"Religion requires we never ask questions like this. It is presumptuous to think you can know the mind of a god." Now, that is just bullshit, IMO. Some religious LEADERS require we never ask questions. Those people are not spiritual leaders (I dealt with this in my humility thread); they are assholes who want to control, control, control. If a religious leader ever said those words to me, I'd spit in his or her face. God doesn't mind our questions.
1 Cor 12: Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant.
2 Ye know that ye were Gentiles, carried away unto these dumb [speechless] idols, even as ye were led.
.3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.
.4 Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.
.5 And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord.
6 And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all.
.7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.
.8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
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I'll see if I can find Bill's study in the archives. I'd have to review it again in order to respond to your comments. Or course, I could invite him here. ;-)
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- Another reason I'm an atheist
- You *do* realize...
- Prayer v. begging. One reason I'm not an atheist.
- re: Another reason I'm an atheist
- Prayer works.
- Dear Eri and Reb,
- May I cut in for a moment?
- re: Dear Eri and Reb,
- There's the thing
- I don't think our fates are predetermined.
- re: I don't think our fates are predetermined.
- Then why...
- I don't know what religion you were indoctrinated into but it sounds like it had some severe failings.
- re: Then why...
- I don't think our fates are predetermined.
- Dear Eri and Reb,
- REB, I'm not upset with praying. It's scientifically analyzing it that makes me crazy.
- To be fair...
- Fair enough (n/t)
- Prayer works.
