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Putin's comments re: the American stance on terror - McFly - 9/7/2004 6:21:21 PM
- Given Russia's History - Mark Eby - 9/7/2004 11:47:30 PM
- re: The other one's enemy - Raoul - 9/7/2004 8:17:17 PM
  - What will be the excuse when Belgium gets hit? (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/7/2004 9:04:43 PM
- re: Putin's comments re: the American stance on terror - REB - 9/7/2004 7:32:08 PM
- midlevel officials - FrankC - 9/7/2004 7:29:18 PM
- It is troubling and we should stop, if true. - ebnelson - 9/7/2004 6:36:19 PM
  - I agree - p - 9/7/2004 6:47:48 PM
    - Okay - 'no free passes' - E.P. Grondine - 9/7/2004 7:56:22 PM
      - Every war has roots - ebnelson - 9/7/2004 9:07:53 PM
        
        re: Every war has roots - E.P. Grondine - 9/8/2004 12:42:44 AM

Why Jesus Christ would have to be a Democrat today.... - Publius - 8/12/2004 7:12:21 PM
- re: Why Jesus Christ would have to be a Democrat today.... - John Garvin - 9/7/2004 11:11:26 PM
- Republicans can have him. - Art Martin - 8/13/2004 9:23:08 PM
- Maybe he'd be mad about so many Republicans going to see "The Passion." (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 8/13/2004 1:02:58 AM
- re: Why Jesus Christ would have to be a Democrat today.... - gbaikie - 8/12/2004 9:36:17 PM
  - how very true - Daniel L - 8/13/2004 8:07:28 AM
- You mean that attempted bribery where the devil showed him all he could have would work now? - p - 8/12/2004 9:09:04 PM

Bush hasn't released all his military records. "Bush military file lacks required records" - Bowser - 9/6/2004 7:43:03 PM
- Surprise Bowser Didn't Read It Any Better Than Don - Mark Eby - 9/7/2004 1:15:21 AM
- Keep swinging, you're batting .000 (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/6/2004 7:47:02 PM
  - As usual, no substance, no content. Probably belongs on Flame, if anywhere. (n/t) - Bowser - 9/6/2004 10:56:35 PM
    - Your posts would fit better in a content free zone. (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/7/2004 1:49:57 AM
      - re: Most of your's already are there. (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 9/7/2004 10:08:29 PM

The real reasons Bush went to war - Chris Vancil - 9/7/2004 9:16:16 AM
- re: Why would Tony blair want the US $ to remain the worlds reserve currancy? - Scott Evil - 9/7/2004 1:18:04 PM
  - re: Read the article - Chris Vancil - 9/7/2004 10:04:53 PM
- yawn. - ebnelson - 9/7/2004 12:52:07 PM

Bush Estate home made November 2000 (1,600-acre Prairie Chapel Ranch) - Chris Vancil - 9/6/2004 7:16:12 AM
- Praire Chapel Ranch is an old Germa immigrant ranch - ebnelson - 9/7/2004 1:56:35 AM
  - 'German' But the year of your post does not line up - ebnelson - 9/7/2004 2:03:13 AM
- Got a source? - Tom Brosz - 9/6/2004 4:56:20 PM
  - re: Got a source? - Chris Vancil - 9/6/2004 9:27:50 PM
    - re: It was a pig farm till 1999. - Chris Vancil - 9/6/2004 10:42:55 PM
      - It does not appear to have been a pig farm - ebnelson - 9/7/2004 2:38:40 AM
        
        re: It was Ken Engerlbregcht's Hog Farm get a clue! - Chris Vancil - 9/7/2004 6:34:42 AM
      - Not sure what the hell your point is. - Tom Brosz - 9/7/2004 1:11:54 AM
        
