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The economy is not consumer driven? - RobVG - 9/30/2012 4:06:58 PM
- Property is merely a euphemism used to justify violence. Ask the Indians. - ER - 10/3/2012 1:44:41 AM
  - "All property is theft" - TB - 10/3/2012 2:43:26 AM
    - Maybe I can't integrate... - ER - 10/3/2012 3:15:38 AM
- I see what you mean - Robert - 10/1/2012 1:57:09 AM
  - No, you just didn't get it. Or didn't want to. - TB - 10/1/2012 7:26:51 PM
    - Barking mad - Robert - 10/2/2012 6:17:28 AM
    - In other words... - SDAI-Tech - 10/2/2012 3:19:34 AM
      - When the economy is bad, you increase the money supply. When you have inflation, you tighten it. - alcaray - 10/2/2012 6:07:26 PM
      - Vorticial economics - Robert - 10/2/2012 6:02:13 AM
        
        I heard this somewhere: - TB - 10/2/2012 4:29:39 PM
        
        "A conservative is somebody who knows the price of everything, and the value of nothing." - Robert - 10/2/2012 6:08:18 PM
        
        No, you've drifted off into the ditch. - TB - 10/2/2012 6:39:47 PM
        
        Many people (in this economy, especially).. - alcaray - 10/2/2012 8:01:35 PM
        
        You can't be this obtuse. - TB - 10/2/2012 8:21:54 PM
        
        So all those times the Fed moved to increase the money supply to improve the economy... - alcaray - 10/2/2012 8:45:15 PM
        
        Yes. - TB - 10/2/2012 9:38:54 PM
        
        Lowering the funds rates increases money supply. That's why they do it. - alcaray - 10/2/2012 9:45:51 PM
        
        And let me expand a bit on the housing example. - TB - 10/2/2012 6:58:54 PM
        
        Value - SDAI-Tech - 10/2/2012 8:00:02 AM
        
        The more things change, the more they stay the same - Robert - 10/3/2012 5:21:45 AM
        
        The Claim - TB - 10/3/2012 4:36:11 PM
- "Consumers" don't buy housing. - TB - 9/30/2012 4:46:44 PM
  - This was a draft but I'm not going to bother finishing it. - RobVG - 10/2/2012 1:53:20 AM
    - I give up. - TB - 10/2/2012 4:59:05 AM
      - If anyone was serious about the deficit they'd be talking about raising taxes. - RobVG - 10/2/2012 5:13:42 AM
        
        Which ones? - TB - 10/2/2012 5:41:13 AM
        
        Looks like just about all. - RobVG - 10/2/2012 6:15:59 AM
        
        That's not policy. - TB - 10/2/2012 4:21:45 PM
      - One more for the road... - TB - 10/2/2012 5:05:25 AM
  - Consumer - alcaray - 10/1/2012 10:18:44 PM
  - The English language getting the best of you again? - bowser - 9/30/2012 10:56:02 PM

Zingers - RobVG - 10/2/2012 3:20:08 PM
- He's been saying it every time the topic of debate comes up. - alcaray - 10/2/2012 8:04:09 PM
- Spin prep. - TB - 10/2/2012 4:19:24 PM
  - Ryan: - alcaray - 10/2/2012 8:19:10 PM
  - As usual, accuse the other guy of what you're doing yourself. - bowser - 10/2/2012 6:59:46 PM

Socialist Man - TB - 9/30/2012 4:14:37 PM
- Wal-martification of the electorate - SDAI-Tech - 10/1/2012 11:36:31 AM
  - Your socialists were given the power by those who brought the economy down. Don't blame stupidity and ignorance. n/t - RobVG - 10/2/2012 3:09:26 PM
    - Re: Your socialists were given the power by those who brought the economy down. Don't blame stupidity and ignorance. n/t - TB - 10/2/2012 4:33:02 PM
      - Voting stupid... - BuckGalaxy - 10/2/2012 6:05:12 PM
        
