Well shucks

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Well shucks

Robert — 7/4/2007 6:35:11 AM (archived)

It's fun, but also like stretching a muscle I haven't used in a while. Easy to get trapped behind the event horizon of an intense technical project. I have some time, where else would I hang? The Zone gathers worthy opponents from all over :-)

"The Assault on Reason" was an inspiration to get back into participating not because of its author, but because of the indisputable idea that a democracy is stronger when all citizens participate freely in debate about the issues of the day. Very conservative, actually, holding up as a model a 19th century world in which political discourse was mediated by the printing press. I can't help but translate that into today and the Zone. We live by our words, just like those scrappy citizen-intellectuals of 19th century America. Or so the idyllic vision goes...but it resonates.

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A hypothetical question: - Jody - 6/29/2007 10:37:17 AM
- Can we reverse this? - nick hoffman - 7/6/2007 3:47:39 PM
  - Two words: President Cheney - Mary Anne - 7/7/2007 10:02:49 PM
    - Yipe indeed - McFly - 7/8/2007 10:34:51 PM
    - I'd vote for Cheney in 08 if he chose to run. - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/8/2007 8:14:27 AM
      - Me too. Most fortunately, we won't have to. - TB - 7/8/2007 8:24:07 PM
      - I hope I live long enough to prove you wrong - Lindy - 7/8/2007 4:40:20 PM
        
        Most people discarded "war for oil" a long time ago. - TB - 7/8/2007 8:33:41 PM
        
        I didn't - Lindy - 7/8/2007 8:58:35 PM
      - heh. No doubt. - Mary Anne - 7/8/2007 1:54:50 PM
        
        It all depends... - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/8/2007 4:30:39 PM
        
        Democracy places trust in the people. - Mary Anne - 7/8/2007 5:57:54 PM
        
        re: Democracy places trust in the people. - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/8/2007 9:27:10 PM
        
        One motivation you're forgetting - azstrummer - 7/9/2007 8:21:40 PM
        
        Does Cheney look like a rabid religionist? - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/10/2007 8:07:11 AM
        
        Mind Wars - Lindy - 7/10/2007 12:16:28 AM
        
        Where do you keep finding these nuts? - TB - 7/10/2007 1:00:46 AM
        
        I wouldn't exactly call him that - Lindy - 7/10/2007 3:43:03 PM
        
        What I find fascinating about this post... - TB - 7/9/2007 10:28:28 PM
        
        I wouldn't be a bit surprised - Lindy - 7/10/2007 12:20:07 AM
        
        What do you get when you fall in love with Power? - Eri - 7/8/2007 9:42:25 PM
        
        I agree with you Eri - Lindy - 7/8/2007 11:16:40 PM
        
        If one really loves power... - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/8/2007 10:13:22 PM
        
        re: If one really loves power... - Eri - 7/8/2007 11:53:42 PM
        
        Yeah...right... - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/9/2007 12:08:36 AM
        
        You really DON'T know what you're talking about - Eri - 7/9/2007 3:51:58 AM
        
        Wearing blinders - Lindy - 7/9/2007 4:51:51 AM
        
        re: If one really loves power... - Lindy - 7/8/2007 11:20:55 PM
        
        If one loves money, one stays a CEO. - Mary Anne - 7/8/2007 11:07:33 PM
        
        Lots of folks had things to gain... - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/8/2007 11:33:56 PM
        
