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Hurrah! - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/29/2008 7:49:04 PM
- THIS IS NOT A $700 BILLION BAIL-OUT OF WALL STREET. THIS IS A $700 BILLION BAIL OUT OF CONGRESSIONAL AND WASHINGTON DC STUPIDITY - TAFKASE - 9/29/2008 9:09:12 PM
- "mega-cathartic" - TB - 9/29/2008 8:15:25 PM
  - Remind yourself to hit your computer with a hammer the next time it hicups - TAFKASE - 9/29/2008 9:11:18 PM
    - You might have a point. - TB - 9/30/2008 3:16:14 PM
  - Free markets. - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/29/2008 8:58:45 PM
    - I guess we know who believes in Capitalism and who does not. - TAFKASE - 9/29/2008 9:13:19 PM
      - Actually... - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/29/2008 9:25:47 PM
        
        The hole in the ground is still there because so many in "LEADERSHIP" are afraid of their shadow (Ie. the voters.) - TAFKASE - 9/29/2008 9:31:43 PM
- Bookmark this folks... - ARRELL - 9/29/2008 8:00:40 PM
  - So one vote against Nancy Pelosi and George Bush is now the equivelent of Civilization Crashing. - TAFKASE - 9/29/2008 9:14:40 PM
    - Oh. Mygod. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha... - Mary Anne - 10/3/2008 8:35:13 PM
  - Socialism is what caused the mess. - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/29/2008 8:23:06 PM
    - Yup- socialism for the wealthy... something you Randian capitalists have really supported a lot lately... (n/t) - Sheesh - 9/29/2008 8:33:14 PM
      - Few here have actually read Rand. - SDAI-Tech1 - 10/4/2008 2:39:40 AM
      - Please point out the "Randians" here who have been enthusiastic about this bailout. (n/t) - TB - 9/29/2008 9:59:23 PM
      - George Soros must stand to lose a lot for the left to be so in support of this bail-out. (n/t) - TAFKASE - 9/29/2008 9:16:16 PM
        
        Are you planning to buy a house or start a business in the next few years? Do you want credit to be available? - alcaray - 9/29/2008 9:37:33 PM
        
        re: my house is paid for - TAFKASE - 9/29/2008 9:43:15 PM
        
        Its all just hilarious for you 'compassionate conservatives' - ARRELL - 10/3/2008 6:42:48 PM
        
        Wow (n/t) - alcaray - 9/30/2008 1:07:26 AM
        
        Don't wish for Hooverville. - Mary Anne - 9/29/2008 9:58:57 PM
        
        Se below... Hoover didn't cause the Great Depression... - TAFKASE - 9/29/2008 10:11:09 PM
        
        Hoovervilles were the names given to the shantytowns... - Mary Anne - 9/29/2008 11:54:00 PM
        
        Talk about cold-blooded - Robert - 9/29/2008 9:51:23 PM
        
        Houses will be plentyful. - Lee - 9/30/2008 2:40:23 AM
        
        Plentiful too! =) (n/t) - Lee - 9/30/2008 2:46:33 AM
        
        I thought us liberals were supposedly being unfair when we called conservatives cold heartless souless bastards... - ARRELL - 9/30/2008 12:12:17 AM
        
        You have it backwards. - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/29/2008 10:02:36 PM
        
        The last depression was exaserbated by the passage of tarrifs on imports. - TAFKASE - 9/29/2008 10:00:39 PM
        
        ...And spelling errors, dont forget those.... (n/t) - ARRELL - 9/30/2008 12:13:34 AM
        
        You're a master of those. - Lee - 9/30/2008 2:43:53 AM
        
        re: Why Hoover gets a bum rap on "Causing the depression" - TAFKASE - 9/29/2008 10:06:09 PM

