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Blatant propaganda: "New Iranian banknote boasts nukes" - Bowser - 3/5/2007 7:06:15 PM
- re: Blatant propaganda: "New Iranian banknote boasts nukes" - [blank] - 3/5/2007 8:41:49 PM
  - Lithium? Maybe they figured out how to make di-lithium crystals. (n/t) - alcaray - 3/5/2007 10:04:35 PM

Bush beginning to sound like Chavez. - Bowser - 3/5/2007 6:57:05 PM

Prime Minister Wen opening speech - gbaikie - 3/5/2007 7:37:58 AM

Expanding on another thread. The US IS currently a fascist government. Right now. - Bowser - 3/4/2007 3:48:37 AM
- guess you've been eating more of those sausages - Daniel - 3/4/2007 5:00:10 PM
  - Guess you've got no comment except 'ad hominem'. Nothing to content. - Bowser - 3/4/2007 5:24:48 PM
    - it was the appropiate polemical response to your original hyper-paranoid rant (n/t) - Daniel - 3/4/2007 5:37:06 PM
      - (Fingers in ears, humming "The Battle Hymn of the Republic" loudly) (n/t) - Bowser - 3/4/2007 6:57:17 PM
        
        "The Battle Hymn of the Republic"...sounds kinda fascistic. - Lee - 3/5/2007 6:34:05 AM
- re: Expanding on another thread. The US IS currently a fascist government. Right now. - Eric - 3/4/2007 1:23:51 PM
  - Must be the eclipse... - TB - 3/4/2007 9:33:51 PM
  - ""The state secrets doctrine has become a shield that covers even the most blatant abuses of power" - Lindy - 3/4/2007 7:57:28 PM
- re: Expanding on another thread. The US IS currently a fascist government. Right now. - gbaikie - 3/4/2007 11:06:53 AM
  - Too true. - SDAI-Tech1 - 3/4/2007 10:34:39 PM
    - guess you're a rancid sausage-eater too - Daniel - 3/5/2007 3:13:05 AM
      - You're sheltered down under. - SDAI-Tech1 - 3/5/2007 3:43:37 AM
        
        WTF would you know what goes here? - Daniel - 3/5/2007 6:14:46 AM
        
        Haw! - TB - 3/5/2007 6:32:32 AM
        
        Remember entropy, though - Daniel - 3/5/2007 6:44:04 AM
        
        "Nixon, Bush, Reagan, Oliver North, William Casey..." - Lindy - 3/5/2007 4:50:52 AM
- I know Fascism...George W. Bush is no Fascist. - Lloyd LEE Bentsen - 3/4/2007 5:54:13 AM

US troops lead "sweep". Iraqis follow. - Bowser - 3/4/2007 7:19:18 PM
- So sorry one of Sadr's people doesn't like it. (n/t) - TB - 3/4/2007 9:24:43 PM
  - Let me help you. It's subtle. - Bowser - 3/4/2007 11:34:15 PM
    - re: Let me help you. - TB - 3/5/2007 12:31:24 AM
      - Well, I did my best. It's supposed to be mainly Iraqi, not US. - Bowser - 3/5/2007 1:12:06 AM
        
        Try broadening your sources a little. - TB - 3/5/2007 1:45:43 AM

What leftist George Soros likes in the stock market... - TB - 3/2/2007 7:28:46 AM
- As long as Bush is shovelling them money it makes sense. - Bowser - 3/3/2007 12:47:44 AM
- and my 401k .... - azstrummer - 3/2/2007 10:47:35 PM
- He also added to his holdings in the company I work for - Alan G. Archer - 3/2/2007 12:40:48 PM
  - Did he add 1.9 million shares of it? - TB - 3/2/2007 3:37:44 PM
    - I can't get the story to load. Why do you think this is significant? (n/t) - alcaray - 3/2/2007 5:00:44 PM
      - Significant? No. Amusing? Yes. - TB - 3/2/2007 11:10:43 PM
        