        Middle class income - TB - 10/2/2012 6:18:01 PM
  - Scared to ask: what was wrong with the Democratic convention vote count? - alcaray - 10/1/2012 9:32:36 PM
    - Re: Scared to ask: what was wrong with the Democratic convention vote count? - SDAI-Tech - 10/2/2012 8:09:57 AM
      - Ah, you're right. That was shady. - alcaray - 10/2/2012 6:01:44 PM
- You used to squeal like a stuck pig when we pointed out some particularly humorous signs at Tparty rallies. - alcaray - 9/30/2012 9:13:34 PM
- I get it! The Democratic party is exactly like North Korea! - BuckGalaxy - 9/30/2012 7:56:01 PM
  - no no no, his point is that education leads to tyranny . - Robert - 10/1/2012 2:03:52 AM
    - Not really. - TB - 10/1/2012 3:02:28 AM
      - I know - Robert - 10/1/2012 7:23:28 PM
        
        Re: I know - TB - 10/1/2012 7:29:27 PM
        
        Like this? - Robert - 10/2/2012 4:41:13 PM
- Greed is one of the Seven Deadly Sins, not the high point of existence. - bowser - 9/30/2012 6:51:17 PM
  - Re: Greed is one of the Seven Deadly Sins, not the high point of existence. - Jody - 10/1/2012 2:27:07 AM

As long as I'm at it. - bowser - 10/2/2012 6:57:50 AM

The latest conservative argument: Don't vote for Obama because his mother was a slut - BuckGalaxy - 9/28/2012 7:18:03 PM
- Speaking of Dinesh D'Souza... - TB - 9/29/2012 6:33:55 PM
- Re: The latest conservative argument: Don't vote for Obama because his mother was a slut - Jody - 9/28/2012 11:12:39 PM
- Despicable. - TB - 9/28/2012 9:00:11 PM
  - Honestly I've never heard of either examples you gave - BuckGalaxy - 9/29/2012 5:27:14 AM
    - Memory holes - TB - 9/29/2012 5:29:38 PM

How to tell when there is something seriously wrong. - bowser - 9/28/2012 7:23:16 PM

This is why you guys hated ACORN... - alcaray - 9/28/2012 1:13:37 AM

The polls are rigged. - alcaray - 9/27/2012 6:35:37 PM
- It's actually a lot more complicated. - TB - 9/27/2012 9:30:16 PM
  - Rasmussen has been the outlier poll for some time - BuckGalaxy - 9/27/2012 10:12:40 PM
    - Thanks, I was looking for something like this - alcaray - 9/27/2012 10:58:38 PM
  - Which poll? (I'm not a subscriber, so if that's what it takes to confirm your point, don't bother) - alcaray - 9/27/2012 10:08:19 PM
- I used to watch Fox to keep track of right-wing propaganda methods. - ER - 9/27/2012 7:50:14 PM
  - Fox and friends is a perfect example of what you are talking about - BuckGalaxy - 9/27/2012 8:35:00 PM
- Poll Trutherism the latest right wing fantasy - BuckGalaxy - 9/27/2012 7:44:20 PM
  - Pollerism - ER - 9/27/2012 10:33:17 PM
    - Heh. - TB - 9/27/2012 10:40:32 PM
      - Talk about hanging onto a grudge... - alcaray - 9/27/2012 11:01:07 PM
      - Then you should have nothing to worry about, should you? - ER - 9/27/2012 10:42:52 PM

From where I sit. - Jody - 9/20/2012 3:36:56 PM
- The mistake a lot of us make is thinking there is always a middle ground that works for both sides. - TB - 9/20/2012 5:58:51 PM
  - What insufferable arrogance. - ER - 9/27/2012 4:51:03 PM
  - Re: The mistake a lot of us make is thinking there is always a middle ground that works for both sides. - Jody - 9/20/2012 9:07:47 PM
    - How did that get political? - bowser - 9/21/2012 1:06:42 AM
      - Re: How did that get political? - Jody - 9/21/2012 2:11:29 AM
        
        Well, that's one answer I suppose. - bowser - 9/21/2012 2:49:18 AM
        
        Re: Well, that's one answer I suppose. - Jody - 9/21/2012 5:43:32 PM
        
        How many "Daffy Ducks" have you gotten for responses? - TB - 9/21/2012 3:41:13 PM
        
