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Free-Energy Battery Inventor Killed at Airport? - Lindy - 12/7/2007 3:54:42 PM
- re: Free-Energy Battery Inventor Killed at Airport? - Hans - 12/9/2007 1:21:26 PM
- Burn abundant saltwater as fuel - Eric - 12/8/2007 5:47:18 PM
  - We've been over that one. - TB - 12/8/2007 6:48:33 PM
- I thought the Evil Death Ray was a nice touch. (n/t) - TB - 12/7/2007 9:20:53 PM
  - "Death Ray, fiddlesticks! It doesn't even slow them up!" (n/t) - Fox - 12/8/2007 2:36:31 AM
    - Argh! - TB - 12/8/2007 5:02:04 AM
      - The AC version always was buggy (n/t) - McFly - 12/8/2007 2:35:33 PM
    - More of a "minor inconvenience ray," really (n/t) - McFly - 12/8/2007 3:50:17 AM
- Google doesn't come up with much - Laurie Street - 12/7/2007 5:32:02 PM
  - If I read that "catalyst element" right - Tony - 12/7/2007 10:05:01 PM
- OT (n/t) - Tony - 12/7/2007 3:59:05 PM
  - What's up with you Tony? - Lindy - 12/7/2007 4:01:31 PM
    - Just dogging OT posts (n/t) - Tony - 12/7/2007 7:33:54 PM

Poll after the NIE - TB - 12/8/2007 6:06:26 PM
- John Bolton on the NIE - Bowser - 12/9/2007 6:45:55 AM
- Fool me once... (n/t) - RobVG - 12/8/2007 6:28:21 PM

Bush "fixes" mortgage problem - TB - 12/6/2007 12:32:15 AM
- I see it as politics as usual - Eri - 12/7/2007 1:36:53 AM
  - re: I see it as politics as usual - Lindy - 12/7/2007 2:03:54 AM
    - Oh my. - Eri - 12/7/2007 3:46:43 AM
      - re: Oh my. - Lindy - 12/7/2007 5:36:16 AM
        
        Lindy, I agree that it is predatory - TAFKASE - 12/7/2007 3:49:41 PM
        
        re: Lindy, I agree that it is predatory - Lindy - 12/7/2007 3:59:46 PM
        
        Good for you... - TAKFASE - 12/7/2007 4:11:17 PM
- Bush "fix" another illusion - Publius - 12/6/2007 11:20:01 PM
  - Hey Publius - still kicking! Good to see you. (n/t) - Laurie Street - 12/7/2007 5:34:19 PM
- nah... - TAFKASE - 12/6/2007 5:51:17 PM
  - Yeah - Robert - 12/6/2007 11:26:39 PM
    - the only sad part is... - TAFKASE - 12/7/2007 3:28:37 PM
      - Careful - Robert - 12/7/2007 5:10:14 PM
    - Part of the problem... - TB - 12/7/2007 12:32:20 AM
      - Yep - Robert - 12/7/2007 5:01:43 AM
      - Wells Fargo was my original lender - Eri - 12/7/2007 1:40:51 AM
        
        re: Wells Fargo was my original lender - TB - 12/7/2007 3:19:42 AM
        
        Every time you refinance, the salesman makes a commission. - TAFKASE - 12/7/2007 3:41:09 PM
        
        re: Every time you refinance, the salesman makes a commission. - REB - 12/7/2007 6:48:51 PM
        
        short answer: yes! (n/t) - Eri - 12/8/2007 5:21:06 AM
        
        No. In the long run, you will still be much better off. - TAFKASE - 12/7/2007 11:05:04 PM
        
        Same with me - Eri - 12/7/2007 3:48:57 AM
  - Bush did mention years ago... - Lindy - 12/6/2007 11:15:52 PM
  - Opps... It was redlining...Remember banks being told to take on more risky debtors in Redlined areas? (n/t) - TAFKASE - 12/6/2007 5:55:50 PM
    - The subprime market (new villan) was created to stop redlining (old villan) - TAFKASE - 12/6/2007 6:03:28 PM
- ...and here. - Jody - 12/6/2007 12:22:38 PM
- re: Bush "fixes" mortgage problem - azstrummer - 12/6/2007 3:20:39 AM
  - re: Bush "fixes" mortgage problem - TB - 12/6/2007 6:13:40 AM
    - While I agree, a lot of that stupidity has fuelled the country's growth over last 6 years. - Tony - 12/6/2007 3:49:12 PM
      - Don't panic - TB - 12/6/2007 5:42:38 PM
        
        It's not just subprime - Tony - 12/7/2007 3:38:22 PM
        
        BTW, you do know mortgage rates are going down across the board, right? - TB - 12/7/2007 9:44:47 PM
        
