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Terry McAulliff got the Kerry supporters going in Dubuque, IA today by claiming Bush knew in advance the 9/11 attacks were coming. - Scott Evil - 9/28/2004 10:12:15 PM
- That is preposterous. We had vague general warnings, but nothing that would permit us to prevent the attacks. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 9/29/2004 7:01:52 PM
- Got link? Cos not in Lindy's.... (n/t) - Tony - 9/29/2004 12:52:19 PM
  - re: can't find any stories discussing McAulliff's remarks - Scott Evil - 9/29/2004 2:09:35 PM
    - so you made it up? (n/t) - Tony - 9/29/2004 3:14:55 PM
      - re: I actually heard a news report of it on a local radio station. - Scott Evil - 9/29/2004 3:32:26 PM
        
        suprised freepers not all over it........ (n/t) - Tony - 9/29/2004 3:46:10 PM
- The DNC burnt earth 'strategy' is not going to work - ebnelson - 9/29/2004 12:04:56 AM
- re: There is a 9/11 widow who is trying to file a RICO Lawsuit against Bush - Chris Vancil - 9/28/2004 10:44:00 PM
  - Lawyers love manipulating widows. - ebnelson - 9/29/2004 12:06:13 AM
- link? (n/t) - alcaray - 9/28/2004 10:16:23 PM
  - Link - Lindy - 9/29/2004 6:19:28 AM

A real hero in Pakistan - LJ - 9/29/2004 3:43:58 PM
- A brave women indeed - SteveS - 9/29/2004 4:18:52 PM
  - Now, what about the US? The "religion of peace". And women. - Bowser - 9/29/2004 5:04:51 PM
    - re: Now, what about the US? The "religion of peace". And women. - gbaikie - 9/29/2004 6:45:49 PM
    - re: Now, what about the US? The "religion of peace". And women. - LJ - 9/29/2004 5:17:03 PM
      - re: Now, what about the US? The "religion of peace". And women. - SteveS - 9/29/2004 5:36:27 PM
        
        Meant for Bowser reply - SteveS - 9/29/2004 5:51:32 PM

...Acid Rain...Drug Addiction...International Terrorism...Freeway killings... - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/29/2004 6:38:45 PM

From the Congressional Record, Nov. 9, 1997 - Tom Brosz - 9/28/2004 7:35:54 PM
- UNFAIR! Kerry was not running for election than and could be sincere (n/t) - p - 9/29/2004 12:31:53 AM
- Kerry 1997 we don't need UN approval to invade Iraq - SteveS - 9/28/2004 9:49:27 PM
  - I see Lee already posted this link below (n/t) - SteveS - 9/28/2004 11:08:53 PM
    - I don't mind. The bigger the chorus the better. :) (n/t) - Lee - 9/29/2004 1:26:41 AM
      - Thanks, it takes me a while to read all the post - SteveS - 9/29/2004 3:57:37 PM
- Sound and Fury... (n/t) - McFly - 9/28/2004 9:00:28 PM
  - So Kery was signifying nothing in those days, or is signifying nothing today? - ebnelson - 9/29/2004 1:12:40 AM
- It's that old black and white thinking again. And "freedom" and "democracy" are Bushie fictions. - Bowser - 9/28/2004 8:37:15 PM
  - "Absolutely sure?" Please let the rest of us in on your plan. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/29/2004 1:22:31 AM
    - OK. Saddam is gone. And the US is STILL waging war upon the Iraqi people. Go figure. (n/t) - Bowser - 9/29/2004 4:13:45 AM
      - Now, Dan, you know that is a false claim. You know we are not waging war on the Iraqi people. Please don't lie here. We are not democrat sheep. (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/29/2004 10:59:38 AM
  - So freedom and democracy are artifacts of the VRWC? - ebnelson - 9/29/2004 1:07:56 AM
  - re: There will be Free and Democratic elections in Iraq. - Scott Evil - 9/28/2004 8:52:20 PM
    - And how will that happen? Remember Hungary, Czechoslovakia? - Bowser - 9/28/2004 9:03:02 PM
      - Uhhh, who was running Czhech and Hungary, Bowser? - ebnelson - 9/29/2004 1:10:12 AM
      - re: Your a fool if you don't see a difference between the elections in Iraq and the Puppet elections that took place in Checkoslovakia during the cold war. - Scott Evil - 9/28/2004 9:46:27 PM
        
