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Bush wants an additional 80 billion dollars for Iraq - Eric - 12/25/2004 5:11:10 AM
- Unfortunately... - Donald - 12/25/2004 3:04:59 PM

The two former french hostages talk about their ordeal - Raoul - 12/24/2004 5:15:31 PM
- How About Some Useful information? - Mark Eby - 12/25/2004 1:19:18 AM
  - re: Hostages - Raoul - 12/25/2004 9:47:31 AM
- re: The two former french hostages talk about their ordeal - p - 12/24/2004 5:28:20 PM

GOP may challenge Wash. governor recount (I'm sure it's not "all about power".) - Bowser - 12/24/2004 5:55:48 PM
- The Dems win one out of three recounts and the Republicans should just sqy "OK" and ignore the manufactured nature of the latest 'found' ballots? Ummm, no. (n/t) - ebnelson - 12/25/2004 3:39:05 AM
  - re: 1 out of 2 recounts the first count is not a recount! Which found ballets are you speaking of? Those most recently found are by Repubs? Or the 700 found in King County which only about 150 were l… (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 12/25/2004 6:33:35 AM
- Well... - Donald - 12/24/2004 7:34:24 PM
- Democrats getting pious about politics make me yak. - Tom Brosz - 12/24/2004 6:48:09 PM
  - re: Democrats win and the Repubs whine like stuck pigs! make me yak. - Chris Vancil - 12/25/2004 12:36:19 AM
    - Dino Rossi - Donald - 12/25/2004 3:30:39 AM
      - re: Dino Rossi - Chris Vancil - 12/25/2004 3:41:04 AM
        
        re: Dino Rossi - Donald - 12/25/2004 4:01:43 AM

The U.N. continues to flaunt their higher standards of morality in foreign policy. - Tom Brosz - 12/24/2004 5:44:18 AM
- Sorta reminds one of Abu Ghraib, doesn't it? (n/t) - Bowser - 12/24/2004 6:21:59 AM
  - No - Mark Eby - 12/25/2004 3:13:09 AM
  - The difference is, the Usual Gang of Idiots will look the other way. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 12/24/2004 7:12:36 AM
    - You seen the guy who refuted the Geneva Convention indicted yet? - Bowser - 12/24/2004 5:56:54 PM
      - Do You Ever Bother With Facts? - Mark Eby - 12/25/2004 1:27:00 AM
        
        What you don't make up, you ignore. - Bowser - 12/25/2004 1:33:48 AM
        
        Making Things Up Again I See - Mark Eby - 12/25/2004 2:16:44 AM

Polls suggests support for Iraq war is slipping - Donald - 12/22/2004 1:46:53 AM
- Because - Mark Eby - 12/25/2004 2:43:29 AM
- Congratulations! The lefties have been working hard to make Iraq safe for terrorists, and may yet succeed. - ebnelson - 12/22/2004 4:45:27 AM
  - Yes you may be right - Hans - 12/22/2004 8:15:49 AM
    - re: Yes you may be right - ebnelson - 12/22/2004 7:51:38 PM
      - re: Yes you may be right - Hans - 12/23/2004 7:28:02 AM
    - Hello, Hans and welcome back to this board. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 12/22/2004 2:28:57 PM
      - re: Hello, Hans and welcome back to this board. - Hans - 12/23/2004 7:29:20 AM
  - Ed... - Donald - 12/22/2004 5:09:03 AM
    - re: Ed... - Tom Brosz - 12/22/2004 5:17:32 AM
      - Gee Tom, ........... - Publius - 12/22/2004 4:06:38 PM
      - Crepe Hanging - Lindy - 12/22/2004 7:27:32 AM
      - No, Tom, the problem is - Davin L. - 12/22/2004 5:47:02 AM
        
        No, the problem is Tom's eyes are open, and he bothers to post the facts - ebnelson - 12/23/2004 2:25:11 AM
        
        Which, in both cases, distinguishes him from yourself - Davin L. - 12/23/2004 4:08:19 AM
        
        You only wish it were so. (n/t) - ebnelson - 12/24/2004 4:15:29 AM
        
        Typical gradeschool comeback. (n/t) - Davin L. - 12/24/2004 4:36:31 PM
        
        Almost eloquent - Donald - 12/22/2004 6:50:02 AM
        
        re: Almost accurate. But not quite. - Tom Brosz - 12/22/2004 7:34:08 AM
        
        If you recall, Tom... - Donald - 12/22/2004 2:29:00 PM
        
        While Tom makes a resonable point about sanctions - Tony - 12/22/2004 5:22:19 PM
        
        re: the problem is - Tom Brosz - 12/22/2004 6:39:04 AM
        
        more later, maybe, if I have time to waste - Davin L. - 12/23/2004 4:10:11 AM
        
        I usually make it a point not to coment on your posts, being family and all, but DAMN.... that sure hit the nail on the head! - R.L. - 12/22/2004 5:56:31 AM
        
