I'm forced to agree with you on this one.

ER — 7/26/2007 1:42:56 PM (archived)

It's easy to say what you might do if the Iron Heel comes crashing down, but the reality of that horror, and how we might react to it, is difficult for Americans to comprehend. Che said "Revolutionaries win, or die", and he experienced both sides of the same coin. It would be presumptious to say how anyone, particularly someone with a family, would choose to react to a brutal dictatorship, and experience has shown us that in spite of the occasional heroes, most people just go along. And I cannot judge them too harshly.

I base my opinions on what I know happened in Cuba. It was totally unexpected and it happened to a people who had already demonstrated their courage and resilience. I don't think it will ever happen here, but it can never be ruled out anywhere. And when it comes it is always a surprise. Out of chaos comes totalitarianism, not anarchy.

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A new challenge to supporters of this administration - azstrummer - 7/22/2007 11:21:24 PM
- Breaking News....You could be RIGHT! - Lindy - 7/26/2007 2:27:51 PM
- hey we have an imperial congress...And term limits for them is seen as out of the question... - TAFKASE - 7/25/2007 1:44:00 PM
  - Two words..... - Jody - 7/25/2007 4:05:57 PM
    - He's getting booted by term limits also. - TAFKASE - 7/25/2007 7:45:27 PM
      - Brushing with broad brush strokes - Eri - 7/26/2007 1:02:35 AM
      - Brushing with broad brush strokes - Eri - 7/26/2007 1:02:29 AM
      - I am not a liberal...not a republican either - Jody - 7/25/2007 10:29:18 PM
- Everything old is new again - Fox - 7/24/2007 6:02:44 PM
- re: A new challenge to supporters of this administration - REB - 7/24/2007 4:30:21 PM
  - martial law - FrankC - 7/25/2007 6:11:27 PM
    - if martial law doesn't work in Iraq, how would it work in the USA? - TAFKASE - 7/25/2007 8:10:09 PM
      - Depends on how martial you want to get. - Lee - 7/26/2007 2:20:13 AM
      - It depends - FrankC - 7/25/2007 9:33:23 PM
- Interesting development - azstrummer - 7/24/2007 2:36:18 PM
- Do you think it would help the stock market? (n/t) - Day Trader - 7/24/2007 12:46:28 PM
- paranoia may destroy ya (n/t) - Ray Davies - 7/24/2007 12:45:14 PM
  - step outta line, the Man come and he take you away (n/t) - Steven Stills - 7/24/2007 5:48:14 PM
    - You got yer dead skunk in the middle of the road Stinkin' to high Heaven! (n/t) - Loudon Wainwright III - 7/24/2007 6:40:10 PM
- Metaphorically speaking of course - Jody - 7/23/2007 5:33:06 PM
  - wasn't looking for you to physically grow a set - azstrummer - 7/24/2007 5:57:47 PM
    - ;) (n/t) - Jody - 7/24/2007 11:01:55 PM
- I am not a fervent supporter - Jody - 7/23/2007 2:16:44 PM
  - Democracy - Raoul - 7/23/2007 3:17:08 PM
    - re: Democracy - YES! - Marcia - 7/23/2007 8:25:53 PM
      - Belgium was born in 1831, is a bit younger than the US and has a better democratic system - Raoul - 7/23/2007 9:16:47 PM
        
        You are fortunate, Raoul! (n/t) - Jody - 7/24/2007 1:02:59 PM
        
        re: You are fortunate, Raoul! - Marcia - 7/27/2007 9:10:54 PM
        
        Congo - Raoul - 7/31/2007 6:07:01 PM
        
        re: Congo. - Thanks, Raoul. (n/t) - Marcia - 8/3/2007 6:29:02 PM
        
        Better? - Lee - 7/23/2007 9:47:51 PM
        
        Because it used racist propaganda, yes - Raoul - 7/23/2007 10:00:03 PM
        
        Racist by who's standards? - Lee - 7/24/2007 12:01:09 AM
        
        The VB was condemned for racism and - Raoul - 7/24/2007 6:41:56 AM
    - Government problems - FrankC - 7/23/2007 6:56:00 PM
      - Wasn't that Italy? Perhaps France before 1958 - Raoul - 7/23/2007 7:21:01 PM
    - re: Democracy - Jody - 7/23/2007 5:19:57 PM
      - Astonished... - Raoul - 7/23/2007 6:44:33 PM
        
