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Muy vehito! - alcaray - 12/13/2004 11:34:09 PM
- "When your country asks, you do it." - Tom Brosz - 12/14/2004 12:52:27 AM
  - "Whining bedwetters"?? - Lindy - 12/14/2004 6:19:54 PM
    - Yes. Whining bedwetters. - Tom Brosz - 12/14/2004 7:10:38 PM
      - Some of the reasons Hinzmann came to Canada - LJ - 12/14/2004 8:37:26 PM
        
        re: Some of the reasons Hinzmann came to Canada - Tom Brosz - 12/15/2004 4:12:00 AM
        
        re: Some of the reasons Hinzmann came to Canada - Davin L. - 12/15/2004 5:46:15 PM
  - The reigning cry of a chickenhawk!! Key word - "you" - Bowser - 12/14/2004 8:17:30 AM
    - So the Dr. is a chickenhawk, to you? (n/t) - ebnelson - 12/14/2004 3:15:03 PM
  - How old exactly will these guys have to be to impress you guys? (n/t) - alcaray - 12/14/2004 2:05:45 AM
    - I don't get it either - FrankC - 12/14/2004 5:38:22 AM
    - I don't get it. - Tom Brosz - 12/14/2004 5:04:22 AM
      - re: I don't get it. - alcaray - 12/14/2004 7:10:42 PM
        
        re: I don't get it. - Larry J - 12/14/2004 9:00:48 PM
        
        The man was asked, not drafted. - Tom Brosz - 12/14/2004 7:33:32 PM
        
        not germaine to me (well it would be shocking if he was drafted, I guess) (n/t) - alcaray - 12/14/2004 10:09:47 PM
      - re: I don't get it. - LJ - 12/14/2004 4:04:02 PM
        
        Careful there, LJ - Davin L. - 12/14/2004 6:25:32 PM
- La esposa diga, ""This is a great way to finish his career." " - ebnelson - 12/13/2004 11:59:41 PM
- But there's not going to be a draft. Nah, never happen. There must be lots of senior citizens they can call back first. (n/t) - LJ - 12/13/2004 11:43:38 PM
  - Sure there will be a draft.. - FrankC - 12/14/2004 5:42:11 AM
    - Drafting 65 year olds. - Lindy - 12/14/2004 6:22:15 PM
- Just another sign everything is under control, and doing fine! (n/t) - Davin L. - 12/13/2004 11:41:11 PM

Public service notice: flu vaccine available - p - 12/15/2004 5:28:02 PM

1,299 - Donald - 12/15/2004 2:43:21 PM

U.S. troops air unusual discontent - Donald - 12/11/2004 2:26:48 PM
- re: U.S. troops air unusual discontent - Tom Brosz - 12/13/2004 2:14:14 AM
  - Are you saying that you have evidence that shows that the statement "does not really stand up to close examination"? - alcaray - 12/13/2004 4:58:35 PM
    - re: evidence - Tom Brosz - 12/13/2004 5:33:27 PM
      - I think you are arguing... - alcaray - 12/13/2004 6:17:41 PM
        
        Milblogger opinions - Tom Brosz - 12/13/2004 8:27:07 PM
        
        Your links are recent (except the last that made no mention of the armor issue) - alcaray - 12/13/2004 10:10:56 PM
        
        re: links - Tom Brosz - 12/13/2004 11:36:32 PM
        
        Yes we have a year ago, when the story first broke - alcaray - 12/14/2004 12:10:55 AM
        
        re: when the story first broke - Tom Brosz - 12/14/2004 1:04:34 AM
- A strong suggestion for you Jacob - Lindy - 12/11/2004 5:28:17 PM
- A strong suggestion for you, Don. - Jacob Samorodin - 12/11/2004 3:50:30 PM
  - Good grief - Donald - 12/11/2004 5:31:29 PM
  - re: A strong suggestion for you, Don. - goober - 12/11/2004 4:47:59 PM
    - I'm not saying I would approve of there actions, but I would understand it. - Jacob - 12/11/2004 5:15:40 PM
      - Just a nit. - Andy - 12/11/2004 5:39:50 PM
      - re: I'm not saying I would approve of there actions, but I would understand it. - gomer - 12/11/2004 5:25:23 PM
        
