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Does anybody know of a list of Iraq attacks by terrorists listed by date? (n/t) - David F Mayer - 12/19/2004 2:12:23 AM
- Another possible source... - Tom Brosz - 12/21/2004 7:00:43 AM
- A useful answer - Tom Brosz - 12/19/2004 3:53:34 AM
  - However, Shock and Awe among civilians, including children, is terrorism (n/t) - Bowser - 12/20/2004 6:00:43 AM
    - terrorism - Tom Brosz - 12/20/2004 7:06:21 PM
      - Uno momento, senor........... - Publius - 12/21/2004 2:35:26 PM
        
        I don't think so. - Tom Brosz - 12/21/2004 8:13:14 PM
        
        Prefacing with definition - Lindy - 12/22/2004 8:11:02 AM
        
        re: I don't think so. - Publius - 12/22/2004 12:00:09 AM
  - I was interested SPECIFICALLY in Iraq, day by day. - David F Mayer - 12/19/2004 5:05:37 AM
    - Terrorist incidents - Gary - 12/19/2004 6:09:16 PM
      - The number of attacks on the military have dropped sharply. - Tom Brosz - 12/19/2004 10:20:20 PM
- Started with "Shock and Awe", and has continued since. (n/t) - Bowser - 12/19/2004 3:18:16 AM

President Bush signed order to allow torture, says ACLU - Eric - 12/21/2004 5:07:38 PM
- NEWS AT 11PM (n/t) - CBS Anchormen - 12/22/2004 7:29:08 AM
- Anyone listening to his State of the Union Address..... - Lindy - 12/22/2004 4:06:26 AM
- Is that the same ACLU who wants to remove Christ from Christmas? - Scott Evil - 12/21/2004 5:43:05 PM
  - What's the problem, man? - Lindy - 12/22/2004 4:02:16 AM
  - And got the Nazi's permits to march in Skokie, and came to Rush Limburgers aid.... (n/t) - Publius - 12/22/2004 12:49:19 AM
  - So you think it's OK to put lit cigarettes in people's ears as part of questioning? - Mary Anne - 12/21/2004 6:11:19 PM
    - Which end of the cigarette? (n/t) - ebnelson - 12/21/2004 7:29:31 PM
      - You here all week too? (n/t) - Tony - 12/21/2004 7:32:27 PM
        
        re: You here all week too?? (n/t) - ebnelson - 12/22/2004 4:46:55 AM
    - Put the words ACLU and torture in a sentence and Scott will scream about the ACLU. (n/t) - alcaray - 12/21/2004 7:17:43 PM
    - A link to the original documents.... - Tom Brosz - 12/21/2004 6:58:46 PM

Attack on U.S. Base in Iraq Leaves 24 Dead - Donald - 12/21/2004 8:16:39 PM
- The enemy finally got a lucky shot in. - Tom Brosz - 12/21/2004 8:18:53 PM
  - Tell that to... - Donald - 12/21/2004 8:45:34 PM
    - re: Tell that to... - Tom Brosz - 12/21/2004 9:03:30 PM
      - "Major battles...cutting and running" - Lindy - 12/22/2004 3:56:37 AM
      - Uh...Tom - Donald - 12/22/2004 1:30:45 AM
        
        Oh, now the tents aren't armored? Is that going to be the story? - Tom Brosz - 12/22/2004 5:14:05 AM
        
        Oh, the bravery of the Mighty Chickenhawk! - Bowser - 12/22/2004 6:45:44 AM
        
        Agreed............ - Lindy - 12/22/2004 3:59:01 AM
  - Early stories mentioned rocket and mortar attacks... - Tom Brosz - 12/21/2004 8:41:34 PM
- 1,319 - Donald - 12/21/2004 8:18:07 PM

