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"Lehman Brothers in $8.7 billion bonus payouts" - Bowser - 9/22/2008 5:41:25 AM
- re: "Lehman Brothers in $8.7 billion bonus payouts" - Lindy - 9/22/2008 2:34:51 PM
- re: Government To Steal $15,000 From Every American Household To Bailout Big Banks and Lenders - Eric - 9/22/2008 11:03:23 AM

"Paulson: Foreign banks can use U.S. rescue plan", not just the plan but the money. - Bowser - 9/21/2008 4:45:29 PM
- What is it now? A 10 trillion dollar American debt? - Jacob - 9/21/2008 9:27:46 PM
  - I believe its over 11 trillion after this latest bailout occurs... - ARRELL - 9/22/2008 6:49:38 AM

Former Secretaries of State rule out McCain. - Bowser - 9/21/2008 12:25:36 AM
- John McCain. A serious, responsible statesman for today's complicated world. - z - 9/21/2008 8:41:35 PM
  - It's a little over the top - Lindy - 9/21/2008 10:25:00 PM
    - Wrong answer to wrong post. - Lindy - 9/21/2008 10:26:54 PM

This is Your Nation on White Privilege - Eri - 9/21/2008 4:23:35 PM

"Obama's Social Security Whopper" - Bowser - 9/21/2008 2:22:44 PM
- But McCain has been supporting the privatization of Social Security for many, many years, not just in this campaign - z - 9/21/2008 3:59:29 PM
- Oh they're just nitpicking. (n/t) - RobVG - 9/21/2008 3:43:00 PM

More economics - Tom Brosz - 12/9/2005 6:55:15 PM
- Some Real Comparisons - Mark Eby - 12/11/2005 3:29:10 PM
  - So Only Independents Can Read Graphs? - Mark Eby - 12/13/2005 2:12:20 AM
    - I never say "me too". You were doing a good job and I had nothing to add. - alcaray - 12/13/2005 5:05:36 PM
    - Okay, let's simplify: - Tom Brosz - 12/13/2005 3:57:39 AM
      - Let's See - Mark Eby - 12/14/2005 2:18:05 AM
      - Nice Try But - ID - 12/13/2005 2:46:52 PM
        
        Okay, let me get this straight: the new story is that the war in Iraq is stimulating the economy?? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 12/13/2005 5:57:44 PM
        
        Were You Serious? - Mark Eby - 12/14/2005 12:29:59 AM
        
        Maybe you hadn't heard. - Tom Brosz - 12/14/2005 7:34:52 AM
        
        You may be confusing the Federal budget with the economy. - alcaray - 12/14/2005 4:32:14 PM
        
        Maybe You're In The Twilight Zone - Mark Eby - 12/14/2005 2:45:35 PM
        
        Read the first sentence again. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 12/14/2005 5:44:24 PM
        
        Make up your mind who you're having a debate with. - Tony - 12/14/2005 7:24:50 PM
        
        re: Okay, let me get this straight: the new story is that the war in Iraq is stimulating the economy?? - azstrummer - 12/13/2005 10:01:24 PM
        
        If that's news to you.... - Tony - 12/13/2005 7:29:12 PM
  - re: Some Real Comparisons - Tom Brosz - 12/11/2005 7:50:59 PM
    - This is an example of what you call a "gyration"? (n/t) - alcaray - 12/12/2005 10:45:31 PM
    - Where Did I Ever Suggest An Increase? - Mark Eby - 12/11/2005 10:36:19 PM
      - All right. Make that "keeping taxes high." (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 12/12/2005 6:29:47 AM
- What BS - Mark Eby - 12/10/2005 8:32:04 PM
  - re: What BS - Tom Brosz - 12/10/2005 9:21:20 PM
    - So, Tom, Hows that brilliant Bush economic policy working out now? - ARRELL - 9/21/2008 3:18:50 PM
    - Revenues Always Increase After A Recession - If That's Your Proof It's Nil (n/t) - Mark Eby - 12/10/2005 11:09:20 PM
      - The economy was slowing in 2000 but weren't in a recession - Larry J - 12/11/2005 2:27:25 AM
        
