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Why were so many women turned off by McCain's personal presentation last night? - z - 9/27/2008 3:10:52 PM
- Nice try II - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/27/2008 8:17:31 PM
- Most women can spot a good liar - Lindy - 9/27/2008 3:25:01 PM
  - Another possibility: - Mary Anne - 9/27/2008 7:55:53 PM
    - Insightful, thanks - McFly - 9/28/2008 6:37:48 AM
    - Condescension - TB - 9/28/2008 2:19:25 AM
      - It seems you don't even need to watch the debate. (n/t) - alcaray - 9/28/2008 5:32:17 PM
      - Biden knows how to be a gentleman. - Mary Anne - 9/28/2008 2:28:54 AM
        
        We talking about the same Biden? (n/t) - TB - 9/28/2008 3:37:10 AM
      - Courtesy to an maroon is often confused for condescension. - Bowser - 9/28/2008 2:25:09 AM
        
        Tell me about it. (n/t) - TB - 9/28/2008 3:37:42 AM
        
        OK. Treating Palin as if she's a viable candidate with valid ideas is courteous. - Bowser - 9/28/2008 1:48:36 PM
        
        TELL me about it! (n/t) - TB - 9/28/2008 6:08:32 PM
    - Exactly right! - Eri - 9/27/2008 9:46:23 PM

WARNING: New scam E-mail - DO NOT get fooled! - ARRELL - 9/27/2008 4:34:50 PM
- This is your Government and we approved this message. (n/t) - Eri - 9/28/2008 2:16:42 AM
- Endorsed by Ed McMahon and George Bush! (n/t) - Bowser - 9/27/2008 5:23:25 PM

Even conservatives are starting to see that Palin needs to go.... - ARRELL - 9/26/2008 11:15:40 PM
- Too little, too late - McFly - 9/27/2008 3:54:24 AM
  - re: Too little, too late. - For whom? - Marcia - 9/27/2008 4:13:59 AM
    - Umm...sure...ok... - McFly - 9/27/2008 5:26:45 AM
      - Ummm...sure...watch out... - Bowser - 9/27/2008 5:45:13 AM
- Link - ARRELL - 9/26/2008 11:20:10 PM
  - Why does she worry Democrats so much? - TB - 9/27/2008 12:23:04 AM
    - Because she's not qualified to be President. - Mary Anne - 9/27/2008 2:33:55 PM
      - Do principles of government have anything to do with this election? - TB - 9/27/2008 5:06:13 PM
        
        William Henry Harrison - Mary Anne - 9/27/2008 10:10:27 PM
    - We are soaking in the benefits of Conservatives running things. - Bowser - 9/27/2008 4:25:29 AM
    - That was NOT a democrat- it was a worried and disgusted conervative! - ARRELL - 9/27/2008 12:28:28 AM
      - I know who she is, RL. - TB - 9/27/2008 12:58:15 AM
        
        Christ! What is wrong with you?! - ARRELL - 9/27/2008 1:04:00 AM
        
        re: What is wrong with you? - TB - 9/27/2008 1:16:18 AM
        
        re: What is wrong with you? - ARRELL - 9/27/2008 3:07:48 AM
        
        re: What is wrong with you? - TB - 9/27/2008 4:09:31 AM
        
        "If everybody minded their own business," said the Duchess in a hoarse growl, "the world would go around a deal faster than it does." - alcaray - 9/27/2008 2:44:09 AM
        
        What makes YOU think you know Palin? - Eri - 9/27/2008 2:31:33 AM
        
        re: What is wrong with you? - Marcia - 9/27/2008 2:08:39 AM
        
        re: What is wrong with you? - Sorry, TB, I should have rephrased that differently in the title. - Marcia - 9/27/2008 2:11:12 AM
        
        No problem. I know how the automatic "re:" system works. (n/t) - TB - 9/27/2008 2:30:41 AM
        
        re: No problem. I know how the automatic "re:" system works. - Marcia - 9/27/2008 3:09:37 AM

Kerry vs. Bush redux...not a good sign. - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/27/2008 10:48:33 AM
- "Okay...let's see more Democrats and only 51 percent think Obama did better? So if we balance those views out even among Democrats...McCain is considered the winner of the debate." - ROTFLMAO, CAUGHT… - ARRELL - 9/27/2008 12:27:29 PM
  - Nice try, - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/27/2008 7:53:08 PM
    - Not even fox news is trying to spin this as a win for McCain... - ARRELL - 9/27/2008 9:04:09 PM
  - Link for the cbs article - ARRELL - 9/27/2008 12:34:51 PM
    - Two points: - TB - 9/27/2008 4:38:27 PM
      - Tie race - z - 9/27/2008 5:11:58 PM
        
        That's going to be the Left's excuse. - TB - 9/27/2008 5:21:02 PM
        
        When voters openly and honestly tell exit pollsters that race influenced their vote - z - 9/27/2008 5:46:29 PM
      - "it's sweating howitzer shells. So are you. " - DAMN STRAIGHT! - ARRELL - 9/27/2008 4:43:19 PM

