re: Subjective!

REB — 6/15/2007 1:26:56 PM (archived)

Not really.

If his goal is beings created independent of him (Which is what I believe) then it makes perfect sense. He wants creatures that can think for themselves. He doesnâ€™t want little clones of him that do everything the way he does.

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And yet, the Bible remains so popular in the US! - Raoul - 6/11/2007 9:40:56 PM
- FYI - Jody - 6/17/2007 2:50:31 PM
  - Quotes - Raoul - 6/17/2007 9:51:23 PM
    - Hawking - azstrummer - 6/22/2007 3:45:10 PM
      - re: Hawking - Marcia - 6/23/2007 1:52:21 AM
    - certainty is absurd - Voltaire - FrankC - 6/20/2007 7:27:12 PM
      - re: certainties - Raoul - 6/20/2007 8:05:19 PM
    - Wonderful - Fox - 6/20/2007 1:01:37 AM
      - re: Wonderful - Marcia - 6/23/2007 1:55:42 AM
        
        re: Wonderful... although... - Marcia - 6/23/2007 1:58:49 AM
- You are wrong, and ignorant - Daniel - 6/15/2007 12:00:14 AM
  - By the way, Deuteronomy commands you to stone Raoul to death - ARRELL - 6/21/2007 2:05:18 AM
    - Jesus was against stoning. - REB - 6/22/2007 2:09:16 PM
      - Hear! Hear! - Eri - 6/23/2007 5:19:49 PM
      - But the bible isnt (n/t) - ARRELL - 6/22/2007 11:32:14 PM
        
        re: But the bible isnt. New Testament. (n/t) - Marcia - 6/23/2007 2:00:10 AM
      - You just think so. - azstrummer - 6/22/2007 4:48:46 PM
    - re: stone Raoul to death - TB - 6/21/2007 7:28:23 PM
      - ROTFLMAO (n/t) - Jody - 6/21/2007 9:59:50 PM
    - Wrong again! - Daniel - 6/21/2007 8:48:05 AM
      - Here is what it boils down to... - ARRELL - 6/22/2007 12:42:06 AM
    - re:I supposeâ€¦â€¦â€¦ - Johannes - 6/21/2007 2:42:01 AM
      - You're a bit slow, aren't you? (n/t) - ARRELL - 6/21/2007 5:50:01 AM
        
        re: And you must be too f ass t (n/t) - Johannes - 6/21/2007 5:24:07 PM
        
        re: Oops !! A typing speed bump (n/t) - Johannes - 6/21/2007 5:51:16 PM
      - He was in Israel. I saw the pictures. - alcaray - 6/21/2007 3:04:18 AM
        
        In 1979! (n/t) - Raoul - 6/21/2007 5:25:25 AM
        
        re:Are you the one without sin? - Johannes - 6/21/2007 3:48:06 AM
        
        Not without sin, but I have a distended sense of fun. (n/t) - alcaray - 6/21/2007 5:38:51 AM
        
        re: Unfortunatelly we can not stone Raoul then ;-) (n/t) - Johannes - 6/21/2007 5:09:12 PM
        
        I don't mind sinning a little more, if there's fun in it. - alcaray - 6/21/2007 9:43:57 PM
        
        I'm kind of far away! :-) (n/t) - Raoul - 6/21/2007 5:16:03 PM
        
        AH, but the truly faithful would pay to fly over to stone you - ARRELL - 6/21/2007 7:58:10 PM
        
        Let's just ALL get stoned and pretend we can fly.:) (n/t) - Jody "Hey Man am I drivin' okay? - 6/21/2007 10:03:16 PM
        
        "But I would not feel so all alone..." (n/t) - Fox - 6/24/2007 3:22:25 PM
  - Oh, and this is a great quote: - ARRELL - 6/21/2007 12:58:14 AM
    - re: Venereal Disease - Johannes - 6/21/2007 3:57:04 AM
  - " Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)" (n/t) - ARRELL - 6/21/2007 12:50:48 AM
  - "All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)" - ARRELL - 6/21/2007 12:41:56 AM
  - "It ain't the parts of the Bible that I can't understand that bother me, it is the parts that I do understand. "- Mark Twain - ARRELL - 6/20/2007 9:22:56 PM
  - Daniel, he is not wrong, (I am not looking for a fight) - ARRELL - 6/19/2007 9:19:36 PM
  - All this shows.... - Raoul - 6/15/2007 5:47:41 AM
    - It is a philosophical, not religious, question - FrankC - 6/17/2007 9:28:37 PM
      - re: It is a philosophical, not religious, question - Raoul - 6/18/2007 2:31:13 PM
      - re: It is a philosophical, not religious, question - REB - 6/18/2007 1:56:40 PM
    - The "significance" (or otherwise) of humans is irrelevant - Daniel - 6/17/2007 2:00:04 PM
      - re: The "significance" refers to "narcissism" - Raoul - 6/17/2007 4:15:11 PM
        
        not necessarily - Daniel - 6/17/2007 5:10:17 PM
        
        Our significance is related to our faiths - Raoul - 6/17/2007 9:06:41 PM
    - re: All this shows.... - Johannes - 6/16/2007 12:29:01 AM
      - oh come on now - azstrummer - 6/22/2007 3:21:26 PM
        
        re:This is the best place to find out how the mind works. - Johannes - 6/22/2007 7:07:43 PM
        
