Hi gb
The Sun's output can be reasonably precisely computed from the solar "constant" and the Earth-Sun distance at that point. To four places it's quoted as 3.847E+26 J/s. It was lower in the past due to the core of the Sun being a little bit cooler. As helium "ash" builds up, the core contracts a little in response to the lowered average fusion output per unit volume. The contraction increases the density and thus the fusion rate a smidge bringing things to a new equilibrium - a slightly hotter core with a higher fusion rate.
Of course Earth's orbital evolution causes what's received from the Sun to vary a bit, thus we get Milankovitch cycles and all that. Antarctica and a largely land surrounded Arctic sea means the planet is susceptible to glaciation cycles controlled by the astronomical cycles too. But the Sun drives the whole show in the long term. Reducing its input by 5% results in freezing conditions unless the greenhouse compensates - which it did half an aeon ago. Increasing the Sun's input by 5% would probably cause the carbon dioxide levels to crash, strangling most of the land plants and driving the biosphere into the remnant oceans. Phytoplankton gets by on much lower CO2 levels and so will survive.
At least that's what the models tell us. The reality will, no doubt, be far stranger...
Space/Science » in reply to re: 5% less insolation is still a big deal
Sun's core is where the action is
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- Media Hype on ´Melting´ Antarctic Ignores Record Ice Growth
- good job linking to a March report instead of current ones
- It isn't just about sea ice. It's the total mass balance of Antarctica
- and the models say increased snowfall in the Antarctic, so no contradiction
- Okay, then Greenland.
- It's the IPCC that counts
- I guess that settles it then.
- never happened
- re: never happened
- speaking of livelihoods, my bet offer is open
- Based on what results?
- re: speaking of livelihoods, my bet offer is open
- speaking of livelihoods, my bet offer is open
- There is a reason it was originally named GREENLAND and not ICELAND. (n/t)
- re: never happened
- never happened
- I guess that settles it then.
- re: Okay, then Greenland.
- It's the IPCC that counts
- Okay, then Greenland.
- and the models say increased snowfall in the Antarctic, so no contradiction
- It isn't just about sea ice. It's the total mass balance of Antarctica
- good job linking to a March report instead of current ones
- Media Hype on ´Melting´ Antarctic Ignores Record Ice Growth
- "Glasser acknowledges that global warming had a major part to play in the collapse," (n/t)
- re: Obviously...
- re: Obviously...
- re: A warmer Finland
- Obviously...
- re: A warmer Finland
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