        Read Definitions & Data In Links Above (n/t) - Mark Eby - 12/11/2005 3:31:39 PM
- War and deficit spending have been the last refuge of desperate politicians stimulating an economy. (n/t) - Bowser - 12/10/2005 6:38:53 AM
- Tax rate reductions spurring the economy and resulting in higher revenues is nothing new - Larry J - 12/9/2005 7:53:53 PM
  - History Reminder - Mark Eby - 12/10/2005 8:10:41 PM
    - re: History Reminder - Larry J - 12/11/2005 2:25:02 AM
      - What You Missed - Mark Eby - 12/11/2005 11:37:56 PM
        
        Very good point - Sam F. - 12/12/2005 10:48:56 AM
        
        re: Drunken Overspending by Congress - Scott Evil - 12/13/2005 6:37:30 AM
        
        Sorry No - Mark Eby - 12/14/2005 3:01:30 AM
  - re: Tax rate reductions spurring the economy and resulting in higher revenues is nothing new - azstrummer - 12/9/2005 10:09:51 PM
    - re: Big business would scream - Scott Evil - 12/13/2005 6:53:40 AM
    - re: Tax rate reductions spurring the economy and resulting in higher revenues is nothing new - Buck Galaxy - 12/10/2005 4:20:35 AM

Polls and predictions - JEKing - 9/21/2008 1:02:31 AM
- re: Polls and predictions - Eric - 9/21/2008 12:11:58 PM
- re: Polls and predictions - ER - 9/21/2008 1:35:55 AM
  - Bear in mind it is just one guy's opinion. - alcaray - 9/21/2008 2:27:26 AM

The Big Bang Machine Goes Bust - Eric - 9/20/2008 12:01:51 PM
- Maybe God doesn't want us to know the origin of the Universe. - Eri - 9/20/2008 2:30:50 PM
  - Maybe God doesn't remember. (n/t) - ER - 9/20/2008 5:09:51 PM
    - LOL! (n/t) - Eri - 9/20/2008 7:45:42 PM

Text of Financial Crisis Legislation - Eric - 9/20/2008 7:01:59 PM

The worst possible news. "Bush says he's working hard on economic turmoil." - Bowser - 9/18/2008 7:35:47 PM
- Hasn't he been doing that for the last 8 years? - Laurie Street - 9/18/2008 8:40:56 PM
  - Yeah, If U Consider a Run Down Economy a Sucess! - carl - 9/19/2008 1:50:34 PM
    - That's what I meant. (n/t) - Laurie Street - 9/19/2008 4:15:06 PM
- choking on government intervention - JEKing - 9/18/2008 7:54:58 PM
  - $500 Trillion??? - Lee - 9/19/2008 5:15:07 PM
    - re: $500 Trillion??? - JEKing - 9/20/2008 4:53:03 PM
  - Urging prudence in an often incautious sector - McFly - 9/19/2008 8:08:16 AM

12Yr Old Invents 3D Solar Cell - Eric - 9/20/2008 2:05:59 AM
- more... - Eric - 9/20/2008 4:45:38 PM
- Ah, but who was first? - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/20/2008 6:36:45 AM
  - Are you sure Al Gore didn't beat you to it? (n/t) - ER - 9/20/2008 7:28:28 AM
    - It was very close. - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/20/2008 10:38:44 AM
- Oh Wow! - Eri - 9/20/2008 3:10:30 AM

Adding up McCain's words to find a pattern - alcaray - 9/19/2008 8:58:31 PM
- re: Adding up McCain's words to find a pattern - JEKing - 9/19/2008 9:13:15 PM
  - And he's all about lying and doing anything to get elected President. - Eri - 9/19/2008 11:11:12 PM
    - In religion and politics, people's beliefs and convictions are in almost every case gotten at second hand, and without examination (Mark Twain) - JEKing - 9/20/2008 4:17:17 AM

