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967 - Donald - 8/25/2004 1:19:55 PM
- re: 967 - jr - 8/25/2004 1:33:35 PM

Defending VVAW Against Swift Boat Vets Lies - Chris Vancil - 8/16/2004 10:50:14 AM
- VVAW was proven to be run by scammers many years ago - ebnelson - 8/20/2004 2:09:08 AM
  - re: Really where and by who? (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 8/24/2004 7:58:43 AM
- Several of the VVAW members are proven frauds - Larry J - 8/17/2004 3:05:45 PM
  - re: Yes well we can say the same of many of the Swift Boaters for lies. (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 8/24/2004 8:02:00 AM
    - So far, they've proven Kerry lied about 'Christmas in Cambodia' and... - Larry J - 8/25/2004 1:32:55 PM
  - re: Yes well there is ~33,000 members...what are the odds someone would lie... (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 8/17/2004 8:40:57 PM
    - In his Senate testimony, ... - Larry J - 8/18/2004 12:37:29 AM
      - re: In his Senate testimony, ... - Chris Vancil - 8/18/2004 8:54:52 AM
        
        Available here - Larry J - 8/18/2004 6:51:13 PM
        
        Thanks for the transcript, but................ - Tony - 8/19/2004 4:03:06 PM
        
        re: Thanks for the transcript, but................ - Chris Vancil - 8/24/2004 7:56:44 AM
        
        It turns out it was on 'Meet the Press', not in his Senate testimony - Larry J - 8/24/2004 1:35:54 PM
- heh -- So much for journalistic democracy in action and accountability on the internet. - Mary Anne - 8/16/2004 11:22:56 AM
  - V VAW cleverly avoids this problem by not having any comment section on their website. - Tom Brosz - 8/16/2004 3:47:21 PM
    - re: V VAW cleverly avoids this problem by not having any comment section on their website. - Chris Vancil - 8/16/2004 5:21:29 PM
  - Yeah It's No Better Than The Mainstream Press - Mark Eby - 8/16/2004 12:27:43 PM

More Witnesses Vouch For Kerry - Donald - 8/24/2004 2:00:10 PM
- The Swift Vets have updated their photo - Gary - 8/24/2004 4:25:44 PM
  - re: The Swift Vets have updated their photo - Chris Vancil - 8/25/2004 9:40:47 AM
    - Who is "they"? The MIB? (n/t) - gb - 8/25/2004 12:48:46 PM
- re: More Witnesses Vouch For Kerry - Tom Brosz - 8/24/2004 3:57:29 PM
  - You hit that nail on the head... - REB - 8/24/2004 5:06:44 PM
- Where was Bush? - Donald - 8/24/2004 2:04:59 PM
  - Explained here - Larry J - 8/24/2004 5:50:50 PM
  - BTW, did you vote for Clinton or the war heroes in the 92 and 96 elections? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 8/24/2004 4:15:45 PM
  - Media apparently equally desperate... - Tom Brosz - 8/24/2004 4:14:44 PM
  - Did the left really think they could attack Bush's military record and then get a free pass on Kerry's? - Scott Evil - 8/24/2004 3:32:13 PM
    - and Nader just attacks W. Bush and Kerry on the issues... - E.P. Grondine - 8/24/2004 4:10:15 PM
  - I see you are getting worried. - REB - 8/24/2004 2:06:49 PM
    - re: I see you are getting worried. - Chris Vancil - 8/25/2004 9:55:08 AM
    - What truly worries me... - Donald - 8/24/2004 2:23:22 PM
      - re: Maybe he was on a secret mission in Cambodia. - Scott Evil - 8/24/2004 3:34:19 PM

"Bush team lacks clear economic plan, critics say" And allies. - Bowser - 8/24/2004 5:56:51 PM
- Link... - Tom Brosz - 8/25/2004 12:57:36 AM
  - Yeah. That one seems to work, though. - Bowser - 8/25/2004 4:55:20 AM
    - Browsers - Tom Brosz - 8/25/2004 5:23:34 AM