        Owning shares makes you "connected"? Holy smoke, I must reevaluate my portfolio! - alcaray - 3/2/2007 11:27:28 PM
        
        re: Owning shares makes you "connected"? Holy smoke, I must reevaluate my portfolio! - gbaikie - 3/3/2007 2:11:50 AM
        
        As usual, you are sort of correct (shareholders rarely if ever choose CEOs)... - alcaray - 3/3/2007 2:51:39 AM
        
        re: As usual, you are sort of correct (shareholders rarely if ever choose CEOs)... - gbaikie - 3/3/2007 7:29:21 AM
        
        Then you are a flower-child and not a capitalist at all. - alcaray - 3/4/2007 4:42:37 AM
        
        re: Then you are a flower-child and not a capitalist at all. - gbaikie - 3/4/2007 5:28:50 AM
        
        I see (n/t) - alcaray - 3/4/2007 4:52:15 PM

Ft Rucker FLYING HUEYS Still? - carl - 3/3/2007 4:05:59 PM

"Joint" US-Iraq surge. "Soldiers shift to Baghdad outposts" - Bowser - 3/2/2007 6:00:22 PM

Tragi-comical visit to a government office in Iraq - Bowser - 3/2/2007 1:25:57 AM
- Less'n 3 months after D-Day, Paris was safe for Americans. - Bowser - 3/2/2007 4:35:19 AM
  - You really need to stay away from WWII analogies. - TB - 3/2/2007 4:51:40 AM
    - Oh, TB. How soon you forget. - Bowser - 3/2/2007 5:32:01 AM
      - WWII - TB - 3/2/2007 7:23:38 AM

What their "base" thinks Democrats should be doing - TB - 3/1/2007 6:00:37 PM
- And the Conservative plan is? Besides continuing the killing instead of admitting they're wrong? (n/t) - Bowser - 3/1/2007 9:07:44 PM
  - Is this going to keep going over your head? - TB - 3/1/2007 9:31:23 PM
    - You worry so much about the Ds, instead of the mess the Cs have created. - Bowser - 3/1/2007 9:54:08 PM
      - re: You worry so much about the Ds, instead of the mess the Cs have created. - TB - 3/1/2007 10:35:28 PM
- No good deed goes unpunished. - ER - 3/1/2007 6:26:33 PM

US military cuts counter-insurgency training in rush to get 'em to Baghdad. - Bowser - 2/28/2007 1:06:30 AM
- Those counter-insurgents should have been trained before we went in - Lindy - 2/28/2007 5:59:53 PM
- Apparently Murray missed the news on the "Slow Bleed" tactic - TB - 2/28/2007 3:37:32 AM
  - Keep up - Tony - 2/28/2007 5:02:41 PM
    - If it's that simple... - TB - 2/28/2007 6:07:33 PM
      - re:Maybe this is why - SteveS - 3/1/2007 4:01:12 PM
      - Political Expediency sucks - Tony - 2/28/2007 6:16:45 PM
        
        "The Dems don't want to be accused of being 'the ones who lost the war'" - TB - 2/28/2007 6:42:01 PM
        
        re: "That incredible democracy in the US!! - Raoul - 2/28/2007 10:05:27 PM
        
        re: "That incredible democracy in the US!! - gbaikie - 3/1/2007 12:49:55 AM
        
        Since they are there, and while they are there, one has to be sure they are as well cared for as possible. - Bowser - 2/28/2007 7:31:07 PM
        
        That's their story and they're sticking to it. - TB - 2/28/2007 7:56:03 PM
        
        No. They aren't beseiged. "Reinforcements" are just more to get out of harm's way. (n/t) - Bowser - 2/28/2007 8:03:49 PM
    - The problem with the poll as I see it - FrankC - 2/28/2007 5:37:00 PM
  - I think there's a "Fantasy Foreign Policy" league out there. - Bowser - 2/28/2007 3:57:18 AM
    - "don't believe your own propaganda" - TB - 2/28/2007 6:39:44 AM
      - The butt-arrogance of Conservatives after losing a two-bit war is incredible. (n/t) - Bowser - 2/28/2007 6:17:12 PM
      - "The butt-ignorance of the press about matters military is a constant source of amusement and high frustration to those actually in the military. " - Lindy - 2/28/2007 6:10:11 PM

