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Judge throws out suit in Elian raid - Donald - 8/26/2004 1:56:40 PM
- re: Judge throws out suit in Elian raid - REB - 8/26/2004 2:28:10 PM
  - You guys! - alcaray - 8/26/2004 10:00:42 PM

Humor department - David F Mayer - 8/26/2004 7:51:04 PM

Zogby - Kerry ahead in 14 of 16 "battleground" states. - Bowser - 8/25/2004 5:15:13 PM
- L.A. Times now indicates that Bush is leading by 3%. - Gary - 8/26/2004 5:37:06 AM
- Unfortunately, Mr. Zogby has an agenda. - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/25/2004 10:34:42 PM
  - Actually, Zogby tends toward the conservative range of pollsters. (n/t) - alcaray - 8/25/2004 11:30:32 PM
    - Here, take a look - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/26/2004 1:35:49 AM
      - What Zogby said is not pertenant - alcaray - 8/26/2004 6:05:33 PM
      - PS - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/26/2004 2:11:00 AM
        
        John Kerry is Jewish? - Mamoud Ali Gobanienar - 8/26/2004 1:53:07 PM
        
        He is whatever will get him the vote. - REB - 8/26/2004 3:15:18 PM
        
        There you go again - wild inferences, with just your prejudices as a basis. - Bowser - 8/26/2004 4:11:52 AM
  - Really. Care to demonstrate that? The info came from the WSJ, which DOES have an agenda. - Bowser - 8/25/2004 11:04:15 PM
- It still looks VERY close. I would not bet either way at any odds. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 8/25/2004 5:58:05 PM

Why doesn't Kerry ask Moceon to stop with their Anti-Bush Sentiment? - REB - 8/26/2004 2:33:26 PM
- Like this? - Tony - 8/26/2004 4:03:13 PM
  - At McCain's Urging, Kerry Condemns Ad - REB - 8/26/2004 4:17:20 PM
- re: Because Moveon is a grassroots organization. Swiftvets is a smear organization. (n/t) - Kari Supporter - 8/26/2004 3:01:35 PM
  - Sure (wink) - REB - 8/26/2004 3:12:09 PM
    - Reb, Kari = scott.... - Tony - 8/26/2004 4:06:41 PM
      - re: Reb, Kari = scott.... - REB - 8/26/2004 4:10:26 PM
        
        Hmmm, i think i pulled an "Eats, shoots and leaves" - Tony - 8/26/2004 4:47:42 PM
        
        re: Hmmm, i think i pulled an "Eats, shoots and leaves" - REB - 8/26/2004 5:01:44 PM
    - re: I heard a newsanchor refer to them as a grassroots organization this moring on MSNBC... - Scott Evil - 8/26/2004 3:16:09 PM
- Make the Moveon (nt) (n/t) - REB - 8/26/2004 2:57:45 PM

Bob Dole on his recent criticism of John Kerry - Mark Eby - 8/26/2004 1:14:15 AM
- 'Blue Falcon' Kerry is going to learn not to bring a croissant to a knife fight - Larry J - 8/26/2004 1:51:13 PM
- Good ol' Dole. - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/26/2004 4:19:16 AM
  - Viagra Overdose - Donald - 8/26/2004 4:41:12 AM
    - re: Viagra Overdose - gbaikie - 8/26/2004 11:44:55 AM
      - re: Viagra Overdose - p - 8/26/2004 11:56:00 AM

969 - Donald - 8/26/2004 1:14:34 PM

Manistream Media an the election - p - 8/26/2004 12:26:02 PM

Abu Ghraib: A failure in leadership - Donald - 8/26/2004 5:01:23 AM
- Another point of view, and some links to original material. - Tom Brosz - 8/26/2004 5:27:34 AM
  - re: Another point of view, and some links to original material. - gbaikie - 8/26/2004 10:47:04 AM

Allies moving closer to shrine in Najaf - Tom Brosz - 8/26/2004 5:14:07 AM
- Sistani's timing is probably not an accident - Gary - 8/26/2004 5:24:49 AM

"Distributed processing" as a metaphor for the new media - Tom Brosz - 8/24/2004 4:53:42 PM
- Mark Steyn observes the effect of the internet - Tom Brosz - 8/26/2004 5:01:32 AM
- Yet another article on this subject... - Tom Brosz - 8/25/2004 5:35:27 AM
  - And another, from a history professor - Larry J - 8/25/2004 3:00:10 PM
    - Perfect example of why I dont think it works - Tony - 8/25/2004 4:30:12 PM
      - It depends on the blogs - Larry J - 8/25/2004 4:59:42 PM
        