Time travelling pundit - Tom Brosz - 8/25/2004 4:19:13 AM

A report from Iraq - Tom Brosz - 8/25/2004 3:43:30 AM
- Another report from Iraq - Tom Brosz - 8/25/2004 4:12:15 AM

Swift Boat Vet Admits No Evidence Kerry Lied - Donald - 8/23/2004 1:13:56 PM
- Kerry releases some medical records, "revises" website biography. - Tom Brosz - 8/23/2004 5:18:59 PM
  - Continuous? - Tony - 8/23/2004 5:42:57 PM
    - As far as I know, it wasn't congressional testimony. - Tom Brosz - 8/23/2004 6:34:42 PM
      - Kerry's testimony, including more recent lies - phil - 8/23/2004 6:59:53 PM
        
        Here's the video to his 'Meet the Press' interview - Larry J - 8/24/2004 1:39:24 PM
        
        Try and imagine these discussions without the internet. Wow. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 8/25/2004 3:48:58 AM
      - Thanks. - Tony - 8/23/2004 6:39:04 PM
        
        Kerry is EXACTLY accurate, doesn't go far enough. - Bowser - 8/24/2004 4:38:48 AM
  - At least he's no longer confusing himself with Bob Kerrey - Larry J - 8/23/2004 5:33:11 PM
- Interesting. In Bush's National Guard flap, the burden of proof was all in the other direction. - Tom Brosz - 8/23/2004 3:49:24 PM
- Kerry lied in congressional testimony about war crimes. - Scott Evil - 8/23/2004 1:47:22 PM
  - War crimes in Vietnam. - Bowser - 8/23/2004 2:04:48 PM
    - re: Just like John Kerry...You want it both ways... - Scott Evil - 8/23/2004 2:20:54 PM
      - Have it your way, then. The US troops were war criminals. - Bowser - 8/24/2004 12:51:21 PM
  - I'll ask you again..... - Tony - 8/23/2004 1:48:25 PM
    - re: I'll ask you again..... - Larry J - 8/23/2004 2:31:34 PM
      - Thanks, but........ - Tony - 8/23/2004 5:28:37 PM
        
        re: Thanks, but........ - Larry J - 8/23/2004 5:47:18 PM
    - re: I'll ask you again..... - Scott Evil - 8/23/2004 2:02:30 PM
      - Combat and the Bronze Star - Larry J - 8/23/2004 2:45:14 PM

Quagmire update - p - 8/25/2004 1:14:13 AM
- Ouch! that's gonna leave a mark. (n/t) - FrankC - 8/25/2004 3:33:39 AM
- re: Quagmire update - gbaikie - 8/25/2004 2:37:51 AM

Wretchard is brilliant as usual - Gary - 8/24/2004 6:16:43 AM
- Yipes! "Brilliant"? - Bowser - 8/24/2004 1:21:00 PM
  - Nice try. - Tom Brosz - 8/24/2004 5:03:05 PM
    - The piece was specific. I was specific. You aren't responsive. - Bowser - 8/24/2004 5:06:34 PM
      - Okay, keeping it short: the Democratic Party is lying about being pro-defense. - Tom Brosz - 8/25/2004 1:54:30 AM
- Another good article that Wretchard linked - Gary - 8/24/2004 6:28:21 AM
  - Bungled the link, sorry - Gary - 8/24/2004 6:30:35 AM

First "Bring it On' then whine to the Federal Election Committee - phil - 8/25/2004 1:19:33 AM

Republican Family Values - alcaray - 8/23/2004 9:51:11 PM
- Cheap shot - SteveS - 8/24/2004 3:24:12 AM
  - Errr, permitting the largest casino (by many measures) in the Western US to be sited in the metro SF market is news - alcaray - 8/24/2004 3:45:08 PM
    - Premature news as usual - SteveS - 8/24/2004 8:20:38 PM
      - As Jack Sparrow said: Thats interesting. - alcaray - 8/24/2004 9:16:19 PM
        
