To put it very informally, climate science seems to be about where evolutionary science was before genetics was discovered and solid molecular evidence began to accumulate.
Science has no frigging clue exactly what is going on with the climate on anything other than the largest scale, and even there, they're still finding new mechanisms all the time that affect the outcome. This does not make them stupid, it just means they are dealing with a huge and chaotic system. Just as one example off the top of my head, how recent are the discoveries of the actual effects of deep ocean currents on world climate?
I don't think we have enough hard answers to justify the massive knee-jerk economic and industrial disruptions being advocated at almost every level of society (all of them, by coincidence I'm sure, resulting in much more power to centralized authorities and less choice and freedom for the individual.)
I do think continued research is a good idea, and I also think there are other reasons besides AGW for doing some things, like building nuclear reactors and reducing our use of oil for transportation.
Too many AGW advocates are operating on the same level as those religious people who say "God said it, I believe it, that settles it." And too many, including most of the scientists, seem unaware that politics is driving the issue a lot more than the science is.
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The whole thread (100 posts)
- Scientists Say No to AGW, Sign Petition
- "Unless we announce disasters no one will listen."
- U.S. Senate Report: Over 400 Prominent Scientists Disputed Man-Made Global Warming Claims in 2007
- New Peer-Reviewed Scientific Studies Chill Global Warming Fears
- Why do some denialists claim to be environmentalists?
- More on the "petition"
- Greenhouse Gas Hypothesis Violates Fundamentals of Physics
- Hans Schreuder's Letter to EPA
- Sometimes ordinary people get it right, even if they have wierd reasons.
- It is a well-known scientifical fack - - -
- Facts and Fancies
- Who exactly are you trying to fool?
- I certainly am connecting those dots.
- Facts and Fancies
- Who ARE these people?
- re: Who ARE these people?
- A response
- Give Me A Scientific Reason That Increasing A Greenhouse Gas Won't Warm a Planet's Atmosphere
- Photosynthesis
- re: Give Me A Scientific Reason That Increasing A Greenhouse Gas Won't Warm a Planet's Atmosphere
- re: Could you direct me to the experiment?
- Give Me A Scientific Reason That Increasing A Greenhouse Gas Won't Warm a Planet's Atmosphere
- re: Who ARE these people?
- re: Scientists Say No to AGW, Sign Petition
- re: Scientists Say No to AGW, Sign Petition
