Perception, perception, perception

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Perception, perception, perception

FrankC — 7/14/2003 4:52:21 PM (archived)

The big difference in this bruhaha and the Clinton use of the terms sexual relations and "is" is the fact that that bruhaha over semantics started after Clinton admitted he lied.

It is natural I suppose that those who are in conflict with the Bush presidency ask the questions that you pose but I wonder...

Would Condi agree that she "blamed" Tenet? I don't recall her using that word.

Would Tenet agree that he is "taking a fall"?

Would the CIA agree that they "backtracked"?

If one accepts the Brit's version of the truth, wouldn't the statement be technically true but admittedly incorrect since we relied on different information?

Would Rummy or the UK government agree that he "blamed" the Brits?

If Bush admits he lied. your questions will become a great retrospective.

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Questions, questions, questions - Tony - 7/14/2003 2:37:03 PM
- re: Questions, questions, questions - Tom Brosz - 7/14/2003 5:57:29 PM
  - BTW, did Rumsfeld manage to keep a straight face when saying .... - Tony - 7/14/2003 6:50:38 PM
    - Not sure I follow you... - Tom Brosz - 7/14/2003 7:20:41 PM
      - No - Tony - 7/14/2003 7:27:58 PM
        
        Ah. Okay, I understand your point now. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 7/14/2003 8:25:54 PM
  - re: Questions, questions, questions - Tony - 7/14/2003 6:31:23 PM
    - re: Questions, questions, questions - Tom Brosz - 7/14/2003 7:09:30 PM
      - Spin, spin, spin - Robert - 7/14/2003 9:32:24 PM
        
        re: Spin, spin, spin - Tom Brosz - 7/15/2003 3:34:58 AM
        
        Blatant misdirection, Tom - Davin L. - 7/15/2003 3:19:53 PM
        
        re: Spin, spin, spin - Robert - 7/15/2003 4:20:31 AM
        
        Logical flaws - Tom Brosz - 7/15/2003 5:20:30 AM
        
        To take a step back... - Robert - 7/15/2003 5:13:04 PM
        
        Tell the Left, the media, and the Democratic Party to take a step back. - Tom Brosz - 7/15/2003 6:05:44 PM
        
        Again, a misdirection of the debate - Davin L. - 7/15/2003 7:31:40 PM
        
        Misdirection - Tom Brosz - 7/15/2003 8:32:13 PM
        
        re: Misdirection - Dr. L. Nessie - 7/16/2003 12:31:23 AM
        
        You do a remarkable job of avoiding direct questions - Tom Brosz - 7/16/2003 2:08:46 AM
        
        Your metacomments don't do anything for you - Davin L. - 7/16/2003 2:46:31 AM
        
        At least now we have something to work with - Tom Brosz - 7/16/2003 4:43:16 AM
        
        re: At least now we have something to work with - Davin L. - 7/16/2003 3:00:13 PM
        
        re: Tell the Left, the media, and the Democratic Party to take a step back. - Robert - 7/15/2003 7:17:03 PM
        
        That's an overly simplistic argument... - Larry J - 7/15/2003 7:45:42 PM
        
        'The buck stops here'--period. - Robert - 7/15/2003 9:07:27 PM
        
        Unintended consequences - Larry J - 7/15/2003 9:47:49 PM
        
        re: Unintended consequences - Robert - 7/15/2003 11:25:22 PM
        
        It's foolish to demand certainty in an uncertain world - Larry J - 7/16/2003 2:37:15 PM
        
        So, let's slap him up the side of his head, then......... - Lindy - 7/17/2003 3:56:12 AM
        
        Oh pleeeeeease - Robert - 7/16/2003 4:34:11 PM
        
        Time will tell - Larry J - 7/16/2003 7:59:41 PM
        
        I saw the interview - alcaray - 7/16/2003 10:28:11 PM
        
        re: I saw the interview - Tom Brosz - 7/16/2003 10:55:41 PM
        
        I would like to think that it is critical info that they would pass on to us, if they expect us to give their product any credence - alcaray - 7/16/2003 11:14:11 PM
        
        "Absolutely wrong?" - Tom Brosz - 7/16/2003 6:51:09 PM
        
        Asymptotic curves - Robert - 7/17/2003 1:44:48 AM
        
        Plausibility - Tom Brosz - 7/17/2003 5:06:45 AM
        
        Is it not "absolutely wrong"... - alcaray - 7/16/2003 10:22:41 PM
        
        Hold on there, sparky - Davin L. - 7/16/2003 7:25:37 PM
        
        re: Hold on there, sparky - Tom Brosz - 7/16/2003 11:06:02 PM
        
        An important point - Davin L. - 7/15/2003 10:29:52 PM
        
        Support for the Saudis is a lot less after 9-11 - Larry J - 7/16/2003 2:17:26 PM
        
        A mistake is not a lie - Tom Brosz - 7/15/2003 7:34:53 PM
        
        'The buck stops here'--period. - Robert - 7/15/2003 8:58:59 PM
        
        re: A mistake is not a lie - Davin L. - 7/15/2003 7:39:37 PM
        
        re: A mistake is not a lie - Tom Brosz - 7/15/2003 8:14:19 PM
        
        re: A mistake is not a lie - Davin L. - 7/16/2003 12:41:19 AM
        
        Clarification - Tom Brosz - 7/15/2003 8:51:13 PM
        
        Several logical flaws - Davin l. - 7/15/2003 3:40:17 PM
        
        re: Several logical flaws - Tom Brosz - 7/15/2003 6:30:53 PM
        
        persistent on 2 points. - Davin L. - 7/15/2003 7:38:19 PM
        
        Dr L. Nessie rides/swims again... - Davin L. - 7/15/2003 7:26:12 PM
        
        Sorry. Real life doesn't work that way. - Tom Brosz - 7/15/2003 8:03:16 PM
        
        Sorry: Cheese-ball hand-waves don't work on me - Davin L. - 7/15/2003 8:39:19 PM
        
        Flabbergasting... - Tom Brosz - 7/15/2003 9:01:35 PM
        
        BTW, these little metacomments of yours don't serve to either demonstrate what I am saying as wrong, nor support any case of your own... (n/t) - Davin L. - 7/16/2003 12:43:31 AM
        
        Amusing, Dances-With-Yetis... Shall we instead talk about the wether? - Davin L. - 7/15/2003 9:29:37 PM
        
        re: Amusing, Dances-With-Yetis... Shall we instead talk about the wether? - Tom Brosz - 7/16/2003 12:36:42 AM
        
        Seriously speaking.... - Davin L. - 7/16/2003 1:10:06 AM
        
        re: Seriously speaking.... - Tom Brosz - 7/16/2003 1:21:35 AM
        
        Hold on there, sparky - Davin L. - 7/16/2003 2:05:34 AM
- Perception, perception, perception - FrankC - 7/14/2003 4:52:21 PM
  - Depends on your definition of "blame" - Tony - 7/14/2003 6:20:03 PM

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