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Efforts to support global climate-change falls: Poll - gbaikie - 11/28/2008 2:36:09 PM

"FRONTLINE" on Chavez - Bowser - 11/26/2008 6:23:07 AM
- Wait, you must support him. You're a liberal - azstrummer - 11/26/2008 2:24:35 PM
  - Where Chavez is instructive... - TB - 11/26/2008 7:26:11 PM
    - Leftist websites - azstrummer - 11/26/2008 8:07:19 PM
      - The Middle - TB - 11/26/2008 9:21:37 PM
  - Thoughts on Chavez. - Bowser - 11/26/2008 4:55:31 PM
  - Now that we've established Frontline is not Red propaganda... - ER - 11/26/2008 3:17:49 PM
    - For the record... - TB - 11/26/2008 7:02:05 PM
- I saw it, didnt change my opinion of him... - ARRELL - 11/26/2008 8:02:21 AM
  - re: I saw it, didnt change my opinion of him... - Marcia - 11/28/2008 2:09:55 AM
  - The Russians are getting cozy with Chavez - Socrates II - 11/26/2008 2:53:56 PM
    - Man, do you have any idea how many countries our warships visit? - azstrummer - 11/26/2008 7:33:24 PM
      - Georgia might disagree with you regarding Russia's days of armed invasion being over - Socrates II - 11/26/2008 8:03:10 PM
        
        You may want to revisit the accounts of how that started. (n/t) - Bowser - 11/26/2008 8:51:20 PM
        
        Oh but that would be a liberal bias of course. (n/t) - azstrummer - 11/26/2008 10:15:08 PM
        
        Do what? - azstrummer - 11/26/2008 8:22:41 PM
        
        re: Do what? - TB - 11/26/2008 9:36:32 PM
        
        I'm going to ask you to back all those assertions up - azstrummer - 11/26/2008 10:13:56 PM
        
        I find it a bit disturbing that you think I should have to. - TB - 11/26/2008 10:59:16 PM
        
        I'd love to play you in chess - azstrummer - 11/27/2008 5:19:53 PM
        
        No, you wouldn't. - TB - 11/27/2008 8:50:38 PM
        
        Chess strategy - ER - 11/27/2008 6:54:16 PM

Women Bite Dogs in Iraq - gbaikie - 11/28/2008 1:23:21 AM

Kozmic Inflation - ER - 11/26/2008 3:53:10 PM
- The dollar is now backed by subprime securities. - Bowser - 11/27/2008 7:02:29 PM
- Possibly - RobVG - 11/27/2008 1:10:23 AM
  - "What's in YOUR wallet?" - Andrew - 11/27/2008 1:35:22 AM

Bailout perspective - RobVG - 11/27/2008 5:26:10 PM

broken windows theory - gbaikie - 11/27/2008 4:28:00 AM

Oh, oh! Being floated - "Send Bill Clinton to the Senate" - Bowser - 11/27/2008 12:11:36 AM
- Not a big enough podium and he'd have to share the spotlight. (n/t) - Eri - 11/27/2008 12:26:54 AM

It's turning out that there really was a high turnout in the election after all... - z - 11/26/2008 7:58:02 PM

ER's Cars - ER - 11/22/2008 3:46:40 AM
- re: ER's Cars - REB - 11/26/2008 4:46:52 PM
- Car? - RNE - 11/25/2008 3:58:00 PM
- Bows ER's Cars - Bowser - 11/22/2008 5:10:56 AM
  - How did this get on Current Events? - Lindy - 11/22/2008 4:53:20 PM
    - Actually, I wanted to kick off a thread on inflation in the auto industry. - ER - 11/22/2008 8:39:16 PM
      - They really aren't the same product. - Bowser - 11/23/2008 4:34:21 AM
      - Your not looking at inflation per se. - RobVg - 11/22/2008 9:30:19 PM
        
        No one put a gun to their head and made them buy it. (n/t) - ER - 11/22/2008 10:23:35 PM
        