You're losing a war when - - - - Bowser - 3/1/2007 2:29:48 AM

Update on Democratic victory results - TB - 2/27/2007 5:09:35 PM
- Ds - "The party has no frigging idea what to do about the war in Iraq." This is tiresome. - Bowser - 2/27/2007 5:20:42 PM
  - "This is tiresome." So is your constant advocacy of totalitarianism. - TB - 2/27/2007 5:34:37 PM
    - "probably wouldn't be an Islamic movement if the Shahs were still running Iran. " - Tony - 2/27/2007 6:30:33 PM
      - Go for it. - TB - 2/27/2007 8:17:32 PM
        
        See if you can answer a simple question - Tony - 2/27/2007 9:15:47 PM
        
        Spelling it out - TB - 2/27/2007 9:51:55 PM
        
        "and until the end of the 70s, was quite effectively suppressed." - Tony - 2/27/2007 11:20:16 PM
        
        Right. - TB - 2/27/2007 11:52:27 PM
        
        re: Right. - Yeti, Seaman first class, USS Titanic. - 2/28/2007 4:31:07 PM
        
        I think the problem is defining "stability." - TB - 2/28/2007 6:30:52 PM
        
        Brass tacks: Do you actually intend to argue that the middle east is more stable now than before the Iraq Invasion? Yes or no? (n/t) - Yeti - 2/28/2007 6:46:35 PM
        
        The word you keep sticking in there is "now." - TB - 2/28/2007 7:17:35 PM
        
        Wow, talk about rhetorical nonsense. - Yeti - 2/28/2007 7:37:32 PM
        
        Bringing out the hand puppets... - TB - 2/28/2007 8:01:43 PM
        
        re: Right. - Tony - 2/28/2007 3:01:01 PM
        
        He can't. Obfuscate, impute things neither said nor implied, straw men, and change subject. - Bowser - 2/27/2007 10:02:39 PM
        
        And I've noticed that the original post has been completely derailed. - TB - 2/27/2007 9:55:08 PM
        
        Trying to clean up after a long parade of elephants ain't fun. - Bowser - 2/27/2007 10:04:27 PM
        
        No one pretends the Shah with CIA help wasn't brutal and repressive. - Bowser - 2/27/2007 8:54:55 PM
    - Shall we go down the list of totalitarian regimes Conservatives support? - Bowser - 2/27/2007 5:53:32 PM
      - Sure. Make a list. Knock yerself out. (n/t) - TB - 2/27/2007 8:12:15 PM

CYA Security - alcaray - 2/26/2007 7:20:22 PM
- True. Bureaucracies exist to not be blamed, not to perform. (n/t) - Bowser - 2/26/2007 7:51:43 PM
  - re: True. Bureaucracies exist to not be blamed, not to perform. - ER - 2/28/2007 4:43:06 PM

Just in time for Easter - ER - 2/26/2007 6:06:37 PM
- Maybe Jesus Didn't get the memo? :-) (n/t) - Yeti - 2/27/2007 12:46:47 AM
  - GOD have e-mail address? - carl - 2/27/2007 6:40:52 PM
    - Lol...yeah you can pretty much find him anywhere (n/t) - Martha - 2/28/2007 4:38:06 PM

