I think if you look through the posts, I am discussing (as reasonably as I can) the various options being floated by you and others.
However, to overlook the raw political implications of this, which often outweighs other considerations in Washington, is to overlook the real battle.
I think if everyone can finally admit to themselves that Social Security is a welfare program to protect the poor and unlucky among the elderly, we can move on to treating it like one, introducing means testing for benefits, and other such things.
I have learned to live with most of my taxes simply ending up in someone else's pocket instead of imagining that they are being "stored away" for my retirement or somehow returned to me for my benefit. I can live with my Social Security tax doing the same thing.
Might be a good idea not to use the loaded word "welfare," But the government should have no problem coming up with yet another euphemism for wealth redistribution.
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re: Social Security as welfare
The whole thread (75 posts)
- Serious Insecurities concerning Social Security 'Reform'
- My plan to reform Social Security
- Thats actually a pretty good idea, IMO
- If it "over-funds" the system, just cut the tax rate. Simple. (n/t)
- The system is currently overfunded as it is
- Not if it is to become a VESTED system with assets backing liabilities.
- re: The system is currently overfunded as it is
- I could live with that.
- Thats actually a pretty good idea, IMO
- Not to mention the dark secret that people are only just realizing..
- The only true fix for SS
- More to the point
- re: No big secret.
- Tom hit the BS buzzer
- So the fix is to simply confiscate more and more money?
- Further, they always claim that it must get worse and worse
- Bartleby the Scrivener
- Does anyone else see the political weirdness here?
- Not my problem, Tom, that you have a propensity for strawman arguments and distorting positions you disagree with
- More on the Amazing Vanishing Social Security Crisis
- The DNC choice to take the position that after all the years of claiming there was a crisis, now there isn't one, will not hold up. (n/t)
- again
- correction, misread something Tom said
- More on the Amazing Vanishing Social Security Crisis
- Not my problem, Tom, that you have a propensity for strawman arguments and distorting positions you disagree with
- Tom hit the BS buzzer
- What Ed said.
- Very good points
- My plan to reform Social Security