        Not nearly enough. You're still quacking nonsense. - ER - 9/27/2012 4:07:03 PM
        
        Re: How many "Daffy Ducks" have you gotten for responses? - Jody - 9/21/2012 4:58:11 PM
        
        Re: Well, that's one answer I suppose. - Jody - 9/21/2012 2:53:20 PM
- Re: From where I sit. - Jody - 9/20/2012 3:48:39 PM
  - Re: From where I sit. - Jody - 9/21/2012 2:12:15 AM

GOP considering replacing Mitt. - ER - 9/27/2012 4:18:03 PM
- Re: GOP considering replacing Mitt. - Jody - 9/27/2012 4:33:43 PM

Curious...from a buddy who lives in Kuwait - Jody - 9/22/2012 1:56:05 PM
- Now you are playing in Bowser's neighborhood. - alcaray - 9/22/2012 10:04:13 PM
  - And? Do you think I formed my opinion in a vacuum? - bowser - 9/23/2012 5:46:25 AM
    - I wonder if Argentina still holds a grudge against President Grant because we sent Butch and Sundance to steal and kill. - alcaray - 9/24/2012 7:13:45 PM
      - The Falklands - bowser - 9/24/2012 8:49:18 PM
        
        I should avoid using simile around here. - alcaray - 9/25/2012 12:17:44 AM
    - Re: And? Do you think I formed my opinion in a vacuum? - Jody - 9/23/2012 2:50:03 PM
  - Re: Now you are playing in Bowser's neighborhood. - Jody - 9/23/2012 12:48:34 AM
    - Well it is certainly all true. - alcaray - 9/23/2012 1:32:59 AM
      - Re: Well it is certainly all true. - Jody - 9/23/2012 2:20:14 AM
        
        Only on the point that we urged the Saudis to fund them. - alcaray - 9/23/2012 3:03:38 AM
        
        The US laundered money through the Saudis to fund them. - bowser - 9/24/2012 8:50:23 PM
        
        Re: Well it is certainly all true. - TB - 9/23/2012 2:28:18 AM
        
        Re: Well it is certainly all true. - Jody - 9/23/2012 2:45:44 PM
      - Saudis - TB - 9/23/2012 2:12:34 AM
  - And? - bowser - 9/22/2012 10:16:40 PM

Here I go... - Jody - 9/18/2012 5:48:46 PM
- No problem Jody, it's your right. Cheers! :-) - BuckGalaxy - 9/19/2012 1:41:12 AM
  - Re: No problem Jody, it's your right. Cheers! :-) - Jody - 9/20/2012 3:38:49 PM
- I think that's fine. You go girl! - alcaray - 9/18/2012 7:20:32 PM
  - Re: I think that's fine. You go girl! - Jody - 9/20/2012 3:39:13 PM
    - People who vote deserve great respect... - alcaray - 9/21/2012 1:14:59 AM
- Remember it well. - ER - 9/18/2012 7:06:56 PM
- And I really think you should. - bowser - 9/18/2012 7:02:50 PM
- Re: Here I go... - TB - 9/18/2012 6:17:51 PM
  - A couple of questions, if I might. Are the people dependent upon government, the victims, those are the bankers, right? - bowser - 9/18/2012 8:35:03 PM

Echoing a previous thread. - bowser - 9/18/2012 8:51:59 PM
- I think I'll join you. But I have one more thing to say before I go. - ER - 9/18/2012 10:14:18 PM
  - Re: I think I'll join you. But I have one more thing to say before I go. - Jody - 9/18/2012 11:12:38 PM
    - A, uh, personal questions, an attempt to ask delicately. - bowser - 9/18/2012 11:54:14 PM
      - Surprised me too. - TB - 9/19/2012 1:01:11 AM
        
        I'll try to be more annoying.... n/t - RobVG - 9/19/2012 3:19:28 AM
        
        I think there's another issue. - bowser - 9/19/2012 2:41:36 AM
        
        Re: I think there's another issue. - Jody - 9/20/2012 3:41:05 PM
        
        Re: I think there's another issue. - Jody - 9/19/2012 11:26:36 AM

They couldn't stop Romney at the convention. - ER - 9/18/2012 4:59:28 PM
- Hmmm. - TB - 9/18/2012 5:29:16 PM
  - Nah, he's just been reading Kristol at the Standard. - alcaray - 9/18/2012 7:25:43 PM
  - What? The Republican candidate isn't viable. And the riposte? - bowser - 9/18/2012 7:09:44 PM
  - Hey, that's my line. - ER - 9/18/2012 5:49:57 PM
    - "Carefully cultivated" - TB - 9/18/2012 6:15:46 PM
      - The Dems aren't firing their guns prematurely, - ER - 9/18/2012 6:34:10 PM
        
