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Kerry death wish continues with review of Pres. Bush flight log - ebnelson - 9/10/2004 2:35:56 PM
- Cluck, cluck, cluck (n/t) - Bowser - 9/10/2004 3:42:30 PM
  - that isn't how a whining dog sounds, is it? (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/10/2004 3:46:35 PM
- Is it possible that Kerry's missing service records contain a superscript "th" or two? - Scott Evil - 9/10/2004 3:37:06 PM
  - If ya look really closely - Tony - 9/10/2004 4:26:26 PM
    - I will if you will - ebnelson - 9/10/2004 4:38:07 PM
      - OK, Will John Kerry and George Bush please BOTH sign their 180s so we can put this nonsense behind us? (n/t) - Tony - 9/10/2004 6:46:56 PM

FactCheck's compilation of evidence of forgeries. - Bowser - 9/10/2004 4:01:01 PM
- More ... - Larry J - 9/10/2004 4:26:24 PM
  - re: Will CBS protect its sources if those sources are proved to have provided forgeries? - Scott Evil - 9/10/2004 4:36:14 PM
    - re: Will CBS protect its sources if those sources are proved to have provided forgeries? - gbaikie - 9/10/2004 4:56:38 PM
      - Will CBS protect its sources if those sources are proved to have provided forgeries? My guess: YES. - David F Mayer - 9/10/2004 5:45:55 PM
- Blaming Karl Rove? Lotsa luck. 'cluck, cluck, cluck' (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/10/2004 4:07:09 PM

ABC: Doubts about docs used in Rather smear - ebnelson - 9/10/2004 3:42:49 AM
- The old media is dying before our eyes - Gary - 9/10/2004 4:54:02 AM
  - Possibly - Tony - 9/10/2004 5:35:21 PM
  - To be fair... - Tom Brosz - 9/10/2004 6:58:12 AM
    - Nothing fair about it... - SteveS - 9/10/2004 1:05:41 PM
    - re: To be fair... - Chris Vancil - 9/10/2004 7:47:58 AM
      - According to 'The Prowler', the documents came from the Kerry campaign - Larry J - 9/10/2004 1:36:56 PM
- Kudos to the Freepers. - Tom Brosz - 9/10/2004 4:31:23 AM
  - Not a sentence that occurs very often.... (n/t) - Tony - 9/10/2004 3:17:32 PM
  - This is going to get VERY messy for the Dems. - Lee - 9/10/2004 6:19:40 AM
    - re: You assume it will messy for DNC But don't know who release the memos???...Right! (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 9/10/2004 7:37:36 AM
      - Read Susan Estrich from just last week. - ebnelson - 9/10/2004 2:40:31 PM

L. A. Times - "In Defense of Dick Cheney" - Bowser - 9/10/2004 3:55:03 PM

OMG this story is getting better and better. - Lee - 9/10/2004 6:42:51 AM
- don't get too excited - drycleaning can be quite expensive these days (n/t) - Daniel - 9/10/2004 3:31:07 PM

The political mudslinging reaches a new low - R.L. - 9/10/2004 6:26:41 AM
- The 'Daily Onion' is doing a good job. (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/10/2004 2:18:54 PM
  - It took all of 30 minutes to pound out - R.L. - 9/10/2004 2:36:36 PM
    - With the examination of Bush's flight log, I would submit it already has. - ebnelson - 9/10/2004 2:38:40 PM
- LOL! - Tom Brosz - 9/10/2004 6:53:47 AM
  - I guess my point was - R.L. - 9/10/2004 7:25:02 AM

Bush Piloted Guard Trainers Before He Quit - Chris Vancil - 9/10/2004 8:00:01 AM
- And that is an issue proving what? (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/10/2004 2:37:02 PM

Memos: Bush fell short of standards? - Chris Vancil - 9/10/2004 8:06:33 AM
- From the same article - Larry J - 9/10/2004 2:11:37 PM
- Kinda reachin', Chris. Trying to squeeze an anti-Bush spin out of that is like squeezing blood from a rock. (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/10/2004 1:53:21 PM

Neoconservative report? Rebuilding America's Defenses? - Chris Vancil - 9/10/2004 8:59:14 AM
- This one? - McFly - 9/10/2004 1:47:22 PM

Pretty much any way they look at it, Bush has created more terrorists. - Bowser - 9/8/2004 7:36:27 PM
- re: Bush has killed a few thousand terrorists too. - scott Evil - 9/9/2004 3:13:28 PM
- Bush has created over 22 million free Iraqis. - REB - 9/8/2004 8:32:25 PM
  - "Liberated". - Bowser - 9/8/2004 10:27:52 PM
    - re: John Kerry is gonna pull the US out of Iraq and the Middle East? - Scott Evil - 9/9/2004 3:16:28 PM
    - Yes, Liberated - REB - 9/9/2004 12:10:22 PM
      - Would you feel "liberated" if you had Iraqi tanks and troops rolling down your street? (n/t) - Bowser - 9/9/2004 3:30:59 PM
        
