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Democratic Voter Registration Drive - David F Mayer - 10/5/2004 11:53:02 PM

Woman runs for President of Afghanistan - David F Mayer - 10/5/2004 9:40:07 PM
- re: the woman hater Bin Ladin can't be happy with this development - Scott Evil - 10/5/2004 10:10:16 PM

Skewed Intelligence Data in March to War in Iraq - Chris Vancil - 10/5/2004 8:50:34 PM

Doubts about Iraq's aluminum tubes raised as early as 2001 - Chris Vancil - 10/5/2004 8:34:02 PM

The new cottage industry that is taking america by storm - Tony - 10/5/2004 7:14:09 PM
- Yo, Tony! - Fox - 10/5/2004 8:24:47 PM

Doing the best he can, after getting all he asked for, this just a little bit of what we've got from Bush. - Bowser - 10/3/2004 9:48:53 PM
- How to tell when we're winning... - Tom Brosz - 10/3/2004 9:55:19 PM
  - What does losing look like? If this is good no wonder Bush smirks so much. - Bowser - 10/3/2004 10:53:08 PM
    - Ask Saddam. (n/t) - ebnelson - 10/4/2004 1:21:55 AM
      - I did. - Bowser - 10/4/2004 3:29:01 PM
        
        What I have to know - ebnelson - 10/4/2004 9:35:46 PM
        
        is about everything. How to think, how to speak, - Bowser - 10/5/2004 12:57:24 AM
        
        You do projection so well. - ebnelson - 10/5/2004 7:44:07 PM
        
        Don't pick on Ed..................... - Publius - 10/5/2004 3:12:18 PM

Interesting development... - Tom Brosz - 10/4/2004 5:48:13 PM
- re: Interesting development... - Art Martin - 10/4/2004 6:27:00 PM
  - Red flags - Tom Brosz - 10/4/2004 10:22:09 PM
- re: Interesting development... - REB - 10/4/2004 6:22:41 PM
  - Saddam wanted WMD's? - Art Martin - 10/4/2004 6:45:19 PM
    - P.S. You saw how well deterrence worked on Afghanistan. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 10/4/2004 8:47:53 PM
    - re: Saddam - Tom Brosz - 10/4/2004 8:46:12 PM
      - re: Strategically? - Raoul - 10/4/2004 10:31:10 PM
        
        re: Never say never! - Scott Evil - 10/5/2004 4:05:45 PM
        
        re: Strategically? - gbaikie - 10/5/2004 5:54:25 AM
        
        re: France - Raoul - 10/5/2004 11:39:26 AM
        
        Yes, Raoul. Some cops went into a town in south France and arrested some terrorists. - Tom Brosz - 10/5/2004 6:38:35 PM
        
        re: What is to stop the ETA from taking hostages and demanding the release of their brother's in arms? - Scott Evil - 10/5/2004 4:11:50 PM

Religion Of Peace Update - Mark Eby - 10/5/2004 2:36:20 AM
- Sucker bet - Robert - 10/5/2004 3:18:35 PM
- That's good to hear - FrankC - 10/5/2004 2:59:59 PM
- re: Religion Of Peace Update - phil - 10/5/2004 2:48:41 PM
- Clarification - Mark Eby - 10/5/2004 2:38:19 AM
  - re: Clarification - Publius - 10/5/2004 3:21:52 PM

Even "Bremer Criticizes Troop Levels" - Bowser - 10/5/2004 4:02:54 AM
- The whole team knows it when the quarterback fumbles.......n/t (n/t) - Publius - 10/5/2004 2:35:37 PM

Low Oil Prices Threaten World Economy - David F Mayer - 10/3/2004 4:28:58 PM
- re: Low Oil Prices - Tom Brosz - 10/3/2004 7:37:07 PM
  - Not enough time. We need lead time. The changeover will not happen as long as cheap oil is around. - David F Mayer - 10/4/2004 1:22:01 PM
    - I so agree. Timetable's too short for procrastination. - Art Martin - 10/4/2004 6:59:58 PM
      - Before diving in, check the water for rocks. - Tom Brosz - 10/4/2004 9:06:29 PM
        
