Quite a complicated model you have

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Quite a complicated model you have

alcaray — 9/10/2004 12:37:27 AM (archived)

For me it is more of a nature/nurture and predestination/choice division. I am more on the nurture/choice side. MA is more on the nature/predestination side. [MA needs to step in and slap me down for mis-stating her opinion, right about now - I'm sure I've got it wrong, somewhere.]

Being on the nurture/choice side does not leave me with any negative feelings about gays. People can do what they want in their free time. And gays suffer a LOT just for being gay in our culture. My second-best friend in the world is gay. I've associated, been friends with, and worked with many. I've danced at a gay club with someone I'm still sure was female, but my buddy asserts was a guy (and won't let me hear the end of it). Oh yeah: I've raised a lot of funds over the years for Aids Project Los Angeles - dance-a-thons & walk-a-thons.

Advice to those who haven't made this mistake: don't try to fix up two gay guys. Most embarrassing moment of my life when one was too over-the-top nellie for the other.

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Pussy whipped - Art Martin - 9/9/2004 5:39:44 PM
- fun thread - Art Martin - 9/11/2004 5:58:26 AM
  - Also watching from the sideline. - jms - 9/13/2004 1:19:26 AM
  - Agreed... - Tom Brosz - 9/11/2004 7:05:39 AM
- re: Characterizations - Fox - 9/10/2004 6:37:29 PM
  - There's supposed to be a ritual mugging to get into the GOP, no? (n/t) - alcaray - 9/10/2004 7:31:49 PM
    - Yah - I've heard it involves wooden paddles inscribed with a Skull and Bones (n/t) - Fox - 9/10/2004 8:50:34 PM
- Don't you know it's all about scoring points? The chicks don't get that..... - Tony - 9/10/2004 6:17:11 PM
  - Feminine side? - Mary Anne - 9/10/2004 11:58:48 PM
- It is called respect - REB - 9/10/2004 5:59:59 PM
  - I hold doors open for men, too. - Mary Anne - 9/10/2004 11:57:05 PM
    - As do I. (n/t) - Art Martin - 9/11/2004 5:36:02 AM
- re: Lysistrata - Mary Anne - 9/10/2004 5:37:34 PM
  - Knew you had it in you. - Art Martin - 9/10/2004 8:37:36 PM
    - "If there's one thing that comes out of this thread..." - Robert - 9/11/2004 2:57:32 AM
      - LOL! (I call for a vote) - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/11/2004 4:16:52 AM
        
        Do you think that everyone in the world is talking about you? - Mary Anne - 9/11/2004 11:53:36 AM
        
        "Imagine a world in which everyone had a blog." - Fox - 9/11/2004 6:17:51 PM
        
        No vote necessary. - et - 9/11/2004 6:55:12 AM
        
        et tu. - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/11/2004 7:36:03 AM
        
        Tu Brutus for you? Stick to fiction. - et - 9/11/2004 5:53:33 PM
        
        WTF are you braying about? - tony - 9/11/2004 4:49:47 AM
        
        re: WTF are you braying about? - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/11/2004 8:05:00 AM
        
        SDAI just forgot his meds again - R.L. - 9/11/2004 5:28:50 AM
  - I think Tech was hoping for a river of blood,,, - alcaray - 9/10/2004 7:29:41 PM
    - I haven't gotten to him yet. - Mary Anne - 9/10/2004 7:47:13 PM
- Poor Art! - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/10/2004 12:31:29 AM
  - For you, I count to 100. - Mary Anne - 9/10/2004 9:20:33 PM
    - Better make it a thousand. ;-) - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/11/2004 1:51:24 AM
    - Woo Hoo! - Lindy - 9/10/2004 10:33:54 PM
  - feeling rich now - Art Martin - 9/10/2004 8:13:41 PM
  - re: Poor Art! - gbaikie - 9/10/2004 3:29:15 AM
- I think you're trying too hard. - Tom Brosz - 9/9/2004 11:50:47 PM
  - Yeah, well, I've been sloppy lately too. - Mary Anne - 9/10/2004 7:07:43 PM
  - Not what I've observed Tom - Art Martin - 9/10/2004 12:03:03 AM
- re: Pussy whipped - gbaikie - 9/9/2004 9:42:36 PM
  - Has a good beat and is easy to dance to. - Mary Anne - 9/10/2004 7:01:32 PM
    - re: Has a good beat and is easy to dance to. - gbaikie - 9/10/2004 8:01:17 PM
      - Geoff... - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/11/2004 1:16:39 AM
        
        advantage of being a 'gullible newbie' - Daniel - 9/11/2004 9:13:18 AM
      - You noticed he was racist too? (n/t) - Lindy - 9/10/2004 10:35:46 PM
        