        Ask France, Germany, & Japan - Mark Eby - 9/10/2004 11:04:28 AM
        
        If they kicked Kerry out of office I would :) - REB - 9/9/2004 4:24:54 PM
    - Your Idea Of Liberation - Mark Eby - 9/9/2004 3:31:47 AM
- Any terrorist out there were likely on the road to terrorism long before the US Liberated Iraq. NT - REB - 9/8/2004 8:20:37 PM

Is OBL dead? - REB - 9/9/2004 7:42:58 PM
- We should look for a patch of daisys growing on Tora Bora. - Lee - 9/10/2004 6:51:12 AM
  - Actually, look for a large pond where Afghan civilians have been routinely peeing. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/10/2004 6:55:32 AM
- If he was alive, he'd be on the videotape with his chum - Gary - 9/10/2004 5:17:04 AM
- re: Is OBL dead? - Raoul - 9/9/2004 8:02:24 PM
  - There are pikes aplenty to post them both. (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/9/2004 9:02:37 PM
  - re: Is OBL dead? - REB - 9/9/2004 8:03:51 PM

stuff hitting the fan... - E.P. Grondine - 9/10/2004 5:22:10 AM
- not happy... - E.P. Grondine - 9/10/2004 5:54:51 AM

swing state votes - E.P. Grondine - 9/9/2004 2:57:41 PM
- re: he better do something fast or the Democrats in congress might start running against him to save their own jobs. - Scott Evil - 9/9/2004 3:06:41 PM
  - the big mo or no mo? - E.P. Grondine - 9/9/2004 3:37:54 PM
    - re: Slogans arn't gonna do it for Kerry - Scott Evil - 9/9/2004 3:52:12 PM
      - perception matters - and this is a close one - E.P. Grondine - 9/9/2004 4:32:30 PM
        
        re: I need a "fortune" - Scott Evil - 9/9/2004 8:06:15 PM
        
        Okay, here ya go - E.P. Grondine - 9/10/2004 4:50:18 AM

Polls: who is sick of spammers posting phony polls? - ebnelson - 9/9/2004 5:42:36 PM
- Poll: who else beside me is sick of ebnelson's seagull behavior? - Fox - 9/10/2004 3:42:19 AM

Venezuela election update - Tom Brosz - 9/9/2004 7:38:44 AM
- The commies stole it fair and square - ebnelson - 9/10/2004 3:35:57 AM

America? - "1C.I.A. Hid More Prisoners Than It Has Disclosed, Generals Say " - Bowser - 9/10/2004 1:52:53 AM

Tonight on '60 Minutes' - Larry J - 9/8/2004 9:40:42 PM
- Ben Barnes, democrat, was tossed out of office in Texas - ebnelson - 9/9/2004 2:18:54 AM
- So much for fact checking by you - tony - 9/9/2004 2:16:09 AM
  - Well, let's see - Larry J - 9/9/2004 2:14:35 PM
    - re: Different Era. (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 9/10/2004 12:39:18 AM
- re: I suggest you look at some of the Swift Boaters for Lies if you are really worried over money...as they got "payoffs" not gave donations... (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 9/8/2004 10:39:36 PM
  - What the hell are you talking about? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/8/2004 10:49:48 PM
    - re: What the hell are you talking about? - gbaikie - 9/9/2004 4:05:20 AM
- Folks in diplo cannot pull strings? What fact did 60min not check, exactly? (n/t) - alcaray - 9/8/2004 10:02:18 PM
  - Imagine! A guy who knows what Bush is like raising money for Kerry! (n/t) - Bowser - 9/8/2004 10:21:07 PM
    - You condemned Bob Perry for doing the same for Bush - ebnelson - 9/9/2004 2:20:41 AM
    - re: Imagine! Bush donors supporting an anti-Kerry 527! - Tom Brosz - 9/8/2004 10:34:21 PM
      - Yes, flexible standards. Note Larry's position above. - alcaray - 9/8/2004 10:45:56 PM
- Strawman? - E.P. Grondine - 9/8/2004 10:01:42 PM

The dems are likely to deeply regret this fabricated attack on Pres. Bush by the time the campaign is over. - ebnelson - 9/9/2004 7:15:08 PM
- It does look a lot like sour grapes. (n/t) - Lee - 9/9/2004 7:31:11 PM
  - Where's Mc Cain? (n/t) - SteveS - 9/9/2004 11:56:07 PM