        And those differences are? Just a rant, no content. (n/t) - Bowser - 9/28/2004 10:03:48 PM
        
        We are allwatching you rant and post null content. Please stop pretending like you are guiding this conversation. - ebnelson - 9/29/2004 1:11:48 AM
- re:This is the guy who says "I have been unequivical in my position...I have always been against the war in Iraq" - Scott Evil - 9/28/2004 7:45:17 PM

Families of Iraq War Dead Target Bush in Ads - Donald - 9/29/2004 2:35:23 PM
- You should have read the full article (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/29/2004 3:51:22 PM

What would happen if the US simply pulled out of Iraq as quickly as possible? - LJ - 9/28/2004 4:24:29 PM
- There could be a way. - Bowser - 9/28/2004 5:27:19 PM
  - So, which nations are you going to raise this "Muslim force" from? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/28/2004 6:26:01 PM
    - Not seeing a lot of names, here... - Tom Brosz - 9/29/2004 1:35:08 AM
      - Is that your only question? (n/t) - Bowser - 9/29/2004 4:05:30 AM
        
        For starters. Any chance of a goddam answer? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/29/2004 4:33:09 AM
    - With a world population of 2 billion Muslims, it shouldn't be impossible... (n/t) - LJ - 9/28/2004 9:15:26 PM
    - Is that the only question you have about the idea? - Bowser - 9/28/2004 9:06:33 PM
      - Call Kerry asap. He is a bit short on policy ideas right about now. - ebnelson - 9/29/2004 1:17:42 AM
    - Same ones Sec State Powell talked with (n/t) - E.P. Grondine - 9/28/2004 7:10:01 PM
  - So the Iraqis don't deserve a shot at having their own feree country? - ebnelson - 9/28/2004 5:57:03 PM
    - re: So the Iraqis don't deserve a shot at having their own free country? - gbaikie - 9/28/2004 7:06:35 PM
      - Kerry stomp - ebnelson - 9/29/2004 1:20:52 AM
  - re: There could be a way. - LJ - 9/28/2004 5:53:22 PM
- re: I think it would be a complete mess. - Scott Evil - 9/28/2004 5:08:55 PM
  - What if the people of Iraq vote that their government oppose Israeli expansion? - E.P. Grondine - 9/28/2004 7:20:54 PM
  - We're still in Japan and Germany. Huh? - LJ - 9/28/2004 5:22:39 PM
    - In 1980 we had almost twice as many troops stationed at bases in Europe than we do now in Iraq. - Tom Brosz - 9/28/2004 6:31:02 PM
    - In the late 40's and 50's it would have. (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/28/2004 5:58:34 PM
      - News Flash! It is now 2004! (n/t) - LJ - 9/28/2004 9:16:16 PM
        
        re: News Flash! It is now 2004! That is why we are staying in Iraq! Helloooooo???? anyone home? (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/29/2004 2:24:14 PM
    - Hey I'm all for letting Japan and Germany defend themselves. - Scott Evil - 9/28/2004 5:31:46 PM
      - From what?? (n/t) - LJ - 9/28/2004 5:38:10 PM
        
        re: From whatever they want to defend themselves from. - Scott Evil - 9/28/2004 6:35:40 PM
        
        Some of them are starting to think that its us they need defense from (n/t) - alcaray - 9/28/2004 8:54:56 PM
- Slaughter of millions of Iraqis, - ebnelson - 9/28/2004 4:34:37 PM
- You'd think we'd have learned something from the last time we abandoned Iraq. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/28/2004 4:29:52 PM
  - You mean like after GW1 when Saddam still had a solid regime and a firm grip on power? (n/t) - LJ - 9/28/2004 5:24:05 PM

