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War Protest in Poe Park . . . - D. Spires - 10/28/2002 11:48:37 AM

Choices.. Choices.. Choices.. - Arvin Wallace - 10/28/2002 11:25:19 AM

Many Afghans Return, Then Flee . . . - D. Spires - 10/28/2002 11:22:27 AM

Four Detainees Released, New Group Brought to Cuba . . . - D. Spires - 10/28/2002 11:11:05 AM

Deputy Secretary Surprises Fort Campbell Troops . . . - D. Spires - 10/28/2002 11:07:14 AM

Mondale getting bad rap - Tom Brosz - 10/28/2002 9:59:37 AM
- When Mondale ran for President - ebnelson - 10/28/2002 10:15:55 AM

Doctor: 116 Hostages in Moscow Killed by Gas - Bowser - 10/27/2002 5:44:00 PM
- Re: Debate.... - SM - 10/28/2002 9:10:24 AM
- 116 Hostages in Moscow Killed by Gas - Tom Brosz - 10/27/2002 8:23:56 PM
  - "Harmless" gas. - Bowser - 10/27/2002 8:11:59 AM

Moscow Hostage Crisis Over....Low Casualty Rate, Apparently - ebnelson - 10/25/2002 3:40:30 PM
- I really wish CNN and other news organizations - Matt Burley - 10/26/2002 3:58:00 PM
  - Re:Islamists? - Raoul Lannoy - 10/26/2002 6:23:17 PM
    - Yes, the Islamist influence in the Chechen terrorist campaign is very well established! - Matt Burley - 10/26/2002 7:19:38 PM
      - Re: And yet.... - Raoul - 10/26/2002 10:00:59 AM
        
        Well, let's take a closer look at the leader of this particular band of Chechen terrorists - Matt Burley - 10/26/2002 10:40:13 AM
    - Tell your idea to the Palestinians. - ebnelson - 10/26/2002 6:31:53 PM
      - Re: the Palestinians. - Raoul Lannoy - 10/26/2002 8:25:30 AM
  - I agree - Scott - 10/26/2002 9:10:17 AM
- Why does the media still refer to those murderous cutthroats as 'guerrillas'? - Jacob Samorodin - 10/26/2002 3:44:42 PM
  - Re: 'Cause they're a bunch of apes . . . - D. Spires - 10/26/2002 10:51:58 AM
  - Amazing more wern't killed. They apparently mined the building, yet there was no large fire... - Scott - 10/26/2002 9:14:01 AM
- Re: 67 hostages dead, some because of the gas (n/t) (n/t) - Raoul Lannoy - 10/26/2002 10:57:42 AM
  - Cripes, what kind of gas did they use? - Tom Brosz - 10/26/2002 11:01:04 AM
    - Stupid recruit grabbed the wrong case - Lee - 10/27/2002 8:28:17 PM
    - Re: An enclosed environment . . . - D. Spires - 10/26/2002 3:46:09 PM
- Re: Moscow Hostage Crisis Over....Low Casualty Rate, Apparently - Raoul Lannoy - 10/26/2002 9:01:20 AM

In Moscow - Raoul Lannoy - 10/27/2002 5:36:46 PM
- We posted concurrently. - Bowser - 10/27/2002 6:16:38 PM
  - One can't helput wonder.. - FrankC - 10/27/2002 7:36:31 PM
    - And therein lies a bunch of conservative silliness. - Bowser - 10/27/2002 8:10:54 PM
      - Yes a presumption - FrankC - 10/27/2002 10:25:21 AM
        
        Your presumption - FrankC - 10/27/2002 3:47:06 PM
        
        Well, then I WILL presume - - - - Bowser - 10/27/2002 12:56:47 PM
    - You would realize that reno and clinton were in charge....Waco. § (n/t) - ebnelson - 10/27/2002 2:53:36 PM
    - I see a big difference between the US and Russia in this regard - Matt Burley - 10/27/2002 11:25:59 AM
  - Re: BZ gas? - Raoul Lannoy - 10/27/2002 7:20:41 PM
- Whatever the gas was... - Scott - 10/27/2002 5:54:52 PM