Saddam's defense team - Tom Brosz - 12/21/2004 11:30:53 PM

Washington canâ€™t afford another vote like this - Donald - 12/19/2004 4:47:23 PM
- Yes, 'found ballots', selective recounts, continuous recounts, and voter intimidation by democrats should be rejected, as it was in Florida. (n/t) - ebnelson - 12/20/2004 1:59:34 PM
- re: Washington canâ€™t afford another vote like this - Tom Brosz - 12/19/2004 10:16:33 PM
  - re: Washington canâ€™t afford another vote like this - Chris Vancil - 12/20/2004 11:01:54 AM
    - The original article quoted a Democratic election official on this procedure. - Tom Brosz - 12/20/2004 6:42:23 PM
      - re: The original article quoted a Democratic election official on this procedure. - Chris Vancil - 12/20/2004 10:14:50 PM
        
        Ah. The communications assistant for the campaign was making it all up. Okay. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 12/20/2004 11:06:42 PM
        
        re:I live here you don't. I talked to people who did the driving to the houses and knocked on doors and a couple who had doors knocked on. - Chris Vancil - 12/21/2004 9:24:22 PM
    - What kind of work does a 'liberation' do? (n/t) - ebnelson - 12/20/2004 2:00:23 PM
      - makes you feel free (n/t) - alcaray - 12/21/2004 10:37:48 PM
      - I didn't check what my spell check corrected to...for small minds it was Libertarian (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 12/20/2004 10:17:13 PM
        
        As a spelling challenged person, I understand comletely. (n/t) - ebnelson - 12/21/2004 2:40:05 AM

A great christmas gift for 2 french families - Raoul - 12/21/2004 7:05:57 PM

Bush-Times Man of the Year - SteveS - 12/19/2004 4:26:41 PM
- tsk, tsk, yet another example of the "Liberal Media"....... (n/t) - Publius - 12/21/2004 1:58:28 PM
  - It's a One person vote, the publisher (n/t) - SteveS - 12/21/2004 2:13:35 PM
- And also, Blog of the Year! - Tom Brosz - 12/20/2004 1:39:43 AM
- The Time article - Tom Brosz - 12/20/2004 1:36:33 AM
- re: What, Me Worry? - mad - 12/19/2004 4:42:20 PM
  - It's got to be tough... - SteveS - 12/19/2004 10:01:53 PM
    - The complete list of Time Magazine's Person of the Year... - Mary Anne - 12/20/2004 2:38:57 PM
      - Kinda like the peace prize - SteveS - 12/21/2004 12:24:06 AM
        
        No. Money comes with the Peace Prize. (n/t) - Mary Anne - 12/21/2004 6:12:53 PM

With all the gratuitis 'talk' about Iraq on this page this year, I have a question. - Jacob Samorodin - 12/21/2004 4:40:23 PM
- They have sold their oil. Dunno if we bought any. - alcaray - 12/21/2004 5:37:08 PM

Good News from Iraq, Part 17 - Tom Brosz - 12/20/2004 7:29:28 PM
- Very good news, indeed. Candide writing for DoD is a coup. (n/t) - Bowser - 12/20/2004 9:47:38 PM
  - Didn't read one bloody word of it, did you? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 12/20/2004 11:05:02 PM
    - Of course I did. But, that's how you deflect. And those "elections" are a farce except to the puppets and their masters. - Bowser - 12/21/2004 4:44:53 AM
      - Just like in Afghanistan, right? - ebnelson - 12/21/2004 4:54:26 PM
    - Bowser does not read anything that might conflict with his preconceived opinion. - David F Mayer - 12/21/2004 12:00:48 AM
      - It's a liberal thing..... (n/t) - Gary - 12/21/2004 4:25:46 AM
        
        What is? (n/t) - Bowser - 12/21/2004 4:45:48 AM

1,306 - Donald - 12/21/2004 1:35:42 AM
- Sadly another 22 - Eric - 12/21/2004 4:45:57 PM

Terrorists Stike French Hospital - David F Mayer - 12/19/2004 9:35:46 PM
- Yep. Saddam Houssein himself organized and planned the attck, with the help of the Yeti to eat all evidence of his partcipation (n/t) - Davin L. - 12/20/2004 8:43:49 PM
  - I did not say who planned it or carried it out. I was struck by the similarity in MO with the Al Qaeda atrocities in Iraq. - David F Mayer - 12/20/2004 9:48:23 PM
    - Aside from the term 'Terrorists', you mean? - Davin L. - 12/20/2004 10:58:36 PM
      - Modus operandi was the same as Al Qaeda. (n/t) - DFM - 12/21/2004 12:02:41 AM
        