        Oh, C'mon - Todd - 12/14/2004 1:10:02 AM
        
        re: Oh, Bullshit - barnie - 12/14/2004 5:38:14 AM
        
        Oh C'mon - Todd - 12/14/2004 7:01:41 AM
        
        re: Wassa Matta Monkey Boy? - Andy - 12/14/2004 7:42:21 AM
        
        Monkey Boy... - Todd - 12/14/2004 8:25:00 AM
        
        re: They're Words Monkey Boy... - treason - 12/14/2004 3:27:30 PM
        
        Ahem.... - Todd - 12/15/2004 12:08:37 AM
        
        Did your Daddy teach you that? - treason - 12/15/2004 1:57:06 AM
        
        Ahem.... - Todd - 12/15/2004 8:23:17 AM
        
        Back to the 'Hood' ... - opie - 12/15/2004 9:31:46 AM
        
        Jumping right in - Lindy - 12/14/2004 6:32:53 PM
- Meanwhile: 1,282 - Donald - 12/11/2004 2:28:07 PM
  - re: Meanwhile: 1,282 - gbaikie - 12/11/2004 9:58:05 PM

1,297 - Donald - 12/15/2004 3:38:06 AM

New drug that can destroy HIV - gbaikie - 12/14/2004 8:38:15 PM
- I have heard this song so many times before. Researchers are always crying "cure". After major independent clinical studies have confirmed it, THEN I will believe it. (n/t) - David F Mayer, skeptic of skeptics - 12/14/2004 9:00:02 PM
- That could be practically miraculous - hope it pans out (n/t) - LJ - 12/14/2004 8:42:00 PM

Insurgent propaganda film? - Tom Brosz - 12/14/2004 5:46:54 AM
- Michael Moore is really busy these days (n/t) - ebnelson - 12/14/2004 7:54:49 PM
- Why not. The terrorists have their own television network: Al Jazerra, why not a propaganda film? (n/t) - David F Mayer - 12/14/2004 5:00:34 PM
- re: Insurgent propaganda film? - LJ - 12/14/2004 4:00:49 PM
  - Yeah, the guys who made the film think U.S. withdrawal would be the best course of action, too. - Tom Brosz - 12/14/2004 4:52:22 PM
    - re: Yeah, the guys who made the film think U.S. withdrawal would be the best course of action, too. - LJ - 12/14/2004 5:02:49 PM
      - Digging for the good news. - Tom Brosz - 12/14/2004 6:49:50 PM
      - That wasn't an opinion. - Tom Brosz - 12/14/2004 5:59:03 PM
        
        re: That wasn't an opinion. - Davin L. - 12/14/2004 6:36:40 PM
- Ever seen anything like it produced in the good ol' USA? - Bowser - 12/14/2004 8:14:38 AM

Top Taliban security chief captured - Tom Brosz - 12/14/2004 6:03:01 PM
- Hopefully he can be encouraged to reveal the whereabouts of Bin Laden and Omar. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 12/14/2004 6:21:47 PM

Is Reason rearing its ugly head in Palestine? - David F Mayer - 12/14/2004 6:20:22 PM

Sup wif dis, bro? Any thoughts - p - 12/10/2004 3:07:56 PM
- It is called "Misty" - ebnelson - 12/14/2004 3:32:14 PM
- re: Sup wif dis, bro? Any thoughts - Peter Bruener - 12/14/2004 7:29:08 AM
- It is already in acquisition mode, so it is not a mere study - ebnelson - 12/13/2004 11:45:06 PM
- My guess: A shuttle replacement with exteme high orbit capabilities to service a new geosync spy sat and future weapons platforms. - Scott Evil - 12/13/2004 2:20:23 PM
  - Sounds reasonable. Alternatively, high energy laser in orbit to destroy missiles in boost phase of flight. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 12/13/2004 5:30:47 PM
    - re: P.S. A high energy laser in space would be a great idea! - Scott Evil - 12/13/2004 9:38:18 PM
      - In my opinion, a boost phase missile defense system would be superior to any other. - David F Mayer - 12/14/2004 5:04:57 PM
    - re: Wouldn't it be great if such a program could be launched for such a low cost... - Scott Evil - 12/13/2004 9:28:21 PM
- Could it be HAARP? (n/t) - FrankC - 12/12/2004 3:48:42 AM
- Don't know, but if Rockefeller hates it, it's probably a great idea. - Tom Brosz - 12/10/2004 6:11:53 PM
- Some guesses - Gary - 12/10/2004 4:36:02 PM
  - Maybe it's Option 1) - Gary - 12/13/2004 5:42:16 AM
    - day dreaming - Davin L. - 12/13/2004 3:36:33 PM
  - re: Some guesses - gbaikie - 12/10/2004 4:58:54 PM
  - re: Some guesses - phil - 12/10/2004 4:50:03 PM
    - JIMO related arguments - Gary - 12/11/2004 8:07:08 AM

