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do you mean Zell is sort of like algore calling the President a traitor in exactly so many words?

ebnelson — 9/4/2004 5:18:01 PM (archived)

Zel specifically did not call Kerry a traitor, but from the reaction of the Kerrykrats, it seems they see something in Kerry that is very vulnerable to the charge, perhaps.
Ed

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Ok time for our HZ duel. Atomic weapons at 40 paces. - Art Martin - 9/3/2004 5:58:01 PM
- I finally saw the interview - R.L. - 9/4/2004 7:01:19 AM
- Chris deserves to be bitch slapped for the way he treated Michelle Malkin - ebnelson - 9/4/2004 4:25:48 AM
  - So why didn't the bitch slap him herself? - Mary Anne - 9/4/2004 4:56:24 PM
    - There are better ways to bitchslap someone nowadays. - Tom Brosz - 9/4/2004 8:40:12 PM
      - Malkin's attempt to imply otherwise were equally obvious. - Mary Anne - 9/4/2004 9:27:38 PM
        
        Did you read the Hardball transcript? - Larry J - 9/6/2004 10:48:49 PM
        
        I read it - R.L. - 9/8/2004 2:35:53 AM
        
        Complaining about the use of proper terminology is absurd - Larry J - 9/8/2004 1:23:36 PM
        
        Yes, that seems to be the current right-wing viewpoint- all statements are open to politically convinient interpretation. - Davin L. - 9/8/2004 3:55:39 PM
        
        Why was he asking her about the book in the first place? - Larry J - 9/8/2004 4:25:57 PM
        
        Here ya go - Tony - 9/8/2004 5:40:42 PM
        
        And you still don't get it - Larry J - 9/8/2004 7:57:01 PM
        
        Good grief - Tony - 9/8/2004 8:06:08 PM
        
        Go read the bold face from the transcript - Larry J - 9/9/2004 7:39:25 PM
        
        One last time unto the breach - Tony - 9/9/2004 8:25:11 PM
        
        re: One last time unto the breach - gbaikie - 9/9/2004 10:38:44 PM
        
        This is part of a plot to drive Tony crazy, right? (n/t) - alcaray - 9/10/2004 12:40:56 AM
        
        It did. But I got better ;-) - Tony - 9/10/2004 3:15:25 PM
        
        re: It did. But I got better ;-) - gbaikie - 9/10/2004 7:30:05 PM
        
        You are turning into a cartoon (n/t) - alcaray - 9/10/2004 7:47:03 PM
        
        When presented with a clear statement of empirical fact, change the subject - Davin L. - 9/8/2004 5:25:32 PM
        
        re: When presented with a clear statement of empirical fact, change the subject - Larry J - 9/8/2004 8:21:49 PM
        
        Then, when people still refuse to concede a point to you when you are wrong, call them stupid - Davin L. - 9/9/2004 8:21:07 PM
        
        Yes, I have. And saw the video. (n/t) - Mary Anne - 9/6/2004 11:29:19 PM
        
        You should read the article Tom links to. (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/4/2004 9:42:19 PM
        
        I have. I have also considered the source, and watched her on video. (n/t) - Mary Anne - 9/4/2004 10:24:46 PM
    - Actually, Chris lied to her about why she was even there - ebnelson - 9/4/2004 5:16:05 PM
      - Another "What Mary Anne said" - Robert - 9/4/2004 6:28:13 PM
        
        "Asian Ann Coulter" - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/5/2004 5:34:46 AM
        
        I return what I'm given. - Mary Anne - 9/5/2004 7:55:10 PM
        
        You slay me, Techie - Robert - 9/5/2004 6:55:14 PM
        
        Techie's back on his high horse - Lindy - 9/8/2004 4:34:25 PM
        
        The transcript is clear - ebnelson - 9/4/2004 7:59:50 PM
        
        Ed, some people say you're a crack addict and you bugger sheep - Robert - 9/5/2004 4:39:03 AM
        
        No, you have what it takes to be a Kerry advisor. (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/5/2004 4:18:22 PM
        
        rHow about this? "Ann Coulter is the blonde Michelle Malkin." - Mary Anne - 9/5/2004 2:59:30 PM
        