        They didn't need to, there was money to burn. - RobVG - 11/22/2008 10:52:08 PM
        
        Triceratops - Nick Hoffman - 11/24/2008 12:28:36 AM
        
        re: Triceratops - TB - 11/24/2008 4:15:59 AM
  - 300 buck Cars in School - carl - 11/22/2008 2:51:03 PM
    - Got long- don't bother. - RobVG - 11/22/2008 6:16:12 PM
    - My first car... - Algorithms - 11/22/2008 3:38:21 PM
      - re: My first car... - ER - 11/22/2008 3:49:19 PM
        
        re: My first car... - Eri - 11/22/2008 5:49:03 PM
        
        oops! link - Eri - 11/22/2008 5:50:11 PM
        
        I had one of those - Lindy - 11/22/2008 6:33:55 PM
        
        LOOKS lika TOYOPET - carl - 11/24/2008 7:46:57 PM
        
        Accckkkk! - Eri - 11/22/2008 6:50:35 PM
        
        re: Accckkkk! - Lindy - 11/23/2008 3:32:50 AM
        
        LOL. And here I thought you were more ancient than me. ;-) (n/t) - Eri - 11/23/2008 6:36:26 AM
        
        Lucas - Algorithms - 11/22/2008 5:24:56 PM
        
        The Lucas Legend - ER - 11/22/2008 6:46:57 PM
        
        1977 Jag XKE Convertable - carl - 11/24/2008 7:49:13 PM
        
        the 120 was the E-type's predecessor - ER - 11/24/2008 7:57:08 PM

Russian academic's prediction is food for thought - JEKing - 11/25/2008 10:22:27 PM
- The ethnic divisions of the USSR were much deeper. And even Palin's husband advocated a US breakup. - Bowser - 11/26/2008 4:12:59 AM
- Or perhaps the by-product of a different type of consumption! - z - 11/26/2008 1:19:02 AM
  - Nuts. There go my plans for "Broszylvania." (n/t) - TB - 11/26/2008 1:46:23 AM

"Karzai: Fixed end date needed for Afghan war", end to airstrikes, home searches. - Bowser - 11/25/2008 6:58:21 PM

$306 billion for Citi, 0 for auto makers. Is Citi less foolish than GM? - Bowser - 11/24/2008 5:18:48 AM
- Protest sign on Wall Street (language warning) - Laurie Street - 11/24/2008 6:49:47 PM
  - Ummm - Eri - 11/25/2008 4:44:18 AM
    - In a less civilized country - Socrates II - 11/25/2008 1:45:44 PM

Michael Yon - TB - 11/17/2008 7:17:04 AM
- More Michael Yon - TB - 11/18/2008 5:38:50 PM
  - Still more Michael Yon - TB - 11/25/2008 2:17:01 AM
- Afganistan / Pakistan - dtb - 11/17/2008 11:53:07 PM

Who do you feel is the most influential foreign leader? - Jody - 11/18/2008 5:23:16 PM
- Fidel CASTRO - carl - 11/22/2008 2:52:50 PM
- Define "influential foreign leader" - Robert - 11/19/2008 6:43:33 PM
  - re: Define "influential foreign leader" - gbaikie - 11/20/2008 4:42:19 AM
  - "It's time for a genuine world government." - TB - 11/19/2008 7:47:54 PM
    - Try facing reality - Robert - 11/19/2008 11:12:31 PM
      - One more comment on "global government" - TB - 11/20/2008 3:05:17 AM
        
        20 percent of the world's population lives in communist China alone - nick hoffman - 11/20/2008 11:22:47 AM
        
        Weird. Why would so many people live alone in China?? (n/t) - McFly - 11/20/2008 3:17:52 PM
        
        Gender Imbalance from all those years of terminating female pregnancies, see. No man may be an island in china... - yeti - 11/21/2008 8:39:56 PM
      - Reality: - TB - 11/20/2008 12:42:49 AM
        
        What a waste of bits - Robert - 11/20/2008 6:57:21 PM
        
        Rothkopf - TB - 11/21/2008 12:13:28 AM
        
        re: Rothkopf - Robert - 11/22/2008 5:46:01 PM
        
        re: Rothkopf - TB - 11/22/2008 7:36:34 PM
        
        And incidentally... - TB - 11/22/2008 7:46:09 PM
        
        Listen to you - Robert - 11/23/2008 7:33:52 PM
        
        re: I don't need you or anyone else lecturing me about intelligence or credibility - Yeti - 11/21/2008 4:01:58 PM
- A case can be made for Hu Jintao, Peoples Republic of China - Bowser - 11/19/2008 6:17:49 AM
- re: Who do you feel is the most influential foreign leader? - gbaikie - 11/19/2008 5:10:50 AM
- Fidel Castro - ER - 11/19/2008 3:58:42 AM
  - El Comandante also deserves some kind of award for delivering mind-numbing 4-hour speeches... (n/t) - z - 11/24/2008 1:59:00 PM
  - re: Fidel Castro - Marcia - 11/23/2008 7:10:11 PM
- re: Who do you feel is the most influential foreign leader? - Nick Hoffman - 11/19/2008 12:07:26 AM

