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Why I'm voting for Bush - Tom Brosz - 8/29/2004 11:03:44 PM
- re: Why I'm voting for Bush - Tony - 8/31/2004 4:16:20 PM
- In other words.... - Tony - 8/30/2004 1:06:48 PM
  - No. He has attributes Kerry does not. There's a difference. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 8/30/2004 6:22:45 PM
    - re: Non of which make him a okay president. (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 8/30/2004 7:50:35 PM
- re: Why I'm not voting for Bush - Chris Vancil - 8/30/2004 10:39:02 AM
- Well said. (n/t) - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/29/2004 11:37:35 PM

News flash for Democrats: Bush officially no longer an idiot. - Tom Brosz - 8/30/2004 1:12:07 AM
- Only if puppets aren't idiots. - Bowser - 8/30/2004 1:31:30 AM
  - re: Only if puppets aren't idiots. - Chris Vancil - 8/30/2004 10:48:20 AM
    - re: lies? You wanta talk lies? What about Christmas in Cambodia? - Scott Evil - 8/30/2004 1:34:40 PM
      - re: Yes, Kerry was a real hot head ~30 ago when he went to Cambodia. To bad he got the month wrong because it's real important now...to GWB and his pets... (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 8/30/2004 7:43:25 PM
        
        After All Christmas Is So Easy To Forget ;-) (n/t) - Mark Eby - 8/30/2004 10:44:13 PM
        
        re:It's confuse not forget...been in the chaos of war, Mark? (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 8/30/2004 11:34:55 PM
        
        Right...Then lets embellish the story more: "The Khemer Rouge were singing "silent night" in perfect German." - Scott Ev...Opps John Kerry - 8/31/2004 1:16:04 PM
        
        re: You play into Rove's hands remember such crap as...McCain was a stoolie for his captors in the Hanoi Hilton; - Chris Vancil - 8/31/2004 2:17:57 PM
  - When You Guys Get Your Signals Straight Maybe You Can March In The Right Direction - Mark Eby - 8/30/2004 1:58:39 AM
    - Kindly explain that. - Bowser - 8/30/2004 12:59:34 PM
      - Sure - Mark Eby - 8/30/2004 10:28:42 PM
    - Try getting you own story sriaght first. (Strawmen) - Chris Vancil - 8/30/2004 5:12:29 AM
      - Did You Bother To Read Tom's Post? - Mark Eby - 8/30/2004 10:34:30 PM
        
        Let's pause and enjoy the reality for a moment. - alcaray - 8/31/2004 4:04:16 PM
        
        re: Did You Bother To Read Tom's Post? - Chris Vancil - 8/30/2004 11:44:15 PM

Mexico's Pemex reports huge new oil finds - jms - 8/31/2004 3:09:32 PM

135 mile race across Iraq - Amazing! - REB - 8/31/2004 2:54:32 PM

Bush Waffles On Steel. - Chris Vancil - 8/30/2004 5:20:12 AM
- I guess if you can't defend Kerry's flip-flops, you have to call everything a waffle (n/t) - ebnelson - 8/30/2004 2:14:27 PM
  - re:Don't much like the shoe on the other foot do you? Bush has plenty of Flip Flopping to show... - Chris Vancil - 8/30/2004 8:11:56 PM
    - Are the dems confused between leadership and flip-flop? Apparently. (n/t) - ebnelson - 8/31/2004 3:38:54 AM
      - re: Or repubs are confused between Thinking and Indecision having so little of the former these 3.5 years..."I flip of Kerry because Bush is a Flop." (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 8/31/2004 1:53:00 PM
- re: Have you looked at the price of steel lately... - Scott Evil - 8/30/2004 1:48:03 PM

