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Tourture continues at our United States of America - GITMO Facility - Eric - 3/3/2006 5:46:58 PM

Interesting column - "Polygamy will become legal." - Bowser - 3/2/2006 9:36:14 AM
- Polygamy causes overpopulation. - Scott Evil - 3/3/2006 5:34:05 PM
- The Penalty for Polygamy Is Too Horrible to Contemplate - David F Mayer - 3/2/2006 5:28:41 PM
  - If you have only one wife you can't stand.... - Lindy - 3/3/2006 12:10:20 AM
    - Who says I can't stand my wife? - David F Mayer - 3/3/2006 1:20:31 PM
    - Divorce...or just Diversity? ;-) (n/t) - SDAI-Tech1 - 3/3/2006 1:56:07 AM
- I can't stand Tucker Carlson.... - Lindy - 3/2/2006 2:45:31 PM
  - He says nice things about you. - Bowser - 3/2/2006 4:16:33 PM

Patriot Act: Pay too much on your credit card balance and you could raise the alarm with Homeland Security [payment freeze] - Eric - 3/3/2006 5:23:27 PM

Civil war declared to exist in Iraq - "Bush denies Iraq headed for civil war" - Bowser - 3/3/2006 4:46:46 PM

Canned hunting - Cheney style - Laurie Street - 2/15/2006 4:37:58 PM
- re: Canned hunting - Cheney style - esco - 3/3/2006 1:32:59 PM
  - Are you a fan of canned hunting of exotic animals? Or what was that about? (n/t) - alcaray - 3/3/2006 4:29:40 PM
- Kinda like fishing in the family acquarium (n/t) - alcaray - 2/16/2006 12:13:07 AM
  - Huntin'!! Sportsmen, bigawd. Yer NRA at work. Tracking, patience. Even chance. - Bowser - 2/16/2006 2:19:04 AM
- Oh my GOD! Cheny was shooting at a Zebra? (n/t) - A. Leftleaner - 2/15/2006 9:36:26 PM
  - Oh its even worse than I thought!!! They were releasing Al Queda prisoners and hunting them!!! - A. Leftleaner - 2/15/2006 10:08:30 PM
- Cheney Shooting Update - Jack Herer - 2/15/2006 5:59:17 PM
  - Experiment - Tom Brosz - 2/16/2006 1:28:18 AM
  - One hopes not. And - light birdshot, 28 gauge gun, 90 feet doesn't equal a pellet in the heart. - Bowser - 2/15/2006 6:36:05 PM
    - 90 feet is the distance from 1st to second base on a baseball diamond. - Scott Evil - 2/15/2006 9:25:47 PM
      - BS - Cheney shot him, didn't club him with a baseball bat. - Bowser - 2/15/2006 10:40:48 PM
        
        You should propose an experiment at one of your favorite leftist blogs!!! - Scott Evil - 2/15/2006 10:47:29 PM
        
        re: You volunteering as the target? (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 2/16/2006 10:14:32 AM
      - Read up on "s h o t g u n", "b i r d s h o t" "f u l l c h o k e" - Bowser - 2/15/2006 10:39:28 PM
        
        what was the barrel length? - Scott Evil - 2/15/2006 10:45:28 PM
      - 28 ga - Laurie Street - 2/15/2006 10:37:39 PM
        
        You really should go hunting sometime... - Scott Evil - 2/15/2006 10:44:17 PM
        
        re: You really should go hunting sometime... - Laurie Street - 2/16/2006 6:02:39 PM
        
        Isn't it you with the liberal wife? - Lindy - 2/16/2006 2:06:15 AM
        
        Looks as if it might just barely, almost, be possible. - Bowser - 2/15/2006 10:49:31 PM
        
        yeah. I know. - Scott Evil - 2/15/2006 10:52:57 PM
    - Some info on shot patterns etc - Laurie Street - 2/15/2006 7:00:42 PM
      - Aproximately 150 to 200 pellets lodged in his body - Jack Herer - 2/15/2006 8:24:52 PM
    - Read the facts please, before you post - R.L. - 2/15/2006 6:40:29 PM
      - Blinded by the light. - Bowser - 2/15/2006 7:55:00 PM
      - re: Read the facts please, before you post - Laurie Street - 2/15/2006 7:22:59 PM
        