        Kinda irrelevant - Tony - 12/7/2007 10:02:01 PM
        
        Don't panic. - TB - 12/7/2007 9:33:43 PM
        
        it isn't these loans that will slow the economy... - TAFKASE - 12/7/2007 11:08:47 PM
        
        100 billion here, 200 billion there, pretty soon we're talking real money..... (n/t) - Tony - 12/7/2007 9:38:40 PM
  - Follow-up on "Flame". (n/t) - Bowser - 12/6/2007 4:22:57 AM
- I'm sure we haven't heard it all yet. Maybe won't. - Bowser - 12/6/2007 3:20:20 AM

Why sweat the primaries? - TB - 12/6/2007 12:04:11 AM
- Not that my vote counts for anything... - Laurie Street - 12/8/2007 2:47:29 AM
- Biden, Dodd, Clinton - Tony - 12/7/2007 3:29:10 PM
- I did not know this guy I 'picked' was even in the race!! - Jody - 12/7/2007 1:56:19 PM
- Consigned me to the Gravel pit - Robert - 12/7/2007 5:45:12 AM
  - This was better than the last one I did - Tony - 12/7/2007 3:31:20 PM
  - re: Consigned me to the Gravel pit - TB - 12/7/2007 8:27:59 AM
- 91% - Lindy - 12/7/2007 2:30:48 AM
- Yikes! - Eri - 12/7/2007 1:52:55 AM
- re: Why sweat the primaries? - TAFKASE - 12/6/2007 2:13:20 PM
  - Your despicably evil wife??? LOL!! - Jody - 12/6/2007 9:56:03 PM

Jumping the gun on negative economic predictions. - TB - 12/7/2007 9:42:08 PM
- The first trumpets a drop in jobless claims - Tony - 12/7/2007 9:59:39 PM
  - That number is a real statistic. - TB - 12/7/2007 11:34:32 PM

I am not a liar. I'm just incompetent. - Yeti - 12/5/2007 4:27:54 AM
- To be consistent - azstrummer - 12/5/2007 6:17:59 PM
  - Disagree - Yeti - 12/5/2007 6:35:02 PM
  - I don't agree - TB - 12/5/2007 6:33:56 PM
    - My contention - azstrummer - 12/6/2007 3:06:25 AM
      - re: My contention - Lindy - 12/6/2007 12:35:35 PM
      - re: My contention - TB - 12/6/2007 6:22:43 AM
        
        SLAP - Lindy - 12/6/2007 12:47:56 PM
      - Last I saw - Yeti - 12/6/2007 4:07:55 AM
- Go look up what's actually going on, then shoot off your mouth. - TB - 12/5/2007 4:56:43 AM
  - Guess you didnt see his presser yesterday - Tony - 12/5/2007 2:54:18 PM
    - Another bit of data - TB - 12/5/2007 6:28:28 PM
    - I did - Robert - 12/5/2007 5:18:20 PM
      - And today I watched Dana Perinno... - Robert - 12/7/2007 5:48:59 AM
        
        re: Perinno... - Yeti - 12/7/2007 4:25:36 PM
    - That's funny! (n/t) - Bowser - 12/5/2007 4:47:48 PM
  - Only one thing will solve this. - Lee - 12/5/2007 12:11:30 PM
    - True. - Adam Bomber - 12/5/2007 2:39:08 PM
  - Hey, would you like a crowbar? - Yeti - 12/5/2007 5:00:44 AM
    - In other words, you didn't know what you were talking about. - TB - 12/5/2007 5:10:30 AM
      - Think whatever you like. - Yeti - 12/5/2007 5:43:00 PM
        
        Interesting. - TB - 12/5/2007 5:55:02 PM
        
        Yup, you got it. - Yeti - 12/5/2007 6:21:06 PM

The stake through the heart of Bush's Iran plan, and other damage. - Bowser - 12/5/2007 9:15:49 PM
- Truly embarrassing - Donald - 12/6/2007 2:22:27 AM
- Truly embarrassing - Donald - 12/6/2007 2:22:25 AM
- Ah, yes, I remember that. - TB - 12/5/2007 9:56:04 PM
  - are you really saying that no Invade Iran screaming came from the right? - Tony - 12/6/2007 7:00:02 PM
    - That's two. - TB - 12/6/2007 8:40:43 PM
      - "It's more appealing now now that Iraq isn't delivering for the Left like it used to. " - Lindy - 12/7/2007 2:09:14 AM
        
        re: Iraq isn't delivering for the Left like it used to - TB - 12/7/2007 3:26:14 AM
        