"So when Joe Biden comes around asking for your support for his presidential run in 2008, let him know that you'd be happy to support him as much as he's supported us. In other words, go jump in a la… - SDAI-Tech1 - 10/3/2008 3:54:02 AM
- About that bank business. - alcaray - 10/3/2008 5:35:04 AM
- Biden must be a real threat or he wouldn't bother you so much. (n/t) - Mary Anne - 10/3/2008 4:06:16 AM
  - That's your response? - SDAI-Tech1 - 10/3/2008 4:24:31 AM
    - I beg to differ. MA's one-liners are not meaningless. (n/t) - alcaray - 10/3/2008 8:47:08 PM
      - Agreed. - SDAI-Tech1 - 10/3/2008 10:11:22 PM
    - Of course it is. - Mary Anne - 10/3/2008 4:34:59 AM
      - You make it sound like we've been married for 20 years. - SDAI-Tech1 - 10/3/2008 5:05:13 AM
        
        Y'all have been arguing for the last 10 years... - REB - 10/3/2008 1:16:42 PM
        
        Too true. - SDAI-Tech1 - 10/3/2008 10:10:21 PM
        
        LOLOL - Mary Anne - 10/3/2008 6:57:45 PM
        
        re: LOLOL - Lindy - 10/3/2008 10:15:19 PM
  - re: That would sure explain the enormous amount of attention Palin has been getting here (n/t) - SteveS - 10/3/2008 4:23:29 AM
    - Oh, you misread that. Everybody pays attention to farce. (n/t) - Mary Anne - 10/3/2008 4:36:33 AM
      - re: At least you have good humor (n/t) - SteveS - 10/3/2008 4:43:35 AM
    - Wow, you are sharp as a pancake there, Steve.... - ARRELL - 10/3/2008 4:33:40 AM
      - re: Went right over your head, it wasn't directed at MA (n/t) - SteveS - 10/3/2008 4:37:20 AM

At last some sense. Who's responsible for the mess. Factcheck.org (and Economist) says almost everyone. - Bowser - 10/3/2008 12:46:50 AM
- That is what I have been saying. - REB - 10/3/2008 12:57:40 PM
  - you and me both - SDG - 10/3/2008 9:07:00 PM
- Finally. - TB - 10/3/2008 2:19:15 AM
  - Common sense has been over shadowed by the sense of entitlement. (n/t) - Jody - 10/3/2008 1:55:02 PM

"U.S. to fund pro-American publicity in Iraq." Adding insult to injury. - Bowser - 10/3/2008 1:54:35 PM

Biden/Palin preview - alcaray - 10/2/2008 12:01:39 AM
- Obviously no one who is supporting McCain, or Palin, has ever seen that. (n/t) - Bowser - 10/2/2008 8:04:27 PM
  - You underestimate the extreme right wing's ability to overlook "stupid." (n/t) - Eri - 10/2/2008 10:39:32 PM
    - You're right. I'm simply amazed. Ideology more important than thinking, knowledge, facts. (n/t) - Bowser - 10/3/2008 1:33:00 AM
    - re: "stupid." - TB - 10/3/2008 12:17:50 AM
      - "ask anybody cold..." - Robert - 10/3/2008 2:58:59 AM
        
        re: "ask anybody cold..." - TB - 10/3/2008 5:31:25 AM
      - Now, TB! "Ask anybody cold which Supreme Court decisions they've disagreed with." - Bowser - 10/3/2008 1:18:33 AM
      - Actually... - Mary Anne - 10/3/2008 1:13:07 AM
    - re: No, just tired of the rookie being slamed when the 30 year veteran has made more mistakes - SteveS - 10/3/2008 12:16:26 AM
      - The 30-year veteran has had 30 years to make mistakes. - Mary Anne - 10/3/2008 1:25:17 AM
        
        re: But these mistakes have been made since his VP pick - SteveS - 10/3/2008 4:06:14 AM