        re: Not sure what the hell your point is. - Chris Vancil - 9/7/2004 1:28:08 AM
        
        Can't find the pig farm part, but anyone knows the Bush family - ebnelson - 9/7/2004 2:05:56 AM
- Check your meds - ebnelson - 9/6/2004 3:51:20 PM
  - re: Weak! What an unimaginative retort...try...a disgruntled ex-employee or a liar who only wants Bush out of office... (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 9/6/2004 9:31:37 PM
    - A lot of ranchers don't ride much. - ebnelson - 9/6/2004 10:40:32 PM
      - re: Like Reagan? Not riding at all and pretending to be a rancher is pure hollywood...if Kerry was doing it you would be so upset... (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 9/6/2004 10:46:32 PM
        
        The ranch you refer to outside of Dallas is not the one in Crawford - ebnelson - 9/7/2004 1:00:16 AM
        
        re: The ranch I refer to is outside Crawford Texas and is currently called Prairie Chapel Ranch (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 9/7/2004 1:09:38 AM
        
        So what does that have to do with the Rainbo Ranch resort? - ebnelson - 9/7/2004 1:53:25 AM
        
        re: It's the Rainbo Club. - Chris Vancil - 9/7/2004 7:17:54 AM
        
        When Bush sold his interest in the Rangers baseball team - ebnelson - 9/7/2004 12:50:51 PM
        
        It was a pig farm...that is what Ken did there look around, Ed. - Chris Vancil - 9/7/2004 9:29:55 PM
- re: Correction: the Cattle on the estate are still owned by the pervious owner. (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 9/6/2004 7:39:45 AM

Bush's drug use - Art Martin - 9/7/2004 3:18:30 PM
- Did anyone watch Bill Maher last night? - Art Martin - 9/7/2004 9:13:19 PM
- Vice in the White House - Robert - 9/7/2004 3:52:16 PM
- Old scandal - Gary - 9/7/2004 3:39:09 PM
  - The Dems are getting desperate - REB - 9/7/2004 3:41:41 PM
    - Guess you missed Gary's "Kerry got a babe" comment - Tony - 9/7/2004 4:26:05 PM
      - Yep, I did. - REB - 9/7/2004 7:24:35 PM
    - This is the stuff that makes people's eyes roll up in boredom - ebnelson - 9/7/2004 3:49:51 PM
- The article - Donald - 9/7/2004 3:33:46 PM
  - Donald has it right. - Tom Brosz - 9/7/2004 4:38:00 PM
    - re: Donald has it right. - Art Martin - 9/7/2004 9:05:50 PM
- Yes Kitty Kerry Kelly has written another fictional account of Republicans (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/7/2004 3:21:31 PM
  - hey dude, don't get so uptight - W's just probably going for the younth vote (n/t) (n/t) - E.P. Grondine - 9/7/2004 3:30:47 PM

Russians Protest Against Terrorism - REB - 9/7/2004 2:27:50 PM
- CNN: Putin blasts U.S. on terror stance - Donald - 9/7/2004 2:38:49 PM
  - Seems his people don't feel the same way. - REB - 9/7/2004 2:40:46 PM
    - Actually, they do - E.P. Grondine - 9/7/2004 3:34:04 PM
      - Only if he is willing to fight the terrorist. - REB - 9/7/2004 3:36:38 PM
        
        my g*d, are you delusional? - E.P. Grondine - 9/7/2004 3:45:33 PM
        
        As of today, Russians say they are united against terrorists - REB - 9/7/2004 3:58:46 PM
        
        who is delusional? - Tony - 9/7/2004 6:27:36 PM
        
        re: who is delusional? - REB - 9/7/2004 7:35:41 PM
        
        Russia has been in the War On Terror for a long time now - Tony - 9/7/2004 9:06:32 PM