        That movie always brings back memories of a summer in Half Moon Bay and a slang ridden book called Far Tortuga - SteveS - 8/24/2004 10:18:42 PM
        
        re: That movie always brings back memories of a summer in Half Moon Bay and a slang ridden book called Far Tortuga - alcaray - 8/24/2004 10:49:24 PM
  - Playing the "Christian morals" card - Mary Anne - 8/24/2004 1:06:19 PM
    - Seems to be your favorite theme - SteveS - 8/24/2004 8:55:32 PM
      - Not mine: Republicans are the ones who suggest amending the Constitution to support "Christian" values. - Mary Anne - 8/24/2004 9:29:19 PM
        
        Political Consistency? Let me know when either party makes the grade (n/t) - SteveS - 8/24/2004 10:22:41 PM
- Don't look at me. I voted for McClintock. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 8/24/2004 12:00:18 AM
  - He will speak at the convention, right? (n/t) - alcaray - 8/24/2004 12:06:01 AM
    - Arnold? Yes. - Tom Brosz - 8/24/2004 1:17:15 AM
- Bill Bennett to preside at ribbon-cutting? - Bowser - 8/23/2004 11:04:30 PM

Recent Presidential Polls - David F Mayer - 8/23/2004 9:08:15 PM
- This time for sure, Rocky - David F Mayer - 8/23/2004 9:33:26 PM
- re: Recent Presidential Polls (reformatted, correctly, I hope) - David F Mayer - 8/23/2004 9:10:06 PM
  - In other words..... - Tony - 8/23/2004 9:19:52 PM
    - Well, some of these people have predicted a GWB landslide. - Bowser - 8/23/2004 10:54:29 PM
      - I would not predict any outcome; it is simply too close to call. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 8/24/2004 6:09:03 AM
      - I predicted a Bush blowout victory... - Tom Brosz - 8/24/2004 12:02:53 AM
        
        I checked the Vegas odds on Cheney. - Bowser - 8/24/2004 12:31:26 AM
    - Precisely. Anybody who is sure of the outcome is smoking something. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 8/23/2004 9:34:59 PM
      - Geoff is a freak bro.??? (n/t) - alcaray - 8/24/2004 10:16:42 PM

Bush comes out against 527s - Tom Brosz - 8/24/2004 4:25:29 AM
- Haven't been following this but... - RobVG - 8/24/2004 5:14:35 AM
  - He was 27 in 1971 - Larry J - 8/24/2004 6:19:38 PM
    - re: He was 27 in 1971 - REB - 8/24/2004 8:18:40 PM
- re: Bush comes out against 527s - Tom Brosz - 8/24/2004 4:41:04 AM

Bush-Kerry duet - LJ - 8/24/2004 7:14:45 PM

Carter details Venezuela election outcome - Tom Brosz - 8/24/2004 5:44:47 AM
- I would not believe that idiot, Jimmy Carter, if he said that water was wet. - David F Mayer - 8/24/2004 6:20:57 AM
  - My, my, such nastiness, Mr. Mayer - E.P. Grondine - 8/24/2004 3:27:18 PM
  - re: Carter's speech - Raoul - 8/24/2004 2:14:15 PM
    - Is that the Nobel Prize he got, according to Berge, for "kicking Bush in the leg?" (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 8/24/2004 6:08:25 PM
  - Wow! - Bowser - 8/24/2004 1:02:49 PM
- P.S. Chavez still sucks. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 8/24/2004 5:53:35 AM

Its time to examine George Bush's Vietnam war record - Donald - 8/24/2004 1:39:27 PM
- The Press has already done this...twice - Larry J - 8/24/2004 1:51:07 PM
  - Actually, I think it's three times at last count. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 8/24/2004 3:53:54 PM
  - Don't change the subject - Donald - 8/24/2004 1:55:25 PM
    - I didn't change the subject. The Press has looked into Bush's military record. - Larry J - 8/24/2004 5:41:51 PM
- Compare their military service records - Donald - 8/24/2004 1:41:25 PM
  - re: Where's the mention of Kerry's Lies told while in Uniform to a congressional committee? - Scott Evil - 8/24/2004 3:39:56 PM
    - Dunno. You got one? (n/t) - Tony - 8/24/2004 4:20:19 PM