        Oops - delay in posting delivery, sorry (n/t) - LS - 2/15/2006 7:26:01 PM
      - re: Read the facts please, before you post - Laurie Street - 2/15/2006 7:19:39 PM
- At least the third documented slaughter - Helps one to understand PETA - Bowser - 2/15/2006 5:13:37 PM

The crisis in Africa - REB - 3/3/2006 2:56:00 PM

air hostess causes panic - Daniel - 3/2/2006 1:25:15 PM
- Something about Las Vegas - Robert - 3/2/2006 4:42:52 PM
  - The worst turbulence I've experienced... - Larry J - 3/3/2006 2:02:43 PM
  - re turbulence - daniel - 3/2/2006 6:03:35 PM
    - re: calm - nick hoffman - 3/2/2006 10:07:31 PM
      - looking out the window and seeing the wings 'flapping' isn't reassuring either (n/t) - Daniel - 3/3/2006 1:29:14 AM
    - A good pilot... - SDAI-Tech1 - 3/2/2006 10:03:59 PM
      - ah yes .. the vortices again .. - Daniel - 3/3/2006 1:31:59 AM

Another absolutely blatant Bush lie of some consequence. - Bowser - 3/1/2006 11:56:59 PM
- re: The brains God gave geese - Fox - 3/2/2006 4:02:38 AM
- re: lie of some consequence. - Tom Brosz - 3/2/2006 2:02:22 AM
  - You are right, as far as it goes. - Tony - 3/2/2006 4:00:36 AM
    - re: as far as it goes. - Tom Brosz - 3/2/2006 6:30:41 AM
      - If the AP had any balls???? - Tony - 3/3/2006 1:55:20 PM
      - and the part about Bush knowing the difference? (n/t) - alcaray - 3/2/2006 9:52:41 PM
  - Bravo!!! Worthy of Clinton. - Bowser - 3/2/2006 2:31:03 AM
    - Didn't think you'd follow that. - Tom Brosz - 3/2/2006 2:46:19 AM
      - And the US doesn't torture terrorist suspects. (n/t) - Bowser - 3/2/2006 5:14:53 AM
- Quote from the article - Laurie Street - 3/2/2006 12:13:56 AM
  - Let's say ya got your Mark I ten y/o kid. Bright kid. - Bowser - 3/2/2006 12:20:13 AM

Israel Kills Another Rejectionist Scumbag - David F Mayer - 3/1/2006 5:20:32 PM
- you mean, a top terrorist leader - Daniel - 3/2/2006 3:00:45 PM
  - I stand corrected (n/t) - DFM - 3/3/2006 1:21:27 PM

Harry Browne, Libertarian candidate, dies - Bowser - 3/3/2006 3:07:24 AM
- Still got his bumper sticker on my car from the old days... (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 3/3/2006 6:52:52 AM

Playing with Fisk - gbaikie - 3/2/2006 8:36:51 AM
- Here's the actual interview.... - et - 3/2/2006 6:36:55 PM
  - Fisk - Tom Brosz - 3/2/2006 7:59:27 PM
    - Whatever Tom... - et - 3/2/2006 11:10:11 PM
      - Whatever. - Tom Brosz - 3/3/2006 2:50:11 AM
        
        Yep. NOTHIN'! (n/t) - et - 3/3/2006 3:16:48 AM
- Like it or not. - Bowser - 3/2/2006 9:23:50 AM
- re: Playing with Fisk - gbaikie - 3/2/2006 9:11:10 AM
  - "Occupational Authority" - Lindy - 3/2/2006 2:48:53 PM

Bill & Hillary Clinton Split on Ports Deal - David F Mayer - 3/2/2006 3:56:58 PM
- Maybe we should also ask... - Donald - 3/2/2006 4:07:42 PM
  - re: Maybe we should also ask... - McFly - 3/2/2006 6:35:34 PM