        Okay, David. You are objective, open minded and entirely bloodless, objective and balanced in your perceptions. - Davin L. - 12/21/2004 3:00:57 AM
  - (The proof, of course, is the absence of evidence and the inevitable refusal of 'old Europe' to agree with the hypothesis.) (n/t) - Davin L. - 12/20/2004 8:59:38 PM
- You are part of the problem, not part of the solution..... - Publius - 12/20/2004 3:07:28 PM
  - Perpetrators are not known as yet. I did jump the gun, based on the MO. Perhaps just a random nutcase. Perhaps Al Qaeda. If you have more recent news, please post it. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 12/20/2004 5:32:45 PM
    - Jumping to conclusions... - Tom Brosz - 12/20/2004 6:19:59 PM
      - Sir William would be proud............. - Publius - 12/21/2004 1:44:02 PM
- Truely sad - SteveS - 12/19/2004 10:11:44 PM

While I'm on a roll, points for Hollywood liberals! - Tom Brosz - 12/18/2004 5:26:20 AM
- More on the USO show - Tom Brosz - 12/20/2004 9:34:20 PM

Xcel Energy's threat to residential photovoltaic systems. - a rather upset ~jms~ - 12/17/2004 5:04:42 AM
- Update - jms - 12/19/2004 4:02:57 AM
  - Damn...I was hoping you were gonna organize a ski in...Er...I mean sit in...That we could participate in. (n/t) - Scott Evil - 12/20/2004 2:40:06 PM
  - It's good to relax. - Mary Anne - 12/19/2004 9:51:55 PM
  - Thanks! Keep us posted on further developments. - Tom Brosz - 12/19/2004 4:11:17 AM
- That is a bad deal and a blatant attempt to end run the law - ebnelson - 12/17/2004 7:23:24 PM
- Man, you got us fired up! (n/t) - alcaray - 12/17/2004 6:52:22 PM
  - Yeah, cool to see everyone pulling in the same direction for a change! (n/t) - LJ - 12/17/2004 7:07:13 PM
    - Can't we all just get along? - Tony - 12/17/2004 8:01:49 PM
- BTW... - Tom Brosz - 12/17/2004 5:40:08 PM
  - net-metering changes are a small part of that docket - jms - 12/17/2004 6:19:10 PM
- A good letter to the commissioners, but not for the public. - Mary Anne - 12/17/2004 5:02:08 PM
  - And do your local TV news shows have consumer reports, - alcaray - 12/17/2004 5:57:38 PM
    - Yes! Radio too. - Mary Anne - 12/17/2004 6:25:14 PM
      - I once had a problem with a utility - alcaray - 12/17/2004 6:50:39 PM
  - Excellent suggestions - jms - 12/17/2004 5:48:04 PM
  - Contact some university activists too. - Mary Anne - 12/17/2004 5:28:15 PM
    - Activists - Tom Brosz - 12/17/2004 5:42:38 PM
      - Activists - jms - 12/17/2004 6:27:01 PM
        
        If there were more like you, and less gas-fired power stations - Tony - 12/17/2004 7:59:52 PM
- Good luck - LJ - 12/17/2004 4:57:47 PM
  - Luck will have very little to do with it. - Mary Anne - 12/17/2004 5:12:10 PM
    - re: Luck will have very little to do with it. - LJ - 12/17/2004 6:19:28 PM
      - Sorry. - Mary Anne - 12/17/2004 6:31:47 PM
- Under other circumstances, it would be almost "bait and switch." - Tom Brosz - 12/17/2004 4:53:46 PM
  - The problem with that is that it will still enable the power company to discourage others from producing their own power. - Scott Evil - 12/17/2004 7:02:06 PM
  - Compromise, shmompromise - Mary Anne - 12/17/2004 5:33:36 PM
    - "I say go for the win." - Tom Brosz - 12/17/2004 5:44:03 PM
      - LOL! I'm not even going to fight with you. - Mary Anne - 12/17/2004 5:46:52 PM
- Go get 'em! - Fox - 12/17/2004 4:34:09 PM
  - newspapers - jms - 12/17/2004 5:52:10 PM
    - I think they're busy distributing New Testaments this weekend, anyway... (n/t) - Fox - 12/19/2004 12:52:33 AM
      - can't compete with that, it's a bestseller! - jms - 12/19/2004 1:17:52 AM
        
