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Where do you come up with this stuff?

Like Iraq. OT isn't the place to once again argue the merits of Bush's war. What's relevant here is the undeniable fact that the Bush Administration expected simplicity in Iraq, and to our sorrow, it found complexity. Life would have been so simple if the Iraqis really had cheered for joy and tossed flowers at our troops, but in real life it was never destined to be.


I don't think that's the case at all. I think they expected complexity but in order to appeal to the lowest common denominator paint a picture of simplicity. They talk of freedom and of danger. They are pragmatists who realize the limitations of a vast majority of the populace.

To speculate a bit further, it seems as though Conservatives are vaguely offended at the complexity of life, and take it as a sign that something's wrong. If the world could be fixed, it would, no doubt, be a simpler place, with a strong resemblance to the world of Ward and June Cleaver, where everything is black-and-white and everybody knows their place and all questions of morality and right and wrong are settled and eternal, and of course nobody questions Authority.


This quote reminds me of that awful Don Knotts/Reese Ritherspoon/Tobey Maguire flick, Pleasantville - the screenplay of which was obviously written by someone with your leftist political persuasion and a two dimensional view of conservative thought.

This film is a must see, even for conservatives, if just to see the farce of the liberal worldview - A world where female orgasm is tantamount to achieving "color" while sexual inexperience, authority, male domination is associated with "black & white". A world where "Father knows best" is a dark evil place, where all women are absolutely frigid and merely cook meals for men.

Such an asinine assumption comes from revisionist history - a history by someone who clearly didn't know half of the things I posted here.

Ward Cleaver and his family are viewed as something akin to ultra-conservatives by uneducated liberals, who didn't know suburbanites WERE the liberals of the fifties! They were the brave new worlders who lived in a vague cookie cutter community trying to be more social than the city dwellers who had a defined order to their lives. Yes Leave it to Beaver, Father Knows Best, My Three Sons were LIBERAL shows - all taking on uncharted territory and paving the way for teen sex, defiance of authority and the abandoning of convention!

The Ike era was a LIBERAL extravaganza! It already started after the war as the loose soldiers returned with a broader world view. The period from 1935-1945 was far more conservative than the period of 1945-1959!

But go ahead in your stereotypes and Pleasantville analogies - it's good for a smile and a shake of the head.

;-)

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