        "Scale" of our intelligence - azstrummer - 6/22/2007 7:33:12 PM
        
        re: I did not say that you did not have the intelligence. - Johannes - 6/23/2007 1:35:03 AM
      - LOL - you didnt DERIVE anything - ARRELL - 6/20/2007 10:47:47 PM
        
        re: Poor ARRELL cant figure out simple mathematical formula. (n/t) - Johannes - 6/21/2007 2:53:01 AM
        
        Start another thread- stop hijacking this one with your insane drivel.... (n/t) - ARRELL - 6/21/2007 5:44:13 AM
        
        re: I enjoy debating my views, it gives me an understanding of how others think. (n/t) - Johannes - 6/21/2007 5:47:31 PM
        
        Start another thread, you are just vandalizing this one (n/t) - ARRELL - 6/23/2007 12:09:06 AM
      - re: All this shows.... - McFly - 6/20/2007 6:03:52 PM
        
        re: re:.Please read - Johannes - 6/21/2007 4:11:35 AM
        
        Done - McFly - 6/21/2007 6:29:43 AM
        
        re: I am saying that God created Space, Mass and Energy. - Johannes - 6/21/2007 5:42:58 PM
        
        Ugh - McFly - 6/21/2007 8:55:53 PM
        
        re: Ugh - Johannes - 6/22/2007 3:49:42 AM
        
        OK...calming down... - McFly - 6/22/2007 8:09:01 PM
        
        re:Thatâ€™s why the flame board is here, no harm done :-} - Johannes - 6/23/2007 2:02:42 AM
        
        No calming down allowed in Flame. Flog yourself. (n/t) - azstrummer - 6/22/2007 9:18:16 PM
        
        I am sorry, Johannes.... - ARRELL - 6/21/2007 8:02:17 PM
        
        re: Certainly - Johannes - 6/22/2007 3:58:05 AM
        
        :) AMEN - ARRELL - 6/21/2007 6:38:13 AM
      - "Are we simply robots......." - Lindy - 6/20/2007 3:53:51 PM
        
        What is a robot, what is consciouness? - Raoul - 6/20/2007 4:20:37 PM
      - Science without religion.... - Raoul - 6/16/2007 8:52:18 AM
        
        Science should only be influenced by science... - ARRELL - 6/21/2007 6:15:44 AM
        
        re: Fact #1: The Bible contains the words, heaven, earth, and light, - Johannes - 6/21/2007 7:18:20 PM
        
        So does the dictionary, shut up or start another thread (n/t) - ARRELL - 6/21/2007 7:52:11 PM
        
        re: Where are the factual and conceptual errors? (n/t) - Johannes - 6/22/2007 4:01:07 AM
        
        At every point where you finished a sentence - R.L. - 6/22/2007 4:13:58 AM
        
        re: You are obviously an advocate of book burning. - Johannes - 6/22/2007 7:14:17 PM
        
        I honestly do not see how that follows.... - ARRELL (Starting to get REALLY angry) - 6/22/2007 11:51:51 PM
        
        re: Was the Bible in your parents library and did you read it? - Johannes - 6/23/2007 5:20:52 PM
    - re: All this shows.... - Marcia - 6/15/2007 9:52:34 PM
      - Our place in the universe.... - Raoul - 6/16/2007 8:39:05 AM
  - re: You are wrong, and ignorant - Marcia - 6/15/2007 4:08:24 AM
    - Religion should not be exempted from criticism - Raoul - 6/17/2007 8:56:49 PM
    - You're welcome - Daniel - 6/17/2007 2:05:03 PM
    - re: = ... and I agree with REB! (n/t) - Marcia - 6/15/2007 4:13:16 AM
- re: Interesting - Johannes - 6/14/2007 2:32:19 AM
  - re: Mass mess ?? - Johannes - 6/15/2007 4:30:03 AM
  - re: Addendum - Johannes - 6/14/2007 3:29:58 AM
    - I have a simular view on the subject. - REB - 6/14/2007 4:15:41 PM
      - re: I have a simular view on the subject. - Johannes - 6/16/2007 3:34:44 AM
        
        Why on Earth would you think there was any scientific meaning in genisis?!! - ARRELL - 6/20/2007 11:25:34 PM
        
        re: Why not? - Johannes - 6/21/2007 3:18:28 AM
      - How come God let 9-11 or the tsunami happen.. - Raoul - 6/14/2007 9:15:08 PM
        