        No. The guns are constantly tracking. - TB - 9/18/2012 6:46:17 PM
        
        Hey, I just made a comment on election tactics, not ideology. - ER - 9/18/2012 7:02:40 PM
        
        "bringing things up" has an exact meaning. - TB - 9/18/2012 7:06:45 PM
        
        Man, if you can't comment on that poster, - ER - 9/18/2012 7:22:08 PM
    - Hey, what did I tell ya? - ER - 9/18/2012 6:00:57 PM

Undeniable, documented proof Obama was born in the USA, - ER - 9/17/2012 5:05:14 PM
- Re: Undeniable, documented proof Obama was born in the USA, - Jody - 9/17/2012 7:10:56 PM
  - Hey Obama! Who's Yo Mama? - ER - 9/17/2012 7:21:03 PM
- Re: Undeniable, documented proof Obama was born in the USA, - TB - 9/17/2012 5:26:13 PM
  - Not necessarily so. - ER - 9/17/2012 5:54:49 PM
    - An interesting thing about these points of view. - bowser - 9/17/2012 6:17:48 PM
      - All those people have one thing in common. - ER - 9/17/2012 7:02:41 PM
        
        I remember arguing with anti-war protestors. - bowser - 9/17/2012 9:12:54 PM
      - Hey, I've got a copy of the test questions that scientist gave to detect conspiracy nuts. - TB - 9/17/2012 6:23:50 PM
        
        Yeah, I'd like to take it, and I'll post the results. - bowser - 9/17/2012 9:16:09 PM
        
        I am sure of several things, TB. - bowser - 9/17/2012 6:46:22 PM
    - Oh, and BTW...Did you read the link? - ER - 9/17/2012 5:59:21 PM
      - Is that a joke? - TB - 9/17/2012 6:21:38 PM
        
        What difference would it make? - ER - 9/17/2012 6:37:51 PM
        
        Re: What difference would it make? - Jody - 9/17/2012 7:21:52 PM
        
        Jody, you of all people should know... - ER - 9/17/2012 8:54:35 PM
        
        Re: Jody, you of all people should know... - Jody - 9/17/2012 9:24:24 PM
        
        Re: Jody, you of all people should know... - Jody - 9/18/2012 1:05:09 AM
        
        I have issues with Socialism/Marxism too. - ER - 9/18/2012 1:37:18 AM
        
        Really? - TB - 9/18/2012 2:56:32 AM
        
        Is that in my dossier now? - ER - 9/18/2012 3:01:02 AM
        
        Don't look at me. You put it there. - TB - 9/18/2012 3:03:57 AM
        
        Jeez, no kidding. Where do these people get the idea we are ok with communism? - alcaray - 9/18/2012 1:54:11 AM
        
        Re: Jeez, no kidding. Where do these people get the idea we are ok with communism? - Jody - 9/18/2012 2:44:11 AM
        
        "I have issues with Socialism/Marxism. YOU have issues with religion." - alcaray - 9/18/2012 3:22:36 AM
        
        Re: "I have issues with Socialism/Marxism. YOU have issues with religion." - Jody - 9/18/2012 3:43:15 AM
        
        Well sure. I'm hoping that Romney doesn't turn out to be a unicorn, too. - alcaray - 9/18/2012 7:17:23 PM
        
        Conservatives use 'Communist' or 'Socialist' like Jihadis use 'Infidel'. - ER - 9/18/2012 2:21:01 AM
        
        Newspeak - TB - 9/18/2012 3:03:01 AM
        
        You've got no problems with central authority. - ER - 9/18/2012 3:35:14 AM
        
        Hysterics don't look good on you. - TB - 9/18/2012 4:20:09 AM
        
        Dictatorship of the Middle Class - ER - 9/18/2012 12:30:48 PM
        
        Re: Conservatives use 'Communist' or 'Socialist' like Jihadis use 'Infidel'. - Jody - 9/18/2012 2:41:56 AM
        