Headlines: "75% increase in the price of oil in the past year." - Iraq was an oil grab, pure and simple. - John - 9/29/2004 12:29:10 AM
- I'm sorry, I'm having a bit of trouble figuring out the relationship between high oil prices and "grabbing" Iraqi oil. - Tom Brosz - 9/29/2004 1:15:19 AM
  - It really is very simple. Capitalism, free markets, and all that. - Bowser - 9/29/2004 4:11:10 AM
- Please define 'oil grab' (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/29/2004 1:02:12 AM
- Well, it wasn't removing Saddam, WMDs, "freedom" and "democracy". What's left? - Bowser - 9/29/2004 12:34:46 AM
  - Says who? (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/29/2004 1:02:58 AM
    - Around here, pretty much just Bowser. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/29/2004 1:16:21 AM
      - Count me on Bowser's side, for one (n/t) - LJ - 9/29/2004 4:43:10 AM
      - Since it ain't Saddam, WMDs or "democracy", what is it? (n/t) - Bowser - 9/29/2004 4:02:53 AM
      - I think he gets it from his dog. - ebnelson - 9/29/2004 1:18:28 AM
        
        As I've said, my dog is a liberal. It's easy to tell. - Bowser - 9/29/2004 5:13:54 AM
        
        Well good luck with that learning. - ebnelson - 9/29/2004 1:53:04 PM
        
        Hey Bowser.......... - Lindy - 9/29/2004 5:54:46 AM

France. Who else? - Tom Brosz - 9/28/2004 2:09:37 AM
- re: You've got to accept the other side in the negotiations - Raoul - 9/28/2004 8:09:41 AM
  - Not that I want the US to sit down with AQ or Zarqawi, but..... - Tony - 9/28/2004 5:25:44 PM
    - Good point - ebnelson - 9/28/2004 6:42:20 PM
  - Yeah. That worked. - Tom Brosz - 9/28/2004 3:25:19 PM
    - re: The Vietnam war eventually ended, didn't it? - Raoul - 9/28/2004 3:59:02 PM
      - Don't They Teach History In Europe? (n/t) - I'm Beggining To Wonder - 9/28/2004 5:01:30 PM
        
        re: That's Precisely WHY we consider war as the last possible solution. War is far too dangerous and with unpredictable consequences. And they keep unfolding in Iraq. (n/t) - Raoul - 9/28/2004 10:29:08 PM
        
        Why Do You Prefer Predictable Disaster To Possible Failure (n/t) - ? - 9/29/2004 11:53:36 AM
      - If we had not fought WWII, at some point the Holocaust would have ended too. - Tom Brosz - 9/28/2004 4:37:52 PM
        
        re: If we had not fought WWII, at some point the Holocaust would have ended too. - gbaikie - 9/28/2004 8:46:35 PM
      - And the VC and Khmer Rouge murdered millions. - ebnelson - 9/28/2004 4:25:22 PM
  - So negotiate with Al Zaqawari? (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/28/2004 12:49:06 PM
- Hard to tell what Kerry thinks of France. - Lee - 9/28/2004 7:57:23 AM
  - re: And they wonder why Kerry is considered a flip-flopper... (n/t) - Scott Evil - 9/28/2004 1:18:12 PM
- If we weren't there to bail them out, would they still choose to be such losers? (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/28/2004 3:52:08 AM

So now we know why so many democrats have been sponsoring laws to renew the Draft - ebnelson - 9/29/2004 1:31:23 AM
- US military reserves baulk at Iraq, Afghanistan recall - Chris Vancil - 9/29/2004 7:32:34 AM
- War takes toll on Guard retention, enlistments - Chris Vancil - 9/29/2004 7:19:11 AM
- CBS News spreads another lie - Tom Brosz - 9/29/2004 4:22:53 AM
  - It's official. !468 more and they'll be up with Bush. Nope, 1470, sorry, 1475. - Bowser - 9/29/2004 4:49:21 AM
    - Seriously... - Tom Brosz - 9/29/2004 5:37:42 AM
      - P.S. - Tom Brosz - 9/29/2004 5:40:07 AM
    - Are your numbers "fake, but accurate?" (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/29/2004 5:27:27 AM

Bush's Terrorism - Chris Vancil - 9/29/2004 6:58:26 AM

A "free" and "democratic" Iraq - "The Bush Administration takes heat for a CIA plan to influence Iraq's elections" - Bowser - 9/28/2004 8:32:59 PM
- We influenced elections in Italy, Japan, Germany, and most of post WWII Europe - ebnelson - 9/29/2004 12:08:22 AM
- re: this is why the election of Kerry would spell doom for our troops in Iraq. - Scott Evil - 9/28/2004 8:58:16 PM
  - rWhat if teh people of Iraq vote that their government oppose Israeli expansion? - E.P. Grondine - 9/29/2004 12:21:39 AM
  - Just a rant, no content, less meaning. Answer the post if you can. (n/t) - Bowser - 9/28/2004 9:04:12 PM
    - re: I'd be upset if the CIA wasn't supporting moderate candidates who might look out of American interests. - Scott Evil - 9/28/2004 9:50:21 PM
      - This, then, is an election to benefit the US, not for a free Iraq. - Bowser - 9/28/2004 10:02:49 PM
        