        re: waiting 'til after the holidays - Fox - 12/19/2004 2:56:53 PM
- re: It sounds like they are trying to get around the rules concerning net metering... - Scott Evil - 12/17/2004 4:23:34 PM
  - what happens if we make more than we use - jms - 12/17/2004 5:59:38 PM
    - Thanks. That's really interesting. - Scott Evil - 12/17/2004 6:50:55 PM
      - P.S. There is another alternative comprimise - Scott Evil - 12/17/2004 7:19:53 PM
  - Not "get around": "change". By regulation, because public opinion, once aroused, would never support it. grrr (n/t) - Mary Anne - 12/17/2004 5:15:37 PM
- my solution. - Jack Herer - 12/17/2004 3:22:40 PM
  - batteries - jms - 12/17/2004 6:06:14 PM
    - Leaving the grid - Tom Brosz - 12/17/2004 8:36:42 PM
      - multiple systems - jms - 12/17/2004 9:36:51 PM
        
        Have you experienced any noticable decline in your PV energy output as the system ages? - Scott Evil - 12/17/2004 10:26:03 PM
        
        not really - jms - 12/17/2004 11:04:29 PM
        
        Thanks for the interesting info. Its good to hear that they are holding up well. - Scott Evil - 12/20/2004 2:34:56 PM
        
        Current warrenty is 25 years. (n/t) - sean - 12/18/2004 1:41:10 PM
        
        re: multiple systems - Tom Brosz - 12/17/2004 10:17:15 PM
        
        pulse furnace - jms - 12/17/2004 10:53:46 PM
  - It's a political problem, Jack. - Mary Anne - 12/17/2004 4:00:48 PM
    - re: It's a political problem, Jack. - p - 12/17/2004 4:20:59 PM
      - How am I supposed to argue with you - Tony - 12/17/2004 5:00:21 PM

60th anniversary of the start of the Battle of the Bulge - Tom Brosz - 12/16/2004 9:10:43 PM
- One more article on this anniversary... - Tom Brosz - 12/20/2004 4:25:24 AM
- And now, from the Alternate Universe... - Tom Brosz - 12/17/2004 4:37:37 AM
- "Sixty years ago at dawn" - Tom Brosz - 12/17/2004 3:00:57 AM
- Are you getting personal here?....................... (n/t) - Publius - 12/16/2004 10:29:29 PM
  - Don't know. You a WWII veteran? - Tom Brosz - 12/17/2004 12:29:56 AM
    - The reference was to waist lines----not other wars.......... (n/t) - Publius - 12/17/2004 2:08:26 AM
      - Ah, yes. I offered up my sword in that war years ago. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 12/17/2004 2:29:38 AM
        
        Burger Eating Surrender Monkey Alert!!! (n/t) - Tony - 12/17/2004 7:55:18 PM
        
        Don't put cheese on them though. I am trying to cut back on Freedom Fries... (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 12/17/2004 7:58:19 PM
        
        Speaking of calories, cheese and fries, anyone here familiar with poutine? (n/t) - LJ - 12/17/2004 10:40:37 PM
- re: 60th anniversary of the start of the Battle of the Bulge - Raoul - 12/16/2004 9:58:29 PM