        re: Astonished... - Lindy - 7/31/2007 2:33:44 AM
        
        re: Astonished... - Raoul - 7/31/2007 6:09:50 PM
        
        re: Astonished... - gbaikie - 7/24/2007 3:26:07 AM
        
        I feel that... - Jody - 7/23/2007 7:08:13 PM
        
        re: And I'feel that... - Raoul - 7/23/2007 7:26:22 PM
        
        re: And I'feel that... - Marcia - 7/23/2007 10:46:35 PM
- re: A new challenge to supporters of this administration - Jeff F - 7/23/2007 12:30:17 PM
  - I disagree. - TB - 7/24/2007 5:24:47 PM
    - Or in short: - TB - 7/24/2007 5:25:40 PM
  - Jeff Foust - American Fascist - directorizor - 7/24/2007 3:47:16 AM
    - Not Jeff Foust - Jeff F - 7/24/2007 9:19:15 AM
- It is early morning... - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/23/2007 5:12:56 AM
  - I just read this.... - Lindy - 7/28/2007 2:17:30 AM
  - out in the real world... - TB - 7/23/2007 6:25:39 AM
    - You're right... - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/23/2007 9:33:52 PM
      - Jeez........ - Lindy - 7/28/2007 8:17:17 PM
      - Hey... - TB - 7/24/2007 3:39:11 AM
  - Not to worry - FrankC - 7/23/2007 5:32:18 AM
    - LOL...True... - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/23/2007 5:38:49 AM
- re: A new challenge - TB - 7/23/2007 1:09:57 AM
  - Pretty much what I expected - azstrummer - 7/23/2007 3:07:08 AM
    - Talk is cheap, Art. - TB - 7/23/2007 4:40:27 AM
      - I'm forced to agree with you on this one. - ER - 7/26/2007 1:42:56 PM
        
        Iron Heel - azstrummer - 7/27/2007 4:15:50 PM
        
        You have a point. And I'll keep it in mind. - ER - 7/31/2007 1:20:47 PM
    - re: Pretty much what I expected - gbaikie - 7/23/2007 3:21:35 AM
      - Grounding flights - azstrummer - 7/23/2007 4:02:25 AM
        
        re: Grounding flights - gbaikie - 7/23/2007 10:22:55 AM
        
        Loyalty to Bush - azstrummer - 7/24/2007 7:34:33 PM
        
        nothing new - gbaikie - 7/24/2007 8:16:58 PM
        
        Loyalty in general - azstrummer - 7/24/2007 10:11:40 PM
        
        re: Loyalty in general - gbaikie - 7/25/2007 2:51:04 AM
  - If he had asked the question without snark... - alcaray - 7/23/2007 1:29:10 AM
    - The snark unfortunately was necessary - azstrummer - 7/23/2007 3:38:12 AM
    - Snark or no snark, it was a dumbass question. - TB - 7/23/2007 2:19:56 AM
      - Snark? SNARK?? - Lindy - 7/26/2007 2:23:01 AM
      - "Geez" is not answer - Robert - 7/23/2007 9:55:10 PM
        
        "Geez is not an answer. "It's a dumbass question" is. - TB - 7/24/2007 3:54:34 AM
        
        "Geez" is a dumbass answer - Robert - 7/24/2007 6:19:38 PM
        
        Heinlein on the question "could it happen here?" - Robert - 7/24/2007 8:20:39 PM
        
        By the standards of that time, - ER - 7/25/2007 3:25:19 PM
        
        You're just spewing now. - TB - 7/25/2007 1:59:48 AM
        
        Vector sums and survival traits - Robert - 7/25/2007 4:35:21 PM
        
        Huh? - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/26/2007 12:06:27 AM
        
        When did liberals become such interrogation Nazis? - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/23/2007 10:16:34 PM
      - I like to think I could have answered the question... - alcaray - 7/23/2007 2:42:26 AM
        
        re: I like to think I could have answered the question... - gbaikie - 7/23/2007 3:37:25 AM
        
        Don't really expect dead people to answer questions. - alcaray - 7/23/2007 4:02:59 AM
        
        Let me give it a shot. - TB - 7/23/2007 6:04:47 AM
        
        Hitler could have... - alcaray - 7/23/2007 7:35:09 AM
    - What's not to snark at? - Lee - 7/23/2007 2:09:57 AM
      - I'm cutting Art some slack, and assuming it was hypothetical, not that he believes it. (n/t) - TB - 7/23/2007 2:20:44 AM

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