        I understand that the Governmnet can NOT develop new energy resource. - David F Mayer - 10/5/2004 12:42:59 AM
        
        hmm, corruption in politics? Just the Dems I suppose you mean. - Art Martin - 10/4/2004 10:07:22 PM
        
        re: corruption in politics - Tom Brosz - 10/5/2004 3:21:26 AM
        
        You have some very good points. - David F Mayer - 10/5/2004 12:48:35 AM
    - It'll work. - Tom Brosz - 10/4/2004 4:42:47 PM
  - So how do you suggest paying for the roads you complain about? (n/t) - Bowser - 10/3/2004 9:32:34 PM
    - Sorry. Badly worded. Should have been "no ADDITIONAL taxes." (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 10/3/2004 9:45:24 PM
- Sounding like Al Gore. (n/t) - Bowser - 10/3/2004 5:34:17 PM
  - Do you mean the same Al Gore who invented alternative energy? (n/t) - David F Mayer - 10/3/2004 7:31:36 PM
    - re: Alternative to what? 8-) (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 10/4/2004 2:20:00 AM
      - OIL! (n/t) - DFM - 10/4/2004 1:22:35 PM

Map of Iraq attacks - Tom Brosz - 9/29/2004 7:29:57 PM
- Don't forget scale. - REB - 9/30/2004 1:47:57 PM
- Coalition fatalities mapped out - Tom Brosz - 9/30/2004 12:17:58 AM
- reminds me of the blue/red county map - Tony - 9/29/2004 8:11:51 PM
  - population density? Naw. - alcaray - 9/29/2004 8:26:55 PM
    - The True Picture Requires Attacks Overlayed On Population Density Map - Mark Eby - 9/30/2004 2:05:00 AM
    - If you look closely there's a couple of mountain tops in the Kurd area that havent been attacked either. (n/t) - Tony - 9/29/2004 8:28:28 PM
      - Bet there's not much going on below sea-level, either. - alcaray - 9/29/2004 9:30:57 PM
        
        There seems to be something happening wherever there are American troops. - Bowser - 9/29/2004 10:53:09 PM
        
        Amusing. - Tom Brosz - 9/29/2004 10:31:02 PM
        
        Cor Blimey - Good stuff! - tony - 9/30/2004 5:54:45 AM
        
        Maps and times - Tom Brosz - 9/30/2004 3:46:52 PM
        
        You were doing so well. - Tony - 9/30/2004 5:43:28 PM
        
        Cut and run - Tom Brosz - 9/30/2004 7:58:16 PM
        
        Your opinion could well be correct - Tony - 9/30/2004 8:23:25 PM
        
        The bet is kind of a moot point since Kerry isn't going to win. ;) - Tom Brosz - 9/30/2004 8:47:17 PM
        
        Capitulation - Tony - 9/30/2004 8:55:29 PM
        
        I'll bet you (Tom) one thousand dollars. - alcaray - 9/30/2004 8:54:58 PM
        
        re: I'll bet you (Tom) one thousand dollars. - Tom Brosz - 10/1/2004 2:28:55 AM
        
        What sounds reasonable to you? (n/t) - alcaray - 10/1/2004 3:53:07 PM
        
        re: What sounds reasonable to you? - Tom Brosz - 10/1/2004 8:41:09 PM
        
        re: What sounds reasonable to you? - alcaray - 10/1/2004 10:40:58 PM
        
        Geez, this is getting to be work now. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 10/2/2004 1:00:12 AM
        
        how about... - alcaray - 10/2/2004 5:04:46 PM
        
        Getting close, but even the "no fly zone" arrangement would have qualified. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 10/2/2004 8:01:40 PM
        
        I think thaty something like the no-fly zone should qualify, don't you? - alcaray - 10/4/2004 5:22:18 PM
        
        Interesting. - Tom Brosz - 10/4/2004 9:31:43 PM
        
        The bet is impossible - alcaray - 10/4/2004 10:59:51 PM
        
        Addendum: The British Left - Tony - 9/30/2004 8:44:04 PM
        
        That's a whole different case... - Tom Brosz - 9/30/2004 8:52:20 PM
        
        No it isn't - Tony - 9/30/2004 9:02:56 PM
        
        Two Questions - REB - 10/1/2004 12:58:27 PM
        
        re: Two Questions - Art Martin - 10/1/2004 11:09:13 PM
        
        I done gone native, yeeehaaaaaw (n/t) - tony - 10/2/2004 1:26:41 AM
        
        Should Have Read More - Mark Eby - 9/30/2004 2:10:49 AM
        
        Don't confuse cause and effect about coalition troops attracting violence - Tom Brosz - 9/30/2004 3:36:18 AM
        
