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» in reply to
re: Pacifism, aggression and forgiveness
Tell it to Martin Luther King.
Mary Anne
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1/11/2004 9:08:39 PM
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It's a good month for it.
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Think Tank: U.S. Overstated Iraqi Threat
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Donald
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1/9/2004 3:31:14 AM
re: U.S. Overstated Iraqi Threat
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Tom Brosz
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1/9/2004 7:57:34 PM
Clinton and Iraq
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S
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1/9/2004 8:49:11 PM
Does that 'sacred right' trump our national safety?
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ebnelson
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1/13/2004 1:47:29 PM
It certainly doesn't threaten it
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S
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1/13/2004 9:43:31 PM
Ah. Mossad again.
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Tom Brosz
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1/14/2004 5:02:40 AM
Hello 911
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Mark Eby
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1/10/2004 4:47:07 AM
re: Hello 911
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Tom Brosz
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1/10/2004 9:13:41 PM
As Guilty As Davin Tom
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Mark Eby
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1/11/2004 9:45:35 PM
Great jingoistic propaganda!
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Davin L.
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1/10/2004 6:29:19 PM
YGTBK
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ebnelson
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1/13/2004 1:48:43 PM
P.S.
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Tom Brosz
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1/9/2004 9:11:28 PM
"Self-determination?" Are you serious??
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Tom Brosz
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1/9/2004 9:04:45 PM
re: And are you serious?
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Raoul
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1/9/2004 9:53:18 PM
You wrote: "International law doesn't care what's going on inside a country, as long as it doesn't interfere with other countries." My anwswer: Then International Law in its current form is immoral a…
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David F Mayer
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1/11/2004 3:26:12 PM
So you don't believe in national sovereignty?
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Mary Anne
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1/11/2004 5:49:44 PM
Yes, I really like being lectured on the cruelty of capital punishment by such gentle countries as Germany, which has always treated all minorities with respect.
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David F Mayer
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1/11/2004 5:56:30 PM
re: Send some time with them, it helps
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Raoul
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1/11/2004 7:09:26 PM
60 years ago? How about telling that to those leftists who talk like I personally wiped out the Indians with smallpox?
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Tom Brosz
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1/11/2004 8:48:55 PM
re: I'm a leftist but do I talk like that?
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Raoul
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1/11/2004 10:26:59 PM
re: I'm a leftist but do I talk like that?
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Tom Brosz
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1/12/2004 2:15:42 AM
There are a lot of people that like tunafish, too
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Davin L.
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1/12/2004 4:18:38 AM
Real leftists don't eat tuna
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Tom Brosz
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1/12/2004 5:54:38 AM
but your whole leftist thing is, um, a red herring
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Davin L.
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1/12/2004 6:37:08 AM
Uh...please note the subject line right under this one.
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Tom Brosz
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1/12/2004 7:26:09 AM
I see, so you think Mary Anne is 'that leftist'?
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Davin L.
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1/12/2004 4:03:23 PM
See you at Flame, jackass
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Mary Anne
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1/12/2004 3:05:49 PM
I'm sure the Germans likewise appreciate Americans scolding them about genocide, since we have an outstanding background with our Native nations.
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Mary Anne
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1/11/2004 6:17:09 PM
re: International law is IN-TER-NA-TIO-NAL !
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Raoul
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1/11/2004 3:46:39 PM
Bullshit. The International was created by despots for the purpose of preserving their tyrannies from interference.
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David F Mayer
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1/11/2004 5:54:25 PM
re: You can't help your case by being rude
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Raoul
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1/11/2004 7:21:59 PM
My apology for using expletives. They don't help my case.
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David F Mayer
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1/11/2004 11:10:26 PM
So why did NATO bombard Eastern Europe?
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Tom Brosz
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1/10/2004 12:29:00 AM
re: NATO is not UN
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Raoul
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1/10/2004 10:44:42 AM
re: And are you serious?
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McFly
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1/9/2004 10:29:38 PM
re: Not Pacifism, but Humiliation
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Raoul
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1/10/2004 10:54:29 AM
You seem to be overlooking...
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S
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1/9/2004 11:33:46 PM
Speaking of perspective...
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Fox
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1/11/2004 5:48:00 AM
re: You seem to be overlooking...