Religion of Peace (RoP) in the news! - p - 8/24/2004 12:37:22 AM
- That's terrible. Why would he need to pay her parents? He owned her... - Scott Evil - 8/24/2004 4:40:37 PM
- Religion of Piece in the news - E.P. Grondine - 8/24/2004 4:21:10 PM
- re: Religion of Peace (RoP) in the news! - SteveS - 8/24/2004 2:34:34 AM
- How's that? - Bowser - 8/24/2004 12:39:34 AM

Another view from Najaf - Tom Brosz - 8/23/2004 5:26:20 PM
- re: Another view from Najaf - John E. King - 8/23/2004 10:52:10 PM
  - re: Another view from Najaf - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/24/2004 10:21:02 AM

963 - Donald - 8/22/2004 7:30:23 PM
- From a Marine serving in Iraq - Larry J - 8/23/2004 3:10:24 PM
- Why Don' You Ask Their Families If They Agree With Your Slanders? - Mark Eby - 8/22/2004 8:50:28 PM
  - yes and no - Buck Galaxy - 8/22/2004 9:29:27 PM
    - Don won't go away. He and the far left are holding their breath until we get to 1,000 - Scott Evil - 8/23/2004 1:20:09 PM
      - Nope: 3000. (n/t) - alcaray - 8/23/2004 11:47:45 PM
    - re: yes and no - gbaikie - 8/23/2004 12:54:51 AM
    - re: yes and no - Tom Brosz - 8/22/2004 10:21:37 PM
      - Yes and No again - Buck Galaxy - 8/23/2004 12:35:39 AM
        
        Energy, and other points. - Tom Brosz - 8/23/2004 4:02:48 AM
        
        Missing the points. - Buck Galaxy - 8/23/2004 7:18:35 AM
        
        "...the free market is a wonderful thing and it will indeed produce results if offered tax-free profits." - Tom Brosz - 8/23/2004 5:45:28 PM
        
        Okay. Let's put 100,000 more troops back there in April. - Tom Brosz - 8/23/2004 5:43:27 PM
        
        Rephrase: there were 0 guys standing there with a gun. - alcaray - 8/23/2004 11:51:12 PM
        
        re: Missing the points. - Larry J - 8/23/2004 3:39:42 PM
        
        Taking on the Iranians - Gary - 8/24/2004 6:05:31 AM
        
        re: Missing the points. - gbaikie - 8/23/2004 10:45:46 AM
        
        re: Yes and No again - gbaikie - 8/23/2004 2:21:05 AM
    - Kerry Mostly Right On Domestic Front, Untrustworthy On Security Front (n/t) - Mark Eby - 8/22/2004 9:32:44 PM
      - Kerry vs Bush an issue based rating system - phil - 8/22/2004 11:37:33 PM
        
        Okay, I'll bite... - Gary - 8/23/2004 12:20:03 AM

Good news roundup from Afghanistan - Tom Brosz - 8/24/2004 5:55:34 AM

A note on the Alabama National Guard - Tom Brosz - 8/24/2004 5:33:20 AM

California legislature in last minute bill melee - Tom Brosz - 8/24/2004 5:06:42 AM

Bush huddles with military team - 'Making progress' in Iraq, president says - Bowser - 8/24/2004 12:27:42 AM
- Well, it's obvious you can't stand the progress (n/t) - SteveS - 8/24/2004 4:19:08 AM

Kerry campaign August timeline - Tom Brosz - 8/24/2004 3:20:19 AM

Religion of Peace Update - p - 8/22/2004 9:38:29 PM
- Religion of Piece Update - E.P. Grondine - 8/23/2004 2:59:53 PM
  - re: Religion of Piece Update - Tom Brosz - 8/24/2004 3:05:01 AM
- re: Religion of Peace Update - Bowser - 8/22/2004 11:27:16 PM
  - Doubt that was the point Bowser - Art Martin - 8/22/2004 11:52:27 PM
    - re: Consistency of policy is overrated... - Scott Evil - 8/23/2004 2:18:58 PM
    - If the message had been "man's inhumanity to man", it would have been different. - Bowser - 8/23/2004 1:09:13 AM

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