Clues beginning to land? - Tom Brosz - 9/7/2004 8:42:23 PM

Quagmire Update: Fierce Clashes in Iraq Kill 34 People - Donald - 9/7/2004 1:25:15 PM
- Oh, I thought you were referring to the Kerry campaign. (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/7/2004 4:30:10 PM
- John kerry supports the quagmire. Like Bush, he would have invaded Iraq too. - Scott Evil - 9/7/2004 2:01:04 PM
  - You're beginning to sound desperate - Donald - 9/7/2004 2:15:30 PM
    - Cripes. Read your post again. Who's sounding desperate? - Tom Brosz - 9/7/2004 8:18:54 PM
    - re: Oh yeah I'm desperate: that's not what Kerry said 2 weeks ago. - Scott Evil - 9/7/2004 2:21:27 PM
- Meanwhile: 998 - Donald - 9/7/2004 1:26:49 PM
  - So you have lied 1000 times - ebnelson - 9/7/2004 2:55:49 PM
  - Oh wait...I think you included a few dead Russian school Children in your figures. (n/t) - Scott Evil - 9/7/2004 1:56:13 PM
  - CNN: U.S. deaths in Iraq near 1,000 - Donald - 9/7/2004 1:43:44 PM
    - What? So soon? Can't the majic number wait until closer to the election? (n/t) - Scott Evil - 9/7/2004 1:53:53 PM
      - Magic Number?!? - Donald - 9/7/2004 1:59:42 PM
        
        Yes. Magic Number. - Tom Brosz - 9/7/2004 4:49:47 PM
        
        Example: - Tom Brosz - 9/7/2004 5:00:59 PM
        
        Enjoy the milestone. - Scott Evil - 9/7/2004 2:26:58 PM

A bit more on why Bush is going to win. - Tom Brosz - 9/7/2004 8:23:46 AM
- re: A bit more on why Bush is going to win. - Bowser - 9/7/2004 1:42:07 PM
  - 80 BC - FrankC - 9/7/2004 3:58:41 PM
- Strange: The Bush position on Sudan is what exactly? (n/t) - Tony - 9/7/2004 1:26:07 PM
  - re: If the UN can fix Sudan, then we'll let them fix Iraq and lead the war on terror. - Scott Evil - 9/7/2004 2:04:27 PM
- It is going to be a long 60 days, but I think you are right - ebnelson - 9/7/2004 12:44:40 PM
  - Can Kerry goanother 60 days without taking a stand on any issue? - scott Evil - 9/7/2004 2:17:03 PM
    - He will take many, but none for more than a week or so. (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/7/2004 2:57:12 PM

Myth: Clinton Did Nothing To Fight Terrorism - Chris Vancil - 9/6/2004 6:50:34 AM
- No, clinton just did lazy, ineffective, uncoordinated action to fight terrorism (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/6/2004 3:52:36 PM
  - utter BS: Clinton team caught every attack on US after 1993 - E.P. Grondine - 9/6/2004 3:56:20 PM
    - Kenya, Tanzania, Khobar, USS Cole. I, unlike you, am truthful - ebnelson - 9/6/2004 4:21:17 PM
      - He May Have Meant On US Soil - Mark Eby - 9/6/2004 5:26:14 PM
        
        Exactly, and its likely Gore would have caught 911 teams as well - E.P. Grondine - 9/6/2004 7:18:53 PM
        
        Yeah, and all the terrorists will evaporate into purple smoke if Kerry is elected. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/7/2004 1:17:38 AM
        
        Uhhh, ygtbk - ebnelson - 9/6/2004 7:33:52 PM
        
        re: You mean Gore would have done what Bush did? Which is nothing? (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 9/6/2004 10:52:09 PM
        
        Only he would have continues after 911 doing nothing. - ebnelson - 9/7/2004 1:02:52 AM
        
        re:This is based on what your deep insight into Gore..Oh my god your his twin? - Chris Vancil - 9/7/2004 5:41:27 AM
        