"I may not know much about art, but I know enough about garbage" - Daniel L - 8/30/2004 1:20:37 PM
- That is the truth about "Postmodernism": In all of its manifestations, it is totally indistinguishable from garbage. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 8/30/2004 6:08:42 PM
  - Bumper sticker I saw: "Think about honking, if you love conceptual art." - alcaray - 8/30/2004 9:41:00 PM
    - LOL - check this out though - Daniel - 8/30/2004 9:55:37 PM
      - oh dear .. - Daniel - 8/30/2004 10:07:08 PM
      - trying that link again - - Daniel - 8/30/2004 9:57:36 PM
- LOL reminds me - R.L. - 8/30/2004 2:11:57 PM
  - why not just wear a billboard or advertising Tshirt - Daniel - 8/30/2004 2:21:53 PM
    - r???? was that a flame? - R.L. - 8/30/2004 5:51:15 PM
      - Sorry my monitor at home gets flaky - R.L. - 8/31/2004 4:47:16 AM
        
        ok (n/t) - D. - 8/31/2004 6:31:55 AM
      - not at all - Daniel - 8/30/2004 6:47:46 PM
        
        ok, RL? (n/t) - D - 8/30/2004 8:54:55 PM
- With some of what passes for 'modern art', it can be hard to tell - Larry J - 8/30/2004 2:03:07 PM
  - yes, time flies - the 'postmodernist experience' - Daniel - 8/30/2004 2:14:11 PM

975 - Donald - 8/31/2004 3:34:21 AM

A vote for Bush in 2004 Sets up the election of John McCain in 2008 - Scott Evil - 8/30/2004 1:27:52 PM
- Hillary's not so bad. She might be a pretty good President in fact - m - 8/31/2004 1:02:58 AM
- Don't be so certain. We need to get through the 2004 election first. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 8/30/2004 4:42:06 PM
- You've got your coattails reversed - Robert - 8/30/2004 3:32:48 PM
- in 2008 , McCain will be 72 - Tony - 8/30/2004 3:17:50 PM
- Former McCain supporter. Not so sure now and he's my senator. - Art Martin - 8/30/2004 2:40:36 PM
  - Could become VP nominee. - Bowser - 8/30/2004 2:42:53 PM

The "plan for after the war" myth. - Tom Brosz - 8/29/2004 10:48:28 PM
- Trying to rewrite history. Kinda blatant. - Bowser - 8/30/2004 4:17:27 AM
  - You Go Way Off Topic - Mark Eby - 8/30/2004 11:05:59 PM
  - re: Trying to rewrite history. Kinda blatant. - Chris Vancil - 8/30/2004 11:17:17 AM
  - You didn't understand the point at all. Fine with me. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 8/30/2004 6:18:22 AM
    - I can understand why you'd want to rewrite that history. (n/t) - Bowser - 8/30/2004 2:38:09 PM
- re: The "plan for after the war" myth. - gbaikie - 8/29/2004 11:53:51 PM
  - re: You don't know what you are talking about... - Chris Vancil - 8/30/2004 9:00:16 PM
    - re: You don't know what you are talking about... - gbaikie - 8/31/2004 12:33:49 AM
  - Ironically, we are now... - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/30/2004 12:35:07 AM

Captain Relieved After Carrier Crash - jms - 8/30/2004 9:17:12 PM
- As Bush should have been relieved after WTC. (n/t) - Bowser - 8/31/2004 12:24:34 AM

Ah, a dose of reality for these heady days. Or, "Bad news from America". - Bowser - 8/31/2004 12:23:56 AM

Good For France! - Mark Eby - 8/30/2004 10:42:38 PM

Good news from Iraq, part 9 - Tom Brosz - 8/30/2004 6:21:51 AM
- The Arab News is a well-know American puppet publication, right? - David F Mayer - 8/30/2004 10:11:26 PM
- Hopefully we'll here some of this good news during the convention. - Scott Evil - 8/30/2004 2:39:44 PM

