"Again, what specifically would you consider evidence of "a clear and present danger," and how many lives would you estimate the presentation of this evidence would cost? A gun only smokes after it is fired."
And its only self defense when they attack you. Thats what it is, Tom! Clear and Present would be Sadam caught in the act of trying to deploy WMD against USA or an ally. Clear and Present would be any attack outside of Iraq. So this has been going on for 12 years, when did it become clear and present??
"Everyone talks about the dangers of war. Nobody talks about the equally possible dangers of leaving Saddam alone."
Again, I am not advocating he be left alone, just kept in a little box. So far its worked for more than a decade.
"Apparently, a madman possessing weapons of mass destruction, and who has actually used them before, does not seem to fill the bill as dangerous. I find this particularly hilarious coming from a number of people who are also convinced that no private American citizen should own a gun lest he someday shoot someone with it. "
When will you give this up, Tom? I am armed and pro firearms, and I've told you that 100 times. Atre you trying to argue with me or the people who are not here?
Tom, as I said and proved in my post to tech1, there are MANY WMD armed madmen in this world who hate us. We killed several of Quack-dalfi's family, and he hates us with blood rage and he has WMD. Why are we not drawing a bead on Libya, Syria the rest of them?
"alone"
We have left him alone and in a box for 12 years and, last I checked, he had not used WMD against anyone or do anything more than take simpering littl pot-shots at allied jets enforcing the no-fly zone.
but, tom, my main argument is that this will harm our national interests because of our failure to legitimize this way (see the thread with tech1 and Matt)
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- Bush gives a great press conference
- Re: Bush gives a great press conference
- Ran rings around?
- Only His Doctor Knows for Sure
- "WHEN IT COMES TO OUR SECURITY, we really don't need anybody's permission."
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- Here is the evidence that Sadam is a Clear and Present Threat to the United States Civilian population
- Re: Here is the evidence that Sadam is a Clear and Present Threat to the United States Civilian population
- You apparently have set "Your Bar for war" irrationally high
- I guess you didn't read the whole article
- Re: Here is the evidence that Sadam is a Clear and Present Threat to the United States Civilian population
- I guess you missed Colin Powell's presentation to the UN a few weeks ago
- Here is the evidence that Sadam is a Clear and Present Threat to the United States Civilian population
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- "My job is to protect America and that’s exactly what I’m going to do."
- HOGWASH!
- Re: HOGWASH!
- Re: HOGWASH! Well said n/t (n/t)
- There's so much nonsense in your post I'm not even sure where to start
- Pompous bleating...
- HOGWASH!
- Re: Bush gives a great press conference
