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<Larry J - Has chip on shoulder the size of Brooklyn Bridge for some reason. Recently given to spouting unsubstantiated crap about Europe. Hero worships Rumsfeld, space and things that go boom. Never once will admit he's wrong but instead claims his knowledge is superior.

Wrong as usual, but then you've never came across as being very bright. But then, I've never been know for suffering fools gladly.

I don't hero worship any politician. Sorry, but "political hero" is a laughable concept. I like Rumsfeld and respect him, but worship? Please.

As for admitting I'm wrong, I've never hesitated to do so when someone shows that I'm mistaken about something. You've just never managed to do so.

As for Europe, our most heated disussion dealt with declining birth rates among the native Europeans and how that affects demographics. You might want to read this:

At present 1.5 babies are born for every European Union woman, when two births are required for the population “replacement rate” to be maintained. Even if women started to have more children again, at younger ages, the tendency to population decline would continue for decades, as there would be too few potential mothers to make a difference.



The findings come from a study by Wolfgang Lutz, of the Austrian Academy of Science in Vienna, and Brian O’Neill, of the International Institute for Applied Systems Analysis in Laxenburg, Austria, using data from the European Demographic Observatory.

They show that Europe’s population could decline by as much as 88 million people if present trends continue for another 15 years. The population of the European Union was about 375 million in 2000.

The decline made Europe the scene of a significant social experiment, Dr Lutz said. “Negative momentum has not been experienced on a large scale in world history so far,” he added.

The model, details of which are published today in the journal Science, does not take into account immigration, which will be required if the population is not to slip dramatically. “We expect continued immigration into Europe, but we wanted to identify these two mechanisms which we think are new and important insights into the nature of population dynamics,” Dr Lutz said.



Now, answer honestly, where is most of the immigration to Europe originating?

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