"Time to top up strategic oil reserve?" No,it's time to study the issue. - Bowser - 11/23/2008 1:59:04 AM
- There's more to this than meets the eye. - ER - 11/23/2008 3:47:38 AM
  - Hmmm. Two scenarios. One guy says producers would appreciate it. - Bowser - 11/23/2008 5:03:11 AM
    - "the Saudis are pressuring Bush to keep demand as low as possible." - ER - 11/23/2008 6:11:31 AM
      - Sometimes it's just supply and demand. - TB - 11/23/2008 6:30:15 AM
        
        Supply and demand doesn't answer Bowser's question. - ER - 11/23/2008 6:49:56 AM
        
        re: Bowser's question. - TB - 11/23/2008 6:35:37 PM
        
        Reality check. - Bowser - 11/24/2008 2:45:01 AM
        
        Hey, I'm the man with the answers. - ER - 11/23/2008 11:30:07 PM

Barack Obama doesn't fear the enraged, impotent Netroots - gbaikie - 11/23/2008 7:14:01 AM

Cheney and Gonzales Indicted BREAKING NEWS - Lindy (yes there is a Santa Claus) - 11/20/2008 3:43:08 AM
- Something is weird there - Laurie Street - 11/20/2008 6:12:31 AM
  - Apparently the act of one nutjob D.A. who is about to lose his job. - TB - 11/20/2008 7:50:51 AM
    - Either the DA is a nutjob...or... - ER - 11/20/2008 12:00:15 PM
      - Look him up. - TB - 11/20/2008 8:06:37 PM
        
        "I didn't come by that conclusion lightly. " - Lindy - 11/21/2008 1:03:18 AM
        
        Lindy: - TB - 11/21/2008 3:09:23 AM
        
        "rank ignorance and stupidity" - McFly - 11/21/2008 6:40:52 PM
        
        Don't wory, McFly, he didn't mean *you*, per-se.... You're okay... See... Its just anyone else who holds the same conclusions and premises.... (n/t) - Yeti - 11/21/2008 8:52:48 PM
        
        Are you two now competing for professional cry-baby awards? - SDAI-Tech1 - 11/22/2008 1:28:59 AM
        
        Well, what else could we do? You had the 'Trivial Insights', the 'Delusions of Grandeur' *and* the 'Ironically Blind to Irony' awards sewn up (n/t) - Yeti - 11/22/2008 4:47:47 AM
        
        And the 'Worst Oracle Ever' award. (n/t) - alcaray - 11/22/2008 6:42:23 PM
        
        Don't forget the 'Created Facts' Award... (n/t) - Yeti - 11/23/2008 12:30:59 AM
        
        See...you are at least trying. That's a very good sign. - SDAI-Tech1 - 11/22/2008 5:43:58 AM
        
        I'll save this link - Lindy - 11/21/2008 12:44:30 PM
      - The truth is out there. - ER - 11/20/2008 12:39:21 PM
- Hot Damn! - Eri - 11/20/2008 4:35:21 AM
  - "NUt Jobs" are names Conservatives give to people they don't like - Lindy - 11/20/2008 12:52:12 PM

This economy reminds me of a skier just off the end of a jump. - Bowser - 11/21/2008 7:45:51 AM
- re: This economy reminds me of a skier just off the end of a jump. - Jack Herer - 11/21/2008 5:37:04 PM
  - We Felt the FIRST STINGS in 1998 - carl - 11/21/2008 8:14:25 PM
    - I predicted the crash in 1987 - ER - 11/21/2008 9:05:58 PM
      - The current crash was predicted in the mid 80's - Eri - 11/22/2008 3:19:51 AM
      - Oh, I saw it too. - azstrummer - 11/21/2008 9:45:02 PM
        
