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Violence leaves Iraqis in despair - Donald - 5/19/2004 5:00:28 AM
- If the idiots really cared about security, they would provide information to the Occupation Authority to help find these criminals. Instead, they berate us. They need to start behaving like citizens. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 5/19/2004 6:15:24 PM

Death of Prisoner Detailed in Testimony - Bowser - 5/19/2004 4:18:05 AM
- Proud to be an American?? - Lindy - 5/19/2004 5:27:25 PM

Hmmm. "Report: U.S. tried to curb Red Cross inspections" - Bowser - 5/19/2004 2:30:29 PM
- From the Red Cross website - Tom Brosz - 5/19/2004 3:52:01 PM
  - Early May: CIA confirms that some of its officers hid Iraqi prisoners from watchdog groups like the Red Cross. - Jack Herer - 5/19/2004 4:56:55 PM

Oh oh! On Drudge - Iraqi relatives want death penalty for torturers. - Bowser - 5/19/2004 5:01:36 AM
- Well - Perspective - 5/19/2004 4:54:41 PM

FACTORY BUSH TOUTED CLOSES; 1,300 OHIOANS JOBLESS - Bowser - 5/19/2004 5:09:21 AM
- I'm surprised that Timken has any factories left in the US - Gary - 5/19/2004 4:19:17 PM
- That stupid company has been withering for decades. Nothing can save it because MANAGEMENT DOES NOT CARE AT ALL. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 5/19/2004 1:12:12 PM
- So much for the Bush "recovery" - Donald - 5/19/2004 12:24:15 PM

The Latest- Sarin, Mustard Gas Discovered Separately in Iraq - REB - 5/17/2004 6:19:40 PM
- Watch the leftist twits rationalize it away - ebnelson - 5/18/2004 2:25:41 AM
  - Going on Ed patrol - SDG - 5/18/2004 3:00:49 PM
    - Don't agree, too PC - RobVG - 5/18/2004 5:38:20 PM
    - re: "ed patrol" - Fox - 5/18/2004 3:33:49 PM
      - re: "ed patrol" - REB - 5/18/2004 5:08:31 PM
        
        tnx, REB - Fox - 5/18/2004 5:16:47 PM
        
        Some free advice. - Bowser - 5/19/2004 4:44:31 AM
        
        Will you miss the smell of pipe tabbaco? - RobVG - 5/18/2004 11:27:25 PM
        
        thanks, Rob and Bowser (n/t) - Fox - 5/19/2004 2:42:42 PM
        
        Another tip I learned. - REB - 5/18/2004 5:18:33 PM
      - Not me. - Tony - 5/18/2004 4:32:33 PM
    - Useless. - Bowser - 5/18/2004 3:33:41 PM
      - In case you hadn't noticed. . . - Fox - 5/18/2004 4:38:47 PM
        
        GAWD NO! - Bowser - 5/18/2004 5:41:06 PM
        
        Think that's bad? - SDG - 5/18/2004 7:05:13 PM
        
        A big EEEEEEEEEK on both your houses (n/t) - Tony - 5/18/2004 7:41:11 PM
- They're still analyzing it. Let's not all jump the gun. - Tom Brosz - 5/17/2004 11:22:11 PM
- The Mossad and/or CIA should have planted something by now!! (n/t) - Bowser - 5/17/2004 7:48:43 PM
  - Of course it is all conspiracy, rotf&lmfao@u, you fool (n/t) - ebnelson - 5/18/2004 2:27:04 AM
  - I Have Been Silently Waiting To See How Long This Would Take (n/t) - Perspective - 5/17/2004 8:03:15 PM
    - Tell me - do you think the Bush Administration is trustworthy? - Bowser - 5/17/2004 8:36:30 PM
      - re: Tell me - do you think the Bush Administration is trustworthy? - Perspective - 5/17/2004 8:56:50 PM
        
        That's all very interesting. Now, do YOU think the Bush Administration etc. - Bowser - 5/17/2004 11:20:18 PM
        
        re: That's all very interesting. Now, do YOU think the Bush Administration etc. - Perspective - 5/17/2004 11:41:25 PM
        
        OK. (n/t) - Bowser - 5/18/2004 1:06:00 AM
        
        You're starting to yammer. How about waiting and seeing what they find out? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 5/17/2004 11:38:32 PM
        