Psycho hose beasts in full cry - Tom Brosz - 8/30/2004 6:27:15 AM
- re: Advice for the psycho hose beasts... - Tom Brosz - 8/30/2004 4:43:24 PM
  - Conservative media? *What* conservative media? - Mary Anne - 8/30/2004 5:31:55 PM
    - Media - Tom Brosz - 8/30/2004 6:18:20 PM
  - interesting site - Daniel - 8/30/2004 5:07:01 PM
- Well, there's yer Flat-Earthers, yer Creationists, yer "man didn't land on the moon ers" - Bowser - 8/30/2004 12:53:43 PM
  - Definition of a "Compassionate Conservative" - David F Mayer - 8/30/2004 10:04:58 PM
  - Yawn, but the psycho-left, as you demonstrate, is in control of the dems. We don't take the wacks seriously. - ebnelson - 8/30/2004 2:15:58 PM
    - re: Yawn, but the psycho-left, as you demonstrate, is in control of the dems. We don't take the wacks seriously. - McFly - 8/30/2004 2:31:37 PM

Liberal columnist on Kerry - FrankC - 8/27/2004 6:01:30 PM
- re: Liberal columnist on Kerry - Chris Vancil - 8/27/2004 9:31:01 PM
  - I'd love to talk about Kerry's record in the Senate... - Larry J - 8/27/2004 10:23:33 PM
    - What you don't get here.... - Art Martin - 8/27/2004 11:02:45 PM
      - They keep calling Bush an idiot - Larry J - 8/29/2004 8:06:34 PM
        
        re: They keep calling Bush an idiot - Art Martin - 8/30/2004 5:13:18 AM
      - Where Were You When Clinton Was President? - Mark Eby - 8/28/2004 3:37:53 AM
        
        I was often a detractor - Art Martin - 8/28/2004 5:59:35 PM
        
        You Forget Your Own Words - Mark Eby - 8/28/2004 6:15:25 PM
        
        Not a bad strategy but...... - Art Martin - 8/29/2004 5:31:08 PM
        
        I Wrote In McCain Because I Never Wanted Bush's Tax Cuts - Mark Eby - 8/30/2004 2:15:34 AM
        
        re:Well write in McCain again. (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 8/30/2004 9:17:54 PM
        
        I Wrote (n/t) - (anonymous) - 8/30/2004 2:12:17 AM
        
        I Wrote (n/t) - (anonymous) - 8/30/2004 2:12:14 AM
        
        I Wrote (n/t) - (anonymous) - 8/30/2004 2:12:11 AM
      - re: What you don't get here.... - gbaikie - 8/28/2004 12:54:55 AM
        
        Well seems you just proved my point - Art Martin - 8/28/2004 5:47:28 PM
        
        re: Well seems you just proved my point - gbaikie - 8/29/2004 1:26:31 AM
        
        A well-balanced reply. Thank you. - Art Martin - 8/29/2004 5:35:16 PM
      - Bush Derangement Syndrome. At least you're honest about it. - Tom Brosz - 8/28/2004 12:34:46 AM
    - re: Yes, I'd love to talk about Bush's record in the Whitehouse - Chrsi Vancil - 8/27/2004 10:44:29 PM
      - Unfortunately Most Demcocrats Would Rather Slander Than Talk Intelligently - Mark Eby - 8/28/2004 3:52:46 AM
        
        re: Right that is why the Swift Boaters for Lies take Republican Money and get thier pokes in before the RNC... - Chris Vancil - 8/28/2004 4:05:57 AM
        
        It Never Was About Oil - Mark Eby - 8/28/2004 2:17:44 PM
        
        re: It has always been about power/oil - Chris Vancil - 8/28/2004 7:50:38 PM
        
        We Won't Be Controlling The Oil Chris - Mark Eby - 8/28/2004 9:44:59 PM
        
        re: We Won't Be Controlling The Oil Chris - Chris Vancil - 8/28/2004 10:09:05 PM
        
        I'll Tell It To You In 2 Years - Mark Eby - 8/28/2004 10:21:16 PM
        
        re: I'll Tell It To You In 2 Years - Chris Vancil - 8/29/2004 6:40:35 PM
        
        Sorry, but that's just nuts. - Tom Brosz - 8/28/2004 5:12:11 AM
        
        re: Sorry, but that's just nuts. - Chris Vancil - 8/28/2004 10:43:25 AM
        
        It's Simple The Democrat's Started Down This Path Now They Whine About It - Mark Eby - 8/28/2004 4:43:16 AM

