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ER — 11/25/2008 4:48:42 AM (archived)

Google " George C Marshall Institute" and you get all sorts of hits. Don't take my word for it, read 'em yourself and make up your own mind.

I tried to go directly to their website but it would not "accept my query"

If you're interested in their funding, and connections to OISM and the Petition, try the following:

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=George_C._Marshall_Institute

http://www.exxonsecrets.org/html/orgfactsheet.php?id=36

These guys aren't crackpots. They know exactly what they're doing, and they have powerful friends.

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Scientists Say No to AGW, Sign Petition - S - 11/22/2008 8:20:58 PM
- "Unless we announce disasters no one will listen." - S - 11/26/2008 9:24:40 PM
- U.S. Senate Report: Over 400 Prominent Scientists Disputed Man-Made Global Warming Claims in 2007 - S - 11/25/2008 10:37:53 PM
  - Long ago debunked here and elsewhere.... not only are you spamming BS, You are spamming out of date BS that even TB wouldnt try to sell here... - ARRELL - 11/26/2008 7:55:22 AM
- New Peer-Reviewed Scientific Studies Chill Global Warming Fears - S - 11/25/2008 9:47:45 PM
  - You Are So Confused - Marsby - 11/27/2008 9:02:14 PM
  - Sen. Inhofe and his staff oompa-loompas don't speak for the Senate Committee - pwokenyaw - 11/25/2008 10:40:36 PM
- Why do some denialists claim to be environmentalists? - pwokenyaw - 11/25/2008 5:52:52 AM
  - I don't know. - TB - 11/25/2008 5:09:27 PM
    - TB... - et - 11/25/2008 6:24:36 PM
      - Go down the posts on this subject and read your second paragraph again. (n/t) - TB - 11/25/2008 6:44:05 PM
        
        The dynamics of global warming/climate change arent goverened by discourse here in HZ. - end transmission - 11/25/2008 7:04:35 PM
    - Same reason as the reaction we have against evolution deniers. (n/t) - pwokenyaw - 11/25/2008 5:38:23 PM
      - Unfortunately... - TB - 11/25/2008 6:17:35 PM
        
        Re-state that in a less ambiguous manner, please. - et - 11/25/2008 6:27:51 PM
        
        re: Re-state that in a less ambiguous manner, please. - TB - 11/25/2008 6:59:18 PM
        
        No - Marsby - 11/27/2008 7:54:20 PM
- More on the "petition" - ARRELL - 11/25/2008 2:54:48 AM
  - The Climate Underground - ER - 11/25/2008 4:48:42 AM
    - They are a political/corporate group.... NOT a scientific group... - ARRELL - 11/25/2008 5:06:44 AM
      - Unlike the United Nations (n/t) - TB - 11/25/2008 6:18:43 PM
        
        Did you have anything to say, or are you trying to meet your one-liner quota? - ARRELL - 11/25/2008 6:51:01 PM
        
        The difference is... - TB - 11/25/2008 7:04:53 PM
        
        When Will You Admit That Businesses Are Based On Self Centered Greed? - Marsby - 11/27/2008 8:28:40 PM
      - re: They are a political/corporate group.... NOT a scientific group... - Lee - 11/25/2008 12:55:11 PM
        
        More nonsense.... - ARRELL - 11/25/2008 2:39:59 PM
        
        And who funds them? Anybody at all "political?" (n/t) - TB - 11/25/2008 6:42:31 PM
        
        Did you have anything to say, or are you trying to meet your one-liner quota? (n/t) - ARRELL - 11/25/2008 6:48:55 PM
        
        Are they talking about AGW or just GW? - Lee - 11/25/2008 6:23:25 PM
        
        They are talking about AGW, and the point is that the science isn't in doubt - ARRELL - 11/25/2008 6:41:05 PM
- Greenhouse Gas Hypothesis Violates Fundamentals of Physics - S - 11/24/2008 9:11:01 PM
  - That is complete BS.... - ARRELL\ - 11/25/2008 2:39:29 AM
    - It must be true, it's on the internet. - ER - 11/25/2008 3:04:02 AM
      - re:The main stream media is obviously covering only one sided stories. (n/t) - Johannes - 11/26/2008 9:00:03 PM
  - re: Greenhouse Gas Hypothesis Violates Fundamentals of Physics - gbaikie - 11/24/2008 9:29:27 PM
- Hans Schreuder's Letter to EPA - S - 11/23/2008 10:33:42 PM
- Sometimes ordinary people get it right, even if they have wierd reasons. - zed - 11/23/2008 1:41:17 AM
  - Weird Reasons, Specious Arguments, Junk Science - S - 11/23/2008 9:28:10 PM
- It is a well-known scientifical fack - - - - Bowser - 11/23/2008 12:22:41 AM
  - Facts and Fancies - S - 11/23/2008 9:58:00 PM
    - Who exactly are you trying to fool? - ARRELL - 11/25/2008 5:41:03 AM
      - re: I can agree with everything except - Johannes - 11/26/2008 10:12:10 PM
      - re: Who exactly are you trying to fool? - gbaikie - 11/25/2008 8:41:34 AM
        
        "Sea level have not risen significantly in the last hundred years, nor are they expected to rise much in next hundred years."- where do you get this nonsense? - ARRELL - 11/25/2008 12:35:57 PM
        