        And how much have you done? Really, no lying this time. - ebnelson - 9/29/2004 1:04:58 AM
        
        re: Ah the old Zero Sum fallacy technique. - Scott Evil - 9/28/2004 10:13:57 PM
        
        Are Iraqi interests identical to American interests? - Bowser - 9/29/2004 12:30:24 AM
        
        Not want a foreign army patrolling the streets... - ebnelson - 9/29/2004 2:39:42 AM

Don't we all know this? "Jordan king doubts Iraq elections" - Bowser - 9/28/2004 1:28:58 AM
- But you like Cuba, if I recall. - ebnelson - 9/28/2004 3:54:39 AM
  - Ah, Cuba, that last bastion of Socialist Democracy in the Western Hemisphere. Castro is so beloved that, despite his efforts to decline the office, he has been re-elected to be dictator over and over… (n/t) - David F Mayer - 9/28/2004 8:56:22 PM
- Yeah, the absolute monarch of Jordan is going to tell us all how democracy should work. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/28/2004 1:56:06 AM
  - re: You're again being absurd. Abdullah or anyone could understand with the current situation in Iraq you couldn't hold elections... - Chris Vancil - 9/28/2004 6:38:36 AM
  - As a Christain conservative in the US is going to tell a Middle Eastern country how it should be run? - Bowser - 9/28/2004 4:15:48 AM
    - Nope, we are going to let Iraq rule itself and stay out of it. - REB - 9/28/2004 2:23:56 PM

94% of americans say they will watch at least part of debates - Tony - 9/28/2004 7:53:10 PM

Greyhawk posting from Iraq now - Tom Brosz - 9/28/2004 6:59:13 PM
- re: Greyhawk posting from Iraq now - gbaikie - 9/28/2004 7:38:55 PM
  - re: The Democrats can wave off Kerry's words. - Scott Evil - 9/28/2004 7:51:50 PM

1,052 - Donald - 9/28/2004 12:42:58 AM
- Go, herr Goebbels, go! (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/28/2004 1:26:30 AM
  - re: You off your medication? (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 9/28/2004 6:44:56 AM
  - Probably belongs on Flame, if anywhere, eb. (n/t) - Bowser - 9/28/2004 2:40:25 AM
    - Probably belongs wherever I want it. - ebnelson - 9/28/2004 3:13:04 AM
      - It's personal, eb. Unbecoming to a Habitablezone. An insult to ALL the reasonable posters. (n/t) - Bowser\ - 9/28/2004 4:03:50 AM
        
        You don't do smug well, but you do hypocrite very well. (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/28/2004 12:50:31 PM
        
        And do any of you over on the right side of the fence want to speak up?! - Davin L. - 9/28/2004 1:00:18 PM
        
        What the hell would it accomplish? - Tom Brosz - 9/28/2004 4:57:42 PM
        
        I see, so the idea of a self policing community only applies in select cases - Davin L. - 9/28/2004 5:26:53 PM
        
        And another good Flame against the Right. - REB - 9/28/2004 3:02:31 PM
        
        Its called false inference, and its a childish rhetorical Fallacy - Davin L. - 9/28/2004 3:20:19 PM
        
        Sure - REB - 9/28/2004 1:45:29 PM
        
        re: Sure - Davin L. - 9/28/2004 2:45:36 PM
        
        re: Sure - REB - 9/28/2004 3:00:17 PM
        
        re: Sure - Davin L. - 9/28/2004 3:17:35 PM
        
        re: Sure - REB - 9/28/2004 3:24:30 PM
        
        re: Sure - Davin L - 9/28/2004 3:28:05 PM
        
        re: Sure - REB - 9/28/2004 3:38:46 PM
        
        re: Sure - Davin L - 9/28/2004 3:46:45 PM
        
        Nelson- shut the heck up and go do this on flame. - Davin L. - 9/28/2004 12:56:50 PM
        