        Thanks for Memeorandum (love the name) - Tony - 8/25/2004 5:54:45 PM
        
        re: Thanks for Memeorandum (love the name) - Larry J - 8/25/2004 7:38:26 PM
- A good example of the process in action... - Tom Brosz - 8/25/2004 5:13:35 AM
- Systems analysis - Robert - 8/25/2004 4:15:33 AM
  - Some points on the analysis space: bloggers versus bbs versus scientific forums - E.P. Grondine - 8/25/2004 4:01:18 PM
  - Great post! - Tom Brosz - 8/25/2004 4:59:46 AM
    - some later thoughts - Robert - 8/26/2004 3:12:54 AM
      - re: some later thoughts - Tom Brosz - 8/26/2004 4:36:14 AM
    - re: Great post! - gbaikie - 8/25/2004 1:15:00 PM
- Old Media: Kerry's biggest fans - Tom Brosz - 8/25/2004 3:59:07 AM
- Comments from Belmont Club - Tom Brosz - 8/25/2004 3:03:19 AM
- The days of the 'dead tree Press' are probably numbered - Larry J - 8/24/2004 9:16:26 PM
- Fed up with corporate radio as well... - E.P. Grondine - 8/24/2004 5:57:48 PM
- re: "Distributed processing" as a metaphor for the new media - alcaray - 8/24/2004 5:34:07 PM
  - re: "Distributed processing" as a metaphor for the new media - Tom Brosz - 8/24/2004 6:17:31 PM
    - My favorite news sources do indeed cover such stories. - alcaray - 8/24/2004 9:00:00 PM
      - Interesting question: would public radio and TV be considered "mainstream media?" Not sure on that. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 8/25/2004 1:00:13 AM
        
        If the pruveyors have any brains, they will fight being labeled as "mainstream" anything. (n/t) - alcaray - 8/25/2004 3:16:39 PM
        
        Yeah, I want to know what a pruveyors is too. (n/t) - alcaray - 8/25/2004 10:07:51 PM
- Old media loosing market and revenues - E.P. Grondine - 8/24/2004 5:29:46 PM

"Sadism" at Abu Ghraib, Rumsfeld held "indirectly" responsible. - Bowser - 8/24/2004 7:26:10 PM
- If you knew what the new Iraqi government was doing to Al Qaeda prisoners, you would think that the USA's treatment was mild by comparison. - David F Mayer - 8/25/2004 1:08:11 AM
  - Some of us remember a country one didn't have to compart with Iraq, leaders we didn't have to compare with Saddam. - Bowser - 8/25/2004 4:26:02 AM
- That's what the US has come to under Bush, folks. "Sadism". - Bowser - 8/25/2004 12:59:25 AM
  - Shouldn't we be getting down off our high horse? - Lindy - 8/25/2004 2:33:36 AM
    - For one thing, Allawi is going to run for election. A real election. - Tom Brosz - 8/25/2004 3:07:21 AM
      - "Israel is still under siege, but it's a working democracy." Hah, hah! Chuckle sob. - Bowser - 8/25/2004 4:33:42 AM
        
        re: Israel is still under siege - Tom Brosz - 8/25/2004 5:08:18 AM
        
        re: re:Your own propaganda - Raoul - 8/25/2004 10:10:50 AM
        
        re: propaganda - Tom Brosz - 8/25/2004 3:38:27 PM
        
        re: propaganda - Raoul - 8/25/2004 10:07:54 PM
        
        You do realize that your odd philosophy negates the concept of attempted murder? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 8/26/2004 4:28:16 AM
        
        re: propaganda - Tom Brosz - 8/26/2004 4:27:22 AM
        
        re: re:Your own propaganda - gbaikie - 8/25/2004 12:39:37 PM
        
        re: Israel is still under siege - gbaikie - 8/25/2004 9:59:37 AM

The blogosphere in action - Tom Brosz - 8/26/2004 2:23:30 AM

anyone received the September National Geographic? - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/26/2004 1:10:59 AM

From USS Clueless - David F Mayer - 8/25/2004 1:25:30 AM
- re: "The basic doctrine of terrorism as a form of warfare developed in the 20th century." - alcaray - 8/25/2004 3:11:37 PM
  - yes you could argue with the finer points... - Scott Evil - 8/25/2004 3:46:45 PM
    - There is either only one way to skin an orange... - alcaray - 8/25/2004 6:22:33 PM
      - re: I don't know of anybody who said it would be easy. - Scott Evil - 8/25/2004 10:10:06 PM
        