        Another name that belongs on the list - FrankC - 5/17/2004 9:20:58 PM
      - Yes - REB - 5/17/2004 8:40:34 PM
        
        A whiff of very old sarin counts as WMD to you? - Bowser - 5/17/2004 8:48:41 PM
        
        A whiff of that stuff can kill you. - REB - 5/18/2004 1:26:57 PM
        
        And, breaking news at Fox, 3-4 Liters of Sarin - REB - 5/18/2004 4:27:02 PM
    - That's the heartburn I was talking about... - FrankC - 5/17/2004 8:26:51 PM
      - I know, you DO believe 'em. Even though in this area they have NEVER been right. (n/t) - Bowser - 5/17/2004 8:39:05 PM
        
        Nope - FrankC - 5/17/2004 9:01:18 PM
        
        But I will admit.. - FrankC - 5/17/2004 9:05:48 PM
  - Don't think so - REB - 5/17/2004 8:02:01 PM
- Not a big deal at this point - FrankC - 5/17/2004 7:12:26 PM
  - Just the tip of the iceberg. These guys have started using Sarin shells. They will continue to do so. - David F Mayer - 5/17/2004 8:59:21 PM
- re: The Latest- Sarin, Mustard Gas Discovered Separately in Iraq - Perspective - 5/17/2004 7:01:09 PM
  - U.S. Confirms WMDs Found in Iraq - REB - 5/17/2004 7:11:19 PM
    - I Think This Is Basically The Same Story With A New Lead (n/t) (n/t) - Perspective - 5/17/2004 7:18:43 PM

Pessimism grows about Iraq's future - Donald - 5/19/2004 12:27:38 PM
- Meanwhile: U.S. Faces Growing Fears of Failure - Donald - 5/19/2004 12:32:58 PM

The Israelis are truly barbarians. - Bowser - 5/18/2004 7:51:31 PM
- As I have pointed out in the past... - Tom Brosz - 5/18/2004 10:24:21 PM
  - And you've been wrong it the past. They, at least, admit it. (n/t) - Bowser - 5/18/2004 10:34:04 PM
- The Israelis should have done it in 1967. - Lee - 5/18/2004 9:57:59 PM
- The Palestinians are Truly Barbarians. - David F Mayer - 5/18/2004 8:23:18 PM
  - It's difficult to imagine how the palestinian leadership could have done a worse job - Buck Galaxy - 5/19/2004 6:08:57 AM

Berg video - Tom Brosz - 5/15/2004 12:03:02 AM
- and the inconsistancies surrounding his beheading.... - Nick - 5/15/2004 10:23:11 PM
  - You are a perfect fool (n/t) - ebnelson - 5/19/2004 4:10:09 AM
  - Fair and balanced: "[DELETED]" - R.L. - 5/16/2004 7:41:12 AM
    - R.L. - Robert (as moderator) - 5/16/2004 4:38:40 PM
  - Some things look suspicious - Lindy - 5/16/2004 2:21:21 AM
    - INSANE LEFT WING PARTISAN HACKS... - R.L. - 5/16/2004 7:20:56 AM
      - Trash, you say...as in white trash? - Lindy - 5/16/2004 4:44:08 PM
        
        re: Trash, you say...as in white trash? - R.L. - 5/16/2004 8:40:24 PM
      - Take it to the Flame board (n/t) - Robert (as moderator) - 5/16/2004 4:40:24 PM
  - One explanation: You're insane. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 5/15/2004 11:37:51 PM

you dropped your spare change, tovarisch - Daniel - 5/18/2004 4:12:14 PM
- Just fell off the old turnip truck, so to speak. - Bowser - 5/19/2004 4:09:01 AM

That's right - torture Reuters reporters. And this wasn't Abu Ghraib. - Bowser - 5/18/2004 10:32:43 PM
- Former Military Intelligence Staffer: 'Definitely a Cover-Upâ€™ - Nick - 5/19/2004 12:00:14 AM
  - Sorry. The True Believers say no. No cover-up. - Bowser - 5/19/2004 2:13:34 AM