Nobel Prize Winnuer Spouts Racist Remarks - p - 12/11/2004 2:32:37 AM
- Maathai denies AIDS statement - David F Mayer - 12/13/2004 5:21:29 PM
- Out-of-date black propaganda - Gary - 12/11/2004 7:54:16 PM
  - Do you know definitively where HIV/AIDS came from? (n/t) - LJ - 12/13/2004 5:51:02 PM
    - FIV to SIV to HIV - Gary - 12/14/2004 5:37:32 AM
    - Do you know definitively where the common cold came from? - Larry J - 12/13/2004 10:01:44 PM
    - Wasn't it a Gay canadian flight attendant (go figure) who first spread it to the west? (n/t) - Scott Evil - 12/13/2004 9:45:37 PM
    - Pretty much. - Tom Brosz - 12/13/2004 9:29:05 PM
      - Are you aware of the possible HIV/Poliovaccine connection? - LJ - 12/13/2004 11:54:21 PM

1,293 - Donald - 12/13/2004 1:00:27 PM
- re: Some thoughts - Johannes - 12/14/2004 4:34:36 AM

Fallujah, after victory, and elections. - Bowser - 12/13/2004 8:18:25 AM
- The question is, do you still claim the Afghan election was a failure?. (n/t) - ebnelson - 12/13/2004 11:29:49 PM
- Ouch! The truth hurts..... - Lindy - 12/13/2004 6:16:49 PM
- It goes without saying that the Left will declare any elections illegitimate. - Tom Brosz - 12/13/2004 4:13:25 PM
  - It will be legitimate. Though since it will result (ultimately) in a Shiite religious state... - alcaray - 12/13/2004 7:06:54 PM
    - re: It will be legitimate. - Tom Brosz - 12/13/2004 8:03:17 PM
      - Nobody wants bad things for Iraq (except, possibly for some Iranians). - alcaray - 12/13/2004 10:05:48 PM
  - What's the big surprise? - Lindy - 12/13/2004 6:18:39 PM
  - And that's about the only argument - sure can't go on the merits, unfortunately. (n/t) - Bowser - 12/13/2004 4:43:09 PM

Here's a good catch phrase... - Larry J - 12/13/2004 10:29:50 PM

Good News From Afghanistan, Part 7 - Tom Brosz - 12/13/2004 8:10:34 PM
- You went from 16 to 7. Were 9 disqualified? (n/t) - alcaray - 12/13/2004 10:12:48 PM
  - Wrong country! "Never mind." (n/t) - alcaray - 12/13/2004 10:14:50 PM
    - No problem. I've made that mistake myself on that site. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 12/13/2004 10:25:12 PM

US Soldiers - Overstretched and Unprotected - Eric - 12/13/2004 3:38:50 PM

Geoerge Clooney, drawing on his great military experience from his role in the flop, 'Three Kings" - ebnelson - 2/23/2003 1:47:02 PM
- It is an interesting post: Clooney was right. Anyone want to admit to a little snack of crow? (n/t) - alcaray - 12/12/2004 9:35:48 PM
- Someone is posting in my name. Check the ID. Moderator, please note this. - ebnelson - 12/12/2004 6:49:50 AM
  - Ort is someone reposting old posts? I don't know or care. This is not something I have posted in the present time frame. Whatever the source, why is this here now? (n/t) - ebnelson - 12/12/2004 6:53:04 AM
    - Uhhh, Ed, it's a very old post... - Robert - 12/12/2004 7:52:21 PM
    - someone googled up a link - FrankC - 12/12/2004 7:56:56 AM
- Ed's Throwing Out More Useless One-liners Again - Lindy - 2/24/2003 6:35:40 PM
  - Lindy, ask for a humorectomy reversal. - ebnelson - 2/24/2003 2:34:31 PM
- No, Solaris was his world class megaflop - p - 2/24/2003 2:55:29 PM
  - I don't think anyone on Earth could have cranked a hit out of the "Solaris" concept. (n/t) (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 2/25/2003 11:38:20 AM
- "We can't beat anyone anymore," added Clooney - SDAI-Tech1 - 2/23/2003 5:33:56 PM
  - Oh SDAI........ - Lindy - 2/24/2003 6:55:00 PM
    - Re: Oh SDAI........ - SDAI-Tech1 - 2/24/2003 12:11:16 PM
  - wrong again SDAI....by a full generation... - Publius - 2/24/2003 3:08:56 PM
    - Re: H.R.E. Wasn't that a Eugene Weber (sp?) quote? n/t (n/t) - Tony - 2/25/2003 3:51:20 PM
      - Re: H.R.E. Wasn't that a Eugene Weber (sp?) quote? n/t - Publius - 2/26/2003 2:56:18 PM
        