Observers see eerie parallels in attacks on Kerry, McCain and Richards - Chris Vancil - 8/30/2004 8:01:21 PM

John Kerry's Voting Record On Disabilities (No. Not Bush) - Chris Vancil - 8/28/2004 8:38:10 AM
- In a 19 year Senate career, I'd expect more than that - Larry J - 8/30/2004 1:47:10 PM
  - re:Very weak Larry, try looking up... There is lots he has done...now show us what Bush did as governor that makes him a good POTUS... (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 8/30/2004 7:54:55 PM
- re: Here you go Larry attack away... (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 8/30/2004 5:30:00 AM

Spying for Israel - Raoul - 8/28/2004 9:58:38 AM
- Looks like Israel needed targeting information for the nuclear facilities in Iran. - David F Mayer - 8/29/2004 9:04:42 AM
  - You know, Dave... - E.P. Grondine - 8/30/2004 2:20:44 AM
    - What does that have to do with anything? - David F Mayer - 8/30/2004 7:38:23 PM

A little of Kerry's history in congress... - Chris Vancil - 8/30/2004 5:55:48 AM
- Look at kerry trying to jump on John McCains bandwagon. - Scott Evil - 8/30/2004 1:29:48 PM
  - re: Jumping on Bandwagons? You're absurd! Ask John McCains If John Kerry is a friend of his... (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 8/30/2004 7:30:19 PM

Their more public, and grown-up, role has not dampened the women's high spirits. - Bowser - 8/30/2004 3:56:27 PM
- Good grief - McFly - 8/30/2004 6:24:05 PM
- I have but one question for the Kerry girls.. - FrankC - 8/30/2004 4:05:34 PM
  - LOLOL!!! Very good, Frank! (n/t) - Mary Anne - 8/30/2004 5:50:33 PM

He DOES have a clue - "'I understand there's still people looking for work here in America,' " - Bowser - 8/30/2004 5:24:07 PM

An interesting take on the Sistani-Sadr situation - Tom Brosz - 8/28/2004 6:25:16 AM
- Sooner or later, Sadr must be killed. He will undoubted try a third time to overthrow the new Iraqi Government. And a fourth time, etc, until he is killed. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 8/29/2004 9:06:59 AM
  - Killing messiahs is a subtle business and requires some care - Gary - 8/29/2004 5:48:48 PM
    - You have a good point, however, it may be wisest just to knock him off straightaway and be rid of him. - David F Mayer - 8/30/2004 4:39:30 PM
- Very interesting - Gary - 8/28/2004 6:21:09 PM

and here I thought I was joking... - E.P. Grondine - 8/30/2004 3:34:27 AM
- and of course, there's always those "key" endorsements... - E.P. Grondine - 8/30/2004 3:42:44 AM
  - re: Dope smoking Democrats for Nader! - Scott Evil - 8/30/2004 1:56:24 PM
    - re: Dope smoking Republicans for Nader! - E.P. Grondine - 8/30/2004 3:45:03 PM
  - re: and of course, there's always those "key" endorsements... - gbaikie - 8/30/2004 3:54:02 AM
    - My apologies! How stupid of me to fail to notice big labor (n/t)... (n/t) - E.P. Grondine - 8/30/2004 4:02:04 AM
  - and those hip show biz endorsements so critical to swing states like Florida - E.P. Grondine - 8/30/2004 3:49:17 AM
    - and the well oiled party machinery... - E.P. Grondine - 8/30/2004 4:00:03 AM
      - and the fund raising strategy.. - E.P. Grondine - 8/30/2004 4:18:04 AM