        Thankfully, no. But algore has shown us all we need to see. (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/7/2004 3:20:21 PM
- And Yes The Lewinsky Comments Were Bogus (n/t) - Mark Eby - 9/6/2004 1:21:58 PM
- Yeap That's a Myth and A Distortion - Mark Eby - 9/6/2004 1:20:43 PM
  - re: Yeap That's a Myth and A Distortion - Chris Vancil - 9/6/2004 9:38:46 PM
    - Get a Grip On Your Partisanship - Mark Eby - 9/7/2004 1:25:16 AM

Kerry flip-flops again on troop withdrawal timeline, trashes US allies - ebnelson - 9/6/2004 8:32:48 PM
- rLooks like the left is not the only group capable of acting like hooligans - E.P. Grondine - 9/7/2004 1:20:47 AM
  - Yo Uncle Eddie - Kerry said "Bring it on!" - p - 9/7/2004 12:25:30 PM
    - And people see it in him. - ebnelson - 9/7/2004 12:46:09 PM
  - Heckling = hooligan? No. - ebnelson - 9/7/2004 1:48:54 AM

I'm sure you were just to buzy before: Bush's 'war' on federal workers - Chris Vancil - 9/7/2004 7:36:45 AM
- You might have picked a bad example. - Tom Brosz - 9/7/2004 8:06:56 AM
  - re: You might have picked a bad example. - Chris Vancil - 9/7/2004 10:21:24 AM

Pigeonhawks - Donald - 9/6/2004 4:30:37 AM
- that site really broke me up - Daniel - 9/7/2004 9:39:47 AM
- I will take a pigeonhawk over a skunk any day (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/6/2004 4:30:27 PM
- So, who did you vote for in 1992 and 1996? The decorated war heroes, or the draft dodger? - Tom Brosz - 9/6/2004 4:41:53 AM
  - 1992: I was biting bullets while my opponent was biting nails - tony - 9/6/2004 3:26:41 PM
  - re: What's different now? - Chris Vancil - 9/6/2004 5:18:39 AM
  - re: What's different now? - Chris Vancil - 9/6/2004 5:15:14 AM
    - So who did you vote to be Commander in Chief in 1992 and 1996? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/6/2004 6:09:02 AM
      - re: and as I said you are trying to change your own "rules" ...the world is different now... (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 9/6/2004 7:26:15 AM

Old news but should remind you of how Republicans think... - Chris Vancil - 9/7/2004 8:52:42 AM
- re: Old news but should remind you of how Republicans think... - Chris Vancil - 9/7/2004 9:07:46 AM

Kerry Koolaid Kids thrilled by sleaze writer's fiction: - ebnelson - 9/6/2004 7:46:03 PM
- Will be interesting to see if the media applies the same level of skepticism--if not outright hostility--that they did for the Swift Boat Veterans. - Tom Brosz - 9/7/2004 8:10:32 AM
- okay President, but GREAT party animal - E.P. Grondine - 9/7/2004 1:24:52 AM
  - Almost clintonesque (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/7/2004 1:50:43 AM
- Golly, has Kerry asked that the book not be published? - p - 9/6/2004 10:59:46 PM
  - re: Golly, has Kerry asked that the book not be published? - Chris Vancil - 9/6/2004 11:12:40 PM

Car Bomb Near Fallujah Kills 7 Marines - Donald - 9/6/2004 1:38:55 PM
- "Bring 'em on!", he said. "Bring 'em on!" (n/t) - Bowser - 9/6/2004 6:13:27 PM
- Your thousand death snuff-orgasm is nearly here - ebnelson - 9/6/2004 3:58:32 PM
  - Thank George Bush for that - Donald - 9/6/2004 5:44:50 PM
    - And Kerry voted for sending them, although your 1000 casualty goal - ebnelson - 9/6/2004 5:53:26 PM
      - re: ". . .withdrawing support for them [American troops] when they need it." - Mary Anne - 9/7/2004 12:15:43 AM
        