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McFly
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1/10/2004 11:08:03 PM
Footnote -- Jewish boycott of German goods
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S
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1/10/2004 9:02:48 PM
Sehr interessant - vielen Dank!
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Fox
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1/10/2004 11:49:53 PM
re: Footnote -- Jewish boycott of German goods
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McFly
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1/10/2004 11:32:00 PM
Pacifism, aggression and forgiveness
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Mary Anne
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1/11/2004 6:13:19 PM
re: Pacifism, aggression and forgiveness
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McFly
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1/12/2004 1:42:38 AM
re: Pacifism, aggression and forgiveness
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Tom Brosz
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1/11/2004 9:04:05 PM
Tell it to Martin Luther King.
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Mary Anne
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1/11/2004 9:08:39 PM
re: Tell it to Martin Luther King.
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Tom Brosz
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1/11/2004 9:22:12 PM
So let me get this straight: you think Hitler's rise to power was a *good* thing because he saved Western Europe from Stalin?
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Mary Anne
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1/11/2004 9:37:41 PM
re: get this straight
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Tom Brosz
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1/12/2004 2:05:40 AM
If you want your children to live in a world where ...
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Mary Anne
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1/12/2004 12:08:00 PM
Not "preferred." What works. They aren't always the same thing.
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Tom Brosz
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1/12/2004 10:27:52 PM
There's a real difference between the world as we'd like it to be and the world as it is
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Larry J
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1/12/2004 6:59:45 PM
re:write There's a real difference . . .
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Mary Anne
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1/13/2004 3:36:01 PM
Tom will choke if you stuff any more words into his mouth! How the heck did you draw that out of his post?
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McFly
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1/12/2004 1:27:20 AM
And I quote:
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Mary Anne
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1/12/2004 12:03:32 PM
You've stretched this one past the breaking point, MA...that's not like you
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McFly
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1/12/2004 2:27:04 PM
Hanging out here has had a very bad effect on me.
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Mary Anne
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1/12/2004 2:51:40 PM
ohh noo
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Betsy
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1/13/2004 3:27:16 AM
I know what you mean
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Tom Brosz
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1/13/2004 12:49:00 AM
Impersonal and polite
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SDAI-Tech1
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1/12/2004 4:19:54 PM
And you've got to admit that the use of the words "self-determination" in any reference to Saddam's Iraq is a total absurdity.
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McFly
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1/9/2004 10:35:23 PM
OK - then call it by its other name: "national sovereignty"
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Fox
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1/11/2004 5:52:02 AM
Nations have no rights: only people have rights
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David F Mayer
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1/11/2004 3:29:59 PM
re: Certainly Not!
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Raoul
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1/11/2004 7:33:56 PM
The idea that states have "rights" is one thing that separates European thinking from American.
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Tom Brosz
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1/11/2004 9:09:26 PM
re: Examples and Thomas Jefferson
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Raoul
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1/11/2004 10:37:34 PM
re: Thomas Jefferson
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Fox
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1/12/2004 1:30:51 AM
And by the way, Jefferson wasn't all that consistent either.
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Tom Brosz
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1/12/2004 2:25:48 AM
And how about Abraham Lincoln?
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Tom Brosz
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1/12/2004 2:20:06 AM
re: 2003-2004 isn't 1990-1991
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Raoul
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1/10/2004 10:56:24 AM
Powell on the the 'Think Tank' and other peanut gallery spectators:
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ebnelson
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1/9/2004 1:16:39 PM
re: Think Tank
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Tom Brosz
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1/9/2004 4:31:43 AM
the Bush administration clearly stated it was an imminent threat
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Greg
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1/9/2004 1:38:39 PM
That's precisely the point
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Donald
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1/9/2004 3:34:20 PM
re: Think Tank
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Donald
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1/9/2004 5:03:40 AM
Ouch. Report is 111 pages long.
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Tom Brosz
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1/9/2004 4:41:36 AM
Meanwhile: US withdraws Iraq weapons team
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Donald
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1/9/2004 3:51:00 AM
Powell Admits No Al Qaeda-Iraq Links
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Donald
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1/9/2004 4:07:08 AM
HabitableZone — be civil, or at least entertaining.