The French reap the harvest of their land - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/29/2004 5:30:54 AM
- amazing to wite so much yet with only 2 truths - tony - 8/29/2004 1:46:20 PM
  - I'm not going to say too much here. - SDT1 - 8/29/2004 11:25:56 PM
    - Thus aiding the successful rescue of Berg, Johnson, Phillipinos, Japanese, Italians and others. - Tony - 8/30/2004 2:44:31 PM
    - You really are an idiot, aren't you? - R.L. - 8/30/2004 1:55:37 PM
- France can continue their legacy of appeasement at their peril - ebnelson - 8/29/2004 1:00:43 PM
- Enoch Powell predicted "rivers of blood" in Europe over this issue. - Lee - 8/29/2004 9:14:41 AM
  - No, the French already have blood on their hands. - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/29/2004 11:06:42 AM
    - We werent able to help other hostages, what the hell makes you think we know where these guys are? - R.L. - 8/29/2004 11:12:29 PM
      - See the reply to Tony. (n/t) - SDT1 - 8/29/2004 11:40:12 PM
        
        I did- it demonstrated your ignorance very well. Thank you (n/t) - R.L. - 8/30/2004 1:59:45 PM
    - "If wishes were horses then beggars would ride." - Mary Anne - 8/29/2004 4:42:01 PM
      - thanks for that - Daniel - 8/29/2004 5:14:07 PM
- Ah I see, so you get smug satisfaction at the fact that innocents are likely to be killed? - R.L. - 8/29/2004 8:43:08 AM
  - Appeasement is the social mental disorder being discussed - ebnelson - 8/29/2004 11:17:02 PM
  - If you had an IQ capable of arguing the issue responsibly I might listen to a thought your oxygen starved mind might conjure up. (n/t) - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/29/2004 10:27:26 AM
    - Intellect Is Not The Issue - Mark Eby - 8/30/2004 2:05:26 AM
      - where the heck did that come from? - R.L. - 8/30/2004 1:43:31 PM
  - i agree - Daniel L - 8/29/2004 10:16:05 AM
    - Ah, more valuable input. (n/t) - SD1 - 8/29/2004 10:29:02 AM
      - um - clarifying: - Daniel - 8/29/2004 11:01:03 AM
        
        Glad to hear it. - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/29/2004 11:10:38 AM
      - yeah! - ta (n/t) - Daniel - 8/29/2004 10:31:29 AM

8.8 billion $ - Raoul - 8/28/2004 10:38:39 AM
- Just another example of - Buck Galaxy - 8/28/2004 10:40:46 PM
  - I love it when foreigners show such interest in US politics. (n/t) - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/29/2004 2:38:56 AM
    - You're cute when you're condescending (n/t) - Fox - 8/29/2004 10:46:31 PM
      - Thanks. I must be cute almost all the time then ;-) (n/t) - SDT1 - 8/29/2004 11:43:15 PM
    - If US politics didn't have such an impact on the world, they wouldn't worry about it so much. - Mary Anne - 8/29/2004 6:19:30 PM
      - Ah yes...the US oppresses the world. - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/29/2004 11:11:54 PM
        
        And here I thought that one good, off-the-cuff dismissive wiseass remark deserved another. - Mary Anne - 8/30/2004 3:13:31 AM
        
        That's ok. - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/30/2004 3:39:41 AM
        
        Length, combined with the subject line. (n/t) - Mary Anne - 8/30/2004 4:03:14 AM
        
        Ok. It's too bad though. I though this particular rant was a pretty good one. (n/t) - SDAI-Tech1 - 8/30/2004 5:48:06 AM
        
        Words. Many words:) (n/t) - gbaikie - 8/30/2004 4:02:37 AM
        
        Yes. Having read "many words" with similar subject headings by the same author. (n/t) - Mary Anne - 8/30/2004 4:06:52 AM

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