        Yep. The liberals sided with the CIA on racist grounds. (n/t) - alcaray - 8/25/2004 11:54:40 PM

Why New York is pissed - alcaray - 8/25/2004 11:28:39 PM

Kerry's spending plans - Tom Brosz - 8/25/2004 4:43:41 PM
- If you remove the 500 billion health care plan, Kerry comes out ahead. - Tony - 8/25/2004 4:48:43 PM
  - Okay, let's see Kerry announce that his health plan is off the table. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 8/25/2004 5:27:07 PM
    - Like Clinton's health plan, like Bush's Social Security plan - Tony - 8/25/2004 5:44:56 PM
      - Bush is going to hit some deep water on his immigration policies - Tom Brosz - 8/25/2004 6:06:39 PM
    - Healthcare is a good thing. - Bowser - 8/25/2004 5:42:29 PM
      - True. Irrelevant, but true. (n/t) - Tony - 8/25/2004 5:45:35 PM
        
        Irrelevant? Paying for a bomb or a vaccination is irrelevant this election? - Bowser - 8/25/2004 6:55:17 PM
        
        re: I hope not, but..... (n/t) - Raoul - 8/25/2004 10:01:23 PM

Grownups respond to Kerry's whining about free speech he doesn't like - ebnelson - 8/25/2004 9:37:53 PM

Those rascally Republicans - "Bush-Cheney lawyer advised anti-Kerry vets" - Bowser - 8/25/2004 3:19:44 PM
- re: Who cares. It's freedom of speech. And its political speech at that. - Scott Evil - 8/25/2004 4:47:43 PM
  - P.S. I'm thinking of starting a 527 of my own. - Scott Evil - 8/25/2004 5:01:13 PM
- Bush-Cheney lawyer resigns - Lindy - 8/25/2004 4:28:02 PM
  - Or maybe just to end the controversy. - Tom Brosz - 8/25/2004 4:35:16 PM
    - Cordier resigned, too. (n/t) - Bowser - 8/25/2004 7:49:35 PM
- And now, the Rest of the Story... - Tom Brosz - 8/25/2004 3:54:49 PM
- And how is that different from... - Larry J - 8/25/2004 3:54:18 PM
- No one is clean in this - check Robert Bauer..... (n/t) - Tony - 8/25/2004 3:39:45 PM
  - And Joseph Sandler - Larry J - 8/25/2004 4:46:12 PM
- They should have used one of Kerry's attorneys? - ebnelson - 8/25/2004 3:35:09 PM
- What is the point? That is politics. I WOULD be surprised if one of Bush's lawyers were advising an ANTI-BUSH group. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 8/25/2004 3:26:13 PM
  - Bush said there were no ties, no coordination. (It's in the citation.) ((In English)) - Bowser - 8/25/2004 3:35:58 PM
    - The issue of trust.......... - Lindy - 8/25/2004 8:21:48 PM

Swift Yacht Vets Launch Pro-Kerry Ad - p - 8/24/2004 5:44:45 PM
- Funny! - alcaray - 8/24/2004 10:38:20 PM
  - I stipulate that YOU have that rare sense of humor (n/t) - p - 8/25/2004 12:50:47 AM
- In a firefight, if your life depended on it, would you want Bush or Kerry with you? Heh, heh, ho ho - (n/t) - Bowser - 8/24/2004 6:53:58 PM
  - Kerry has a written record of "leaving the scene" in a battle - phil - 8/24/2004 10:23:37 PM
    - re: And returning...your point? (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 8/25/2004 7:43:58 PM
  - Not Kerry - REB - 8/24/2004 7:28:12 PM
- That's funny. - Bowser - 8/24/2004 6:00:04 PM
  - and you do too, dogbreath - p - 8/25/2004 12:51:50 AM

Russia under attack? - Tom Brosz - 8/25/2004 4:01:38 AM
- If it wasn't terrorism, it's hard to think what it might've been - Larry J - 8/25/2004 1:41:00 PM
  - re: bad jet fuel? - Scott Evil - 8/25/2004 2:44:52 PM
    - Seems unlikely - Larry J - 8/25/2004 2:54:46 PM
      - I suggest possible modes of sabotage that might have been used. - David F Mayer - 8/25/2004 6:02:40 PM
        
        re: I suggest possible modes of sabotage that might have been used. - Larry J - 8/25/2004 7:24:32 PM
      - first 2 guesses - SA7 or altitude switch bombs by ground crew infiltrators - E.P. Grondine - 8/25/2004 3:09:27 PM
        