Colorado Springs Gazette to include New Testament as insert in Sunday's paper. - jms - 12/18/2004 7:33:19 PM
- If you have a hardcopy of the paper... - Larry J - 12/19/2004 8:47:24 PM
  - cyber only - jms - 12/19/2004 11:26:23 PM
- Super!!! The neocon "Christians" haven't read the New Testament. Or even what Christ said. - Bowser - 12/18/2004 10:37:41 PM
  - In your feeble fantasy. - ebnelson - 12/19/2004 6:17:23 AM
  - Well, that certainly shows up your attitude, I suppose - Daniel - 12/19/2004 12:38:19 AM
    - Absolutely don't blame you for being afraid of a dialogue on this. Good move. (n/t) - Bowser - 12/19/2004 3:19:18 AM
      - yeah - just like I'd be 'afraid of a dialogue' with Clifford Irving (n/t) - Daniel - 12/19/2004 4:29:49 AM
        
        (correction: David Irving) - Daniel - 12/19/2004 1:46:57 PM

"It's about freakin' time," indeed - Tom Brosz - 12/17/2004 2:22:08 AM
- Apparently not - Alan G. Archer - 12/19/2004 7:33:08 PM

Aziz is singing like a canary... - Tom Brosz - 12/18/2004 6:10:15 AM
- Weasels - Lindy - 12/18/2004 5:38:09 PM
  - re: Weasels - Tom Brosz - 12/18/2004 5:51:24 PM
    - Front page news - Lindy - 12/18/2004 6:06:25 PM
- re: For whom? - Raoul - 12/18/2004 12:05:20 PM
  - As I see it, weasels can come in all nationalities, including U.S. - Tom Brosz - 12/18/2004 5:26:51 PM
    - re: Who takes the decision? - Raoul - 12/19/2004 10:09:10 AM
- Torture you for a year, and what would you say? - Bowser - 12/18/2004 6:56:25 AM
  - He tortured people and murdered them by the hundreds of thousands. So he gets some back. So what? (n/t) - David F Mayer - 12/19/2004 1:27:03 AM
  - His information is going to be only one part of the investigation process. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 12/18/2004 5:49:44 PM
  - Perhaps this is projection on your part. - ebnelson - 12/18/2004 1:52:39 PM
    - AZIZ being primed to run Iran as an American backed stooge (n/t) - Details at 11 - 12/18/2004 5:41:01 PM
      - Tariq Aziz, a Christian Arab and backer of Sunnis, running the largest Shiite nation, and non-Arabic at that? - ebnelson - 12/19/2004 6:19:31 AM

The struggle continues - Fox - 12/15/2004 12:24:22 AM
- Maybe they'll have a "science" fair - jms - 12/19/2004 1:34:03 AM
  - That's a hoot. - Tom Brosz - 12/19/2004 4:31:38 AM
- "struggle?" - Tom Brosz - 12/15/2004 1:54:38 AM
  - Pumping "sh*t" down childrens'throats? - Lindy - 12/16/2004 3:47:06 PM
    - Gotta admit, I can't disagree with that statement. - Tom Brosz - 12/16/2004 6:23:52 PM
  - Don't these folks worry about their kids becoming Applewhiteians or Raelians or whatever? - alcaray - 12/16/2004 12:21:22 AM
  - Speaking of education - ebnelson - 12/15/2004 3:46:48 PM
    - I would suggest Bob Jones University is an appropriate choice............. (n/t) - Publius - 12/17/2004 2:28:46 AM
      - Maybe for your kids? - ebnelson - 12/17/2004 10:44:05 PM
  - and to the point - Davin L. - 12/15/2004 3:26:34 PM
    - You ask........ - Publius - 12/17/2004 10:54:24 PM
  - re: "struggle?" - Davin L. - 12/15/2004 1:46:42 PM
    - Jeez that felt good! (n/t) - alcaray - 12/18/2004 1:00:24 AM
      - Probably what they feel like when they listen to Rush or ORiley. - alcaray - 12/18/2004 1:02:08 AM
    - ROTFLMAO - Lindy - 12/16/2004 3:50:07 PM
    - Oh, and PS (and help me out, Fox, Tony, Alcary, Mary Anne- I only have a limited memory) - Davin L. - 12/15/2004 2:53:15 PM
      - Add everything that appeared below since I was last here, and I'd say it was well covered. (n/t) - Fox - 12/16/2004 4:38:27 AM
      - re: That countries with borders are sovereign, is a meaningless notion - Raoul - 12/15/2004 10:27:27 PM
      - Only line I'm waiting for now is "Laugh it up hairballs" ;-) (n/t) - Tony - 12/15/2004 9:59:08 PM
        