        "Casualties dropped again in November" - Lindy - 12/7/2007 5:43:58 AM
      - No, that was 3. - Tony - 12/6/2007 8:56:37 PM
        
        re: No, that was 3. - TB - 12/6/2007 11:21:37 PM
        
        Where did I say it was a call to war? - Tony - 12/7/2007 3:33:55 PM
  - "It's an amusing example of a faction holding down both sides of the argument all by themselves. " - Lindy - 12/6/2007 12:40:40 PM
    - "No it's not." Yes it is. - TB - 12/6/2007 5:48:12 PM
      - re: "No it's not." Yes it is. - Lindy - 12/6/2007 11:59:37 PM
      - And keep in mind... - TB - 12/6/2007 5:57:02 PM
        
        I would agree with your last couple of sentences - Lindy - 12/7/2007 12:44:53 AM
    - If anyone here is "amusing", it's you Tom (n/t) - Lindy - 12/6/2007 12:43:38 PM
  - Justification - azstrummer - 12/6/2007 3:38:22 AM
  - "The past is prologue", as the man said. - Bowser - 12/6/2007 3:34:29 AM

What happend to that thread about evil Republicans Bashing Obama - TAFKASE - 12/6/2007 2:04:14 PM
- That one's a non-story. - TB - 12/6/2007 5:28:49 PM

Let me get this straight - Laurie Street - 12/4/2007 9:39:03 PM
- The Shrub is trying to have it either way. - Eri - 12/5/2007 1:37:59 AM
- re: Let me get this straight - gbaikie - 12/4/2007 10:22:17 PM
- It really is simple. - Bowser - 12/4/2007 10:13:24 PM
  - Are we going to revisit "all they want is electricity" again? - TB - 12/4/2007 10:28:54 PM
    - Nope. Done deal. According to the NIE that's true. - Bowser - 12/5/2007 12:20:58 AM
      - According to the NIE? - TB - 12/5/2007 2:35:31 AM
        
        It's not rocket science. Not even bottle rocket science. - Bowser - 12/5/2007 4:31:26 PM
        
        "I just want to roast my camel" - Lindy - 12/6/2007 12:55:53 PM
        
        re: It's not rocket science. - TB - 12/5/2007 5:51:33 PM
        
        "The NIE declared that Iran did have a nuclear weapons program until 2003." - Lee - 12/5/2007 12:16:23 PM

"Moonbeams" now shining in OffTopic (n/t) - Fox, moderating - 12/5/2007 11:40:23 PM

Dick Cheney, that sit-down comedian, is at it again. - Bowser - 12/5/2007 9:38:42 PM
- On Don Imus's first broadcast this week for his new network - Eri - 12/5/2007 10:10:12 PM

more on "Environmentalists" behaving badly - TAFKASE - 12/5/2007 6:51:28 PM
- And the latest from the Concerned People at Bali - TB - 12/5/2007 9:34:42 PM

Reagan's "Star Wars" program still alive and producing results - TAFKASE - 12/5/2007 2:37:05 PM
- In the meantime, - - - - Bowser - 12/5/2007 4:46:28 PM
  - I didn't think you would like it... - TAFKASE - 12/5/2007 5:17:36 PM
  - Thinking about it - TB - 12/5/2007 5:05:39 PM

Clinton Attack's Obama on a Kindergarten essay - TAFKASE - 12/4/2007 2:36:40 PM
- I almost wish Hillary would win... - Eri - 12/5/2007 1:42:00 AM
  - re: I almost wish Hillary would win... - TAFKASE - 12/5/2007 2:40:47 PM
- And now, the CYA attempt... - TB - 12/4/2007 5:23:33 PM
  - It was an unfortunate move, but Hillary remained calm throughout... (n/t) - McFly - 12/4/2007 6:20:23 PM
  - Just remember to smack any upity minority children who would be so bold. - Driving Miss Hillary - 12/4/2007 5:31:12 PM

"Aldran" thread (re: renaming Earth's moon) moved to Off Topic - Fox, moderating - 12/5/2007 12:40:39 AM

"Clinton calm in hostage crisis" - TB - 12/1/2007 5:23:39 PM
- Get over it. - TAFKASE - 12/3/2007 3:34:50 PM
- As I recall, you weren't all that calm, Tom. (n/t) - alcaray - 12/2/2007 9:23:12 AM
  - When? This is the first post I made on the subject. (n/t) - TB - 12/2/2007 8:58:32 PM
    - You said: - alcaray - 12/3/2007 9:36:11 PM
      - Are you sure you're not mixing this up with something else? - TB - 12/3/2007 11:54:04 PM
        
        You used the word "calm". I responded to it in the same way and context that you use that word. - alcaray - 12/4/2007 12:05:50 AM
        