        Most major politicians, unfortunately. - TB - 7/8/2007 9:56:43 PM
        
        Most major politicians go play golf - Lindy - 7/8/2007 11:27:13 PM
        
        Most major politicians go play golf - Lindy - 7/8/2007 11:27:05 PM
        
        Tom sees white when there is only black - Lindy - 7/8/2007 11:23:31 PM
        
        Where have I been? - TB - 7/9/2007 3:42:12 AM
        
        On the radio tonight - Eri - 7/9/2007 3:56:51 AM
    - President Cheney -- ACKKKKKK!!!!!! - Eri - 7/8/2007 12:29:34 AM
  - Snort! (n/t) - Eri - 7/7/2007 6:50:01 AM
- Eisenhower - azstrummer - 7/3/2007 10:12:57 PM
  - We'd be better off if all our presidents were drafted. - TB - 7/4/2007 4:24:12 AM
    - re: Presidential draft - Fox - 7/7/2007 6:05:52 PM
    - HERE we agree - ARRELL - 7/5/2007 7:44:11 PM
- Sam Houston :) - REB - 7/2/2007 3:55:27 PM
- Maybe we could use a man like Calvin Coolidge again :) - FrankC - 6/30/2007 10:30:22 PM
  - The Coolidge effect - FrankC - 7/3/2007 10:24:44 PM
  - Wasn't it - Buck Galaxy - 7/2/2007 8:05:39 AM
    - Yes, but I never liked Hoover (g) (n/t) - FrankC - 7/2/2007 4:27:35 PM
  - My Father was - Jody - 6/30/2007 11:00:50 PM
    - Getting off on a tangent - Lee - 6/30/2007 11:51:25 PM
  - My hero - FrankC - 6/30/2007 10:35:13 PM
- A tough decision - Fox - 6/30/2007 5:16:29 PM
  - Carter? - TB - 7/1/2007 5:55:19 AM
  - re: A tough decision - Lindy - 7/1/2007 3:28:29 AM
  - Not new, not old... - Robert - 6/30/2007 8:34:44 PM
    - re: Choices and aspirations - Fox - 7/7/2007 6:57:25 PM
      - I love the idea... - Eri - 7/8/2007 12:45:21 AM
    - http://draftgore.com/ - Buck Galaxy - 7/1/2007 7:05:12 PM
      - thanks - Robert - 7/1/2007 7:45:05 PM
        
        "been burnt by politicians " - Buck Galaxy - 7/2/2007 1:49:33 AM
        
        Just to be clear... - Robert - 7/2/2007 5:11:09 PM
        
        Gore as an independent - Buck Galaxy - 7/3/2007 2:54:37 AM
        
        How about Gore/Edwards? - Lindy - 7/2/2007 11:40:43 PM
        
        zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.... - Fox - 7/10/2007 2:27:07 AM
        
        Gore as an independent - TB - 7/2/2007 5:36:52 PM
        
        Profoundly ironic - Robert - 7/2/2007 8:41:35 PM
        
        Check your premises - TB - 7/2/2007 12:44:31 AM
        
        Intellectual Republican - Robert - 7/2/2007 4:42:13 PM
        
        re: Intellectual Republican - Marcia - 7/3/2007 4:50:06 PM
        
        re: Intellectual Republican - Robert - 7/3/2007 5:27:06 PM
        
        re: Intellectual Republicans - TB - 7/2/2007 6:13:25 PM
        
        re: Intellectual Republicans - Robert - 7/2/2007 9:14:16 PM
        
        BTW, it IS good to have you back in the saddle! - TB - 7/4/2007 5:39:49 AM
        
        Well shucks - Robert - 7/4/2007 6:35:11 AM
        
        "democracy is stronger when all citizens participate freely in debate about the issues of the day" - TB - 7/4/2007 4:58:49 PM
        
        I hate to say it but - azstrummer - 7/4/2007 5:24:11 AM
        
        Our politicians need training ala the British model - Eri - 7/4/2007 4:25:03 PM
        
        Any of them could - Robert - 7/4/2007 6:19:53 AM
        
        "Bet we could come up with a better platform" - TB - 7/4/2007 5:48:05 PM
        
        re: Intellectual Republicans - TB - 7/2/2007 11:53:35 PM
        
        re: "... raw brains are not always a guideline for... success." - Fox - 7/7/2007 7:49:53 PM
        
