I guess my outlook on principles vs ideals isn't universal. Your ideal is certainly an admirable one. My goal here though was for people to present basic guidelines for making moral decisions in a nonideal world. I consider those to be moral principles not the even more basic ideals we wish the world lived by. Ideals do help formulate principles though and they do belong in this debate. Sorry for the unwarranted scorn. I'm not really interested in flaming, just annihilating PC thinking.
Your response to my ethical dilema is off course the correct initial approach and two people living your ideal would never fall into it, but it doesn't always work. It only takes one with evil intent to make that situation a potential unless you consider lethal self defense immoral which your ideal may do. I'm asking you to consider what the right thing to do is when being reasonable and rational fails as it does in the real world. The larger scale scenario is an extension of that same dilemma IMO.
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- Does anyone here have basic principles?
- Libertarian principles
- Doncha just hate it
- Not really surprised...
- Hey!! I LIKE Kool-Aid!
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- OK? I LIKE KOOL-AID!! its not kool to have aids o ya and have you every thoaght a purple omlete to sing??
- Hey!! I LIKE Kool-Aid!
- Not really surprised...
- Doncha just hate it
- Lot's of argueing, few principles.
- Good Job. n/t (n/t)
- Do you? What are they?
- Zen and the art of principled behavior.
- The inviolate sanctity of individual human beings (n/t)
- If you want a utopia, elect me as your Imperious Leader. (n/t)
- re: A basic principle
- Care to be more specific?
- My principle after 9/11/2001
- I think quite a few, actually, on both sides. Just my opinion. (n/t)
- Look out, Tom -- the self-appointed philosophy police are after you . . . (n/t)
- You know what's interesting...
- They would be related to the self-appointed patriotism police... (n/t)
- just aren't willing to admit what they are eh? (n/t)
- Look out, Tom -- the self-appointed philosophy police are after you . . . (n/t)
- Libertarian principles
