re: Faith is faith

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re: Faith is faith

Yeti — 10/29/2008 7:11:43 PM (archived)

And ignorance is ignorance.

I'm sorry, but there is more empirical validity in Cargo Cultism than there is in any of the worlds major spiritual beliefs. Most doubt cast by religion on religion is in service of strengthening religious faith( 'We have reason to doubt the benevolence of g/God? Well, all the more reason for FAITH! '), or denegrating one religion in service of another.

There is no Baby in the bathwater of religion. Best to throw it all out. The human race is grown up now, we need neither Cosmic Santas nor Universe-spanning demons in closets. Time to put away out childish things.

Yeti

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The Christian Man's Evolution: How Darwinism and Faith Can Coexist - Socrates II - 10/27/2008 9:59:49 PM
- re: The Christian Man's Evolution: How Darwinism and Faith Can Coexist - Marcia - 10/29/2008 8:28:37 PM
  - It is mainly fundamentalist Protestants and Muslims who take the Bible/Koran literally who have the problem - Socrates II - 10/30/2008 1:27:38 PM
    - I have a grating ambivalence about the Latin Mass. - Mary Anne - 10/31/2008 10:10:21 AM
    - I know a lot of Christians - REB - 10/30/2008 1:50:33 PM
- re: The Christian Man's Evolution: How Darwinism and Faith Can Coexist - REB - 10/29/2008 7:26:23 PM
  - Faith v critical thinking - Raoul - 10/29/2008 8:21:33 PM
    - re: Faith v critical thinking. - Absolutely and... - Marcia - 10/29/2008 8:40:22 PM
    - re: Faith v critical thinking - Marcia - 10/29/2008 8:33:03 PM
      - re: Faith v critical thinking... btw... - Marcia - 10/29/2008 8:34:29 PM
    - Science limits you to our physical universe. - REB - 10/29/2008 8:28:32 PM
      - re: Science rules - Raoul - 10/30/2008 8:43:24 PM
        
        re: Science rules - REB - 10/31/2008 1:41:27 PM
      - And - REB - 10/29/2008 8:42:01 PM
        
        Don't forget the mice... - Nick Hoffman - 10/29/2008 10:12:48 PM
        
        I love the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy - REB - 10/30/2008 12:07:48 PM
        
        Supernovae happen all over the Universe all the time - Socrates II - 10/30/2008 12:24:56 PM
        
        Self aware matter is very rare in the universe. - REB - 10/30/2008 1:32:34 PM
        
        Allow me to clarify - Socrates II - 10/30/2008 1:58:17 PM
        
        re: Allow me to clarify - REB - 10/30/2008 2:16:31 PM
        
        I figured you understood the Cosmic Scale - Socrates II - 10/30/2008 2:20:18 PM
        
        It was a neat experience. - REB - 10/30/2008 2:31:45 PM
        
        Oh yeah - Socrates II - 10/30/2008 2:46:59 PM
        
        re: Oh yeah - REB - 10/30/2008 3:01:00 PM
        
        re: Don't forget the mice... - Marcia - 10/30/2008 12:12:27 AM
        
        re: And.... - Marcia - 10/29/2008 9:09:26 PM
- [Moved from Space] - Space Moderator Nick - 10/29/2008 12:40:16 AM
  - Well, I was hoping things would stick to the science end - Socrates II - 10/29/2008 12:20:16 PM
    - Yep... the title of your post defined the direction. (n/t) - Jody - 10/29/2008 12:36:47 PM
      - Oh sure, blame me - Socrates II - 10/29/2008 12:43:43 PM
        
        No, it's the *Poster's* fault, Socrates II... - Moderator Nick - 10/29/2008 1:23:33 PM
        
        Yikes - this is the problem with text Internet - Socrates II - 10/29/2008 1:35:59 PM
        
        Note that it's getting about 3 or 4 times the discussion on OT - Space Moderator Nick - 10/29/2008 10:09:37 PM
        
        See what happened to us during the Enlightenment? - Socrates II - 10/30/2008 1:42:47 PM
        
        Great post Socrates II !!! - Jody - 10/30/2008 3:19:13 PM
        
        Nah, just getting a wee bit wiser - Socrates II - 10/30/2008 4:59:59 PM
        
        Oh my....You mean your intentions were misunderstood? - Jody - 10/29/2008 6:23:09 PM
        
        LOL!!! (n/t) - Jody - 10/29/2008 12:50:06 PM
- Well, I"ll be! - Jody - 10/29/2008 12:20:11 AM
- Most Christian religions choose not to tell God how to work. - Bowser - 10/28/2008 2:55:19 AM
  - As Galileo once allegedly said - Socrates II - 10/29/2008 12:29:47 PM
- re: The Christian Man's Evolution - Post Sputnik - 10/28/2008 1:16:41 AM
  - If you think that science has disproven religion, then you are as whacky as... - alcaray - 10/28/2008 4:20:26 AM
    - Didn't it? - Raoul - 10/29/2008 9:06:22 AM
    - I can't disprove that there is a tea kettle in orbit around Pluto. - Yeti - 10/28/2008 4:38:20 AM
      - You know someone someday... - Socrates II - 10/29/2008 12:36:41 PM
        
        re: going to deposit a teakettle somewhere in interplanetary space - Yeti - 10/29/2008 7:06:43 PM
      - Yeti!!! - Jody - 10/29/2008 12:27:57 AM
      - Yeti's right - TB - 10/28/2008 8:28:05 PM
        
        Moral codes of a community, such as those expressed by ' Midwestern Christians ' are not the cause of moral knowledge - Yeti - 10/30/2008 2:23:12 AM
        
        re: Moral knowledge - TB - 10/30/2008 3:01:07 AM
      - Religion itself casts doubt on religion. - alcaray - 10/28/2008 5:03:49 AM
        
        re: Faith is faith - Yeti - 10/29/2008 7:11:43 PM
        
        I think there's not much purpose in debating religion with... - alcaray - 10/29/2008 10:02:55 PM
        
        You miss my point entirely, Alcaray. - Yeti - 10/30/2008 1:58:36 AM
        
        I think that religion is about as old as symbolic language. - alcaray - 10/30/2008 3:30:40 AM
        
        We all have faith..EVERY last one of us. - Jody - 10/29/2008 12:34:35 AM
        
        More like probabilities - Socrates II - 10/29/2008 12:19:28 PM
        
        Amazing grace. - Jody - 10/29/2008 12:49:00 PM
      - re: I can't disprove that there is a tea kettle in orbit around Pluto. - Post Sputnik - 10/28/2008 4:54:56 AM
        
        People want comfort and security, not cold hard facts - Socrates II - 10/28/2008 1:18:25 PM
        
        Indeed! - Raoul - 10/29/2008 9:17:53 AM
        
        re: People want comfort and security, not cold hard facts - Post Sputnik - 10/29/2008 2:10:51 AM
        
        There may be "advanced beings" out there, but... - Socrates II - 10/29/2008 12:51:21 PM
        
        Benificient Creator - Lindy - 10/30/2008 11:18:58 PM
        
        That's very subjective - Socrates II - 10/31/2008 2:14:24 AM
        
        re: There may be "advanced beings" out there, but... - Post Sputnik - 10/29/2008 11:49:41 PM
        
        Darwanism and faith can coexist - Lance - 10/28/2008 1:00:02 PM
        
        re: Darwanism and faith can coexist - Post Sputnik - 10/28/2008 1:50:31 PM

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