Financial bust and social senescence - JEKing - 9/19/2008 7:24:05 PM
- The last line - "5 Tips To Get A Flat Stomach" - Bowser - 9/20/2008 12:58:18 AM
  - You trying to cause me to die of a heart attack? (n/t) - Eri - 9/20/2008 3:06:46 AM
- Is he saying the West is declining? (n/t) - ER - 9/19/2008 7:43:55 PM
  - not just the West. read the article (n/t) - JEKing - 9/19/2008 8:01:55 PM
    - I did read the article. - ER - 9/19/2008 8:05:32 PM
      - re: I did read the article. - JEKing - 9/19/2008 8:19:23 PM

Obama has turned into - Buck Galaxy - 9/20/2008 2:03:39 AM

"Voters souring on GOP" - Oregonians don't like messin' with Bullwinkle. - Bowser - 9/20/2008 12:42:08 AM

My Choice: McCain/Palin - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/29/2008 6:03:30 PM
- McCain only met Palin once or twice - Eric - 8/30/2008 3:21:58 AM
- McCain: Find me a woman! (n/t) - alcaray - 8/29/2008 7:06:26 PM
  - Mccain now has a big smile on his face - Lindy - 8/30/2008 1:51:40 AM
    - You don't really think he's staring at her cleavage, do you? - Bowser - 8/30/2008 3:39:11 AM
      - 8^) Why do you think he's so obsessed with 'drilling in Alaska'? (n/t) - ARRELL - 8/30/2008 2:39:07 PM
        
        Dunno... - Jody - 9/20/2008 12:40:38 AM
      - re: You don't really think he's staring at her cleavage, do you? - Lindy - 8/30/2008 2:29:07 PM
        
        re: You don't really think he's staring at her cleavage, do you? - Lindy - 9/19/2008 3:21:41 AM
        
        I WOULD APPRECIATE YOU NOT USING MY NAME - Lindy - 9/19/2008 11:55:34 AM
  - A lot of analysts are finding desperation in that choice. (n/t) - Bowser - 8/29/2008 9:35:40 PM
  - re: McCain: Find me a woman! - Robert - 8/29/2008 8:01:42 PM
- Is the McCain campaign going to stop hitting Obama for "lack of experience"? - alcaray - 8/29/2008 7:05:05 PM
  - Is the Obama campaign going to stop talking about "Change?" - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/29/2008 7:11:07 PM
    - Executive experience? - Eri - 8/30/2008 12:46:01 AM
      - " I can just see her going head to head with Putin." - Lindy - 8/30/2008 1:53:41 AM
        
        re: " I can just see her going head to head with Putin."-nail on the head - Andrew - 8/30/2008 4:05:00 AM
        
        Someone who knows what they're doing. - Eri - 8/30/2008 4:27:54 AM
        
        Nothing. As long as they ain't runnin' for Veep or Prez! (n/t) - Eri - 8/30/2008 2:38:46 AM
    - Is that a "no"? (n/t) - alcaray - 8/29/2008 8:40:32 PM
      - Which party has the "experience" at the top of ticket? - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/29/2008 8:58:46 PM
        
        So, "no". Right? - alcaray - 8/29/2008 9:07:51 PM
        
        Nah, - Robert - 8/29/2008 9:49:15 PM
        
        No. - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/29/2008 9:22:06 PM
        
        Tech's view? - Laurie Street - 8/29/2008 10:03:57 PM
        
        ROTFLMAO - Lindy - 8/29/2008 11:56:51 PM
        
        LOL, now that's funny. - Lee - 8/29/2008 11:12:56 PM
        
        You need to give credit to Lynda Carter for those. (n/t) - alcaray - 8/30/2008 12:00:42 AM
        
        Not bad. - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/29/2008 10:45:59 PM
    - And we're talking.... - podrock - 8/29/2008 8:30:24 PM
- re: My Choice: McCain/Palin - Lindy - 8/29/2008 6:20:55 PM
  - Lesser evils. - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/29/2008 6:34:56 PM