        BTW, nice Flame. (NT) - REB - 9/28/2004 3:01:23 PM
        
        Thanks, someone should stand up to the Bully - Davin L. - 9/28/2004 3:21:13 PM
        
        As soon as Don posts his lying spam there, I will. - ebnelson - 9/28/2004 2:58:02 PM
        
        to try to actually address you, have a discussion with you - Davin L. - 9/28/2004 3:44:31 PM
        
        Teh war is the central issue of our time. Don lies about why we are at war daily. He hurts each of us with that lie. - ebnelson - 9/28/2004 3:50:18 PM
        
        None of that addresses what I said - Davin L. - 9/28/2004 4:05:54 PM
        
        don chooses to engage in spam - ebnelson - 9/28/2004 4:27:36 PM
        
        Thats what your opinion of it is - Davin L. - 9/28/2004 5:18:54 PM
        
        But it is his opinion as well on his side. - ebnelson - 9/28/2004 5:52:03 PM
        
        Well, then, you have granted my point. - Davin L. - 9/28/2004 7:09:57 PM
        
        link - Davin L. - 9/28/2004 5:31:49 PM
      - Albatross! (n/t) - Fox - 9/28/2004 3:31:56 AM
        
        Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner. (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/28/2004 3:55:20 AM

Clock ticking in Iran. - Tom Brosz - 9/28/2004 3:32:47 PM
- My hope is that we can solve this diplomatically - LJ - 9/28/2004 5:35:51 PM
  - re: My hope is that we can solve this diplomatically - gbaikie - 9/28/2004 6:23:19 PM
  - Maybe we'll see a Texas Instrument Paveway-Bomb Diplomacy? (n/t) - Jacob Samorodin - 9/28/2004 6:15:42 PM
    - Depending on the election results, perhaps in mid-November (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/28/2004 7:08:05 PM
- Pres. Bush has made it clear: Iraq will not permitted to go nuke. - ebnelson - 9/28/2004 3:44:37 PM
  - [Iran] - ebnelson - 9/28/2004 3:45:32 PM

Something we could all work on together - Art Martin - 9/27/2004 6:02:27 PM
- Thanks Art, for extending the discussion, - jms - 9/27/2004 11:29:49 PM
  - Yes, agreed - ebnelson - 9/28/2004 7:06:58 PM
- A democratic website in Colorado is discussing this at length. - ebnelson - 9/27/2004 7:23:28 PM
- Good idea, but method of emergency replacement of Congress is higher priority - E.P. Grondine - 9/27/2004 6:59:33 PM
  - Tom Clancy says we'd survive and end up with Harrison Ford as President. Works for me. lol (n/t) - Art Martin - 9/27/2004 9:16:09 PM
  - re: We could survive 6 months without a congress. - Scott Evil - 9/27/2004 7:25:58 PM
    - We get hit that hard, and we will be worried more - ebnelson - 9/27/2004 8:52:25 PM
- Perhaps we should discuss the merits of the EC first? (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/27/2004 6:43:04 PM
  - Merits? - Tony - 9/27/2004 7:36:18 PM
    - The Electoral College was created for a reason - Larry J - 9/27/2004 8:45:21 PM
      - for a lot of reasons, many of which no longer exist - Art Martin - 9/27/2004 9:33:06 PM
        
        A representative republic is better at protecting the rights of a minority than a pure democracy - Larry J - 9/27/2004 9:48:14 PM
        
        It still would not be a pure democracy - Art Martin - 9/27/2004 10:34:06 PM
        
        It's hard to get over 50% of the vote if there's a strong 3rd party - Larry J - 9/27/2004 11:44:03 PM
        
        See merits of both arguments - Art Martin - 9/27/2004 11:52:29 PM
        
        Voter initiatives - Larry J - 9/28/2004 1:26:14 PM
        
        that may be so - ebnelson - 9/27/2004 9:46:39 PM
      - No amendment to constitution required - Tony - 9/27/2004 9:27:35 PM
        
        Ok, let's start with the biggest states... - Larry J - 9/27/2004 9:45:29 PM
        
        I was not aware taht it was being carpet bagged. - ebnelson - 9/27/2004 9:49:08 PM
        
        All votes do count today, and if you are a democrat, they often count twice. - ebnelson - 9/27/2004 9:45:18 PM
        