        Or howabout: "That Space-Alien UFOlogy reasoning tecniques apply to decisions regarding war and national security" (n/t) - Davin L. - 12/15/2004 11:22:55 PM
      - That slippery slopes only exist for gun control and creeping socialism - Tony - 12/15/2004 8:29:54 PM
        
        That human life begins at conception, despite the underdetermination, and upon that faith-based assertion or opinion, laws should be passed that make everyone act accordingly (n/t) - Davin L. - 12/15/2004 8:54:19 PM
      - that Republicans are desperate for careers in teaching the humanities, but the liberals won't let them. (n/t) - alcaray - 12/15/2004 6:52:48 PM
        
        LOL!!!! (n/t) - Davin L. - 12/15/2004 6:58:05 PM
      - re: Oh, and PS - Tom Brosz - 12/15/2004 6:38:14 PM
        
        You have to expand the scope to the entire "left" over an entire century to match - alcaray\ - 12/15/2004 6:51:29 PM
        
        You think this is just about Bush? - Tom Brosz - 12/15/2004 7:07:40 PM
        
        I remember talking to someone who asserted that FDR was going to be the end of the world. - Mary Anne - 12/15/2004 9:37:48 PM
        
        It would be interesting to write an alternate history about what would have happened if Roosevelt had not died in 1945. - Tom Brosz - 12/15/2004 11:33:55 PM
        
        Interesting - but no less a fantasy than all your other lines. (n/t) - LJ - 12/16/2004 12:20:39 AM
        
        Whatever. To argue against fantasy counterfactuals requires I rejoin with other fantasies. Then we get into an argument about imagined events. Its like a sandbox argument about 'Spiderman could kick… - Davin L. - 12/15/2004 8:42:14 PM
        
        Sometimes figuring out what might have been is fantasy. - Tom Brosz - 12/15/2004 11:58:30 PM
        
        and you are arguing fantasy - Davin L. - 12/16/2004 1:45:04 AM
        
        The boy has had a lot of 10th times lately---perhaps it's the hundredth monkey effect? (n/t) - Publius - 12/17/2004 2:32:55 AM
        
        But I'm right about Iraq and the Gulf War, aren't I? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 12/16/2004 1:57:14 AM
        
        What part of: 'not going to indulge in faulty reasoniong' is not clear? (n/t) - Davin L. - 12/16/2004 3:06:24 PM
        
        Forget it. - Tom Brosz - 12/16/2004 6:17:15 PM
        
        Its fine with me, Tom, If you 'take your toys and go home' on this one. (n/t) - Davin L. - 12/16/2004 6:33:23 PM
        
        I think Davis post was about very recent history. And that you are going insanely far afield to match it. (n/t) - alcaray - 12/15/2004 7:39:37 PM
        
        Jeez, Davis who? Sorry Davin! Further, Tom... - alcaray - 12/15/2004 7:41:21 PM
        
        No problem, al. You can call me Davis if you have to... - Davin L. - 12/16/2004 3:45:22 PM
        
        HZone in general: ulktimately the litany of error speaks for itself. You can argue these individually until you are blue in the face, but at some point you have to see that its a hionking huge FORRES… (n/t) - Davin L. - 12/15/2004 6:57:27 PM
        
        Political argument is like a box of chocolates... - Tom Brosz - 12/15/2004 8:21:55 PM
        
        But what about 'Tasty Spring Surprise'!? - Davin L. - 12/15/2004 8:32:45 PM
      - You want to take me on on missile defense, you'd better pack a lunch. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 12/15/2004 6:33:58 PM
        
        After the abort today, *you'd* better pack a bag . . . - Fox - 12/16/2004 4:35:46 AM
        
        So. Do YOU know what happened? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 12/16/2004 5:45:54 AM
        
        Not precisely, of course -- but I know what *didn't* happen. - Fox - 12/17/2004 2:44:06 AM
        