SEC imposes emergency ban on short-selling - Lindy - 9/19/2008 11:48:42 AM
- Question on short-selling - Eri - 9/19/2008 2:50:00 PM
  - re: Question on short-selling - JEKing - 9/19/2008 4:37:55 PM
    - Ah so! The light bulb went on. Thank you! - Eri - 9/19/2008 11:38:08 PM
    - Banning ALL short-selling was dumb. Probably create a market bubble. (n/t) - TB - 9/19/2008 4:52:39 PM
      - They tried a partial ban to protect a few select companies earlier.... - ARRELL - 9/19/2008 6:11:22 PM
        
        "Just fine with me" - TB - 9/19/2008 7:07:15 PM
        
        Pssssst, TB.... - Eri - 9/19/2008 11:35:00 PM
        
        So tell me, Eri - ER - 9/19/2008 11:46:09 PM
        
        "Precious metals, blankets, canned goods, ammo..." - Lindy - 9/19/2008 11:57:46 PM

McCain and Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. - Lee - 9/19/2008 12:58:23 AM
- "May 25, 2006" - "1 90 never made it to the floor due to Democrats stonewalling it." - Bowser - 9/19/2008 1:15:11 AM
  - re: Barney Frank and Christopher Dodd opposed reforms Bush asked for - SteveS - 9/19/2008 2:06:16 PM
    - re: Barney Frank and Christopher Dodd opposed reforms Bush asked for - ARRELL - 9/19/2008 7:51:24 PM
      - And now, the rest of the story... - TB - 9/19/2008 11:52:56 PM
      - re: Total spin - SteveS - 9/19/2008 9:11:56 PM
        
        That is funny as hell coming from you... - ARRELL - 9/19/2008 9:21:24 PM
        
        re: Link-Are you sitting down? - SteveS - 9/19/2008 11:56:52 PM
    - Which liberal would like to comment on the above post? Anyone...anyone? (n/t) - Lee - 9/19/2008 5:11:40 PM
  - How many votes does it take to mount a filibuster? - Lee - 9/19/2008 1:21:53 AM
    - First, who ran Congress? Second, whose campaign was RUN by lobbiests? - Bowser - 9/19/2008 1:56:39 AM
      - Both of them. - Lee - 9/19/2008 3:08:11 AM
        
        His name is Obama - Lindy - 9/19/2008 11:50:30 AM

US taxpayer to purchase the bad loans, relieving banks of responsibility. - Bowser - 9/19/2008 2:40:10 PM
- It's the "transfer of wealth" in this country - Lindy - 9/19/2008 11:51:45 PM

Uhh, What do the BANKS put 4 COLLATERAL for 145 BILLION BUCKS??? - carl - 9/19/2008 1:48:14 PM
- American taxpayers, of course.... (n/t) - ARRELL - 9/19/2008 1:50:06 PM
  - I'm touched by this sudden liberal concern for the taxpayer - TB - 9/19/2008 4:46:59 PM
    - priorities (n/t) - alcaray - 9/19/2008 8:10:35 PM
  - NO NO NO. Hard Property Like - carl - 9/19/2008 1:51:55 PM
    - Nope- the collateral is taxpaying americans.... - ARRELL - 9/19/2008 2:00:34 PM
      - Can't GET BLOOD from STONE - carl - 9/19/2008 3:14:54 PM
        
        No, but if you squeeze a taxpayer hard enough it gushes out (n/t) - McFly - 9/19/2008 4:03:31 PM
        
        LMFAO..Tragic BUT TRUE!!!!! - carl - 9/19/2008 4:26:38 PM
      - Al Quaeda is laughing up their arses. - Eri - 9/19/2008 2:54:15 PM
        