        Do you have details for that, or just talking points? - Tom Brosz - 9/7/2004 1:00:43 AM
        
        re: Do you have details for that, or just talking points? - Mary Anne - 9/7/2004 2:23:26 AM
        
        Half a billion dollar increase = spending cuts? - Tom Brosz - 9/7/2004 7:47:22 AM
        
        re: Do you have details for that, or just talking points? - gbaikie - 9/7/2004 3:54:20 AM
        
        No, it is more like helping to found VVAW, with the leader a proven fraud - ebnelson - 9/7/2004 12:47:53 AM
- Meanwhile: Wounded soldiers neglected by Bush administration - Donald - 9/6/2004 1:44:47 PM
  - This could be one really hot issue for Kerry - E.P. Grondine - 9/6/2004 2:54:18 PM

Answers On The Jobs Number Surveys - Mark Eby - 9/6/2004 6:05:31 PM
- According to some, or one, it's still messed up. - Bowser - 9/6/2004 6:12:06 PM
  - I'm not in the numbers either, Bowser. - Tom Brosz - 9/6/2004 7:06:57 PM
    - re:Losing ground - Raoul - 9/6/2004 8:55:36 PM
      - A Possible Explanation - Mark Eby - 9/7/2004 12:59:45 AM
        
        re: A Possible Explanation - gbaikie - 9/7/2004 1:30:46 AM
        
        It Normally Takes 6 Months For Jobs to Follow GDP Upward - Mark Eby - 9/7/2004 1:44:03 AM
        
        re: It Normally Takes 6 Months For Jobs to Follow GDP Upward - gbaikie - 9/7/2004 2:57:13 AM
        
        Unemployment Was At Historic Lows Going In - Mark Eby - 9/7/2004 3:46:34 AM
        
        Jobs created and lost - Tom Brosz - 9/7/2004 7:11:04 AM
        
        re: Unemployment Was At Historic Lows Going In - gbaikie - 9/7/2004 4:26:23 AM
        
        Oops should be worker shortage - gb - 9/7/2004 1:35:46 AM
      - re: re:Losing ground - gbaikie - 9/6/2004 10:45:14 PM

AP Expose: Bush's National Guard file missing key records - Donald - 9/5/2004 7:45:29 PM
- Read Your Own Source Before Entering Bush Rage Rapture - Mark Eby - 9/6/2004 12:19:21 AM
  - From rage rapture to rage rupture? - ebnelson - 9/7/2004 3:12:00 AM
  - re: Read Your Own Source... - Chris Vancil - 9/6/2004 6:01:56 AM
    - Has Any Control Been Run? - Mark Eby - 9/7/2004 1:10:24 AM
      - re: Has Any Control Been Run? - Chris Vancil - 9/7/2004 6:22:45 AM
- Let the flailing continue... - Tom Brosz - 9/5/2004 11:43:52 PM
- In the meantime... - Larry J - 9/5/2004 10:55:21 PM
  - Also in the meantime... - E.P. Grondine - 9/6/2004 4:05:36 PM

What would it mean to capture Bin Laden? - Chris Vancil - 9/6/2004 9:29:18 AM
- Not much. - Tom Brosz - 9/6/2004 3:45:42 PM
  - It might possibly have an impact on al Queda's financing - Larry J - 9/6/2004 8:22:47 PM
    - re: It might possibly have an impact on al Queda's financing - Chris Vancil - 9/6/2004 10:27:02 PM
      - In Other Words - Mark Eby - 9/7/2004 2:10:26 AM
        
        re: In Other Words - Chris Vancil - 9/7/2004 5:36:09 AM
- re: What would it mean to capture Bin Laden? - p - 9/6/2004 11:54:18 AM
  - re: What would it mean to capture Bin Laden? - Chris Vancil - 9/6/2004 10:29:36 PM

Compassionate conservatism. - Bowser - 9/7/2004 4:46:33 AM

Card says president sees America as a child needing a parent - Bowser - 9/7/2004 4:27:40 AM