A note on the TXU buyout - Fox - 2/27/2007 5:11:16 AM
- re: A note on the TXU buyout - REB - 2/27/2007 7:17:57 PM
- Just another example of the rich getting richer. - Brave Bear - 2/27/2007 2:45:32 PM
- "forces of the free market." - TB - 2/27/2007 6:10:16 AM
  - Whoo boy, look at the tachometer - Fox - 2/27/2007 6:54:58 PM
    - If the growth is slowed in the meantime... - TB - 2/27/2007 8:27:25 PM
  - There is practically nothing "free" about the power "market" - Tony - 2/27/2007 5:34:17 PM
    - Then don't use it as an example of the "forces of the free market." (n/t) - TB - 2/27/2007 5:39:09 PM
      - I did? Where? (n/t) - Tony - 2/27/2007 6:32:12 PM
        
        Fox's post. Good Lord. - TB - 2/27/2007 8:23:01 PM
        
        re: Fox's post. - Fox - 2/28/2007 3:16:34 AM
        
        Oh TB, to know us is to love us:):) (n/t) - Martha - 2/28/2007 1:50:23 AM
        
        All these damn liberals look the same to me........ - Tony - 2/27/2007 9:17:19 PM
        
        Its a symptom of 'broad brush' syndrome, methinks (n/t) - Yeti - 2/28/2007 3:19:51 PM

Is the Administrationâ€™s new policy benefitting our enemies in the war on terrorism? - Eric - 2/27/2007 9:48:13 PM
- Scorecard so far: Iran +++++, al-Qaeda +++++, Halliburton +++++. - Bowser - 2/28/2007 2:45:59 AM

Forever stamp - SDG - 2/27/2007 4:55:13 PM
- re:There goes stamp collecting - SteveS - 2/27/2007 10:37:59 PM
- USE e-Mails - carl - 2/27/2007 6:40:08 PM

"Security fears dogged Cheney's trip" - the bee-hive theory of security. - Bowser - 2/27/2007 5:00:37 PM
- I always saw Iraq as a hornet's nest - Lindy - 2/27/2007 6:50:55 PM
- Bowser discovers war zones are dangerous. Film at 11:00. - TB - 2/27/2007 5:14:17 PM
  - Pakistan is a war zone? Cheney can't go there announced? - Bowser - 2/27/2007 5:23:04 PM
    - Cripes, buy yourself a map. (n/t) - TB - 2/27/2007 5:35:58 PM
      - Pakistan is a war zone? Cheney can't go there announced? (n/t) - Bowser - 2/27/2007 5:54:04 PM
        
        The attack was in Afghanistan. (n/t) - TB - 2/27/2007 8:20:12 PM
        
        Pakistan is a war zone? Cheney can't go there announced? (n/t) - Bowser - 2/27/2007 9:03:07 PM
        
        Yes, Pakistan is a war zone. - TB - 2/27/2007 9:53:55 PM

Al Gore...The environmental destroyer - Brave Bear - 2/27/2007 2:37:41 PM
- I am very split on this. - REB - 2/27/2007 9:43:07 PM
- What don't you understand about the term 'global'? - a reational human being - 2/27/2007 2:51:24 PM
  - Is that you, RationaL human being???????? (n/t) - curious - 2/27/2007 4:16:32 PM
    - Nope sure was not me... (n/t) - R.L. - 2/27/2007 6:14:46 PM
      - Sounds nothing like R.L. - TB - 2/27/2007 8:47:29 PM
  - right...One man can do nothing when people like Gore consume enough for 50 of the rest of us. - Brave Bear - 2/27/2007 3:54:50 PM

Americans want out - Donald - 2/27/2007 4:23:47 AM
- ["bad misspelling" deleted at poster's request] (n/t) - Fox, Moderator - 2/27/2007 5:32:50 AM
- Gen. Pace: Military Capability Eroding - Donald - 2/27/2007 5:16:16 AM

Republicans overwhelmingly support Bush. - Bowser - 2/26/2007 8:12:10 PM
- I suppose the interesting question is, though... - Yeti - 2/26/2007 11:02:39 PM
  - Not necessarily... - ER - 2/26/2007 11:42:37 PM
    - Well... - Yeti - 2/27/2007 12:13:02 AM
      - I'm not quite sure what you mean... - ER - 2/27/2007 1:36:24 AM
        