        re: a guideline for success - TB - 7/7/2007 11:04:10 PM
        
        re: Intellectual Republicans - Robert - 7/3/2007 5:19:00 PM
        
        re: Intellectual Republicans - TB - 7/3/2007 11:59:37 PM
        
        Republican intellectual? - Eri - 7/1/2007 9:06:34 PM
        
        Intellectual politicians is the oxymoron (n/t) - FrankC - 7/2/2007 6:41:50 AM
        
        ...and that was one of Al's points. (n/t) - Robert - 7/2/2007 9:15:43 PM
    - OMIGOD...Robert's posting! - Lindy - 7/1/2007 3:36:00 AM
    - Excellent analysis. - Eri - 6/30/2007 10:56:02 PM
  - If your brave enough to say Carter then I'm going to say Reagan. (n/t) - RobVG - 6/30/2007 7:35:52 PM
    - Reagan?? !! - Lindy - 7/1/2007 3:41:05 AM
      - re: Reagan! :) (n/t) - Marcia - 7/3/2007 2:11:18 AM
    - "You're" (n/t) - RobVG - 6/30/2007 10:48:22 PM
    - LOL...notice how I have not said, yet???!! (n/t) - Jody - 6/30/2007 8:30:53 PM
      - Well, fess up! (n/t) - Eri - 7/1/2007 3:07:43 AM
        
        Yes Ma'm!...;) - Jody - 7/1/2007 11:32:35 AM
        
        Another vote for Jefferson! - TB - 7/2/2007 12:57:02 AM
        
        re: Another vote for Jefferson! - I know, him too. - Marcia - 7/3/2007 2:13:03 AM
        
        Very interesting Jefferson Quote - Lindy - 7/1/2007 6:27:44 PM
        
        Ironically... - Jody - 7/1/2007 12:06:36 PM
        
        re: Same to you, Jody! (n/t) - Marcia - 7/3/2007 2:15:20 AM
        
        As will I! - Eri - 7/1/2007 3:25:53 PM
      - Yes, somewhat catty on your part.:P (n/t) - RobVG - 6/30/2007 10:47:04 PM
        
        meow (n/t) - Jody - 6/30/2007 10:51:34 PM
- Clinton - Buck Galaxy - 6/30/2007 5:48:01 AM
  - I concur - McFly - 7/2/2007 2:19:23 AM
  - But don't you think that we have that "ability" now? - Jody - 7/1/2007 1:22:08 PM
  - You'd be for Hillary then. - TB - 6/30/2007 5:29:51 PM
  - I'll sign the petition (n/t) - Eri - 6/30/2007 2:41:47 PM
- Lincoln (n/t) - Eri - 6/30/2007 12:41:16 AM
- Wilson (n/t) - alcaray - 6/29/2007 8:44:30 PM
- Truman (n/t) - Bowser - 6/29/2007 5:34:54 PM
  - re: Truman - ds - 6/30/2007 2:11:42 AM
    - LOL! (n/t) - Eri - 6/30/2007 5:51:32 PM
- Jefferson or Teddy (n/t) - Lee - 6/29/2007 4:00:09 PM
  - It surprises me Lee, - Jody - 7/1/2007 12:15:43 PM
    - "Widely acknowledged." - TB - 7/2/2007 12:51:48 AM
    - He did have his flaws. - Lee - 7/2/2007 12:28:52 AM
      - Lee, you're starting to turn into a caricature. - TB - 7/2/2007 12:49:40 AM
    - She got you on that one - Lindy - 7/1/2007 6:26:35 PM
      - Mary J, Pam Grier, and Tina. - RobVG - 7/2/2007 4:11:29 AM
        
        Denzel Washington, Blair Underwood,and Sidney Poitier for me!!! (n/t) - Jody - 7/2/2007 4:24:56 AM
        
        Good grief, Sidney Poitier is about 80 years old! (n/t) - TB - 7/2/2007 6:03:44 AM
        
        Nature is full of freaks, and now - Jody - 7/2/2007 10:35:48 AM
      - No she didn't. - Lee - 7/2/2007 12:30:37 AM
- JFK (n/t) - Lindy - 6/29/2007 1:09:20 PM
  - LaRouche - ds - 6/29/2007 8:27:39 PM
    - Damn it ds!!!!! - Jody - 6/29/2007 9:23:38 PM
      - re: Damn it ds!!!!! - ds - 6/30/2007 2:11:11 AM

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