Should all captured Al Qaeda operatives be shot? - David F Mayer - 5/18/2004 8:20:23 PM
- re: No, we have to torture them first . . . - D. Spires - 5/18/2004 10:14:00 PM
- Hang them at ground zero. (n/t) - Lee - 5/18/2004 9:42:27 PM
- Make them watch Gigli over and over... - REB - 5/18/2004 8:35:39 PM
  - What is "Gigli"??? (n/t) - David F Mayer - 5/18/2004 8:43:10 PM
    - If you don't know, you are lucky. - REB - 5/18/2004 9:01:36 PM
      - Gigli is ranked no.15 in the 100 worst movies of all time (imdb.com) (n/t) - m - 5/19/2004 1:10:46 AM
- If that includes the Republican Guard and, oh hell, the rest of the Republicans you have a point. (n/t) - Publius - 5/18/2004 8:24:18 PM

Memos and Secrets - Tony - 5/18/2004 7:07:39 PM
- the Geneva Conventions - Robert - 5/18/2004 9:04:51 PM
- What are you missing? The courts-martial of enlisted people. - Bowser - 5/18/2004 7:56:30 PM

Bush and Blair speed up their exit strategy - Bowser - 5/17/2004 4:13:15 AM
- Damned if we do damned if we don't - Buck Galaxy - 5/17/2004 5:31:21 AM
  - re: Damned ............... - Publius - 5/18/2004 9:03:50 PM
  - It's a little unfair... - alcaray - 5/17/2004 5:12:45 PM
    - re: It's a little unfair... - Tom Brosz - 5/18/2004 3:41:17 AM
    - No it's not unfair - Buck Galaxy - 5/17/2004 6:03:29 PM
      - I disagree. Nevertheless, I'll give you my opinion. - alcaray - 5/17/2004 10:56:06 PM
        
        re: my opinion - Tom Brosz - 5/18/2004 3:37:41 PM
        
        re: my opinion - alcaray - 5/18/2004 5:30:52 PM
      - There is no good way out, or farther in!!!! - Bowser - 5/17/2004 7:59:26 PM
  - I think that's the point. - Bowser - 5/17/2004 12:05:14 PM

India's Stock Market Crashes - Success_Machine - 5/18/2004 1:15:47 AM
- But apparently walks away unharmed... - McFly - 5/18/2004 6:25:10 PM
  - McFly - Tony - 5/18/2004 8:12:43 PM

U.S. State Department Issues Report Examining Government Record On Promoting Rights. - Bowser - 5/18/2004 6:41:24 PM

Just when you thought things couldn't get worse - Donald - 5/17/2004 12:55:29 PM
- A blow to Iraq's "democracy" - Lindy - 5/17/2004 2:55:11 PM
  - re: A blow to Iraq's "democracy" - McFly - 5/17/2004 9:20:12 PM
    - "A path to sure rebellion" - Lindy - 5/18/2004 3:29:35 AM
  - "Taking our soldiers from this country " - RobVG - 5/17/2004 3:25:24 PM
    - "At least in Iraq we have something to shoot at" - Lindy - 5/18/2004 3:12:56 AM
      - "Why do we need anything to shoot at in the first place?" - RobVG - 5/18/2004 2:38:53 PM
    - It's not hard to find something to shoot at. - alcaray - 5/17/2004 10:59:27 PM
      - And they accuse conservatives of being simplistic... (n/t) - RobVG - 5/18/2004 2:41:18 PM
        
        Your post stated: "At least in Iraq we have something to shoot at." - alcaray - 5/18/2004 5:36:42 PM
    - re: "Taking our soldiers from this country " - Lindy - 5/17/2004 6:14:00 PM

Arrests In Berg Murder - Perspective - 5/18/2004 3:07:17 PM
- "48 hour" rule might be a good idea on this one. - Tom Brosz - 5/18/2004 4:55:30 PM

A Marine Speaks Out "'I killed innocent people for our government'" - Lindy - 5/18/2004 5:28:40 AM
- re: A Marine Speaks Out "'I killed innocent people for our government'" - Tom Brosz - 5/18/2004 5:59:24 AM
  - Differing Opinions - Lindy - 5/18/2004 3:42:50 PM
    - Afghanistan: The "Good War?" - Tom Brosz - 5/18/2004 4:01:20 PM
  - Balance. - Bowser - 5/18/2004 3:22:22 PM
    - re: Balance. - Tom Brosz - 5/18/2004 3:41:02 PM
  - Author's agenda. - RobVG - 5/18/2004 3:09:44 PM
    - More Rockwell Articles - Perspective - 5/18/2004 3:21:13 PM