        Thanks, bro. (n/t) - Davin L. - 12/24/2004 12:49:49 AM
- No sh*t........... (n/t) - Lindy - 12/22/2004 3:44:06 AM
- Meanwhile: 1,325 - Donald - 12/22/2004 1:55:14 AM

Rumsfeld in Iraq - Tom Brosz - 12/25/2004 1:35:24 AM

Trying to kill another stupid meme - Tom Brosz - 12/24/2004 3:51:22 AM
- What we had in WWII - FrankC - 12/24/2004 5:32:39 PM
  - What we had in WWII - Gary - 12/24/2004 7:29:48 PM
    - re: What we had in WWII - phil - 12/24/2004 9:39:03 PM
    - All true... - FrankC - 12/24/2004 8:34:26 PM
- Victor Davis Hanson covers armor, preparedness, and other issues - Tom Brosz - 12/24/2004 5:55:04 AM
- Anyone who claims that our soldiers were properly equipped in WWII is either lying or terribly misinformed, or is a modern journalist. (n/t) - ebnelson - 12/24/2004 4:16:54 AM
  - re: Or talking of the otherside. (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 12/24/2004 8:58:26 AM

Christman special on "Vietnam with Sand"@copyright 2002 use - E.P. Grondine - 12/24/2004 7:47:00 PM
- "Vietnam with Sand" - Tom Brosz - 12/24/2004 8:02:43 PM
  - Too bad "American Intelligence" did not copyright it (n/t) - E.P. Grondine - 12/24/2004 9:06:48 PM

Rummy's contribution explained - Daniel - 12/24/2004 6:44:57 PM

Hot Asian Babe! - phil - 12/24/2004 3:53:12 PM

Torture reconsidered: Shock, awe and the human body - Eric - 12/24/2004 3:03:22 PM

U.S. troops clash with insurgents in Fallujah - Wednesday, December 23, 2004 - Bowser - 12/24/2004 12:20:25 PM

May you all enjoy a Merry Christmas! - Scott Evil - 12/23/2004 10:52:23 PM

ANG to resume flights after School strafe debacle - carl - 12/23/2004 10:45:20 PM

First we vote, then we kick you out - gbaikie - 12/23/2004 10:29:01 PM

From Mosul - Tom Brosz - 12/22/2004 5:53:18 AM
- re: From Mosul - Larry J - 12/22/2004 2:34:42 PM
  - Latest news now says suicide bomber. - Tom Brosz - 12/22/2004 5:57:38 PM
    - The key to victory will be the Iraqi Intelligence Service. If it suceeds, so will the rest of the new Iraqi Government. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 12/23/2004 9:40:54 PM
    - re: Latest news now says suicide bomber. - Larry J - 12/22/2004 11:40:54 PM
- Another news story... - Tom Brosz - 12/22/2004 7:38:18 AM
- Hey, lots more died on D-day, dont sweat it.... - R.L. - 12/22/2004 6:12:14 AM
  - And you are right............. - Publius - 12/23/2004 8:03:07 PM

UN porn - gbaikie - 12/23/2004 9:38:52 PM

My answers to Han's questions. - David F Mayer - 12/23/2004 8:08:26 PM
- interesting banner ad - daniel - 12/23/2004 9:35:05 PM

Quagmire Update - Donald - 12/23/2004 6:10:33 PM
- I don't know. I think "War is hell" is a bit more accurate than "war is a mess." - Tom Brosz - 12/23/2004 6:13:33 PM

RoP Update: The Netherlands - p - 12/22/2004 6:19:02 PM
- Christians behaving badly. (As with other humans, some do. Hard to believe!) - Bowser - 12/23/2004 7:58:08 AM
  - Scary stuff - Lindy - 12/23/2004 5:40:07 PM

Society, free will, and the concept of evil - LJ - 12/22/2004 5:39:16 PM
- re: Society, free will, and the concept of evil - Tom Brosz - 12/22/2004 6:16:51 PM
  - re: Example - Raoul - 12/22/2004 10:34:54 PM
  - If you don't know the difference between a Mouse and a Louse then you ...... - Publius - 12/22/2004 9:38:19 PM
    - Of Mice and Lice (not to be confused with Steinbeck's Of Lice and Len) - LJ - 12/22/2004 11:12:03 PM
      - re: Choices - Tom Brosz - 12/22/2004 11:59:05 PM

And one last bit on the armor flap... - Tom Brosz - 12/18/2004 6:05:05 AM
- Okay, a bit more. - Tom Brosz - 12/20/2004 1:21:51 AM
- From here on out, I don't want to hear anything further from you about 'The Troops' - Davin L. - 12/18/2004 6:31:01 PM
  - re: From here on out - Tom Brosz - 12/18/2004 7:07:21 PM
    - There you go, Tom: answering lefty hot air with facts. - ebnelson - 12/19/2004 6:23:11 AM
      - Hey Tom, you like this jerk off on your side? - R.L. - 12/21/2004 11:39:23 AM
        