If John Kerry were President, Saddam would still be in power. - Tom Brosz - 9/9/2004 5:49:24 AM
- 1,000 Americans would be alive, $200 billion saved. Saddam wasn't behind 9-11, remember. - Bowser - 9/9/2004 6:02:57 AM
  - re: How many virgins would Uday have raped and killed in the same period? - Scott Evil - 9/9/2004 2:46:56 PM
    - Or babies had their incubators unplugged. GWB in the fine tradition of his father. - Bowser - 9/9/2004 4:23:30 PM
      - You think we went to war in GWI over incubators? - ebnelson - 9/9/2004 5:44:54 PM
        
        re: You think we went to war in GWI over incubators? - REB - 9/9/2004 6:31:24 PM
        
        Saddam gassed people with American help. - Bowser - 9/9/2004 7:43:49 PM
        
        Saddam gassed them. Period. He is responsible. NT (n/t) - REB - 9/9/2004 7:52:25 PM
  - re: And Bin Ladin would probably have moved his terror camps from Afganistan to Iraq - Scott Evil - 9/9/2004 2:34:11 PM
  - And thousands of Iraqis would be dead. - REB - 9/9/2004 11:56:25 AM
    - Thousands of Iraqis ARE dead. - Lindy - 9/9/2004 1:17:31 PM
      - re: What is John Kerry's position on using spent uranium in tank shells? (n/t) - Scott Evil - 9/9/2004 2:48:07 PM
      - Iraq is on its way to being a free democracy - REB - 9/9/2004 1:48:14 PM
        
        REB, do you understand that everyone wants that? - Art Martin - 9/9/2004 4:55:38 PM
        
        I would hope so, but some do not make it very clear. - REB - 9/9/2004 5:12:34 PM
        
        "several here who think we never should have gone into Iraq in the first place and kicked out Saddam. " - Tony - 9/9/2004 5:45:22 PM
        
        re: there are many on the left who would love to see Democracy fail in Iraq - Scott Evil - 9/9/2004 8:28:38 PM
        
        re: "several here who think we never should have gone into Iraq in the first place and kicked out Saddam. " - REB - 9/9/2004 6:35:16 PM
        
        I think the hangup is on democracy - Art Martin - 9/9/2004 11:38:50 PM
  - Doesn't change the premise, doesn't change Democratic policies, and doesn't answer the questions in the article. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/9/2004 6:34:45 AM

Anti-Bush media hits wall at Mach 4. - Tom Brosz - 9/9/2004 5:58:52 AM
- Imagine the empty minds who think Kitty Kelly's book has fact-based merit. - ebnelson - 9/9/2004 6:06:27 PM
- I see, or rather, I don't see - Tony - 9/9/2004 4:15:07 PM
  - Did any Swift Boat Veterans get three consecutive days on the Today show? - Tom Brosz - 9/9/2004 4:29:04 PM
    - Come to that, did any Swift Boat Veterans get ANY time on the Today show? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/9/2004 11:17:16 PM
- re: the Dems want us to take some dame named Kitty seriously? - Scott Evil - 9/9/2004 2:45:00 PM
  - Obviously you don't know: "Kitty" has claws - E.P. Grondine - 9/9/2004 4:39:49 PM
    - re: Opps, I was thinkg of Sgt. Carter's squeeze: "Bunny" - Scott Evil - 9/9/2004 8:10:07 PM

Australian embassy bombing: local Muslims 'beyond angry' - Daniel L - 9/9/2004 7:53:26 PM
- Muslims have a little time left (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/9/2004 10:02:04 PM
- It isn't the first time that a lot of innocent Muslim bystanders have been killed in these attacks - Larry J - 9/9/2004 8:13:05 PM

The new news cycle - Scott Evil - 9/9/2004 9:22:45 PM
- More like the OODA cycle - Larry J - 9/9/2004 9:54:14 PM

Kery has to not only keep his military record hidden, but his Senate record as well - ebnelson - 9/9/2004 9:31:23 PM

Russia ready to strike against terror - Tom Brosz - 9/8/2004 5:41:16 PM
- I re-state my prediction of a blood bath in Chechnya. Russia is not famous for mercy or moderation. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 9/9/2004 5:18:40 PM
- 50-60 thousand troops to Iraq would be a good start. (n/t) - FrankC - 9/8/2004 11:46:57 PM
- Agreed. - Mary Anne - 9/8/2004 11:17:50 PM
  - We won't even enter a rogue city with ground troops. - Tom Brosz - 9/9/2004 2:47:28 AM
    - I meant the Russians. - Mary Anne - 9/9/2004 3:14:25 AM
      - Sorry. Jumped to a conclusion. - Tom Brosz - 9/9/2004 3:33:54 AM
        