        What I find INFURIATING... - ARRELL - 6/21/2007 1:22:24 AM
        
        re: Thou of little faith. - Johannes - 6/21/2007 3:38:33 AM
        
        Freewill. - REB - 6/14/2007 9:43:33 PM
        
        Wish I remembered who said this: - Mary Anne - 6/17/2007 6:37:21 PM
        
        Subjective! - Raoul - 6/15/2007 5:37:52 AM
        
        re: Subjective! - REB - 6/15/2007 1:26:56 PM
        
        That is a human interpretation, nothing more. (n/t) - Raoul - 6/16/2007 8:42:32 AM
    - Or maybe - ds - 6/14/2007 2:47:11 PM
      - re: Thanks - Johannes - 6/15/2007 4:34:20 PM
      - I can appreciate the time and energy you applied to this Johannes. - Jody - 6/14/2007 3:48:21 PM
        
        Jody, Jody - azstrummer - 6/22/2007 4:47:16 PM
        
        Art, Art - Jody - 6/25/2007 2:14:38 AM
        
        re: Art, Art - azstrummer - 6/25/2007 4:20:22 AM
        
        Cahones - Jody - 6/25/2007 10:53:47 AM
        
        re:Thank you for your thoughts Jody - Johannes - 6/15/2007 4:48:07 PM
        
        Johannes Kepler considered God to be the Ultimate Geometrer - ds - 6/14/2007 6:43:20 PM
- Continue ignoring the Allah-phant in the room. (n/t) - You Quran, but you can't hide. - 6/12/2007 2:17:14 AM
- I hear they sell a lot of Bibles in Europe - FrankC - 6/11/2007 11:28:10 PM
  - And fewer and fewer going to church (n/t) - Raoul - 6/12/2007 5:31:27 AM
  - Back in my 30's I tried to read the Bible... - Jody - 6/12/2007 12:46:54 AM
    - I have tried to read it from cover to cover, but I can't seem to do it. - REB - 6/15/2007 1:22:25 PM
      - Spoiler alert.... - ARRELL - 6/19/2007 3:54:52 PM
        
        LOL ...Arrell...I swanee!!! That was great! - Jody - 6/22/2007 7:04:14 PM
        
        Swanee???? (n/t) - ARRELL - 6/22/2007 11:31:22 PM
        
        "I swanee:, or I swan"...southern for I swear. (n/t) - Jody - 6/25/2007 10:56:14 AM
        
        Huh.... never heard that one - :) - 6/26/2007 10:18:08 PM
- As opposed to the Koran in Europe? - TB - 6/11/2007 10:28:04 PM
  - Lol at all nervous inexperienced kids here - The Truth - 7/11/2007 8:07:23 PM
  - Europeans are throwing out Christianity while opening their arms to Islam - REB - 6/12/2007 1:23:23 PM
  - Your argument has a flaw - Raoul - 6/12/2007 5:30:18 AM
  - Whoa... - TB - 6/11/2007 10:30:23 PM
    - And heaven forbid if you should be a young woman... - ds - 6/12/2007 2:22:38 PM
      - re: And heaven forbid if you should be a young woman... - Jody - 6/13/2007 3:02:19 AM
        
        Mormons - TB - 6/13/2007 4:45:39 AM
        
        Yeah, but... - ds - 6/13/2007 6:02:07 PM
        
        You know that the women can only wear white cotton underwear - Jody - 6/14/2007 4:44:22 AM
        
        jody why do you spend some much time thinking about other ppls religion - Anna - 7/11/2007 8:16:09 PM
        
        For one that professes to be so devout, you are an ass- and one more thing - ARRELL - 7/11/2007 10:13:03 PM
        
        Jody, you smoke? - azstrummer - 6/18/2007 9:05:27 PM
        
        "But the worst part is the kissing." - Lindy - 6/20/2007 2:36:04 PM
        
        "(Other problem is his wife..........LOL)" - azstrummer - 6/22/2007 9:21:08 PM
        
        FUNNY......... - Lindy - 6/23/2007 2:32:42 AM
        
        No worries -- so do I - Fox - 6/19/2007 5:29:35 PM
        
        I would like that:) (n/t) - Jody - 6/19/2007 7:37:34 PM
        
        Geez, you two - get a room! ;) - LS - 6/19/2007 8:16:24 PM
        
        OK (n/t) - Fox - 6/20/2007 2:26:38 AM
        
        :) (n/t) - Jody - 6/20/2007 3:14:57 AM
        
        Sorry Guitar man...I am who I am - Jody - 6/19/2007 4:04:03 AM
        
        Jody don't worry almost noone cares about you - Mannisson - 7/11/2007 8:11:07 PM
        
        Other concern - azstrummer - 6/19/2007 3:50:36 PM
        
        I accept all religious faith equally.... - ARRELL - 6/13/2007 11:55:08 PM
        
        Count me in with that Arrell. - Jody - 6/14/2007 4:31:00 AM

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