US seeks Iraq decision 'in days' - Bowser - 10/27/2002 3:53:48 PM
- I would love to play poker against you. (n/t) - ebnelson - 10/27/2002 6:43:04 PM
- before November 5? - FrankC - 10/27/2002 5:55:49 PM
  - What are you talking about? - Bowser - 10/27/2002 8:19:46 AM
    - The chips - FrankC - 10/27/2002 10:48:44 AM
- What nonsense. US military action is still weeks away - Matt Burley - 10/27/2002 11:06:00 AM
- Frank... - SDAI-Tech1 - 10/27/2002 8:29:00 AM

The DC Snipers are really Bush Sr.'s fault: - ebnelson - 10/25/2002 9:18:05 AM
- Blame the Five percenters...A branch of the Nation of Islam... - Scott - 10/25/2002 10:20:54 AM
  - He did command everyone to call him "god". - ebnelson - 10/26/2002 3:02:37 PM
  - From their website...Notice Teaching #7 - Scott - 10/25/2002 10:23:20 AM
    - Sure, the original people of earth were from Africa, but not "black" - Matt Burley - 10/26/2002 4:49:33 PM
      - Actually, they probably were black. - Tom Brosz - 10/26/2002 10:31:58 AM
        
        Several environmental factors caused light skin, not clothing - Lee - 10/26/2002 3:38:20 PM
        
        Disagree - Tom Brosz - 10/26/2002 4:56:45 PM
        
        The African plains can be harsh - Lee - 10/26/2002 6:21:35 PM
        
        More oversimplification - Fox - 10/27/2002 4:02:08 PM
        
        So that would explain why the early Great Civilizations were all agrarian. - Mary Anne - 10/27/2002 3:22:59 PM
        
        Mary Anne's right--civilization begins with agriculture. - Tom Brosz - 10/27/2002 8:21:30 AM
        
        Re: The African plains can be harsh - Tom Brosz - 10/27/2002 8:34:10 AM
        
        I agree - but here's a thought - Matt Burley - 10/26/2002 11:49:06 AM
        
        Monkey nature - Tom Brosz - 10/26/2002 1:39:47 PM
    - This makes their "theology" a heresy toevery monotheistic religion, including Islam - ebnelson - 10/26/2002 3:04:34 PM
    - If the black man is god, then I'm 100% atheist. (n/t) (n/t) - Lee - 10/25/2002 3:12:30 PM
      - Re: If the WHITE man is god, then I'm 100% atheist. (n/t) - FrankC - 10/25/2002 4:22:45 PM
        
        If any MAN is god, then I'm 100% atheist. (n/t) (n/t) - Lindy - 10/27/2002 5:29:44 PM
        
        Aggh! Mispelled Cthulhu! - Tom Brosz - 10/26/2002 10:51:33 AM
        
        Tom, when it comes to drugs - just say no. n/t (n/t) - SDAI-Tech1 - 10/26/2002 11:08:44 AM
        
        Let's all become Minions of Cthuhu, and solve the whole "God looks like me" problem - Tom Brosz - 10/26/2002 10:45:28 AM
        
        A sure sign of the end of the world. - Lee - 10/26/2002 3:51:34 PM
        
        With examples like Clinton and Ted Kennedy, I'd have to agree. (n/t) (n/t) - Lee - 10/25/2002 5:14:20 PM

U.S. Cannot Ignore Ballistic Missile Threat . . . - D. Spires - 10/26/2002 4:48:18 PM

Missiles Fired at Kandahar Base; No Casualties . . . - D. Spires - 10/26/2002 4:44:22 PM

Good Relations With Locals Helping Troops Find Weapons . . . - D. Spires - 10/26/2002 4:30:11 PM

Sniper Suspect's Military Service Details Released . . . - D. Spires - 10/26/2002 4:26:53 PM

Rumsfeld Explains Role of Defense Group Analyzing Intel . . . - D. Spires - 10/26/2002 4:20:53 PM