        Well the discussion was civil - Art Martin - 9/27/2004 10:04:49 PM
        
        Good point. - ebnelson - 9/27/2004 10:28:01 PM
        
        Jokes work for me. (n/t) - Art Martin - 9/27/2004 10:43:12 PM
    - re: Merits? - ebnelson - 9/27/2004 7:49:09 PM
      - re: Merits? - Marcia - 9/27/2004 8:15:20 PM
        
        A very good overview, thanks Marcia. (n/t) - jms - 9/27/2004 9:50:45 PM
        
        Very interesting. Thanks for posting the link. (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/27/2004 8:33:14 PM

Moer on the Colorado EC initiative from a Colorado resident - ebnelson - 9/28/2004 6:27:04 PM

Hitchins: "Flirting With Disaster" - Larry J - 9/28/2004 1:38:56 PM
- Nailed better than I could - Tony - 9/28/2004 5:53:07 PM
  - re: Nailed better than I could - gbaikie - 9/28/2004 6:07:58 PM
  - The lefties posturing that they would have done this better has zip crediblity - ebnelson - 9/28/2004 6:04:11 PM
- More Hitchens - Tom Brosz - 9/28/2004 4:14:49 PM
  - re: More Hitchens - gbaikie - 9/28/2004 5:55:57 PM
- hammer nail head - ebnelson - 9/28/2004 3:08:48 PM

The 2 Simona's have been freed according to RAI (n/t) - Raoul - 9/28/2004 4:03:43 PM
- Great News!!! (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/28/2004 5:57:37 PM

After helping Hugo chavez steal Venezuela, Jimmy Carter seeks to further diminsih his legacy - ebnelson - 9/27/2004 9:10:20 PM
- Lessee. eb, or Carter? eb, or the OAS? eb, or the Venezuelan CNE? Boy, howdy!!! - Bowser - 9/28/2004 1:36:28 AM
  - Those pesky exit polls - ebnelson - 9/28/2004 3:14:55 AM
    - Ya got any data, eb? Hate isn't enough. Cite something. (n/t) - Bowser - 9/28/2004 4:16:37 AM
      - I don't ahte Jimmy, I pity him. How about this, for citations: - ebnelson - 9/28/2004 5:00:46 PM
- Update: It appears Jimmy Carter pulled a Rather - ebnelson - 9/28/2004 1:25:54 AM
- You wrote: "No comments about the dead being registered to vote democrat around the country." - David F Mayer - 9/27/2004 11:47:31 PM
  - hehehehe - ebnelson - 9/28/2004 12:00:07 AM
- re: Thank you, Ed. (n/t) - Marcia - 9/27/2004 11:07:10 PM

Abu Ghraib, Gitmo techniques learned from Isreal's secret torture chamber called 1391 - John - 9/27/2004 2:30:23 PM
- re: According to John Kerry this type of atrosity has been a routine American practice as far back as Vietnam - Scott Evil - 9/27/2004 2:51:31 PM
  - The sort of thing Kerry has described is very close to the "action". Please cite, or - Bowser - 9/27/2004 11:00:23 PM
  - re: According to John Kerry this type of atrosity has been a routine American practice as far back as Vietnam - John - 9/27/2004 3:28:03 PM
  - Citations, please? (n/t) - Bowser - 9/27/2004 3:22:49 PM
    - Look Kerry's Senate testimony yourself. (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/27/2004 4:56:39 PM
      - It could be fun to get this stuff out of you, eb. - Bowser - 9/27/2004 11:02:33 PM
        
        Keep your eyes closed, and keep drinking that koolaid. (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/28/2004 12:51:47 PM

Hope the "virgin" supply is plentiful this week in Hell! - gbaikie - 9/28/2004 8:41:41 AM

Africa: "The Coming Anarchy" - Tom Brosz - 9/27/2004 4:40:29 AM
- I'll just let the facts speak for themselves. (n/t) - Lee - 9/28/2004 8:26:05 AM
- Wrong tense: It should be present tense, not future. (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/27/2004 6:57:59 PM
- Africa Has ALWAYS Been In a State of Anarchy (n/t) - David F Mayer - 9/27/2004 5:18:20 AM
- P.S. be sure to note the date. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/27/2004 4:44:08 AM

"The Rule of the Gun" (Afghanistan Election Problems) - Chris Vancil - 9/28/2004 7:03:30 AM

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