        No, you've never called me a socialist. - ER - 9/18/2012 2:56:55 AM
        
        Re: No, you've never called me a socialist. - Jody - 9/18/2012 4:02:36 AM
        
        You're right. That's what I've said. - ER - 9/18/2012 4:18:34 AM
        
        Dueling Conspiracies - ER - 9/17/2012 7:15:36 PM

Are you a conspiracy nut? - TB - 9/17/2012 10:11:49 PM
- Re: Are you a conspiracy nut? - Jody - 9/18/2012 3:24:42 PM
- I actually believe 21 could be true - BuckGalaxy - 9/17/2012 11:23:00 PM
- Two probably trues. - bowser - 9/17/2012 11:10:13 PM
- I don't know what your argument is here. - alcaray - 9/17/2012 10:42:18 PM
- Not sure what point you are trying to make? - BuckGalaxy - 9/17/2012 10:40:19 PM
  - Check the thread below where Bowser wants to see these questions. - TB - 9/17/2012 11:08:59 PM
  - Seems like this one really struck a nerve with TB. - ER - 9/17/2012 11:05:03 PM
    - I'm the one that asked for the questions. - bowser - 9/17/2012 11:10:54 PM

How to lose a 21st century war. - bowser - 9/18/2012 2:26:26 AM

Submitted, without comment - ER - 9/16/2012 9:16:06 PM
- Hilarious how the detractors of the study claim conspiracy. - alcaray - 9/16/2012 9:57:17 PM
  - It isn't a "conspiracy" when one person cooks a study. - TB - 9/17/2012 4:23:34 PM
    - "...Lewandowsky and his colleagues..." - alcaray - 9/17/2012 7:28:36 PM
  - I often find that mentality to be impervious to irony. - ER - 9/17/2012 12:23:04 PM

"I didn't have to." - TB - 9/15/2012 4:37:13 PM
- Therein lies the rub. - bowser - 9/15/2012 7:33:56 PM
  - TB wants to talk about Hansen because he doesn't want to talk about the ice. - ER - 9/15/2012 9:52:08 PM
    - How can you ignore the proposed solutions to the problem you're crusading for? The point may be irrelevant to you but not to those who are reading you. n/t - RobVG - 9/16/2012 12:12:17 AM
      - I think you misunderstand. - ER - 9/16/2012 1:28:07 AM
        
        Perhaps - RobVG - 9/16/2012 2:16:09 AM
        
        Maybe, but here we are talking about Hansen, not about the ice. - ER - 9/16/2012 3:27:55 AM
- 3,541,719 - ER - 9/15/2012 5:12:17 PM
  - Heh, heh. - bowser - 9/15/2012 6:43:00 PM
  - Good demonstration. Thanks. - TB - 9/15/2012 5:44:41 PM

A letter from Galt's Gulch - ER - 9/13/2012 1:09:52 PM
- I enjoyed this. - bowser - 9/13/2012 11:29:53 PM
  - Its all negotiable. - ER - 9/14/2012 12:08:43 AM
    - I don't think most of what Bowser proposes would be "negotiable" to a sane person. - TB - 9/14/2012 3:51:47 AM
      - Greed is one of the Seven Deadly Sins, TB, not the highest aspiration of Man. - bowser - 9/14/2012 6:16:25 AM
        
        Greed and envy. Two sides of the same coin. - RobVG - 9/15/2012 3:36:31 PM
        
        Re: Greed is one of the Seven Deadly Sins, TB, not the highest aspiration of Man. - TB - 9/14/2012 4:15:50 PM
        
        As a professing Christian, please explain how Greed is good. - bowser - 9/14/2012 4:56:11 PM
        
        His coming answer. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B718RsboGEI - bowser - 9/14/2012 5:03:23 PM
        
        You know, it's not that bad. - RobVG - 9/14/2012 4:27:27 PM
        
        You know what? Forget it. Trashed my response. - TB - 9/14/2012 5:18:04 PM
        
        As a professing Christian, please explain how Greed is good. - bowser - 9/15/2012 4:42:01 AM
        