        Wow, thanks! - alcaray - 9/29/2004 10:43:44 PM
        
        Oil - Tom Brosz - 9/29/2004 11:05:37 PM
        
        Something to note... - Tom Brosz - 9/29/2004 11:07:01 PM
        
        Syria - Tom Brosz - 9/29/2004 10:46:54 PM

"Fabricated"!!! Let's hear the howling - "Fabricated Kerry Posting Leads to Apology from Fox News" - Bowser - 10/3/2004 5:02:43 PM
- Fox Mistake was an editorial. CBS mistake were a forged military documents.. - REB - 10/4/2004 2:26:47 PM
  - How do you get it so wrong? "---posting a made-up news article ---" (n/t) - Bowser - 10/4/2004 3:16:12 PM
    - Editoral or Article, doesn't matter. Fox caught their own mistake, admitted it and corrected it. CBS did not. - REB - 10/4/2004 3:59:47 PM
      - Just doesn't matter. Accurate, but not correct. That's OK for you? - Bowser - 10/4/2004 8:35:13 PM
        
        Pssstttt....Mr. Emperor, about those clothes. - ebnelson - 10/4/2004 10:42:13 PM
- re: "Fabricated"!!! Let's hear the howling - "Fabricated Kerry Posting Leads to Apology from Fox News" - McFly - 10/4/2004 2:09:15 PM
- 'quickly retracted' vs. still trying to justify the lie after five years. (n/t) - ebnelson - 10/4/2004 1:18:44 AM
- woof ~yawn~ - RobVG - 10/3/2004 5:15:02 PM
  - Entirely different. They weren't led astray, they just plain lied. - Bowser - 10/3/2004 5:35:46 PM
    - You think CBS was 'led astray'? - ebnelson - 10/4/2004 9:37:29 PM
    - Oh I see... - RobVG - 10/3/2004 5:50:47 PM
      - robvg - Bowser - 10/3/2004 6:28:17 PM

Sharing the load in Iraq - Tom Brosz - 10/4/2004 6:12:22 PM
- re: No other country can... - Raoul - 10/4/2004 10:34:27 PM
- The world went downhill fast after GW1? (n/t) - alcaray - 10/4/2004 10:15:56 PM

"Samarra was the least difficult of the rebel cities. It has a history of strong opposition to Saddam Hussein - - - " - Bowser - 10/4/2004 3:35:05 PM
- Oh, almost forgot that one... - Tom Brosz - 10/4/2004 4:20:21 PM
  - Notice that the same weasels who said we were hopelessly outmatched in Afghanistan - ebnelson - 10/4/2004 9:52:14 PM
  - How to tell if you're winning: 1 - After the CinC says "major combat is over - - - " - Bowser - 10/4/2004 5:14:07 PM

In Our Town - Publius - 10/2/2004 5:34:18 PM
- Perhaps we need to find out where this new "Reverend" Kreiss lives..... - Lindy - 10/3/2004 3:31:23 AM
  - In Sebring - Tom Brosz - 10/3/2004 5:38:04 AM
- re: In Our Town - gbaikie - 10/2/2004 10:59:21 PM
- Interesting. - Tom Brosz - 10/2/2004 7:49:22 PM
  - It's a matter of distribution.... - Publius - 10/4/2004 6:49:23 PM
  - Don't like it much, do you? - Mary Anne - 10/3/2004 4:13:21 PM
  - What's interesting - You can't think of any terrorism by Christians? (n/t) - Bowser - 10/3/2004 3:30:38 AM
  - Shootin' fish in a barrel...(whatever that means) (n/t) - RobVG - 10/2/2004 10:33:15 PM
- re: In Our Town - Raoul - 10/2/2004 6:55:08 PM
  - Great post, thank you for linkages I would prefer didn't exist......Publius (n/t) - Publius - 10/4/2004 6:52:28 PM
- Fundamentalist scare me. (n/t) - John - 10/2/2004 5:46:07 PM

Bush's fake Texan twang? - Chris Vancil - 10/3/2004 8:08:40 AM
- Possibly because the man is from Conneticutt? n/t (n/t) - Publius - 10/4/2004 6:35:29 PM
- Deep accents often a look into how the brain works. - Art Martin - 10/4/2004 3:43:42 PM

3 Polls Show Kerry Won Debate Over Bush - Donald - 10/1/2004 2:27:30 PM
- re: Because they were tired of Bush sayin' "sending mixed messages" ~8 times! When it was clear he was the one doing it... - Chris Vancil - 10/1/2004 10:07:28 PM
- Bush seemed kind of whiney and defensive to me (n/t) - alcaray - 10/1/2004 7:13:20 PM
- One observation - Tony - 10/1/2004 4:04:52 PM
  - You might want a slightly broader sample. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 10/1/2004 5:40:15 PM
    - I'm only one man. Besides, most boards were slow as molasses at -22 deg C. ;-) (n/t) - Tony - 10/1/2004 6:10:39 PM
      - Try it on a frigging dialup. :( (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 10/1/2004 6:23:00 PM
        