        Actually, - ER - 2/27/2007 4:07:51 AM
        
        It's much simpler than that... - SDAI-Tech1 - 2/27/2007 2:58:11 AM

14th anniversary of WTC bombing - TB - 2/27/2007 2:59:28 AM

"Risks of tainted food rise as inspections drop." - Bowser - 2/26/2007 11:33:11 PM
- Invade! Inspections don't work! - Silly Yeti - 2/27/2007 12:45:48 AM

New democratic part initiative - Yeti - 2/25/2007 11:49:00 PM
- I hope they go for it! - Chief Warhawk - 2/26/2007 2:34:56 PM
- Fatal flaw. - Bowser - 2/26/2007 5:27:41 AM
  - There used to be one country, one man, no WMDs, no al-Qaeda haven. - Bowser - 2/26/2007 6:05:07 AM
    - Life was good for Saddam. He built Palaces with his peopleâ€™s food money and let them starve. - REB - 2/26/2007 4:28:11 PM
      - Never believe your own propaganda. - Bowser - 2/26/2007 11:21:28 PM
      - Now, tens of thousands a year are randomly blown to bits - Yeti - 2/26/2007 4:41:48 PM
        
        Bowsers is trying to argue that Saddam was a poor old innocent man you could call your friend. - REB - 2/26/2007 5:22:46 PM
        
        re: He was a friend of the US - Raoul - 2/26/2007 6:40:52 PM
        
        So was Stalin - Lee - 2/26/2007 8:13:55 PM
        
        re: Bush went to war for psychological reasons - Raoul - 2/26/2007 8:44:58 PM
        
        So was Castro. - REB - 2/26/2007 7:51:07 PM
        
        re: To hide would be a crime, but... - Raoul - 2/26/2007 8:14:51 PM
        
        Lving as a slave is usually safe. (n/t) - REB - 2/26/2007 4:55:41 PM
        
        How free are you - Yeti - 2/26/2007 7:30:30 PM
        
        Very, thank you. - REB - 2/26/2007 7:52:18 PM
        
        Cute comeback. Remarkable devoid of any substance or content, though. (n/t) - Yeti - 2/26/2007 7:58:18 PM
        
        I gave it as much though as I though it deserved. - REB - 2/26/2007 9:44:12 PM
        
        Whats the point in new material... - Yeti - 2/26/2007 10:25:09 PM
        
        Sorry, that was mean of me. - REB - 2/26/2007 9:48:08 PM
        
        re:no problem - Yeti - 2/26/2007 10:01:03 PM
        
        You should appreciate it then. - Lee - 2/26/2007 8:16:23 PM
    - "He wanted nothing more than to be left alone." - TB - 2/26/2007 6:14:56 AM
      - Broken up. "Instead of one Big Dog. Who could be managed." (n/t) - Bowser - 2/26/2007 4:25:37 PM
- re: New democratic party initiative - TB - 2/26/2007 1:59:22 AM
  - I wish the Democrats had the courage to do either this or that. - Chief Warhawk - 2/26/2007 2:38:31 PM
    - No "Chief". Brave. "Brave ChickenHawk" speaketh. Ya read it here. (n/t) - Bowser - 2/26/2007 5:17:01 PM
  - The Dems think that the American people have a short memory. - Lee - 2/26/2007 4:35:39 AM
    - Snopes.com: Words of Mass Destruction - Alan G. Archer - 2/26/2007 9:31:09 AM
      - Very Interesting. - REB - 2/26/2007 5:40:40 PM
      - Interesting. (n/t) - Bowser - 2/26/2007 5:24:25 PM
  - How would it hurt us if we pulled out now? - Lindy - 2/26/2007 4:11:52 AM
  - Disagree with just about everything you wrote - Yeti - 2/26/2007 2:20:41 AM
- err.. "Democratic Party" initiative (n/t) - Yeti - 2/25/2007 11:49:48 PM

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