        SA7's are very short ranged missiles - Larry J - 8/25/2004 3:59:16 PM
        
        time switches - E.P. Grondine - 8/25/2004 4:28:39 PM
  - My guess is either Chechnya or Al Qaeda (n/t) - David F Mayer - 8/25/2004 2:02:35 PM
- Scary stuff -- Tough deal for the Russians - Gary - 8/25/2004 5:16:47 AM

"Brown Books," developing... - Tom Brosz - 8/25/2004 4:02:10 PM
- "Democrats don't argue. They try to silence or destroy the opposition. Must be in the leftist genes." See "Swift Boats". - Bowser - 8/25/2004 5:44:31 PM
  - Who are the Swift Boat Veterans trying to silence? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 8/25/2004 6:07:43 PM
    - Read your post. "or destroy" See Clarke, Wilson, et al. (n/t) - Bowser - 8/25/2004 6:56:18 PM
      - re: Wilson destroyed himself when his lies were exposed. Who is Clark again? (n/t) - Scott Evil - 8/25/2004 6:59:48 PM
- this is different from Bowser's post - Tony - 8/25/2004 4:11:41 PM
  - re: irritated with both campaigns and their rah rah supporters - Scott Evil - 8/25/2004 4:40:47 PM
    - Our contractual once per quarter agreement ;-) (n/t) - Tony - 8/25/2004 4:45:04 PM
      - I'm for term limits for this reason... - ScottEvil - 8/25/2004 4:57:16 PM
  - Yeah, but you note the headlines of the articles don't say "Both Sides Have Dirty Hands." (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 8/25/2004 4:20:35 PM

Some useful information about Najaf. - Gary - 8/25/2004 6:10:24 AM
- The latest - David F Mayer - 8/25/2004 8:52:17 AM
  - It's getting interesting - Gary - 8/25/2004 4:29:08 PM

John Kerry's "The New Soldier" apparently online now - Tom Brosz - 8/25/2004 4:10:09 PM

Newsbreak: Kerry's 1st Purple Heart an unintentional self-inflicted wound - phil - 8/24/2004 1:40:48 PM
- First, it was 'Christmas in Cambodia' and now this... - Larry J - 8/24/2004 6:33:01 PM
- How many purple hearts did George Bush get? - Donald - 8/24/2004 1:50:59 PM
  - Bush can take lying crap like yours, but Kerry demands censorship - ebnelson - 8/25/2004 3:34:09 PM
  - How many has he applied for? (n/t) - FrankC - 8/24/2004 5:23:43 PM
  - Everybody knows that Bush is a heartless Republican. - He kills old folks - 8/24/2004 4:34:53 PM
  - Nice topic switch tactic - phil - 8/24/2004 4:15:35 PM
  - Just out of curiosity, how many presidents did have Purple Hearts? - Tom Brosz - 8/24/2004 3:51:38 PM
  - Bush has 1 Purple Heart - Scott Evil - 8/24/2004 3:45:49 PM
    - You forgot about Kerry's 4th Purple Heart! - I'm wearing my tin foil hat - 8/24/2004 4:08:30 PM
  - Don't change the subject - REB - 8/24/2004 2:05:32 PM
  - We are talking about Kerry - REB - 8/24/2004 2:01:21 PM
    - Yeah...talking about Bush's service record is too embarrassing - Donald - 8/24/2004 2:06:25 PM
      - Personally, I could care less what either did 30 years ago... - REB - 8/24/2004 2:10:22 PM
        
        On that we agree... - Donald - 8/24/2004 2:22:17 PM
        
        Unfortunately, you can be sure that there are more attacks to come... - E.P. Grondine - 8/24/2004 3:50:32 PM
      - It is old old old ground that has been walked over by you and your buddies thousands of times - REB - 8/24/2004 2:07:55 PM
- Grenades don't discriminate - Larry J - 8/24/2004 1:44:55 PM
  - Chris Mathews lost it on that one. - Scott Evil - 8/24/2004 3:57:09 PM

Watch out for internet terrorism on Thursday. - Big Clifford - 8/25/2004 2:59:46 PM

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