        Launch warning - Tom Brosz - 12/17/2004 5:52:28 AM
        
        How'd we get from anti-evolutionists to antimissle systems? - Fox - 12/17/2004 4:16:40 PM
        
        antimissile systems - Tom Brosz - 12/17/2004 5:23:18 PM
        
        Good response - thanks for a clear-headed discussion (n/t) - Fox - 12/18/2004 1:29:33 AM
        
        I do prefer them, on the whole. - Tom Brosz - 12/18/2004 2:45:34 AM
        
        You are painting yourself as the expert, why are you asking Fox? (n/t) - Davin L. - 12/16/2004 4:54:43 PM
      - LOL! Your memory appears fine to me! - Mary Anne - 12/15/2004 6:19:48 PM
        
        Ah! But wait! theres more! (thanks MA) - Davin L. - 12/15/2004 6:55:47 PM
      - Bravo, sir! (n/t) - LJ - 12/15/2004 5:10:20 PM
        
        That Fox News is fair and balanced! (n/t) - Davin L. - 12/15/2004 5:41:30 PM
        
        That O'Reilly is not a conservative - Tony - 12/15/2004 7:17:08 PM
        
        re: That O'Reilly is not a conservative - gbaikie - 12/15/2004 10:51:21 PM
        
        My god, half baked, your right! (Also called: You MIght Be A Nihilist) - Davin L. - 12/15/2004 11:36:38 PM
        
        Move over Jeff Foxworthy - Tony - 12/16/2004 5:04:39 PM
        
        Speaking as a red-neck with taste and sophistication - Davin L. - 12/16/2004 5:20:36 PM
        
        That someone who has spent their entire career ridiculing drug addicts and suggesting Bad Things be done to them should be listened to when it turns out he was a pill-popping Oxytute (n/t) - Davin L. - 12/15/2004 7:28:01 PM
      - Just one thing you missed - Tony - 12/15/2004 3:36:53 PM
        
        Oh, and another: - Davin L. - 12/15/2004 4:19:03 PM
  - re: "the spectre of superstition" - Fox - 12/15/2004 4:33:29 AM
    - re: "the spectre of superstition" - gbaikie - 12/15/2004 8:43:11 AM
      - A link to the first draft of the KS standards document was provided. - Mary Anne - 12/15/2004 2:56:22 PM
        
        re: A link to the first draft of the KS standards document was provided. - gbaikie - 12/15/2004 10:22:30 PM
        
        Full of sound and fury - Mary Anne - 12/16/2004 2:18:35 AM
        
        re: Full of sound and fury - gbaikie - 12/16/2004 4:45:26 AM
        
        Once more, with the html tags corrected - Mary Anne - 12/16/2004 2:26:47 AM
        
        MA, that was one of the best posts I have ever read on the Zone. - Davin L. - 12/16/2004 3:36:48 PM
        
        re: Once more, with the html tags corrected - gbaikie - 12/16/2004 5:02:32 AM

The election in Washington state. By any means necessary... - Tom Brosz - 12/17/2004 10:07:40 PM
- R tradition. Limit voting rights, cherry-pick ballots, scream victory. (n/t) - Bowser - 12/18/2004 8:42:37 AM
  - Geez, Bowser, who's cherry-picking ballots here? - Tom Brosz - 12/18/2004 5:36:36 PM
  - "Cherry picking" vs picking through the trash. (n/t) - RobVG - 12/18/2004 5:12:18 PM
    - Sums it up. - RobVG - 12/18/2004 5:21:18 PM
      - For those in need of the caption... - RobVG - 12/18/2004 5:48:05 PM
  - More Bowser projection. (n/t) - ebnelson - 12/18/2004 1:53:27 PM
- Hype - Donald - 12/18/2004 2:44:22 AM
  - Read the links in the article. - Tom Brosz - 12/18/2004 5:41:25 AM
    - Sounds like the dems are committing major voter fraud in vilating the privacy of the vote. - ebnelson - 12/18/2004 5:57:09 AM
  - re: Hype - Tom Brosz - 12/18/2004 4:36:22 AM
    - re: Hype - Chris Vancil - 12/18/2004 5:15:05 AM
      - If the Republicans were "finding" this many new ballots in Republican districts, you'd be spitting tacks. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 12/18/2004 5:36:16 AM
        