Conservatives Happier - Democrats Depressed - SDAI-Tech1 - 2/28/2006 10:20:12 PM
- Content liberal - Lindy - 3/1/2006 4:53:43 AM
- I laughed till I cried (n/t) - Robert - 3/1/2006 1:13:29 AM
  - ROFCOL? (n/t) - Laurie Street - 3/1/2006 1:54:43 AM
    - ROFCOLALOLACOLALOLACOLALOLACOLALOLACOL... - Robert - 3/1/2006 3:25:29 AM
      - For crying out loud, Robert! (n/t) - SDG - 3/2/2006 5:00:21 PM
      - Channeling the Kinks, Robert? (n/t) - Laurie Street - 3/1/2006 5:18:19 AM
        
        Sounds more like he's working them out... :) (n/t) - et - 3/1/2006 6:56:38 AM
      - re:Easy for you to say. But what about the children? (n/t) - A. Leftleaner - 3/1/2006 3:37:45 AM
- The question is... - FrankC - 3/1/2006 12:29:23 AM
- that's why Democrats want the economy to be in a "State of Malaise" - Scott Evil - 3/1/2006 12:04:06 AM
- re: Conservatives Happier - Democrats Depressed - Tom Brosz - 2/28/2006 10:41:14 PM
  - that was because Clinton seemed to be a happy Democrat. - Scott Evil - 3/1/2006 12:22:18 AM
    - re: that was because Clinton seemed to be a happy Democrat. - REB - 3/1/2006 2:47:35 PM
      - "It is kind of weird seeing him and George H Bush being buddy buddy" - Lindy - 3/1/2006 6:19:58 PM
  - That's... - SDAI-Tech1 - 2/28/2006 11:14:55 PM

Postwar Iraq Chaos Blamed on Poor Planning - Donald - 2/28/2006 5:01:46 AM
- Don't worry. We'll learn from our mistakes before the Iranian Invasion. - Scott Evil - 3/1/2006 12:01:41 AM
  - Like you learned from Afghanistan? (n/t) - Laurie Street - 3/1/2006 5:26:40 AM
- Now there's a news flash! (n/t) - Buck Galaxy - 2/28/2006 6:36:48 PM
  - It is to our neocons!! - Bowser - 2/28/2006 9:00:06 PM
    - re: It is to our neocons!! - REB - 2/28/2006 9:37:55 PM
      - When Saddam was gassing people Cheney, Rumsfeld were HELPING!! (n/t) - Bowser - 3/1/2006 2:48:38 AM
        
        Only in your crazy little world. - REB - 3/1/2006 1:11:00 PM
        
        So are you saying... - Laurie Street - 3/1/2006 8:48:06 PM
        
        Nope - REB - 3/1/2006 9:55:26 PM
        
        Removing Saddam - Laurie Street - 3/1/2006 11:38:53 PM
        
        re: Removing Saddam - REB - 3/2/2006 1:24:32 PM
        
        Never mind that Saddam's atrocities were never touted as justification for invasion (n/t) - Laurie Street - 3/1/2006 11:41:33 PM
        
        Its enough justification for me. (n/t) - REB - 3/2/2006 4:24:53 AM
        
        It's like trying to reason with a cat, Bowser. (n/t) - Laurie Street - 3/1/2006 5:21:57 AM
- Meanwhile: 2,295 - Donald - 2/28/2006 5:06:14 AM

Coming to their senses - 34%+ for Bush, 10%+ for Cheney. - Bowser - 2/28/2006 6:52:31 AM
- re: Coming to their senses - Tom Brosz - 2/28/2006 3:29:43 PM
  - Prediction: correct - dtb - 2/28/2006 6:06:56 PM
    - re: You are a little full of yourself. - Scott Evil - 2/28/2006 6:57:38 PM
      - Clarifying my prediction -- about HZ, not politics - dtb - 2/28/2006 8:47:10 PM
        
        re: Well jeeze... go out on a limb sometime... - Scott Evil - 2/28/2006 11:49:56 PM
        
        Whoop de doo. - SDAI-Tech1 - 2/28/2006 9:48:51 PM
        
        Bush's support has wained (Sp?)... - Scott Evil - 2/28/2006 11:53:36 PM
        
        re: Clarifying my prediction -- about HZ, not politics - REB - 2/28/2006 9:33:26 PM
      - Predicting the future of politics is near impossible. - REB - 2/28/2006 7:37:44 PM
        