        What can I say? - Robert - 9/5/2004 6:44:35 PM
      - Oh, of course. Now why didn't *I* think of that? - Mary Anne - 9/4/2004 5:35:58 PM
        
        Since the commander of the boat on which Kerry was wounded - ebnelson - 9/4/2004 7:56:20 PM
        
        Why have charges not been brought? - Mary Anne - 9/4/2004 8:27:23 PM
        
        Accidentally wounding yourself is not a criminal offense - Larry J - 9/6/2004 2:09:36 AM
        
        Had she said "accidentally wounded himself", we wouldn't be having this conversation. - Mary Anne - 9/6/2004 2:49:11 AM
        
        Just because Mathews (and apparently you) don't like the term... - Larry J - 9/6/2004 6:39:09 PM
        
        Context also includes the audience. - Mary Anne - 9/6/2004 10:21:49 PM
        
        She wasn't on the show to discuss that book at all - Larry J - 9/6/2004 10:42:49 PM
        
        Your own post shows that she was trying to imply that Kerry intentionally wounded himself! - R.L. - 9/8/2004 2:50:24 AM
        
        She was saying something from a book written by someone else - Larry J - 9/8/2004 4:31:24 PM
        
        re: She was saying something from a book written by someone else - R.L. - 9/8/2004 7:08:52 PM
        
        re: She wasn't on the show to discuss that book at all - Mary Anne - 9/6/2004 11:28:13 PM
        
        Could it be that no one really gave a damn until Kerry made it a big deal - ebnelson - 9/4/2004 8:53:30 PM
        
        Fine! File charges today! - Mary Anne - 9/4/2004 9:34:56 PM
        
        'Throw the book at him' - ebnelson - 9/4/2004 9:44:15 PM
        
        Real evidence. - Mary Anne - 9/4/2004 10:27:29 PM
        
        You mean, unlike what Kerry offers? (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/5/2004 4:19:02 PM
        
        Kerry is not the one making claims that counter the military record, you half witted blathering drunk idiot - Davin L. - 9/7/2004 5:21:13 PM
        
        You may have missed it, but Kerry's lies about Vietnam are now acknowledged by Kerry - ebnelson - 9/8/2004 9:51:23 PM
        
        "Self-inflicted" is NOT the same as "shooting yourself on purpose." Why doesn't that sink in? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/4/2004 8:41:09 PM
        
        It sure sounds like it though. - Mary Anne - 9/4/2004 9:32:01 PM
        
        Grenades are very indiscriminate, Mary Anne - Larry J - 9/5/2004 11:18:10 PM
        
        I understand that. - Mary Anne - 9/6/2004 2:57:37 AM
        
        Michelle was quoting the book, and incorrectly thought Chris had bothered to read it. - ebnelson - 9/4/2004 9:37:58 PM
        
        Understand me: I want this settled, one way or the other. - Mary Anne - 9/4/2004 10:33:23 PM
        
        His is the story that keeps changing, and since he has repeated his version for decades - ebnelson - 9/5/2004 4:21:32 PM
- Chris Mathews is a pompus ass who is in love with the sound of his own voice - Larry J - 9/3/2004 7:00:59 PM
  - re: Chris Mathews is a pompus ass who is in love with the sound of his own voice - Anne Thompson - 9/11/2004 7:06:10 AM
  - Try watching the interview - Tony - 9/3/2004 7:43:50 PM
  - and Miller didn't know this going in? What planet has he been living on? - Art Martin - 9/3/2004 7:41:37 PM
    - You're falling for the stereotypes - Larry J - 9/3/2004 8:57:39 PM
      - re: You're falling for the stereotypes - Art Martin - 9/3/2004 11:22:51 PM
      - Amazing - Tony - 9/3/2004 9:24:09 PM
        
        re: Amazing - Larry J - 9/3/2004 9:55:04 PM
- The saddest part is: - Davin L. - 9/3/2004 6:08:20 PM
  - do you mean Zell is sort of like algore calling the President a traitor in exactly so many words? - ebnelson - 9/4/2004 5:18:01 PM
  - corection - Davin L. - 9/3/2004 6:09:19 PM
- You know the answer. - Bowser - 9/3/2004 6:07:43 PM

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