Rumsfeld: America Wouldn't Move on Iraq Alone . . . - D. Spires - 10/26/2002 4:15:18 PM

Combat Veterans Recount Grit, Valor, Air Support in Defeating Terror Troops . . . - D. Spires - 10/26/2002 4:11:19 PM

Motives - SDAI-Tech1 - 10/25/2002 8:29:26 AM
- Re: Motives - Tom Brosz - 10/25/2002 10:52:51 AM
  - Excrement has an origin... - SDAI-Tech1 - 10/25/2002 11:20:27 AM
    - Re: Excrement - Tom Brosz - 10/25/2002 11:47:39 AM
      - Leprechauns...I blame all my bad luck on Leprechauns. - Scott - 10/26/2002 9:21:27 AM
        
        Leprechauns? You know about the leprechuans? Who told you? (n/t)s. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 10/26/2002 10:52:50 AM
      - You missed the point entirely... - SDAI-Tech1 - 10/25/2002 12:12:10 PM
        
        Existence of chaos does not negate the possibility of order - Tom Brosz - 10/25/2002 6:50:09 PM
        
        Death is an unfortunate part of order - Scott - 10/26/2002 9:34:15 AM
        
        Re: Death is an unfortunate part of order - Tom Brosz - 10/26/2002 10:55:40 AM
        
        Whew! Caught a really good typo before I posted... - Tom Brosz - 10/26/2002 10:57:10 AM
    - Re: Risks and our place here.. - Raoul Lannoy - 10/25/2002 11:43:30 AM

Large container ship severely listing in the port of Seattle. - RobVG - 10/26/2002 9:16:14 AM
- Re: The two incidences might be related . . . - D. Spires - 10/26/2002 10:54:36 AM

Plane crash in Minnesota kills 8 - Paul Wellstone may have been on board - Larry J - 10/25/2002 5:29:29 PM
- What're the odds? - Bowser - 10/25/2002 5:59:53 PM
  - Look at what side makes politics out of this terrible accident - Scott - 10/25/2002 7:09:31 PM
    - Me thinks not too many peeps understand the spellin of E-Y-E or the personal pronoun,...first person. Have you built any 13 level pyramids lately??? n/t - €sunblok€ - 10/25/2002 9:55:13 AM
      - I would give much for the ability to understand your posts... - Tom Brosz - 10/25/2002 10:55:36 AM
        
        Try harder Tom... ;-) - SDAI-Tech1 - 10/25/2002 11:34:51 AM
        
        I just had a premotion about it, 13 sniper shootings no more....no less. - €sunblok€ 10/20/2002 1:33:13 PM - €sunblok€ - 10/25/2002 5:41:27 PM
  - Times of loss deserve some respect. - ebnelson - 10/25/2002 7:03:46 PM
    - Re: Ed, I really don't need this . . . - D. Spires - 10/25/2002 11:49:36 AM
  - Letting your reflexive leftism get the best of you again. Think first. (n/t) (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 10/25/2002 6:17:21 PM
    - What're the odds? n/t (n/t) - Bowser - 10/25/2002 6:23:04 PM
      - 100%. § (n/t) - ebnelson - 10/25/2002 6:55:34 PM
      - What're the odds that you would think? Not very good, apparently. n/t (n/t) - Larry J - 10/25/2002 6:51:42 PM
        
        I thought you and I agreed. - Bowser - 10/25/2002 7:01:02 PM
        
        You are the one who insinuated that Ashcroft had Cardahan killed - Larry J - 10/25/2002 7:59:37 PM
        
        That the left wing extremists had to step out with their hatefulness and baseless spew - ebnelson - 10/25/2002 8:06:08 AM
        
        Didn,t Davey Crockette ride a horse to work, or is that Walt Disney stuff !!! - €sunblok€ - 10/25/2002 10:07:32 AM
  - Ditto Ed + Larry (n/t) (n/t) - Tony - 10/25/2002 6:13:07 PM
  - MODERATORS!! - Lindy - 10/25/2002 6:12:09 PM
    - Maybe because we can ban someone for calling a spade a spade... - Scott - 10/25/2002 7:14:57 PM
    - Make another of your slanderous disgusting phony accusation - ebnelson - 10/25/2002 6:20:43 PM
      - Are you threatening me?? - Lindy - 10/25/2002 6:40:13 PM
        