        I really want to agree, but can't. - Scott Evil - 2/28/2006 11:36:32 PM
    - Bad for Bush no matter how you slice - dtb - 2/28/2006 6:27:43 PM
      - Missing link - dtb - 2/28/2006 6:28:18 PM
  - re-read Bowser's last sentence (n/t) - alcaray - 2/28/2006 4:08:26 PM
    - I thought he was being sarcastic. - REB - 2/28/2006 4:30:33 PM
      - My bad. You are right. (n/t) - alcaray - 2/28/2006 4:51:08 PM
- Congratulations! - Scott Evil - 2/28/2006 2:55:18 PM
  - re: Congratulations! - REB - 2/28/2006 3:04:18 PM
    - So you're saying Tom Delay is a good guy? - azstrummer - 2/28/2006 3:47:03 PM
      - re: Imagine what would happen if your dog met Hillary Clinton. - Scott Evil - 2/28/2006 6:53:35 PM
        
        Man, that's a stale debating technique - changing the target - azstrummer - 3/1/2006 6:21:14 PM
        
        (speaking of derangement) (n/t) - alcaray - 2/28/2006 7:11:48 PM
        
        the funny thing is that "my derangement" (ie Carl rove's derangement) - Scott Evil - 2/28/2006 11:55:49 PM
      - He is a politician. - REB - 2/28/2006 3:50:59 PM
        
        "He did nothing illegal" - azstrummer - 3/1/2006 6:35:37 PM
        
        re: "He did nothing illegal" - REB - 3/1/2006 6:57:18 PM
        
        re: "He did nothing illegal" - azstrummer - 3/1/2006 8:13:30 PM
        
        Ronnie Earl has killed DeLay - REB - 3/1/2006 9:45:43 PM
        
        re: Ronnie Earl has killed DeLay - azstrummer - 3/1/2006 11:38:19 PM
        
        Make that: Ronnie Earl has killed DeLay's political Career with just some accusations that have not been proven (n/t) - REB - 3/1/2006 9:47:04 PM
        
        And has anyone noticed: the Texas redistricting was argued before SCotUS today? - Fox - 3/2/2006 4:19:44 AM
        
        Redistricting in Houston was first done by Democrats to get minority votes. - REB - 3/2/2006 1:22:45 PM
        
        Ronnie Earl has killed DeLay - REB - 3/1/2006 9:45:41 PM
    - the Bush Derangement is paying off! - Scott Evil - 2/28/2006 3:12:14 PM
- re: Coming to their senses - 34%+ for Bush, 10%+ for Cheney. - dtb - 2/28/2006 1:24:45 PM
  - Let's do the math...shall we? - SDAI-Tech1 - 2/28/2006 9:12:15 PM
    - It looks like the polled CBS viewers. - Scott Evil - 2/28/2006 11:58:04 PM
  - Here is a site rthat shows most polls. - REB - 2/28/2006 2:28:47 PM

And more. "Bush praises Afghanistan progress" - Bowser - 3/2/2006 12:35:59 AM
- So you don't think Afghanistan is doing better now than 4 years ago? - Lee - 3/2/2006 2:50:08 AM
  - Lessee. - Bowser - 3/2/2006 6:18:27 AM
  - re: So you don't think Afghanistan is doing better now than 4 years ago? - gbaikie - 3/2/2006 4:03:38 AM
    - Well the Kurds have had a 15 year head start. - Lee - 3/2/2006 6:53:37 AM

Bush & Chertoff Uninterested in Pending Katrina Disaaster - Donald - 3/2/2006 3:43:27 AM