        Yeah, I expect they are - McFly - 9/19/2008 3:59:37 PM
        
        Heh. - Eri - 9/19/2008 4:15:05 PM

See? It wasn't all that hard. - ER - 9/19/2008 10:42:06 AM
- And when regulation is proposed, these guys will say self-regulation works. - Bowser - 9/19/2008 2:48:05 PM
  - Maybe he'll just tax elitists and whiners. (n/t) - ER - 9/19/2008 2:56:10 PM
- Tis just a flesh wound! (n/t) - ARRELL - 9/19/2008 2:42:24 PM
  - but a very palpable hit (n/t) - JEKing - 9/19/2008 7:16:14 PM
- Band Aids 'til the NEXT CRISIS - carl - 9/19/2008 1:54:07 PM

Morford on McPalin - Eri - 9/19/2008 3:36:02 PM
- On the same page--"Are you an elitist?" - ER - 9/19/2008 6:07:03 PM

Perspective on Palin - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/17/2008 7:16:11 PM
- I'm bookmarking this for after the election. - Lindy - 9/18/2008 4:45:53 PM
- re: Top Clinton fundraiser backing McCain, not Obama - SteveS - 9/17/2008 8:54:08 PM
  - Elitist Obama? - Tony - 9/18/2008 2:39:33 AM
    - Who was it that said governing the US would be easier if he could be a dictator? (n/t) - Bowser - 9/18/2008 4:32:26 AM
    - On elitism - TB - 9/18/2008 4:30:18 AM
      - They had to re-define elite to make it stick? - Tony - 9/18/2008 11:31:04 AM
        
        Look it up. - TB - 9/18/2008 5:01:01 PM
        
        "I'm not the one redefining the term to mean "wealthy.""- ummmm, no, Bush is.... - ARRELL - 9/19/2008 1:15:12 PM
        
        who said "wealthy"? - Tony - 9/18/2008 6:19:50 PM
        
        You just did. - TB - 9/18/2008 6:51:48 PM
        
        "To the best of my knowledge, she isn't trying to control what fats I can eat, what car I can drive, how big my toilet should be..."- yawn - ARRELL - 9/19/2008 1:21:24 PM
        
        Elitist and proud of it. - ER - 9/18/2008 12:54:18 PM
        
        re: Elitist - TB - 9/18/2008 5:23:12 PM
        
        Reflection and symmetry - ER - 9/18/2008 7:41:22 PM
        
        Fine. - TB - 9/19/2008 12:37:06 AM
        
        Relax. - SDAi-Tech1 - 9/19/2008 1:13:25 AM
        
        re: Fine. - ER - 9/19/2008 12:53:31 AM
        
        Not at all. "Effete" is not even in my vocabulary. Carry on. (n/t) - alcaray - 9/19/2008 12:39:41 AM
        
        When Tom is around... - alcaray - 9/18/2008 9:11:54 PM
        
        It's not his fault. - ER - 9/18/2008 10:32:56 PM
    - And the biggest irony - Robert - 9/18/2008 3:00:41 AM
  - The Rothschilds prefer McCain? - alcaray - 9/17/2008 9:43:07 PM
    - The Rothschilds preference.... - Publius - 9/19/2008 12:01:32 AM
      - All I can afford is their Mouton Cadet. - alcaray - 9/19/2008 12:34:09 AM

McCain campaign spam in my inbox: "polls show John McCain and Governor Palin in a virtual tie" - Robert - 9/18/2008 11:03:17 PM
- Idea for a bumpersticker: "McCain: Palin comparison" - ARRELL - 9/18/2008 11:34:03 PM
  - LOL. Unfortunately, those who need to know that are too dense to recognize the "pun." (n/t) - Eri - 9/19/2008 5:19:06 AM
  - Pretty good. (n/t) - Bowser - 9/19/2008 2:25:13 AM

I actually agree with you on this. - Lee - 9/18/2008 4:52:08 PM
- Wow, how did that happen??? - Lee - 9/18/2008 11:55:49 PM
  - He's a sneaky barstid. (n/t) - alcaray - 9/19/2008 12:31:24 AM
- re: I actually agree with you on this. - JEKing - 9/18/2008 5:51:53 PM

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