        We can see it all around us. - ER - 11/22/2008 3:04:58 PM
        
        On entropy and decay - Lindy - 11/22/2008 4:31:45 PM
        
        Obama no SAVIOR - carl - 11/22/2008 2:45:26 PM
        
        Energy is the ability to do work. - ER - 11/22/2008 3:18:32 PM

Mitch McConnell: Obama off to a good start and relieved Bush departing - Algorithms - 11/22/2008 3:14:32 PM

Orale! Stock Market soars after Obama names first Hispanic to his cabinet - z - 11/21/2008 9:57:25 PM
- As much as I'd like to believe Obama has that power - azstrummer - 11/21/2008 10:04:26 PM

Paulson: I don't know what the problem is but regulation isn't the answer. - Bowser - 11/21/2008 12:07:14 AM
- Maybe the problem is semantic. - ER - 11/21/2008 3:09:08 PM
  - Does "government management" have a better ring than "government regulation?" (n/t) - TB - 11/21/2008 6:48:26 PM
    - Heh, heh. Either has a better "ring" than bonuses to broke to depression to bailout to bonuses. - Bowser - 11/21/2008 9:29:41 PM
- Too many "regulations" - Lindy - 11/21/2008 1:13:38 AM

Dont GM and Ford have Governement CONTRACTS? - carl - 11/21/2008 8:17:15 PM

If the S&P 500 drops about 50 more points, it will be at its lowest point in 12+ years. - Yeti - 11/19/2008 10:44:59 PM
- Actually, I was wrong. Its now trading below its 2002 low point - Yeti - 11/20/2008 5:20:22 PM
  - The chart does tend to put some perspective on it. (n/t) - TB - 11/20/2008 8:11:33 PM
    - Indeed it does. - Yeti - 11/20/2008 9:01:53 PM
- lowest point - TB - 11/20/2008 12:29:12 AM
  - The S&P 500 was at 14,000? (n/t) - Yeti - 11/20/2008 5:02:24 PM
    - The DOW. As if the point is invalidated. - TB - 11/20/2008 8:11:10 PM
      - Okay, do you even grok how full-of-it you sound? - Yeti - 11/20/2008 8:55:45 PM
        
        Dude, you won the election. The Democrats own the entire bus. You can turn it off now. - TB - 11/20/2008 11:20:32 PM
        
        Are you unaware that transition does not take place until Jan? - Yeti - 11/21/2008 4:25:21 AM
        
        should read: You want to Chicken Quibble over cause of the toilet-bowl ring as we circle the drain? (n/t) - Yeti - 11/20/2008 9:11:44 PM
  - One would wonder. - Bowser - 11/20/2008 1:05:25 AM

Lindy was right. - ER - 11/19/2008 9:33:13 PM
- re: Lindy was right. - I'm sure she was. - Marcia - 11/19/2008 10:11:34 PM
  - Every day - Lindy - 11/20/2008 3:30:06 AM
    - My parents are dead so that's a last resort. (n/t) - Eri - 11/20/2008 4:37:08 AM
      - Eri, as someone said to us a while back. - RNE - 11/20/2008 9:58:14 PM
      - re: My parents are dead so that's a last resort. - Hate to say it, but, exactly. - Now more than ever... - Marcia - 11/20/2008 5:42:51 AM
    - Notice how you don't hear the comment "we've probably touched bottom" anymore? (n/t) - McFly - 11/20/2008 3:53:38 AM
      - We don't hear "innovative financial instruments" any more either. (n/t) - ER - 11/20/2008 1:07:47 PM

"Debt Man Walking" - TB - 11/19/2008 9:39:57 PM
- Pyramid building--like in a Ponzi pyramid? - ER - 11/19/2008 11:18:10 PM
  - re: Pyramid building--like in a Ponzi pyramid? - Marcia - 11/20/2008 12:28:46 AM
    - re: Pyramid building--at least you get a REAL stone pyramid - nick hoffman - 11/20/2008 11:18:40 AM
      - Hell or high water--De Nile is a river in Egypt. - ER - 11/20/2008 1:03:48 PM
  - I don't think that tax cut went into the stock market. Return to low, slow. - Bowser - 11/20/2008 12:11:35 AM
    - I wasn't making a political or economic comment. - ER - 11/20/2008 12:14:16 AM
      - And I could well have left off that last sentence. - Bowser - 11/20/2008 12:57:52 AM
- re: "Debt Man Walking" - Marcia - 11/19/2008 10:49:46 PM

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