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Nick Hoffman — 11/25/2008 2:53:24 AM (archived)

CO2 has been "accurately" measured at many times. Just the standard of acuracy has improved with time.

Also, these days we can get real smart and measure CO2 content of trapped gas in ice cores and measure actual* atmospheric CO2 dating back over the last 400,000 years or so...

http://www.daviesand.com/Choices/Precautionary_Planning/New_Data/
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/paleo/icecore/antarctica/vostok/vostok_co2.html

*actual, once corrected for subtle burial effects, of course.

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Scientists Say No to AGW, Sign Petition - S - 11/22/2008 8:20:58 PM
- "Unless we announce disasters no one will listen." - S - 11/26/2008 9:24:40 PM
- U.S. Senate Report: Over 400 Prominent Scientists Disputed Man-Made Global Warming Claims in 2007 - S - 11/25/2008 10:37:53 PM
  - Long ago debunked here and elsewhere.... not only are you spamming BS, You are spamming out of date BS that even TB wouldnt try to sell here... - ARRELL - 11/26/2008 7:55:22 AM
- New Peer-Reviewed Scientific Studies Chill Global Warming Fears - S - 11/25/2008 9:47:45 PM
  - You Are So Confused - Marsby - 11/27/2008 9:02:14 PM
  - Sen. Inhofe and his staff oompa-loompas don't speak for the Senate Committee - pwokenyaw - 11/25/2008 10:40:36 PM
- Why do some denialists claim to be environmentalists? - pwokenyaw - 11/25/2008 5:52:52 AM
  - I don't know. - TB - 11/25/2008 5:09:27 PM
    - TB... - et - 11/25/2008 6:24:36 PM
      - Go down the posts on this subject and read your second paragraph again. (n/t) - TB - 11/25/2008 6:44:05 PM
        
        The dynamics of global warming/climate change arent goverened by discourse here in HZ. - end transmission - 11/25/2008 7:04:35 PM
    - Same reason as the reaction we have against evolution deniers. (n/t) - pwokenyaw - 11/25/2008 5:38:23 PM
      - Unfortunately... - TB - 11/25/2008 6:17:35 PM
        
        Re-state that in a less ambiguous manner, please. - et - 11/25/2008 6:27:51 PM
        
        re: Re-state that in a less ambiguous manner, please. - TB - 11/25/2008 6:59:18 PM
        
        No - Marsby - 11/27/2008 7:54:20 PM
- More on the "petition" - ARRELL - 11/25/2008 2:54:48 AM
  - The Climate Underground - ER - 11/25/2008 4:48:42 AM
    - They are a political/corporate group.... NOT a scientific group... - ARRELL - 11/25/2008 5:06:44 AM
      - Unlike the United Nations (n/t) - TB - 11/25/2008 6:18:43 PM
        
        Did you have anything to say, or are you trying to meet your one-liner quota? - ARRELL - 11/25/2008 6:51:01 PM
        
        The difference is... - TB - 11/25/2008 7:04:53 PM
        
        When Will You Admit That Businesses Are Based On Self Centered Greed? - Marsby - 11/27/2008 8:28:40 PM
      - re: They are a political/corporate group.... NOT a scientific group... - Lee - 11/25/2008 12:55:11 PM
        
        More nonsense.... - ARRELL - 11/25/2008 2:39:59 PM
        
        And who funds them? Anybody at all "political?" (n/t) - TB - 11/25/2008 6:42:31 PM
        
        Did you have anything to say, or are you trying to meet your one-liner quota? (n/t) - ARRELL - 11/25/2008 6:48:55 PM
        
        Are they talking about AGW or just GW? - Lee - 11/25/2008 6:23:25 PM
        
        They are talking about AGW, and the point is that the science isn't in doubt - ARRELL - 11/25/2008 6:41:05 PM
- Greenhouse Gas Hypothesis Violates Fundamentals of Physics - S - 11/24/2008 9:11:01 PM
  - That is complete BS.... - ARRELL\ - 11/25/2008 2:39:29 AM
    - It must be true, it's on the internet. - ER - 11/25/2008 3:04:02 AM
      - re:The main stream media is obviously covering only one sided stories. (n/t) - Johannes - 11/26/2008 9:00:03 PM
  - re: Greenhouse Gas Hypothesis Violates Fundamentals of Physics - gbaikie - 11/24/2008 9:29:27 PM
- Hans Schreuder's Letter to EPA - S - 11/23/2008 10:33:42 PM
- Sometimes ordinary people get it right, even if they have wierd reasons. - zed - 11/23/2008 1:41:17 AM
  - Weird Reasons, Specious Arguments, Junk Science - S - 11/23/2008 9:28:10 PM
- It is a well-known scientifical fack - - - - Bowser - 11/23/2008 12:22:41 AM
  - Facts and Fancies - S - 11/23/2008 9:58:00 PM
    - Who exactly are you trying to fool? - ARRELL - 11/25/2008 5:41:03 AM
      - re: I can agree with everything except - Johannes - 11/26/2008 10:12:10 PM
      - re: Who exactly are you trying to fool? - gbaikie - 11/25/2008 8:41:34 AM
        
        "Sea level have not risen significantly in the last hundred years, nor are they expected to rise much in next hundred years."- where do you get this nonsense? - ARRELL - 11/25/2008 12:35:57 PM
        