Want to play with the Electoral Map? - Eri - 10/1/2008 5:05:26 PM
- re: Want to play with the Electoral Map? - REB - 10/2/2008 5:16:09 PM
  - Wait for it. (n/t) - TB - 10/2/2008 5:54:34 PM
    - I'll give him a chance. - REB - 10/2/2008 6:21:20 PM
      - Obama's victory is by no means a lock. - TB - 10/2/2008 6:50:24 PM
        
        "there's a lot of people out there who have a vested interest in making people like you think so. "- Are you saying REB is incapable of drawing his own conclusions on the existing data? - ARRELL - 10/3/2008 12:06:57 AM
- Remember to color the Diebold states Red. - Bowser - 10/1/2008 7:15:40 PM
  - Information on "Diebold States" - TB - 10/2/2008 1:00:49 AM
    - re: Information on "Diebold States" - SDG - 10/2/2008 7:09:28 PM
- re: Want to play with the Electoral Map? - Raoul - 10/1/2008 5:31:07 PM

Senate "bailout bill" now at 450 pages. - TB - 10/2/2008 1:19:46 AM
- I still hate this bill. - REB - 10/2/2008 4:54:27 PM
  - Chemotherapy or morphine? the Nordic experience - Andrew - 10/2/2008 5:16:55 PM
    - re: Chemotherapy or morphine? the Nordic experience - REB - 10/2/2008 5:25:22 PM
      - The Japanese economy sucked for 10 years. That's long term. (n/t) - alcaray - 10/3/2008 12:06:14 AM

Obama's Funny Money (contributions) - SteveS - 10/1/2008 11:58:35 PM
- re: Obama's Funny Money (contributions) - Eri - 10/2/2008 10:44:01 PM

On the plus side- there will be no problem with witches in a Palin administration - ARRELL - 10/1/2008 7:32:32 PM
- "Who is this 'Pastor Wright' of which you speak?" - TB - 10/1/2008 11:43:05 PM
  - So... you are comfortable with a VP that believes in witches and in god wanting a pipeline? (n/t) - ARRELL - 10/2/2008 2:20:45 AM
    - re: witches - TB - 10/2/2008 3:11:37 AM
      - Alaska will be refuge during the end times.... - ARRELL - 10/2/2008 4:14:44 AM
      - :) you do realize you posted exactly as I knew you would....? - ARRELL - 10/2/2008 4:07:28 AM
        
        And..."my kind?" (n/t) - TB - 10/2/2008 4:56:11 AM
        
        You have four more weeks to keep the focus off your candidate.... - TB - 10/2/2008 4:30:56 AM
        
        When we focus on Obama you say we do it too much. (n/t) - alcaray - 10/2/2008 8:00:36 PM
        
        OK, focus on McCain. - Mary Anne - 10/2/2008 5:48:34 AM
        
        Thank you. - TB - 10/2/2008 2:56:49 PM
        
        Can you SERIOUSLY tell me she doesnt scare you? - ARRELL - 10/2/2008 4:41:10 AM
        
        Dude, YOU'RE starting to scare me. - TB - 10/2/2008 4:46:10 AM
      - Hardly a week goes by - podrock - 10/2/2008 3:43:35 AM
  - Define "complete pass". - alcaray - 10/2/2008 1:46:16 AM

Stunned, shocked and in complete disarray, the increasingly desparate McCain-Palin campaign pulls out of Michigan - z - 10/2/2008 7:24:30 PM