        Eugene Weber - Tony - 2/27/2003 3:38:44 PM
    - I stand corrected... - SDAI-Tech1 - 2/24/2003 6:12:03 PM
      - Confusing epic poetry with the epic of history - Mary Anne - 2/24/2003 7:55:48 PM
        
        Maybe subconsciously...;-) - SDAI-Tech1 - 2/25/2003 3:14:17 PM
      - Thanks to the IRS, attention is about the only thing I can pay ;-)(n/t) (n/t) - RobVG - 2/24/2003 7:12:55 PM
  - As careers die down? - Tony - 2/24/2003 1:57:03 PM
    - Star power - Tom Brosz - 2/25/2003 8:25:42 PM
      - Martin Sheen, maybe - but also Clint, Arnie and Charlton........n/t (n/t) - Tony - 2/25/2003 3:49:40 PM
        
        Not necessarily - Larry J - 2/25/2003 6:56:17 PM
      - Oh admit it Tom...If Tiger Woods came out against war you would switch sides! - Scott - 2/25/2003 3:14:27 PM
    - Gotta admit - alcaray - 2/24/2003 4:35:29 PM
    - An opinion about that - FrankC - 2/24/2003 3:38:23 PM
      - re: An opinion about that - eric - 12/11/2004 4:11:17 PM
      - I could buy that - Tony - 2/24/2003 4:16:22 PM
    - We don't listen to celebs? - SDAI-Tech1 - 2/24/2003 12:21:21 PM
      - Re: We don't listen to celebs? - Tony - 2/25/2003 4:28:07 PM
      - Celebs?....hey we don't need no stinkin' badges...we got Duhbya! - Publius - 2/24/2003 3:27:41 PM
- Stats on the flop - Mary Anne - 2/23/2003 4:30:57 PM
  - You're forgetting marketing costs - Larry J - 2/24/2003 2:47:06 PM
  - sigh it was a financial flop, and I in no way stated that clooney shouldn't be free to make a fool of himself. - ebnelson - 2/24/2003 2:36:52 PM

1,284 - Donald - 12/12/2004 4:43:41 AM
- 1,286 - Donald - 12/12/2004 6:25:37 PM

Homeland Security Follies - Donald - 12/11/2004 4:14:10 AM
- re: Homeland Security Follies - Tom Brosz - 12/11/2004 5:05:15 AM
  - One other point, Tom - Donald - 12/11/2004 1:55:01 PM
  - re: Homeland Security Follies - Donald - 12/11/2004 5:49:18 AM
    - Scientifically, you're right. - Tom Brosz - 12/12/2004 7:36:20 AM
      - Just imagine this... - Donald - 12/12/2004 1:31:11 PM

Just put it on my tab - alcaray - 12/9/2004 9:21:12 PM
- Reagan taught 'em debt doesn't matter. (n/t) - Bowser - 12/10/2004 1:58:44 AM
- How you folks can trust a family who raided our S&L's decades ago to be fiscally responsible with OUR money is beyond me - Lindy - 12/9/2004 10:11:47 PM
  - What family are you talking about? - ebnelson - 12/9/2004 10:22:33 PM
    - re: What family are you talking about? - Lindy - 12/9/2004 10:42:45 PM
      - re: What family are you talking about? - ebnelson - 12/10/2004 4:57:28 AM
        
        Ed, where were you in the late 1980's? - Lindy - 12/10/2004 6:11:39 AM
        
        Involved in the banking business in Texas - ebnelson - 12/10/2004 4:26:36 PM
        
        Before this becomes more embarrassing - alcaray - 12/10/2004 5:46:35 PM
        
        If I toss them any slower, they would roll to you. - ebnelson - 12/10/2004 8:24:03 PM
        
        Does Resolution Trust explain why you kept posting on a subject you hadn't heard of? (n/t) - alcaray - 12/10/2004 8:34:50 PM
        
        You are not even in the same county as the topic on this issue. Go get informed. - ebnelson - 12/10/2004 9:54:42 PM
        
