/2004 7:11:16 AM
  - You didn't catch that the author is a liberal... - FrankC - 1/30/2004 6:26:45 PM
    - Me, silly? - Lindy - 1/30/2004 8:11:22 PM
      - Just forget it. - Tom Brosz - 1/30/2004 8:14:14 PM
        
        No pork chops for you - Lindy - 1/30/2004 8:21:38 PM
  - I you have complaints, take them to the author. I didn't write this. - Tom Brosz - 1/30/2004 5:16:36 PM
    - My complaint was with your inflammatory title and that this should have been on Off Topic (n/t) - Doesn't anyone agree with me? - 1/30/2004 8:14:46 PM
      - No. The topic is the left's opposition to a current event . (n/t) - Odin - 1/30/2004 9:42:53 PM
- Thumper is a rabbit, which explains his harebrained blather . . . - Odin - 1/30/2004 6:03:39 AM
  - Paul Berman is well published - Gary - 1/30/2004 4:46:09 PM
    - So are Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly and Ann Coulter . . . - Odin - 1/30/2004 9:20:45 PM
      - re: The left believes . . . - D. Spires - 1/31/2004 7:05:23 AM
        
        That was more than 1.5 cents Dan....;-) - SDAI-Tech1 - 2/1/2004 12:16:53 AM
  - re: X^D . . . - D. Spires - 1/30/2004 8:45:45 AM
- Man! that is beautiful. (n/t) - FrankC - 1/30/2004 5:34:24 AM
- Leftist intellectuals can be amazing - Gary - 1/30/2004 5:29:09 AM
  - re: Leftist intellectuals can be amazing - Tom Brosz - 1/30/2004 4:39:34 PM

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