        Your graphs actually agree with each other - Laurie Street - 11/25/2008 3:55:20 PM
        
        re: Your graphs actually agree with each other - gbaikie - 11/26/2008 8:12:08 AM
        
        where do you get this nonsense? - gbaikie - 11/25/2008 1:26:27 PM
        
        Think it through... - ARRELL - 11/25/2008 3:02:57 PM
        
        re: Think it through... - gbaikie - 11/26/2008 1:22:40 AM
        
        Entire first paragraph vanished.... - ARRELL - 11/25/2008 3:08:35 PM
        
        re: Entire first paragraph vanished.... - gbaikie - 11/26/2008 1:40:03 AM
    - I certainly am connecting those dots. - Bowser - 11/23/2008 10:31:44 PM
      - Dots can be connected in many ways - S - 11/23/2008 10:47:27 PM
- Who ARE these people? - ER - 11/22/2008 11:31:42 PM
  - re: Who ARE these people? - ER - 11/23/2008 3:04:21 AM
    - Bingo. - Bowser - 11/23/2008 6:27:27 AM
      - re: Bingo. - gbaikie - 11/23/2008 11:45:37 AM
        
        Socialism, for one. - Bowser - 11/23/2008 10:36:22 PM
        
        re: Socialism, for one. - gbaikie - 11/23/2008 11:05:19 PM
        
        You asked for ways to control greed. You got them. Now go away. (n/t) - Bowser - 11/24/2008 3:24:43 AM
        
        I take you agree with what I said? (n/t) - gbaikie - 11/24/2008 4:01:42 AM
    - "economic and political interests" - TB - 11/23/2008 5:31:53 AM
      - re: "economic and political interests" - ER - 11/23/2008 6:40:53 AM
        
        I disagree. - TB - 11/23/2008 4:56:26 PM
        
        Feel free. - ER - 11/23/2008 5:42:16 PM
    - re: Who ARE these people? - gbaikie - 11/23/2008 4:41:52 AM
      - I stand by my statement. Go in peace. (n/t) - ER - 11/23/2008 5:25:02 AM
  - A response - TB - 11/23/2008 2:59:25 AM
    - Give Me A Scientific Reason That Increasing A Greenhouse Gas Won't Warm a Planet's Atmosphere - Marsby - 11/24/2008 6:13:53 AM
      - Photosynthesis - S - 11/24/2008 9:42:26 PM
        
        That's Handwaiving Not Reason - Marsby - 11/24/2008 10:23:14 PM
        
        "Try using Occam's razor folks." - S - 11/26/2008 10:02:23 PM
        
        re: "Try using Occam's razor folks." - Faulty Attempt - Marsby - 11/28/2008 2:05:18 AM
        
        re: That's Handwaiving Not Reason - gbaikie - 11/25/2008 2:51:42 AM
        
        "Cold ocean absorbs CO2 and warm oceans release CO2. "- Yet the ocean acidity is INCREASING due to increased CO2.... - ARRELL - 11/25/2008 3:31:36 PM
        
        re: "Cold ocean absorbs CO2 and warm oceans release CO2. "- Yet the ocean acidity is INCREASING due to increased CO2.... - gbaikie - 11/26/2008 1:58:09 AM
        
        Too Many Variables For You To Juggle - Marsby - 11/27/2008 8:55:16 PM
        
        Do your own damn research... - ARRELL - 11/26/2008 8:10:19 AM
        
        re: Do your own damn research... - gbaikie - 11/26/2008 8:43:21 AM
        
        You have a point. - Marsby - 11/25/2008 5:58:12 AM
        
        re: That's Handwaiving Not Reason - pwokenyaw - 11/24/2008 11:56:41 PM
      - re: Give Me A Scientific Reason That Increasing A Greenhouse Gas Won't Warm a Planet's Atmosphere - gbaikie - 11/24/2008 8:03:42 PM
        
        Using Your Own Numbers - Marsby - 11/24/2008 11:12:57 PM
        
        re: Using Your Own Numbers - gbaikie - 11/25/2008 1:33:04 AM
        
        More Misleading "Facts" From GB - Marsby - 11/24/2008 10:47:04 PM
        
        re: More Misleading "Facts" From GB - gbaikie - 11/25/2008 7:10:50 AM
      - re: Could you direct me to the experiment? - Johannes - 11/24/2008 5:40:19 PM
        
        try "On the Influence of Carbonic Acid in the Air Upon the Temperature of the Ground", Philosophical Magazine 1896(41): 237-76) (n/t) - pwokenyaw - 11/24/2008 6:34:09 PM
        
        re: try "On the Influence of Carbonic Acid in the Air Upon the Temperature of the Ground", Philosophical Magazine 1896(41): 237-76) - gbaikie - 11/24/2008 8:29:44 PM
        
        re: try "On the Influence of Carbonic Acid in the Air Upon the Temperature of the Ground", Philosophical Magazine 1896(41): 237-76) - gbaikie - 11/24/2008 9:10:23 PM
        
        When - Nick Hoffman - 11/25/2008 2:53:24 AM
        
        re: When - gbaikie - 11/25/2008 4:49:34 AM
        
        re: When - nick hoffman - 11/25/2008 8:48:48 AM
        
        re: When - gbaikie - 11/25/2008 12:49:53 PM
        
        re: Addendum - Johannes - 11/24/2008 5:57:34 PM
  - re: Who ARE these people? - gbaikie - 11/23/2008 2:10:10 AM
    - re: Who ARE these people? - ER - 11/23/2008 3:10:39 AM
      - Misplaced post, - ER - 11/23/2008 3:22:54 AM
- re: Scientists Say No to AGW, Sign Petition - Post Sputnik - 11/22/2008 10:50:28 PM
- re: Scientists Say No to AGW, Sign Petition - gbaikie - 11/22/2008 10:10:53 PM

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