Housing crisis in a nutshell - TB - 9/29/2008 8:51:14 PM
- Must the assumption *always* be... - McFly - 10/1/2008 11:25:41 PM
- Thank you TB... - Jody - 9/30/2008 12:03:13 PM
  - re: Thank you TB... - REB - 9/30/2008 1:09:11 PM
- 1999 LA Times article - SDG - 9/30/2008 6:12:12 AM
  - 1999 New York Times article - TB - 9/30/2008 6:52:21 AM
- re: Another video - SteveS - 9/29/2008 10:55:16 PM
- That explanation is a scheme that only works... - alcaray - 9/29/2008 10:18:55 PM
  - re: Here's a scheme that worked - SteveS - 9/29/2008 11:07:04 PM
- "A Beautiful Mind". There is hope for some people if they try. - Bowser - 9/29/2008 9:24:49 PM
- Filling in holes. - Tony - 9/29/2008 9:03:43 PM
  - re: Filling in holes. - TB - 9/29/2008 10:12:18 PM
    - re: What would we be hearing on this board if a Republican speaker had called the opposition "unpatriotic?" - Mary Anne - 9/30/2008 8:43:28 PM
      - Oh, come on. "He did it too?" ;) (n/t) - TB - 10/1/2008 4:37:10 AM
        
        Yeah, I know... - Mary Anne - 10/1/2008 6:57:53 PM
        
        Both of us are old enough to remember... - TB - 10/2/2008 1:10:09 AM
        
        Those were the days. Good times. - Robert - 10/2/2008 4:38:10 AM
        
        Statistics - TB - 10/2/2008 4:50:28 AM
        
        re: Statistics - Robert - 10/2/2008 2:56:41 PM
        
        re: Statistics - TB - 10/2/2008 4:02:19 PM
    - "Any honest person would call this a bipartisan problem." - Tony - 9/29/2008 11:08:13 PM
    - I used to respect Jim Leach. (n/t) - TAFKASE - 9/29/2008 10:13:26 PM
      - What a mistake that was. - TAFKASE - 9/29/2008 10:14:50 PM
- After eight years of your spin, can you point to ONE reason we should take you or this administration seriously? (n/t) - ARRELL - 9/29/2008 9:00:37 PM
  - Actually, can you point to one reason why we shouldn't tar and feather the lot of you? (n/t) - ARRELL - 9/29/2008 9:05:18 PM
    - "Shut up and eat your cake!" (n/t) - Bowser - 9/29/2008 10:26:45 PM
    - Because we are the filthy rich and we own the tar. - TAFKASE - 9/29/2008 9:55:55 PM
      - 8^) Before you take that attitude you might want to research the french revolution (n/t) - ARRELL - 9/29/2008 11:57:06 PM
        
        Hint: Tar is cheaper than the Guillotine... (n/t) - ARRELL - 9/30/2008 12:15:20 AM

Like Bush, McCain also aspires towards Dictatorship - Jack Herer - 10/2/2008 1:18:54 PM

Electoral Blog Eliminates Presidential Slog - Socrates II - 10/2/2008 11:36:01 AM

Palin has set up the VP debate beautifully. - Bowser - 10/1/2008 4:55:00 AM
- "Palin's troubles mount for McCain in White House" - Bowser - 10/1/2008 6:38:38 PM
- I would have loved to see Clinton vs. Palin - Eri - 10/1/2008 5:09:51 PM
  - Might have been too much - McFly - 10/1/2008 6:18:19 PM
  - I don't know... - TB - 10/1/2008 5:48:17 PM
    - Hah! Told you so! - Sarah and Hillary - 10/1/2008 6:27:01 PM
- True - McFly - 10/1/2008 6:08:40 AM
  - Palin is getting more confident and outspoken - Lindy - 10/2/2008 12:51:54 AM

Bill Clinton on bank deregulation - TB - 10/1/2008 5:45:20 PM
- re: Bill V's Obama on Banks - SteveS - 10/1/2008 11:06:21 PM
  - re: Bill V's Obama on Banks - TB - 10/2/2008 12:44:45 AM

Dave Ramsey's fix - SDG - 10/1/2008 7:42:25 PM
- re: Dave Ramsey's fix - SteveS - 10/1/2008 11:28:56 PM
- Needs to limit it to owner-occupied homes. - Bowser - 10/1/2008 7:59:55 PM
  - good point (n/t) - SDG - 10/1/2008 8:01:10 PM