Bush approval ratings at 34% - Donald - 3/1/2006 3:30:01 AM
- About his I.Q......... - carl - 3/1/2006 6:57:07 PM
  - Stop shouting - TOtalitarian Near You - 3/1/2006 9:31:30 PM
- Is that ;ower than the last time a depressed loser posted this? - Scott Evil - 3/1/2006 3:39:02 AM
  - Its a good thing.... - Donald - 3/1/2006 3:45:23 AM
    - re: Its a good thing.... - gbaikie - 3/1/2006 9:07:05 AM
      - CBS makes "good news" - azstrummer - 3/1/2006 11:47:38 PM
        
        re: CBS makes "good news" - gbaikie - 3/2/2006 1:59:22 AM
    - I'm not depressed at all. Call me when you win an election. - Scott Evil - 3/1/2006 3:52:22 AM
      - Well, frankly... - DOnald - 3/1/2006 3:59:34 AM
        
        I don't blame you for wanting to be a woman. - Scott Evil - 3/1/2006 4:08:03 AM
        
        Well.... - Donald - 3/1/2006 3:22:54 PM

Afghanistan - Perfect model of GWBs foreign policy - Bowser - 2/28/2006 9:17:36 PM
- re: Perfect model - Tom Brosz - 2/28/2006 9:35:19 PM
  - Any president would've taken the step to invade Afghanistan - azstrummer - 3/1/2006 5:35:37 PM
    - Not the slam dunk you think it is. - Tom Brosz - 3/2/2006 1:47:53 AM
  - He didn't do the job, and lied about it. Bush. That's his pattern. - Bowser - 3/1/2006 3:08:03 AM
    - Sorry, weren't we discussing Afghanistan? - Tom Brosz - 3/1/2006 5:04:48 AM
      - re: Sorry, weren't we discussing Afghanistan? - REB - 3/1/2006 4:47:15 PM
      - And Bush, and patterns. Incompetence, lying. (n/t) - Bowser - 3/1/2006 5:47:53 AM
  - Any comment on Afghanistan? (n/t) - Tony - 2/28/2006 10:13:08 PM
    - re: comment - Tom Brosz - 2/28/2006 10:35:15 PM

A question about presidential succession - Laurie Street - 3/1/2006 4:36:30 PM
- Thank you both for your thoughtful replies - Laurie Street - 3/1/2006 9:03:23 PM
- re: A question about presidential succession - Robert - 3/1/2006 6:06:44 PM
- Answers - David F Mayer - 3/1/2006 4:57:24 PM
  - re: Answers - gbaikie - 3/2/2006 12:47:09 AM

Quagmire - can't "win", can't get out. "Military mulls whether Iraq troop cut possible" - Bowser - 3/1/2006 10:44:02 PM

So now the Republicans can order up an IRS audit, if they don't like you. - alcaray - 2/27/2006 9:36:51 PM
- IRS audits have been used as poltical weapons since the IRS was established. (n/t) - Buck Galaxy - 3/1/2006 8:18:05 AM
  - It's bad and should stop, right? Is it legal? (n/t) - alcaray - 3/1/2006 3:54:15 PM
- Then I suppose you're in favor of releasing the full Barrett Report - Larry J - 2/28/2006 2:22:36 AM
  - Cisneros? - alcaray - 2/28/2006 4:14:28 PM

Poll: Most troops favor Iraq pullout - Donald - 3/1/2006 3:06:24 PM
- Meanwhile: 2,297 - Donald - 3/1/2006 3:25:03 PM

Coast Guard Warned of Port Deal Intel Gaps - Donald - 2/28/2006 5:04:11 AM
- A fundamental question I haven't seen addressed....... - Publius - 2/28/2006 7:56:15 PM
  - Seriouly a good question. - Scott Evil - 3/1/2006 4:30:54 AM
  - re: A fundamental question I haven't seen addressed....... - SteveS - 2/28/2006 11:33:59 PM
  - re: A fundamental question I haven't seen addressed....... - REB - 2/28/2006 10:07:31 PM
- They asked questions, and the questions were answered to their satisfaction. - Tom Brosz - 2/28/2006 5:16:52 AM
  - The relevant quote - Donald - 2/28/2006 5:33:09 AM

Saddam's Trial update. - REB - 2/28/2006 2:35:59 PM
- Seems like good evidence: signatures on docs with... - alcaray - 2/28/2006 7:17:20 PM
  - I wonder if Sadam's lawyers will walk out on his execution? - Scott Evil - 3/1/2006 4:00:32 AM

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