        You've lost me completely. Maybe somebody else can explain this. - TB - 12/4/2007 4:53:42 AM
        
        I speak alcaray - SDAI-Tech1 - 12/4/2007 7:00:58 AM
        
        That almost makes sense. Can I sell this silver bullet you left on E-Bay? (n/t) - TB - 12/4/2007 4:55:08 PM
        
        Be my guest. ;-) (n/t) - SDAI-Tech1 - 12/4/2007 9:20:22 PM
- You're right - azstrummer - 12/1/2007 11:18:15 PM

U.S. report contradicts Bush on Iran nuclear program - McFly - 12/3/2007 9:39:42 PM
- Don't worry, if Bush does nothing, then the Isreali's will handle it. - TAFKASE - 12/4/2007 2:50:05 PM
- Careful. - TB - 12/3/2007 11:06:31 PM
  - re: Careful. - Robert - 12/4/2007 4:54:55 AM
    - re: Careful. - TB - 12/4/2007 5:21:13 AM
      - And one more question... - TB - 12/4/2007 5:23:55 AM
        
        Beats me (n/t) - Robert - 12/4/2007 4:06:26 PM
  - It's simple. Bush is backing down. - Bowser - 12/4/2007 12:07:37 AM
    - You might be right on that one. - TB - 12/4/2007 4:41:38 AM
      - Also note that Iran seems to be withdrawing it's minions from Iraq - TAFKASE - 12/4/2007 2:56:25 PM

US says it has right to kidnap British citizens - Eric - 12/2/2007 5:15:20 PM
- It sounds to me like "Kidnap" is not what occured. - TAFKASE - 12/3/2007 4:12:39 PM
- Britain didn't seem too upset when Iran did it. - Lee - 12/3/2007 12:04:49 AM
- Gee whiz, didn't we fight a war about this? - Mary Anne - 12/2/2007 9:15:43 PM
- "America, a.k.a. Bush" - TB - 12/2/2007 8:57:43 PM
- Why not try them first? - RobVG - 12/2/2007 7:01:22 PM
  - Good point. - RobVG - 12/4/2007 6:30:59 AM
  - That opens a big can of diplomatic worms. - TAFKASE - 12/3/2007 4:01:36 PM
- The US government obviously has not thought this through. - Eri - 12/2/2007 5:39:18 PM
  - Psst - Lindy - 12/2/2007 11:45:33 PM

"Wonder what the poor people are doing today?" - TB - 12/4/2007 6:17:56 AM

The ideal price of gasoline - gbaikie - 12/3/2007 6:18:00 AM
- Chevez will up the price now that Term Limits have been re-enforced. - TAFKASE - 12/3/2007 3:43:16 PM
  - re: Chevez will up the price now that Term Limits have been re-enforced. - gbaikie - 12/4/2007 12:31:19 AM

Iraqis learn the hard way the US military never leaves unless thrown out. - Bowser - 12/3/2007 3:04:31 AM
- "Imperialism" - TB - 12/3/2007 4:21:01 AM
  - re: "Imperialism"-wrong again - Andrew - 12/4/2007 12:25:09 AM
  - Some questions - TB - 12/3/2007 5:05:27 AM
- It's strategic just in case the unthinkable happens. (n/t) - Eri - 12/3/2007 3:24:51 AM

Venezuela referendum update - TB - 12/2/2007 10:40:39 PM
- Venezuelans reject Chavez power grab - TB - 12/3/2007 7:46:07 PM

Meanwhile, back in France... - TB - 12/3/2007 5:23:31 AM
- The spotlight's on savagery. - SDAI-Tech1 - 12/3/2007 6:59:22 AM

"US calls for Iraqi reconciliation." - Bowser - 12/3/2007 2:23:37 AM

What the Democratic and Republican debates apparently had in common - TB - 11/30/2007 5:26:24 AM
- "Both had a lot of Democratic activist ringers as questioners." - azstrummer - 11/30/2007 7:45:37 PM
  - As usual, whether it's true or not is irrelevant. - TB - 11/30/2007 10:36:26 PM
    - define "activist ringer" - Robert - 12/1/2007 1:11:32 AM
      - re: define "activist ringer" - TB - 12/1/2007 3:35:20 AM
        
        You beat me to it - Robert - 12/1/2007 4:20:30 AM
        
        re: You beat me to it - TB - 12/1/2007 4:58:13 AM
        
        Interesting philosophical question - Robert - 12/1/2007 6:15:38 AM
        
        re: Interesting philosophical question - TB - 12/1/2007 7:34:52 AM
        
        re: Interesting philosophical question - Robert - 12/2/2007 12:46:09 AM
        
        Just one more comment... - TB - 12/2/2007 1:59:05 AM

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