        re: No! I would not and you are clueless! - Chris Vancil - 12/19/2004 3:08:14 AM
- re: The election in Washington state. By any means necessary... - Chris Vancil - 12/17/2004 11:23:04 PM
  - Let it be.... - Peter Bruener - 12/18/2004 6:14:48 AM
  - This warms my heart...Merry Christmas! - Peter Bruener - 12/18/2004 4:43:22 AM
  - Cheese with that whine? (n/t) - p - 12/18/2004 12:37:34 AM
    - re: No tahnks, the repubs are bring the whine? (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 12/18/2004 1:24:23 AM
- 'Finding' ballots...weeks after the election in a democratic controlled county. - ebnelson - 12/17/2004 10:47:08 PM

Coalition of the Shilling - LJ - 12/16/2004 5:18:44 PM
- re: Coalition - Tom Brosz - 12/16/2004 6:10:49 PM
  - Yes, but there might be something there.......... - Publius - 12/17/2004 2:16:09 AM
    - Private sponsorship for the "War on Terrorism"? - Lindy - 12/17/2004 6:25:32 AM
      - No doubt Cheney......... - Publius - 12/17/2004 10:46:51 PM
        
        Privatizing War - Lindy - 12/18/2004 5:59:50 PM

1,304 - Donald - 12/18/2004 2:16:00 AM
- "Freedom isn't free, it's priceless" - Tom Brosz - 12/18/2004 5:21:39 PM

Rummy lying about vehicle armor. Senator wants answers. - Eric - 12/18/2004 2:31:51 PM

More points for France and that bridge - Tom Brosz - 12/18/2004 4:40:17 AM
- Earthquake issues - Gary - 12/18/2004 6:49:30 AM

Numbers on reducing CO2 output - Tom Brosz - 12/17/2004 12:34:36 AM
- re: Numbers on reducing CO2 output - gbaikie - 12/17/2004 11:04:28 PM
  - Kyoto needs to outlaw volcanos - ebnelson - 12/18/2004 5:43:13 AM
- TCS - You've got to be kidding. - treason - 12/17/2004 1:04:43 AM
  - Hi. Nice to know you're no longer restricted to the Flame board....... (n/t) - Tony - 12/17/2004 6:03:23 PM
  - Did you read my post or someone else's? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 12/17/2004 1:20:56 AM
    - re: We are in serious trouble. - treason - 12/17/2004 1:37:39 AM
      - re: We are in serious trouble. - ebnelson - 12/17/2004 4:01:14 AM
        
        re: We are in serious trouble. - treason - 12/17/2004 7:44:05 AM
        
        re: We are in serious trouble. - Lindy - 12/18/2004 3:57:31 AM
        
        Your credibility is well established so quickly - ebnelson - 12/17/2004 1:01:57 PM
        
        re: eb vs. science - treason - 12/17/2004 5:32:28 PM
        
        I go with science, treason - ebnelson - 12/17/2004 7:24:54 PM
      - Don't fret Henny Penny, the sun will still come up tomorrow. (n/t) - Lee - 12/17/2004 3:08:10 AM
        
        Who are we supposed to believe? - treason - 12/17/2004 11:39:56 AM
        
        Thanks for the link, hadn't read that interview (n/t) - McFly - 12/17/2004 3:51:59 PM
        
        Certainly not you. Did you even read the article? - ebnelson - 12/17/2004 1:04:27 PM
        
        You're talking to yourself again ... - treason - 12/17/2004 5:34:31 PM
        
        You are in manic mode - ebnelson - 12/17/2004 7:25:51 PM
      - Well, get right on it. - Tom Brosz - 12/17/2004 2:00:55 AM
        
        re: I am on it. - treason - 12/17/2004 2:17:44 AM
        
        Your credibility - ebnelson - 12/17/2004 1:06:14 PM

Meanwhile, back in Sudan... - Tom Brosz - 12/18/2004 5:18:37 AM

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