tom wrote: "As with the earlier argument on alternatives for handling Iraq and Saddam other than war, I suspect the main reason for this is that you don't have an answer. Yet you seem to demand that Bush come up with one."

LOL! This is bullshit Tom! Iraq was contained, there was no NECESSARY and REQUIRED action. you only demand that there be one. I'm not going to play into that hand. Look- bush WENT TO WAR its up to him to defend and justify his policy choice- especially now that everything he claimed required war turned out to be false (NO WMD, no Terrorists, no demonstrable intent to do harm to the US or allies, etc).

Look, why do I have to come up with an answer to a non-problem? Give it up. If thats all you got left, you need more.

tom wrote: "Simple question: What kind of evidence would have been sufficient in your opinion to warrant an invasion of Iraq? Just theoretical examples are fine"

Why should I play this game, Mr Wolf? We were here before... If you don't like my intransigence, you shoudn't have used this technique on me before.

But I'll bite- maybe this time you are actually being honest and not disingenuous.

I would support invasion if:
1) if a clear intention, plot and preparation to employ WMD against America was discovered and unequivocably demonstrated, or foiled in the process.
2) if a clear intention, plot and preparation to attack America was discovered and unequivocably demonstrated, or foiled in the process.
3) If Iraq invaded another soverign country, yet again, regardless of any use of WMD or not in that attack.

tom wrote: " Obviously your bar is a lot higher than Bush's, but it is not accurate for you to say that Bush and his administration had no bar at all."

never claimed that, find me a post where I did? I just claimed it was so absurdly low that NOTHING THEY CLAIMED in the way of WMD, terrorist ties and threats to the united states never panned out. nothing That says something vey profound.

"P.S. although you make a big deal about not finding anything yet with 140,000 troops on the ground, there are only about 1,400 of them in the Iraq Survey Group assigned to the task of searching for such things, or about 120 square miles of Iraq per person. I don't know how many people were in the earlier 75th Exploitation Task Force, which was largely examining targeted sites. "

Yeah Yeah Yeah. Okay. We'll see.

Davin L.