        Implementing them would be impossible. I know that. - bowser - 9/14/2012 4:52:38 PM
- Re: A letter from Galt's Gulch - Jody - 9/13/2012 2:16:29 PM
  - We're not that far apart. - ER - 9/13/2012 2:30:57 PM
    - Re: We're not that far apart. - Jody - 9/13/2012 3:59:49 PM
      - "Define fruits of your labors please." - ER - 9/13/2012 4:51:34 PM
        
        Re: "Define fruits of your labors please." - Jody - 9/13/2012 6:03:16 PM

Jes sayin'... - Jody - 9/15/2012 2:17:40 AM
- Have you ever looked at what the US has done to Muslims in the last 100 years? - bowser - 9/15/2012 4:41:07 AM
- Maybe we need more movies. - ER - 9/15/2012 2:56:02 AM

Several other dogs which don't bark. - bowser - 9/11/2012 7:50:35 AM
- Defending from what, constant BS? Why would anyone bother. - RobVG - 9/11/2012 11:40:44 PM
  - When your military is ineffective, can't win wars, costs more than anyone elses - - - - bowser - 9/12/2012 1:12:50 AM
    - Macabre Point? - RobVG - 9/12/2012 1:44:35 AM
      - It ain't just a redneck fantasy. - ER - 9/12/2012 2:41:57 AM
        
        Well that too.... - RobVG - 9/12/2012 2:57:26 AM
      - Armed insurrections should be armed. - alcaray - 9/12/2012 2:22:51 AM
        
        The bad guys will always have weapons. Always. - TB - 9/12/2012 2:58:30 AM
        
        yep - RobVG - 9/14/2012 4:34:02 AM
        
        "It’s usually number one on the list of what bad guys want to acquire." - ER - 9/12/2012 3:32:41 AM
        
        Re: "It’s usually number one on the list of what bad guys want to acquire." - TB - 9/12/2012 3:45:44 AM
        
        You mean, like genocide? - ER - 9/12/2012 4:11:39 AM
        
        "Black and white." - TB - 9/12/2012 4:00:59 PM
        
        I fail to see how Wikipedia contradicts anything I said. - ER - 9/12/2012 4:25:42 PM
        
        Contradicts your single point? No. More complex? Yes. - TB - 9/12/2012 4:45:05 PM
        
        ? - ER - 9/12/2012 5:10:02 PM
- Left out Vietnam. Our military has lost 3 wars in a row. Out of 3. - bowser - 9/11/2012 10:47:41 PM

"Behind the Front Page", by David Broder - bowser - 9/13/2012 9:29:12 PM

I've had an interest in foreign policy since I was a kid. No BS here: Romney scares the sh*t out of me! - BuckGalaxy - 9/13/2012 3:04:20 AM
- The man is not evil. - ER - 9/13/2012 2:09:38 PM
  - If Obama wins it will be nice to see a moment of honesty from TB about what a lousy candidate Romney was. - BuckGalaxy - 9/13/2012 4:59:54 PM
    - Tom will say he lost because he wasn't a true conservative. - ER - 9/13/2012 5:13:15 PM
- Are you serious? - TB - 9/13/2012 3:22:17 AM
  - LOL that's rich! - BuckGalaxy - 9/13/2012 3:47:51 AM
    - See? That's what "carrying water" looks like. - TB - 9/13/2012 4:13:48 AM
      - So what does that graph prove? - BuckGalaxy - 9/13/2012 7:51:35 AM
        
        "Blocked?" - TB - 9/13/2012 3:27:23 PM
        
        Blocked! - alcaray - 9/13/2012 9:22:24 PM
        
        Yeah the world is burning down, except it's not... - BuckGalaxy - 9/13/2012 5:01:48 PM
  - You think we should have kept Gaddafi in power? - alcaray - 9/13/2012 3:25:54 AM

The Smirk - BuckGalaxy - 9/13/2012 8:10:35 AM
- Crisis on. Where's Obama? - TB - 9/13/2012 2:00:12 PM
  - Yes the world is burning down, except it's not... - BuckGalaxy - 9/13/2012 5:00:48 PM

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