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Thats not what you said.
Please show the evidence that SS delivers 2-3% > inflation?
ebnelson
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2/8/2005 1:46:34 PM
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That is a stat I am not aware of.
Thanks,
Ed
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Serious Insecurities concerning Social Security 'Reform'
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Davin L.
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2/4/2005 7:33:36 PM
My plan to reform Social Security
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David F Mayer
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2/6/2005 5:30:47 PM
Thats actually a pretty good idea, IMO
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Davin :.
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2/6/2005 6:03:03 PM
If it "over-funds" the system, just cut the tax rate. Simple.
(n/t)
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David F Mayer
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2/7/2005 4:08:06 AM
The late Senator Moynahan proposed that several years ago
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Larry J
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2/7/2005 7:08:41 PM
The system is currently overfunded as it is
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Larry J
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2/6/2005 10:34:10 PM
Not if it is to become a VESTED system with assets backing liabilities.
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David F Mayer
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2/7/2005 4:11:01 AM
Question - where did you come up with your $20 trillion figure
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Larry J
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2/7/2005 3:39:53 PM
re: Question - where did you come up with your $20 trillion figure
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Tom Brosz
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2/7/2005 7:08:06 PM
As in the estate tax...
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Larry J
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2/7/2005 8:09:19 PM
re: As in the estate tax...
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Tom Brosz
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2/7/2005 8:16:33 PM
I agree about the homes
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Larry J
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2/7/2005 8:39:49 PM
But the simple solution still remains
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Davin :.
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2/7/2005 8:57:33 PM
I don't think it's a viable solution
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Larry J
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2/7/2005 9:51:52 PM
Interesting thoughts - can't help but think of global warming...
(n/t)
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LJ
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2/8/2005 4:39:23 AM
re: The system is currently overfunded as it is
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Davin :.
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2/6/2005 11:31:08 PM
re: The system is currently overfunded as it is
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Larry J
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2/7/2005 7:03:18 PM
good dates and numbers
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Davin L.
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2/7/2005 10:23:27 PM
A forecasts have to be taken with a grain of salt
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Larry J
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2/8/2005 2:52:12 PM
Analogies to personal finance are consistently misleading when talking about Gov't finance
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Davin :.
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2/8/2005 3:26:57 PM
Some good stuff.
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Tom Brosz
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2/8/2005 5:19:09 PM
Thanks
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Davin :.
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2/9/2005 12:04:41 AM
re: Dogma
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Tom Brosz
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2/9/2005 6:55:19 AM
re: Dogma
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Davin :.
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2/9/2005 5:23:40 PM
Dogma, or just reality?
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Tom Brosz
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2/9/2005 8:34:08 PM
re: The system is currently overfunded as it is
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Davin L.
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2/7/2005 9:52:02 PM
Interesting how politics works...
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Tom Brosz
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2/7/2005 10:42:08 PM
See Tom, See Tom Spin
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Davin L.
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2/7/2005 11:40:25 PM
re: Spin
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Tom Brosz
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2/8/2005 12:50:47 AM
corrected HTML
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Davin L.
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2/7/2005 9:55:03 PM
I could live with that.
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Tom Brosz
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2/6/2005 9:10:46 PM
Not to mention the dark secret that people are only just realizing..
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Tony
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2/4/2005 9:08:14 PM
The only true fix for SS
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ebnelson
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2/5/2005 12:39:55 PM
thats hogwash.
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Davin :.
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2/5/2005 5:09:21 PM
If it is hogwash to point out that a system that confiscates 15% of US payrolls is unfair, so be it.
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ebnelson
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2/6/2005 7:00:59 AM
Thats not what you said.
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Davin :.
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2/6/2005 5:44:20 PM
Please show the evidence that SS delivers 2-3% > inflation?
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ebnelson
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2/8/2005 1:46:34 PM
Please read what I wrote
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Davin :.
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2/8/2005 2:03:08 PM
Long term T rates
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ebnelson
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2/8/2005 7:48:13 PM
re: Long term T rates
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Davin :.
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2/8/2005 8:08:41 PM
More to the point
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Davin L.
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2/4/2005 10:29:21 PM
re: No big secret.
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Tom Brosz
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2/4/2005 10:24:28 PM
Tom hit the BS buzzer
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DL
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2/4/2005 10:34:13 PM
So the fix is to simply confiscate more and more money?
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ebnelson
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2/5/2005 12:43:16 PM
Why are you incapable of reading what I wrote?
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Davin L.
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2/5/2005 4:54:54 PM
If you don't understand how the system works, perhpas you should learn a bit before declaring it wonderful?
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ebnelson
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2/6/2005 7:03:35 AM
God, Eb, its pointless talking to you
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Davin :.
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2/6/2005 5:27:29 PM
Further, they always claim that it must get worse and worse
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alcaray
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2/5/2005 3:36:50 AM
Bartleby the Scrivener
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Melville
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2/4/2005 11:04:28 PM
Does anyone else see the political weirdness here?
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Tom Brosz
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2/4/2005 10:58:38 PM
Not my problem, Tom, that you have a propensity for strawman arguments and distorting positions you disagree with
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Davin L.
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2/4/2005 11:16:53 PM
More on the Amazing Vanishing Social Security Crisis
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Tom Brosz
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2/5/2005 1:34:21 AM
The DNC choice to take the position that after all the years of claiming there was a crisis, now there isn't one, will not hold up.
(n/t)
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ebnelson
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2/5/2005 12:45:01 PM
again
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Davin :.
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2/5/2005 6:14:45 AM
re: Social Security as welfare
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Tom Brosz
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2/5/2005 8:30:01 PM
"Wealth redistribution"
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Mary Anne
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2/6/2005 4:27:51 AM
re: "Wealth redistribution"
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Tom Brosz
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2/6/2005 8:53:55 PM
Money isn't everything.
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Mary Anne
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2/6/2005 9:41:27 PM
"Society owes them?" You really want to go there?
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Tom Brosz
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2/6/2005 10:14:51 PM
You show a complete lack of understanding that there is more to the social contract than money and property..
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Mary Anne
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2/6/2005 11:30:13 PM
The church does not have a gun.
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Tom Brosz
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2/7/2005 12:02:55 AM
No. Only the threat of Hell.
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Mary Anne
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2/7/2005 2:10:45 AM
re: No. Only the threat of Hell.
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Tom Brosz
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2/7/2005 2:32:20 AM
OK: so according to you...
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Mary Anne
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2/7/2005 3:41:19 AM
re: OK
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Tom Brosz
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2/7/2005 4:14:11 AM
Also
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Davin :.
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2/6/2005 11:33:00 PM
"The best things in life are free."
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Tom Brosz
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2/7/2005 12:05:51 AM
correction, misread something Tom said
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Davin L.
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2/4/2005 11:25:12 PM
No problem.
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Tom Brosz
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2/4/2005 11:55:04 PM
What Ed said.
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Tom Brosz
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2/4/2005 8:36:34 PM
re: What Ed said.
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Davin L.
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2/4/2005 10:55:02 PM
Investment stuff
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Tom Brosz
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2/5/2005 12:30:11 AM
more later, if I can, but
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Davin L.
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2/5/2005 2:38:15 AM
What Bush said today: "Everything is on the table except payroll tax increases."
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Tom Brosz
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2/5/2005 12:04:58 AM
Very good points
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ebnelson
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2/4/2005 8:00:36 PM
HabitableZone — be civil, or at least entertaining.