        In that case I won't tell you that I was streaming live feed of debate at same time..... (n/t) - Tony - 10/1/2004 7:17:04 PM
- Two Nixson's---No Kennedy......... - Publius - 10/1/2004 3:42:07 PM
  - I've seen his webpage on Iraq - Tom Brosz - 10/1/2004 5:20:54 PM
    - The French Let Joan Burn (n/t) - We Must Have Such Noble Allies - 10/4/2004 5:20:00 PM
  - re: Two Nixson's---No Kennedy......... - REB - 10/1/2004 3:47:08 PM
    - I'm sorry. Normally going after spelling is petty but it's Nixon. - Art Martin - 10/2/2004 6:34:50 AM
      - Mea Culpa, Mea Maxima Culpa....... - Publius - 10/2/2004 3:03:01 PM
        
        Shame on me - Art Martin - 10/4/2004 6:10:49 PM
    - And... - REB - 10/1/2004 3:50:10 PM
- Bush looked like a deer caught in the headlights.... - Lindy - 10/1/2004 2:47:30 PM
  - re: Bush looked like a deer caught in the headlights.... - McFly - 10/1/2004 3:16:10 PM
- re: Not surprising. - Scott Evil - 10/1/2004 2:34:32 PM
  - re: Not surprising. - Donald - 10/1/2004 2:40:38 PM
    - re: I don't think that it is quite as in the bag for Kerry as you potray it. - Scott Evil - 10/1/2004 2:45:34 PM
      - I don't think I portrayed it that way - Donald - 10/1/2004 3:16:03 PM

Mt. St. Helens is "burping" again. - Tom Brosz - 10/4/2004 5:18:05 PM
- re: Mt. St. Helens is "burping" again. - Art Martin - 10/4/2004 5:32:59 PM

With voters widely viewing Kerry as the debateâ€™s winner, Bushâ€™s lead in the NEWSWEEK poll has evaporated - Bowser - 10/3/2004 4:10:13 AM
- If the debate were a prize fight Bush got KTFO'ed (n/t) - Buck Galaxy - 10/3/2004 3:22:53 PM
  - Some Kerry quotes - Tom Brosz - 10/3/2004 10:45:29 PM
    - Kerry's Iraq plan is a puff of smoke blowing away in the wind. - REB - 10/4/2004 2:19:32 PM

ETA - Raoul - 10/4/2004 7:46:09 AM
- Congratulations - SteveS - 10/4/2004 12:27:51 PM
  - Too late for Iraq - Bowser - 10/4/2004 1:14:09 PM

Afghan elections - effect might be to legitimize warlords, not strengthen country. - Bowser - 10/4/2004 1:11:08 PM

Good news from the Islamic world - Tom Brosz - 10/4/2004 6:36:19 AM

Update: The U.N. Oil for Food scandal - Tom Brosz - 10/3/2004 12:55:03 AM
- More here... - Tom Brosz - 10/3/2004 9:50:41 PM
  - It's expected that Russia China and France profited from the program. - RobVG - 10/4/2004 2:33:30 AM
- How does that compare to Halliburton's gouging of the US and Iraq? (n/t) - Bowser - 10/3/2004 2:12:48 AM
  - Halliburton is a demohack made up story, the UN starved a nation and fed terroirsts. (n/t) - ebnelson - 10/4/2004 1:20:15 AM
- Empty - RobVG - 10/3/2004 1:30:16 AM
  - more - RobVG - 10/3/2004 1:57:58 AM

President of Poland comments on John "Mr. Alliances" Kerry - Tom Brosz - 10/3/2004 3:22:08 AM
- As violence worsens, Poland reported to reduce it's complement of troops. - Bowser - 10/3/2004 10:41:13 AM
- re: So President Kwasniewski doesn't take Bush's advice about not dissing allies either. Bush doesn't take his own advice. Why should anyone else? Your point? (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 10/3/2004 7:21:13 AM
  - One point is that Kerry's entire "allies" pitch is a smokescreen. - Tom Brosz - 10/3/2004 7:41:39 PM
    - re: Right, and calling people who spend zero to a few million dollars and send zero to a few hundred troops a coalition and great allies is what exactly? - Chris Vancil - 10/4/2004 1:48:19 AM
    - I think it's Bush that's hated, so far, not the US. - Bowse4r - 10/3/2004 9:30:45 PM

Genocide in Darfur: another Bush lie! - Tom Brosz - 10/3/2004 9:57:58 PM

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