        If you have a free minute, review Lindy's post above, to find out what the topic is (n/t) - alcaray - 12/11/2004 5:29:17 PM
        
        You just don't get it, do you? - ebnelson - 12/11/2004 8:34:49 PM
        
        No, we get it fine. You don't know what your talking about, and no amount of bluster is going to fool anyone (n/t) - Davin L. - 12/11/2004 10:55:03 PM
        
        Do you have a mouse in your pocket? You can kid yourself the rest of eternity, and it won't get you closer on this. - ebnelson - 12/12/2004 6:36:17 AM
      - Why, exactly, are these guys not in jail? (n/t) - LJ - 12/9/2004 11:18:08 PM
        
        The best lawyers money can buy. - Mary Anne - 12/10/2004 2:45:39 PM
    - Hint: Google "silverado savings and loan" (n/t) - Mary Anne - 12/9/2004 10:33:37 PM
      - re: Hint: Google "silverado savings and loan" - ebnelson - 12/10/2004 4:58:21 AM
        
        No. "Silverado" equals "the Bush family" + "irresponsible management of other people's money" (n/t) - Mary Anne - 12/10/2004 2:43:36 PM
        
        So Silverado does not equal S&L scandal - ebnelson - 12/10/2004 4:35:14 PM
        
        Not the whole thing, no. Only about one hundred and six million dollars. - Mary Anne - 12/10/2004 7:11:13 PM
        
        Now you are being obtuse. - ebnelson - 12/10/2004 8:21:41 PM
        
        Merry Christmas. - Mary Anne - 12/11/2004 1:28:35 PM
        
        re: Merry Christmas. - ebnelson - 12/11/2004 8:47:21 PM
        
        ebnelson can write! - Lindy - 12/12/2004 8:46:50 AM
        
        Don't get too smug about it. - Tom Brosz - 12/10/2004 8:03:10 PM
        
        Gotta choose your vices wisely (n/t) - alcaray - 12/10/2004 7:26:33 PM
    - Note to Ed: Try reading (n/t) - Davin L. - 12/9/2004 10:30:28 PM
      - Note to Davin L.: Try reading urself. (n/t) - ebnelson - 12/10/2004 4:59:04 AM

PEST Update... breaking news - phil - 12/10/2004 3:50:26 PM
- Hey... - Tom Brosz - 12/10/2004 4:39:58 PM
- It seems that untreated PEST leads to racism - ebnelson - 12/10/2004 4:24:22 PM
  - So, to criticize a Republican who happens to be black is racism? - Mary Anne - 12/10/2004 6:01:49 PM
    - No, acting like a racist makes one a racist. - ebnelson - 12/10/2004 8:12:20 PM
      - Who has denied Sec. Powell is black? - Mary Anne - 12/11/2004 1:24:25 PM
        
        You need to watch more TV (n/t) - gbaikie - 12/11/2004 10:18:20 PM
        
        For God's sake, why? - Mary Anne - 12/11/2004 10:43:15 PM
  - re: It seems that untreated PEST leads to racism - p - 12/10/2004 4:46:17 PM

Kerik withdraws his name from consideration for Homeland Security czar - Tom Brosz - 12/11/2004 3:48:18 AM
- That's a bit difficult to believe, considering. - Bowser - 12/11/2004 4:10:19 AM
  - The story was Nannygate redux (n/t) - p - 12/11/2004 4:14:37 AM
    - The Nannygate excuse curtailed financial investigations.. (n/t) - Publius - 12/11/2004 4:46:16 PM
- re: Kerik withdraws his name from consideration for Homeland Security czar - p - 12/11/2004 3:59:31 AM

Quagmire Update: U.S. Officials Sound Alarm Over Iraq Fuel Crisis - Eric - 12/11/2004 3:43:53 PM

Michael Crichton "State of Fear" and environmentalism - phil - 12/11/2004 4:08:56 AM

Humvee makers dispute Rumsfeld remarks - Donald - 12/10/2004 1:54:02 PM
- re: Humvee makers - Tom Brosz - 12/10/2004 7:35:30 PM
- Charges of Poor Planning for War Revived - Donald - 12/10/2004 1:56:46 PM
  - There was no planning at all execpt for Halliburton getting a sweet lucrative contract, leaving nothing left for the troops (n/t) - Eric - 12/11/2004 2:57:54 AM
  - Meanwhile: 1,279 - Donald - 12/10/2004 1:58:32 PM

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