        I understand. It happens to me too. - Mary Anne - 9/9/2004 11:56:05 AM
  - Well Russia was the country that gave us Stalin and the Gulags. - Lee - 9/9/2004 2:34:58 AM
- It's called "anarchy". - Bowser - 9/8/2004 6:25:36 PM
- Hope they don't look too closely at northern Idaho... (n/t) - Pollyanna - 9/8/2004 6:21:25 PM
- they're still described as 'militants' by the press - Daniel - 9/8/2004 6:06:06 PM
  - Words do matter. - Mary Anne - 9/9/2004 12:12:02 PM
    - re: Words do matter. - Daniel - 9/9/2004 6:10:51 PM
  - The Euphemism Collection - Tom Brosz - 9/8/2004 8:47:19 PM
    - re: You don't need to refer to them as Muslims. Its a given. Almost every terrorist is Muslim. Its a modern day fact. (n/t) - Scott Evil - 9/9/2004 2:58:54 PM
    - Sort-of like calling all participants in organized crime "Italians". - Mary Anne - 9/8/2004 11:24:19 PM
      - You have gone right off-track with this misinterpretation - Daniel L - 9/9/2004 5:32:11 AM
        
        I was replying to Tom. - Mary Anne - 9/9/2004 11:57:38 AM
        
        As Perry Mason might say, I think I legitimately "opened the door" on that issue with my "Euphemism" post. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/9/2004 5:42:00 AM
        
        Well, it's still been misinterpreted nonetheless - Daniel - 9/9/2004 6:02:26 AM
        
        (I meant - 'this is my post' not 'this is my thread' (n/t) - Daniel - 9/9/2004 5:36:32 AM
      - "criminals", "assailants" or "kidnappers" - FrankC - 9/8/2004 11:57:39 PM
        
        We *are* dealing with crime. - Mary Anne - 9/9/2004 12:15:06 AM
        
        I appreciate your feelings... - FrankC - 9/9/2004 3:50:17 AM
        
        Go ahead, Mary Anne. Call the "cops." - Tom Brosz - 9/9/2004 12:37:48 AM
        
        Oh, for God's sake. - Mary Anne - 9/9/2004 12:58:42 AM
        
        Europe - Tom Brosz - 9/9/2004 2:42:25 AM
        
        Fine. We can have peace if we just blow up enough places. - Mary Anne - 9/9/2004 3:04:35 AM
        
        You got a better idea? Does anyone? - Tom Brosz - 9/9/2004 4:22:48 AM
        
        re: You got a better idea? - Fox - 9/9/2004 9:23:21 PM
        
        I mentioned how: co-ordinated police action. - Mary Anne - 9/9/2004 11:52:41 AM
        
        Perhaps our pre-9/11 vocabulary is insufficient - McFly - 9/9/2004 1:51:30 AM
    - Nor males, nor deeply pigmented humans, nor Arabic-speakers... - alcaray - 9/8/2004 10:55:44 PM
      - I'm Melanin Enhanced & I Don't Mind Extra Security Attention - Mark Eby - 9/9/2004 3:28:15 AM
        
        That is an interesting addition to the discussion (n/t) - alcaray - 9/9/2004 4:31:11 PM
      - Go back to the article Mary Anne linked to before. - Tom Brosz - 9/9/2004 12:26:04 AM
        
        Neo-Muslims - Art Martin - 9/9/2004 6:15:39 PM
        
        I'll spell it out slowly and show you where you made your mistake. - alcaray - 9/9/2004 4:53:38 PM
        
        Okaaaay.... - Mary Anne - 9/9/2004 12:48:30 AM
        
        I hate to say it... - Tom Brosz - 9/9/2004 2:22:45 AM
        
        And which part of the Muslim community are you? - Mary Anne - 9/9/2004 3:12:07 AM
        
        All Muslims are not terrorists. - Tom Brosz - 9/9/2004 5:22:02 AM
        
        Well, thank you for that, anyway. - Mary Anne - 9/9/2004 11:47:31 AM
- re: Good. - Scott Evil - 9/8/2004 5:53:49 PM

Polls?:98 percent of people who are hearing-impaired like 50 percent of what they hear from Mr. Bush. (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 9/9/2004 8:42:41 AM
- Did you have a point here, or are you drunk? (n/t) - Tony - 9/9/2004 4:46:22 PM
  - re: No there humorous polls. Jokes meant to be laughed at and maybe a test of peoples thinking. (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 9/9/2004 9:03:45 PM
  - He has the same computer virus I do... - Tom Brosz - 9/9/2004 5:11:36 PM
    - re: He has the same computer virus I do... - Chris Vancil - 9/9/2004 9:06:28 PM
    - That explains everything! Needed that, thanks :-D (n/t) - Tony - 9/9/2004 5:18:36 PM
      - Had to type this. Monitor smoking... ;) (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/9/2004 8:18:54 PM
- re: that's because Kerry wants to socialize all Ear doctors and ration hearing aids. (n/t) - Scott Evil - 9/9/2004 2:36:55 PM

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