        This from the woman who wants to round up all the Mexicans in Florida! (LOL) (n/t) - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/11/2004 12:35:27 AM
      - I can't tell when you're being childish. - Mary Anne - 9/10/2004 8:35:44 PM
        
        re: I can't tell when you're being childish. - gbaikie - 9/10/2004 10:14:19 PM
        
        *wince* - Beth - 9/11/2004 4:22:33 AM
  - I disagreed with MA on only one occasion that I recall - alcaray - 9/9/2004 11:37:48 PM
    - re: I disagreed with MA on only one occasion that I recall - Art Martin - 9/9/2004 11:58:10 PM
      - re: observations - Fox - 9/10/2004 3:27:40 AM
      - I do want to see what response you get on this one. Hint: you're in trouble. LOL! (n/t) - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/10/2004 12:43:30 AM
      - Quite a complicated model you have - alcaray - 9/10/2004 12:37:27 AM
        
        re: a complicated model - Fox - 9/10/2004 2:26:49 AM
  - Robotic? - Art Martin - 9/9/2004 10:07:19 PM
- One reason and one reason only... - McFly - 9/9/2004 8:59:00 PM
  - Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition! - Mary Anne - 9/10/2004 6:40:28 PM
- Even the title of your thread helps answers your own question, IMO - Daniel L - 9/9/2004 6:42:42 PM
  - I take umbrage with that remark Daniel........... - Lindy - 9/10/2004 11:06:41 PM
    - "over here" meant "over here in Australia", Lindy (n/t) - Daniel - 9/11/2004 8:52:11 AM
      - Whew! Thanks...I thought you may have read me wrong. (n/t) - Lindy - 9/11/2004 4:01:15 PM
    - re: I take umbrage with that remark Daniel........... - Art Martin - 9/11/2004 5:45:32 AM
      - I appreciate that, Art........... - Lindy - 9/11/2004 3:59:23 PM
  - Sex and Sensibility - Mary Anne - 9/10/2004 6:35:29 PM
    - re: Sex and Sensibility - Daniel - 9/10/2004 7:50:57 PM
      - re: Sex and Sensibility - Fox - 9/12/2004 3:31:15 PM
      - My experience with Austrailian women (PG rated) - Art Martin - 9/10/2004 9:43:45 PM
        
        I visited Perth for the first time just last February - Daniel - 9/11/2004 8:34:27 AM
      - I stand corrected! - Mary Anne - 9/10/2004 8:11:52 PM
        
        correct! - Daniel - 9/10/2004 8:29:22 PM
  - Tend to agree - Davin L. - 9/9/2004 9:56:17 PM
    - Desk Set - Mary Anne - 9/10/2004 11:49:13 PM
    - agreed - including the qualifier 'some' (n/t) - Daniel - 9/10/2004 3:28:28 PM
    - Smart and outspoken women tend to catch you off guard. - Art Martin - 9/9/2004 10:24:13 PM
      - point taken (n/t) - Daniel - 9/10/2004 8:10:34 AM
      - It's been a 12-hour day, Art. I'll get to it. :) - Mary Anne - 9/10/2004 1:26:25 AM
  - re: Even the title of your thread helps answers your own question, IMO - Art Martin - 9/9/2004 7:58:39 PM
  - correction - - Daniel - 9/9/2004 6:46:25 PM
- I treat MaryAnne with a great deal of care, too - alcaray - 9/9/2004 6:36:40 PM
  - Well, what's the point of posting if I don't keep up with the conversation? - Mary Anne - 9/10/2004 5:56:06 PM
    - No asbestos necessary. - alcaray - 9/10/2004 7:00:43 PM
  - It's called "raising the bar" - Fox - 9/9/2004 7:33:32 PM
    - Teaching myself by example - Mary Anne - 9/11/2004 12:11:38 AM
    - Well put (n/t) - Art Martin - 9/10/2004 8:43:57 PM

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