        I am a warm fuzzball. - ebnelson - 10/25/2002 6:55:01 PM
    - Re: You see, THIS would belong on the Community board . . . (n/t) (n/t) - D. Spires - 10/25/2002 11:38:00 AM
  - That's a new low, even for you. - Larry J - 10/25/2002 6:03:31 PM
    - New Lows? - Lindy - 10/25/2002 6:08:04 PM
      - Methods of Operations - Lindy - 10/25/2002 6:25:09 PM
- Wellstone's family was onboard and listed as dead:CNN - ebnelson - 10/25/2002 5:53:16 PM
- Maybe SDAI-Tech1 is on to something. - Lee - 10/25/2002 5:48:18 PM
  - I prefer not to go there... - Larry J - 10/25/2002 5:50:03 PM
    - Of course. Only bowser thinks people should be shot for their poitical beliefs. Not even Lindy thinks that.§ (n/t) - ebnelson - 10/25/2002 6:11:33 PM
    - I'm not making light of it - Lee - 10/25/2002 5:54:21 PM
      - The plane went down in light snow and reduced visibility - Larry J - 10/25/2002 6:01:15 PM
        
        Fox News said that the ceiling was only around 300-500 feet. (n/t) (n/t) - Lee - 10/25/2002 6:52:52 PM
        
        AOPA's airport server is down at the moment... - Larry J - 10/25/2002 9:09:49 AM
        
        With your mechanical ineptitude, you might have a car crash because of a flat tire !! n/t - €sunblok€ - 10/25/2002 10:16:58 AM
- Wellstone Dead: CNN § (n/t) - ebnelson - 10/25/2002 5:45:29 PM
- He was on the Manifest: CNN - ebnelson - 10/25/2002 5:40:58 PM
- Paul Wellstone may have been on board - Tom Brosz - 10/25/2002 5:39:07 PM
- It appears Wellstone may have been killed - Larry J - 10/25/2002 5:37:45 PM
- Better delete this before Lindy sees it...(n/t) (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 10/25/2002 5:32:47 PM
  - Death in the Air - Lindy - 10/25/2002 5:54:10 PM
    - Jumping the gun - Mary Anne - 10/25/2002 7:02:44 PM
    - Nota wack-job - Tony - 10/25/2002 6:19:29 PM
    - Dang...too late. - Tom Brosz - 10/25/2002 6:08:48 PM
    - Link is Slow, Here's the Text - Lindy - 10/25/2002 6:01:32 PM
      - Slow - Tom Brosz - 10/25/2002 6:11:28 PM
        
        Funny Tom, funny......... (n/t) - Lindy n/t - 10/25/2002 6:16:44 PM
    - Re: Death in the Air - p - 10/25/2002 5:59:11 PM
      - Well at least his wife can't be appointed to take his place.. - Lee - 10/25/2002 6:05:12 PM
        
        I apologize, my partisan Mr. Hyde snuck past me. - Lee - 10/25/2002 6:42:40 PM
        
        That should read.... - Lee - 10/25/2002 6:50:25 PM
        
        Please tell me you haven't reproduced n/t (n/t) - Mary Anne - 10/25/2002 6:30:49 PM
        
        What Ed said - Tony - 10/25/2002 6:21:36 PM

Muslim commentary on sniper - p - 10/25/2002 4:15:41 PM
- You make no sense - Tony - 10/25/2002 4:20:23 PM
  - Islamic leaders, and Nation of Islam leaders owe it to the larger community - ebnelson - 10/25/2002 4:38:59 PM
    - OK, what about what Tony said? n/t (n/t) - alcaray - 10/25/2002 4:53:08 PM
  - Re: You make no sense - p - 10/25/2002 4:30:17 PM
    - OK, I'll rephrase the first question - Tony - 10/25/2002 4:38:48 PM
      - Probably not - FrankC - 10/25/2002 5:21:04 PM
        