Frances A Bitch - Mark Eby - 9/5/2004 8:38:39 PM
- Big Blows & Balls - Mark Eby - 9/6/2004 5:08:55 PM
  - Don't relax yet - Lindy - 9/6/2004 6:46:41 PM
    - You Are Bad Luck - Mark Eby - 9/7/2004 1:33:26 AM
      - No I'm Not - Lindy - 9/7/2004 4:20:32 AM
- Suggestion - Lindy - 9/6/2004 8:07:29 AM
  - Oh, and............. - Lindy - 9/6/2004 8:15:57 AM
    - re: Oh, and............. - Mark Eby - 9/6/2004 5:10:27 PM
- Watch out for Hurricane Ivan next - Barney - 9/6/2004 12:20:46 AM
  - Yeah I Thought I Could Worry Less - Mark Eby - 9/6/2004 12:29:22 AM
- Southern Georgia? Southern Georgia of the USA, then CSA, and now USA? - Bowser - 9/6/2004 12:15:45 AM
  - But I Can Thank Zell Miller For The Hope Scholarships (n/t) - Mark Eby - 9/6/2004 12:30:16 AM
  - Yes - Mark Eby - 9/6/2004 12:27:53 AM
    - I wouldn't besmirch any good Georgians. Never. - Bowser - 9/6/2004 1:07:50 AM
- And it sounds like Ivan is going to be a bastard - Larry J - 9/5/2004 10:51:02 PM
- Thanks For The Concern - Mark Eby - 9/5/2004 10:28:56 PM
- re: Frances A Bitch - E.P. Grondine - 9/5/2004 10:00:13 PM
- Poor trees... - Mary Anne - 9/5/2004 9:47:09 PM
- Good luck - Gary - 9/5/2004 8:47:27 PM

Where the Right Went Wrong: How Neoconservatives Subverted the Reagan Revolution and Hijacked the Bush Presidency - Chris Vancil - 9/6/2004 11:02:54 PM
- From Buchannon The Hero Of The Left ;-) - Mark Eby - 9/7/2004 12:41:34 AM
  - re: From Buchannon The Hero Of The Left ;-) - Chris Vancil - 9/7/2004 1:14:25 AM
    - He's Always Been An Isolationist & Protectionist - Mark Eby - 9/7/2004 1:27:40 AM
      - re: Yeah, well I'm not an Isolationist or a Protectionist - Chris Vancil - 9/7/2004 1:43:17 AM
        
        Isolationism Doesn't Mean Don't Respond To Attacks - Mark Eby - 9/7/2004 1:46:39 AM

What a hoot!! Gen. Tommy Franks on Iraq. - Bowser - 9/6/2004 1:00:41 AM
- re: More from Graham's book, ``Intelligence Matters" - Chris Vancil - 9/6/2004 5:41:01 AM
  - If Graham had anything of substance, he would have gone to the 911 Commission. - ebnelson - 9/6/2004 8:38:58 PM
    - Newsflash Ed: 9/11 Commission focussed on 9/11, not Iraq - tony - 9/6/2004 10:58:14 PM
- Looks like Graham is just getting started... - Tom Brosz - 9/6/2004 4:47:30 AM
  - Given any thought as to the information and it's implications? (n/t) - Bowser - 9/6/2004 5:16:03 AM
- re: What a hoot!! - gb - 9/6/2004 4:27:28 AM
  - Hey, the link worked earlier today when I checked it. - Tom Brosz - 9/6/2004 4:36:42 AM
    - re: Hey, the link worked earlier today when I checked it. - gbaikie - 9/6/2004 5:21:44 AM
      - Might not hurt to wait and see what Franks has to say about this. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/6/2004 6:38:03 AM
        
        I haven't read this book. Got anything on internet? (n/t) - gbaikie - 9/7/2004 1:38:29 AM

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