        BTW - Tom Brosz - 12/21/2004 8:32:57 PM
        
        You want my opinions, read my posts. You don't like the others, don't read them. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 12/21/2004 8:14:25 PM
      - wow. Irony is completely lost on you. (n/t) - Davin L. - 12/19/2004 7:08:53 PM
        
        Yeah, you can use all the irony you want and you'll never get Ed's wrinkles out (n/t) - LJ - 12/19/2004 7:25:39 PM
    - Despite your spin of the event - Davin L. - 12/18/2004 8:58:49 PM
      - re: Despite your spin of the event - Tom Brosz - 12/18/2004 9:27:49 PM
    - And just so you don't strain yourself... - Tom Brosz - 12/18/2004 7:15:34 PM
      - The slides for the presentation - Tom Brosz - 12/18/2004 7:19:07 PM
- And they qualify---must be part of Homeland Security - Publius - 12/18/2004 3:44:19 PM
  - Hummers as a business write-off? - Lindy - 12/19/2004 7:46:25 AM
  - So, I show the entire flap was largely baseless, and that's your comeback? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 12/18/2004 5:23:41 PM
    - You showed nothing--you merely found an apologist to get the spin that reinforced this admin..... (n/t) - Publius - 12/18/2004 6:44:19 PM
      - Yeah, what the hell would the Defense Department know about it? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 12/18/2004 6:54:36 PM
        
        Enough to know their jobs are on the line if they come up with the wrong answer. - Mary Anne - 12/19/2004 4:32:05 PM
        
        Shot at - Tom Brosz - 12/19/2004 10:32:42 PM
        
        Being shot at is being in the wrong place at the right time...... - Publius - 12/20/2004 3:26:09 PM
        
        re: Being shot at - Tom Brosz - 12/20/2004 6:52:16 PM
        
        And war is always about the failure of the political process.......... (n/t) - Publius - 12/21/2004 1:46:39 PM
        
        I'd like to think you're too intelligent for crappy cliches like that. - Tom Brosz - 12/21/2004 7:13:52 PM
        
        Definitely intellegent enough to recognize....... - Publius - 12/22/2004 12:16:57 AM
        
        When someone jumps out from behind a tree... the system has failed already (n/t) - LJ - 12/21/2004 7:40:54 PM
        
        Yeah. The "system" is responsible for criminal behavior. I wonder where you picked that idea up. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 12/21/2004 8:15:15 PM
        
        OK, give me a situation where someone commits a crime and there is no failure of "the system" at all involved - LJ - 12/21/2004 9:48:41 PM
        
        I'm sorry, we seem to be operating on completely different wavelengths. - Tom Brosz - 12/21/2004 11:39:14 PM
        
        please post links - Lindy - 12/22/2004 8:21:55 AM
        
        re: links - Tom Brosz - 12/22/2004 6:24:40 PM

"Glimmers of Hope in the Arab World" - Tom Brosz - 12/21/2004 11:49:19 PM
- I truly hope the possibility of a secular government exists...... (n/t) - Publius - 12/22/2004 12:46:03 AM
  - Dream on - Lindy - 12/22/2004 3:46:37 AM
    - Like Germany, Japan, Italy, ... Phooey. Sometimes war is the ONLY way to abolish tyranny. It has worked before. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 12/22/2004 6:12:38 PM
    - Sp: "liberation" - Lindy - 12/22/2004 3:48:11 AM

Nigeria chosen to host 2008 Genocides - David F Mayer - 12/22/2004 2:34:33 PM
- It could have been worse, it could have been Sudan. (n/t) - Jacob Samorodin - 12/22/2004 3:21:09 PM
  - Sudan has them THIS year. It would not be fair for one country to have them twice in a row. (n/t) - DFM - 12/22/2004 5:46:38 PM

With all the talk about "democracy"............... - Publius - 12/21/2004 2:26:55 PM
- re: democracy - Tom Brosz - 12/21/2004 6:48:57 PM
- Screwtape - jms - 12/21/2004 3:46:29 PM
  - Happy Festivus ......................... (n/t) - Publius - 12/21/2004 6:29:47 PM
    - Looking forward to the airing of grievances? ;-> (n/t) - jms - 12/21/2004 9:53:46 PM
      - Yes, and dancing around that erect aluminum pole sends a message......... (n/t) - Publius - 12/22/2004 4:09:33 PM
  - re: Screwtape - LJ - 12/21/2004 5:00:46 PM
    - re: Screwtape - LJ - 12/21/2004 5:08:35 PM
- We've been duped... - Eric - 12/21/2004 2:52:15 PM

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