        Indonesia is an overwhelmingly Muslim nation - Mary Anne - 10/25/2002 5:54:27 PM
        
        But in Saudi, at 100% muslim (at least professing) - ebnelson - 10/25/2002 7:56:30 PM
        
        Re: 100% does not include their huge Filipino coolie workforce . . . (n/t) (n/t) - D. Spires - 10/25/2002 10:40:01 AM
      - Re: OK, I'll rephrase the first question - p - 10/25/2002 5:14:16 PM
        
        The nuns again - Mary Anne - 10/25/2002 5:36:08 PM
        
        Re: The nuns again - p - 10/25/2002 5:46:43 PM
        
        Safe - Mary Anne - 10/25/2002 6:23:34 PM
        
        Re: Safe - p - 10/25/2002 7:44:21 PM
        
        Reaching out is a great idea. - ebnelson - 10/25/2002 5:43:41 PM
      - When extremists murder in the name of Islam, is it asking a lot for the clerics to condemn them? - Larry J - 10/25/2002 5:14:01 PM
        
        Re: When extremists murder in the name of Islam, is it asking a lot for the clerics to condemn them? - p - 10/25/2002 5:22:18 PM
        
        Very good point. - ebnelson - 10/25/2002 5:29:00 PM
      - Re: Since you seem to miss the point . . . - D. Spires - 10/25/2002 10:34:14 AM

"What are the odds?" A little perspective and a few facts - Tom Brosz - 10/25/2002 7:40:56 PM

Minnesota law provides for replacement candidates - ebnelson - 10/25/2002 7:36:58 PM

Democrats complain voter fraud crackdown costing them votes - Tom Brosz - 10/24/2002 3:39:11 PM
- You ain’t seen nothin’ yet! - Bowser - 10/24/2002 4:32:25 PM
  - Yeah, only Republican presidents have ever gone on the campaign trail. Geez. (n/t) (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 10/24/2002 6:17:21 PM
- Here's an interesting "crackdown" - alcaray - 10/24/2002 4:01:29 PM
  - Good work! - Tom Brosz - 10/24/2002 4:23:59 PM
    - Re: Relevance . . . ? - D. Spires - 10/24/2002 5:08:28 PM
      - Tom's challenge covered the last 50 years, for some reason - alcaray - 10/24/2002 5:17:26 PM
        
        Re: I know . . . - D. Spires - 10/24/2002 5:43:33 PM
    - Well - alcaray - 10/24/2002 4:41:53 PM
      - Re: Well - Tom Brosz - 10/24/2002 6:00:00 PM
        
        Without the BS - alcaray - 10/24/2002 6:55:09 PM
        
        Re: Without the paperwork - Tom Brosz - 10/24/2002 7:40:48 PM
        
        Re: Without the paperwork - D. Spires - 10/24/2002 7:52:50 PM
        
        Exactly, Dan - alcaray - 10/24/2002 8:13:26 AM
        
        Re: Without the BS - Larry J - 10/24/2002 6:58:36 PM
        
        Looking to history - alcaray - 10/24/2002 7:27:34 PM
        
        Interesting that he had to go back over 100 years to find his examples... - Larry J - 10/24/2002 7:38:14 PM
        
        You asked about history, for crying out loud - alcaray - 10/24/2002 7:55:31 PM
        
        The history of minorities being denied their voting rights... - Larry J - 10/24/2002 8:11:56 AM
- The way the Dems see it - FrankC - 10/24/2002 3:55:52 PM
  - Dems Win Mid Term Elections! - Lindy - 10/24/2002 4:58:20 PM
    - Re: Dems Win Mid Term Elections! Big deal. - Tom Brosz - 10/24/2002 6:28:14 PM
    - So now yoiu have a time machine. - ebnelson - 10/24/2002 5:52:38 PM
- Florida!! Florida 2000 was Republican voter fraud. n/t (n/t) - Bowser - 10/24/2002 3:53:59 PM
  - Re: Florida!! - Tom Brosz - 10/25/2002 7:14:36 PM

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