McCain's latest "ITS SO CRAZY IT MIGHT JUST WORK!" stunt backfired... - ARRELL - 9/30/2008 4:02:25 PM
- McCain wanted to be the hero and couldn't pull it off. How's that for irony? - McFly - 9/30/2008 7:17:11 PM
- It will be easier to hide Bush's radio on her for the debate. (n/t) - Bowser - 9/30/2008 5:44:07 PM
- I think I've worked it out. - TB - 9/30/2008 5:02:27 PM
  - More Tired Bullshit - ARRELL - 9/30/2008 5:19:03 PM
    - This isn't as much fun for you any more, is it? Maybe I should take another break. (n/t) - TB - 9/30/2008 5:54:05 PM
      - It's not you who needs a break (n/t) - The Silent Majority - 10/1/2008 6:09:14 AM
        
        So help me TB..if you leave again... - Jody - 10/1/2008 3:15:55 PM
        
        I beleive it's... - McFly - 10/1/2008 4:13:12 PM
        
        I dare say things would be better in this country if it were... ;) - TB - 10/1/2008 5:28:57 PM
        
        I'd go farther than that - McFly - 10/1/2008 11:03:47 PM
        
        heh...B2W3 Act - Jody - 10/1/2008 8:10:07 PM
      - Nah, don't do it! - Eri - 10/1/2008 1:33:10 AM
      - Don't sweat it. He's fixated on you for a moment. - Lee - 9/30/2008 10:19:07 PM
      - Go right ahead... - ARRELL - 9/30/2008 6:41:59 PM
      - Onlyy if you promise to come back with new material. (n/t) - Tony - 9/30/2008 5:58:10 PM
  - Lessee. Bush wanted it, Pelosi wanted it, and Republicans voted it down. - Bowser - 9/30/2008 5:13:40 PM

New clues found in Steve Fossett disappearance? - TB - 10/1/2008 6:20:57 PM
- Obviously that will trigger a large search. - Bowser - 10/1/2008 6:56:43 PM

[Moved several threads to Flame] - RobertS - 10/1/2008 4:02:32 PM

Even the NYT says it's Clinton's fault! - Lee - 10/1/2008 4:42:21 AM
- And Bush did exactly what? Adopt all of Clinton's policies because Bill is undeniably smarter than George? (n/t) - Bowser - 10/1/2008 3:31:27 PM

Hey, George - "U.S. general wants help in Afghanistan now" - Bowser - 10/1/2008 3:08:38 PM
- BTW - The Soviets had between 80,000 and 120,000 troops incountry and got their butts kicked. - Bowser - 10/1/2008 3:26:56 PM

Conservatives want: Bailout Wall St., use tax money to prop up prices, and eliminate capital gains. All of that. - Bowser - 10/1/2008 2:30:30 AM
- More accurately, Republicans. - TB - 10/1/2008 3:32:26 AM

Is it just me, or does a lot of this sound eerily familiar? - Laurie Street - 9/30/2008 5:42:50 PM
- Precisely. - Bowser - 9/30/2008 5:46:55 PM
  - Ah, it's just the French - Socrates II - 9/30/2008 5:51:01 PM
    - Part of the reason they were broke was the money spent on the American Revolution. (n/t) - Bowser - 10/1/2008 1:30:26 AM
    - Let them eat Freedom Fries! - Eri - 10/1/2008 1:21:08 AM

UmmmmUmmm, GOOOD!!!!! - carl - 9/30/2008 10:53:44 PM
- Campbell Soups are FOREVER, dude! - Eri - 10/1/2008 1:12:26 AM

Dow +243.48 ???? (as of 10:30 CDT) - REB - 9/30/2008 3:32:14 PM
- This usually happens after the dow plummets violently... - ARRELL - 9/30/2008 3:46:45 PM
- Bargain hunters. - TB - 9/30/2008 3:41:51 PM
  - re: Bargain hunters. - SDG - 9/30/2008 7:56:22 PM

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