Ok, Lindy, what do YOU think that UFOs are? - David F Mayer - 5/16/2004 4:55:02 AM
- Reply - Lindy - 5/16/2004 5:30:54 PM
  - Anyone who DOES NOT consider Phil Klass as an "expert" really isn't worth my time. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 5/18/2004 1:54:19 PM
    - re: Anyone who DOES NOT consider Phil Klass as an "expert" really isn't worth my time. - Lindy - 5/18/2004 3:55:54 PM
- A bit unscientific isn't it. - Lee - 5/16/2004 6:15:49 AM
  - UFOs - Donald - 5/16/2004 2:42:51 PM
    - I never said they were. - Lee - 5/16/2004 9:21:12 PM
    - Here's a collection of quotes from distinguished people about UFO's - Juan - 5/16/2004 4:18:33 PM
      - Not impressed - Donald - 5/16/2004 4:31:36 PM
        
        The force is with them. - Juan - 5/16/2004 9:42:52 PM
        
        re: Yep -- quakin' in their boots . . . - D. Spires - 5/18/2004 1:45:52 AM
  - Competent investigators like Phil Klass have been looking into the evidence for decades, and nothing has ever been found out of the ordinary. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 5/16/2004 6:22:39 AM
    - They should be looked at on a case by case basis, not just lumped together. - Lee - 5/16/2004 6:36:18 AM
      - re: They are . . . (n/t) - D. Spires - 5/16/2004 2:55:29 PM
- David - Robert (as moderator) - 5/16/2004 5:12:10 AM
  - re: As I understand it... - Tom Brosz - 5/16/2004 5:51:40 AM
    - Well done, both Robert and Tom. (n/t) - Bowser - 5/16/2004 1:23:06 PM
      - I'll second that (n/t) - Fox - 5/17/2004 1:26:07 AM

Some good news for a change....In Kuwait. - Jacob Samorodin - 5/17/2004 5:00:31 PM
- Waiting for someone to say "We had nothing to do with this" (n/t) - RobVG - 5/17/2004 5:43:54 PM
  - What exactly did we have to do with it? - Bowser - 5/17/2004 7:52:33 PM
    - Here ya go. - RobVG - 5/17/2004 8:21:44 PM
      - All right. I'm trying to bear with you. - Bowser - 5/17/2004 8:33:35 PM
        
        Ok, Western culture. - RobVG - 5/17/2004 9:14:53 PM
        
        Do you think the US was the leader in women's rights? - Bowser - 5/17/2004 11:29:59 PM
        
        Do you wish to place a ring in our nose to be led around by the UN? - RobVG - 5/18/2004 3:43:19 AM
        
        And you're afraid of what? - Bowser - 5/18/2004 4:13:15 AM
        
        re: And you're afraid of what? - RobVG - 5/18/2004 1:44:28 PM
        
        And... - FrankC - 5/17/2004 9:55:56 PM
  - If Saddam had been allowed to keep Kuwait in 1991, there would have been no voting rights for any Kuwaitis. (n/t) - Jacob Samorodin - 5/17/2004 6:37:26 PM

Nothing like an avowed anti-Muslim general setting interrogation policy. - Bowser - 5/18/2004 5:30:08 AM

WSJ - What the one hand "gives", the other takes away. - Bowser - 5/18/2004 1:36:05 AM

How to insert HTML into your posts. - David F Mayer - 5/17/2004 8:36:30 PM
- Cut & paste works just fine for me. - Lee - 5/17/2004 11:17:46 PM

Ryongchon Explosion Occurred While Transporting Military Cargo? - RobVG - 5/17/2004 3:54:20 PM
- PIGPILE! - Bowser - 5/17/2004 7:54:45 PM
  - I like some EVIDENCE too. There isn't any, only innuendo. - David F Mayer - 5/17/2004 8:16:32 PM
    - Oh yeah? Prove it WASN'T some secret weapon! (Just kidding. I agree with you.) (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 5/17/2004 11:07:59 PM
- No 'Axis of Evil", no WMD programs, nothing to see here folks, move along... (n/t) - p - 5/17/2004 4:40:11 PM
- re: Ryongchon Explosion - Tom Brosz - 5/17/2004 4:25:15 PM
  - It was said on Fox that the cargo was a "warhead" - RobVG - 5/17/2004 4:48:07 PM
    - The statement was made by Van Hipp. (n/t) - RobVG - 5/17/2004 7:32:51 PM
    - The important thing is to make sure conjecture and facts are well-labeled here. And at least reasonable. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 5/17/2004 4:56:25 PM

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