        Your graphs actually agree with each other - Laurie Street - 11/25/2008 3:55:20 PM
        
        re: Your graphs actually agree with each other - gbaikie - 11/26/2008 8:12:08 AM
        
        where do you get this nonsense? - gbaikie - 11/25/2008 1:26:27 PM
        
        Think it through... - ARRELL - 11/25/2008 3:02:57 PM
        
        re: Think it through... - gbaikie - 11/26/2008 1:22:40 AM
        
        Entire first paragraph vanished.... - ARRELL - 11/25/2008 3:08:35 PM
        
        re: Entire first paragraph vanished.... - gbaikie - 11/26/2008 1:40:03 AM
    - I certainly am connecting those dots. - Bowser - 11/23/2008 10:31:44 PM
      - Dots can be connected in many ways - S - 11/23/2008 10:47:27 PM
- Who ARE these people? - ER - 11/22/2008 11:31:42 PM
  - re: Who ARE these people? - ER - 11/23/2008 3:04:21 AM
    - Bingo. - Bowser - 11/23/2008 6:27:27 AM
      - re: Bingo. - gbaikie - 11/23/2008 11:45:37 AM
        
        Socialism, for one. - Bowser - 11/23/2008 10:36:22 PM
        
        re: Socialism, for one. - gbaikie - 11/23/2008 11:05:19 PM
        
        You asked for ways to control greed. You got them. Now go away. (n/t) - Bowser - 11/24/2008 3:24:43 AM
        
        I take you agree with what I said? (n/t) - gbaikie - 11/24/2008 4:01:42 AM
    - "economic and political interests" - TB - 11/23/2008 5:31:53 AM
      - re: "economic and political interests" - ER - 11/23/2008 6:40:53 AM
        
        I disagree. - TB - 11/23/2008 4:56:26 PM
        
        Feel free. - ER - 11/23/2008 5:42:16 PM
    - re: Who ARE these people? - gbaikie - 11/23/2008 4:41:52 AM
      - I stand by my statement. Go in peace. (n/t) - ER - 11/23/2008 5:25:02 AM
  - A response - TB - 11/23/2008 2:59:25 AM
    - Give Me A Scientific Reason That Increasing A Greenhouse Gas Won't Warm a Planet's Atmosphere - Marsby - 11/24/2008 6:13:53 AM
      - Photosynthesis - S - 11/24/2008 9:42:26 PM
        
        That's Handwaiving Not Reason - Marsby - 11/24/2008 10:23:14 PM
        
        "Try using Occam's razor folks." - S - 11/26/2008 10:02:23 PM
        
        re: "Try using Occam's razor folks." - Faulty Attempt - Marsby - 11/28/2008 2:05:18 AM
        
        re: That's Handwaiving Not Reason - gbaikie - 11/25/2008 2:51:42 AM
        
        "Cold ocean absorbs CO2 and warm oceans release CO2. "- Yet the ocean acidity is INCREASING due to increased CO2.... - ARRELL - 11/25/2008 3:31:36 PM
        
        re: "Cold ocean absorbs CO2 and warm oceans release CO2. "- Yet the ocean acidity is INCREASING due to increased CO2.... - gbaikie - 11/26/2008 1:58:09 AM
        
        Too Many Variables For You To Juggle - Marsby - 11/27/2008 8:55:16 PM
        
        Do your own damn research... - ARRELL - 11/26/2008 8:10:19 AM
        
        re: Do your own damn research... - gbaikie - 11/26/2008 8:43:21 AM
        
        You have a point. - Marsby - 11/25/2008 5:58:12 AM
        
        re: That's Handwaiving Not Reason - pwokenyaw - 11/24/2008 11:56:41 PM
      - re: Give Me A Scientific Reason That Increasing A Greenhouse Gas Won't Warm a Planet's Atmosphere - gbaikie - 11/24/2008 8:03:42 PM
        
        Using Your Own Numbers - Marsby - 11/24/2008 11:12:57 PM
        
        re: Using Your Own Numbers - gbaikie - 11/25/2008 1:33:04 AM
        
        More Misleading "Facts" From GB - Marsby - 11/24/2008 10:47:04 PM
        
        re: More Misleading "Facts" From GB - gbaikie - 11/25/2008 7:10:50 AM
      - re: Could you direct me to the experiment? - Johannes - 11/24/2008 5:40:19 PM
        
        try "On the Influence of Carbonic Acid in the Air Upon the Temperature of the Ground", Philosophical Magazine 1896(41): 237-76) (n/t) - pwokenyaw - 11/24/2008 6:34:09 PM
        
        re: try "On the Influence of Carbonic Acid in the Air Upon the Temperature of the Ground", Philosophical Magazine 1896(41): 237-76) - gbaikie - 11/24/2008 8:29:44 PM
        
        re: try "On the Influence of Carbonic Acid in the Air Upon the Temperature of the Ground", Philosophical Magazine 1896(41): 237-76) - gbaikie - 11/24/2008 9:10:23 PM
        
        When - Nick Hoffman - 11/25/2008 2:53:24 AM
        
        re: When - gbaikie - 11/25/2008 4:49:34 AM
        
        re: When - nick hoffman - 11/25/2008 8:48:48 AM
        
        re: When - gbaikie - 11/25/2008 12:49:53 PM
        
        re: Addendum - Johannes - 11/24/2008 5:57:34 PM
  - re: Who ARE these people? - gbaikie - 11/23/2008 2:10:10 AM
    - re: Who ARE these people? - ER - 11/23/2008 3:10:39 AM
      - Misplaced post, - ER - 11/23/2008 3:22:54 AM
- re: Scientists Say No to AGW, Sign Petition - Post Sputnik - 11/22/2008 10:50:28 PM
- re: Scientists Say No to AGW, Sign Petition - gbaikie - 11/22/2008 10:10:53 PM

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