Aaarrrgh! What some fine booty we've got here! - Lee - 9/26/2008 5:45:57 PM
- Darn. I thought perhaps you'd uncovered some new hot pix of Sarah Palin... (n/t) - z - 9/26/2008 6:33:33 PM
  - Some new hot pix of Sarah Palin??? - Lee - 9/26/2008 7:36:08 PM
    - Here you go - REB - 9/26/2008 8:23:28 PM
      - Has anyone seen a picture from her beauty pageant days? - alcaray - 9/26/2008 9:32:43 PM
        
        re: Has anyone seen a picture from her beauty pageant days? - The_Rabbit - 9/27/2008 12:16:21 AM
        
        huh (n/t) - alcaray - 9/27/2008 12:51:47 AM
      - I know it's fake, but still.... - z - 9/26/2008 9:27:52 PM
      - This is the real reason MCCain wanted to go back to Washington - REB - 9/26/2008 8:27:01 PM
        
        Come on, that was funny. Lighten up folks- it's Friday (n/t) - REB - 9/26/2008 9:24:46 PM
    - Yuck! You consider her a 'GILF'?! (n/t) - ARRELL - 9/26/2008 8:03:31 PM

What House Republicans are pushing for - TB - 9/26/2008 1:33:53 AM
- I like the sound of that one better - Lindy - 9/26/2008 9:12:20 PM
- Cut taxes and regulations, and then let the wealthy inject the new capital. Instead of using taxes. - Bowser - 9/26/2008 2:51:29 AM
  - Perhaps this will be Bush's true legacy - McFly - 9/26/2008 1:28:33 PM
  - The other way is better? (n/t) - TB - 9/26/2008 3:41:11 AM
    - Yes. Your way the government gives them the money to effect the bailout. - Bowser - 9/26/2008 3:54:58 AM
      - re: Yes. Your way the government gives them the money to effect the bailout. - TB - 9/26/2008 6:05:30 AM
        
        The answer to all problems is to not tax the wealthy, and stop regulating, too? - Bowser - 9/26/2008 3:13:01 PM
        
        "The answer is not to keep doing what we have been doing only harder." - Lindy - 9/26/2008 11:51:55 PM

"Deal said to be near on big financial bailout." McCain, grandstanding in way. - Bowser - 9/25/2008 12:57:25 PM
- Deal reached - now what will be McCain's new excuse for ducking the debate? Or will he actually show up? (n/t) - z - 9/25/2008 7:06:02 PM
  - Not so fast... - podrock - 9/26/2008 3:45:36 AM
  - "The bulldog ate my homework." (n/t) - ER - 9/25/2008 8:15:46 PM
- re: Barney Frank should be dismissed from office - SteveS - 9/25/2008 1:47:58 PM
  - "It's the longest Hail Mary pass in the history of either football or Marys," House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank said, as only he could. - Bowser - 9/26/2008 1:25:44 AM
  - I've never seen such dishonest partisanship in my life. What kind of idiots do you take the american people for? - Yeti - 9/25/2008 5:57:10 PM
    - re: Yes, we all know where the buck stops - SteveS - 9/26/2008 12:29:52 PM
      - Your shrieked hypothesis is absurd on its face - Yeti - 9/26/2008 1:28:07 PM
        
        You backed up against the "spelling error" wall, too? - TB - 9/26/2008 4:22:54 PM
        
        re: "The point is the democrats had a chance to fix there championed house the poorer program" - Yeti - 9/26/2008 4:52:20 PM
        
        I don't understand. What's a "Tresaury Secy?" - TB - 9/26/2008 5:20:40 PM
        
        re: I don't understand. What's a "Tresaury Secy?" - SteveS - 9/26/2008 11:14:50 PM
        
        Yes, a reversed letter is equivalent to a paragraph that has no understandable meaning. - Yeti - 9/26/2008 6:29:14 PM
        
        That's okay. - TB - 9/26/2008 6:53:41 PM
    - re: I've never seen such dishonest partisanship in my life. What kind of idiots do you take the american people for? - Delbert - 9/25/2008 6:38:19 PM
    - Oh, lest I forget: Zoners, please join in here- What else is Bush and the right NOT to blame for? - Yeti - 9/25/2008 6:06:58 PM
      - The burgeoning insanity of the American Left? - TB - 9/25/2008 6:54:49 PM
        
        This is all you have. Assert that we are insane, insist that we are wrong, while we point out common sense and the intuitively obvious. - Yeti - 9/25/2008 7:04:17 PM
        
        Hey, I'm not the one leaving saliva specks on their monitor. (n/t) - TB - 9/25/2008 7:12:03 PM
        
        TB I'm disappointed in you. - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/26/2008 12:21:30 AM
        
        Yes, how uncouth of us to take the wrecking of our nation so seriously. (n/t) - Yeti - 9/25/2008 8:29:18 PM
        
        If you were a true patriot you would blame it on someone long dead - ARRELL - 9/26/2008 12:00:20 AM
        
        Or, Clinton. (n/t) - Yeti - 9/26/2008 3:51:57 AM
        
        "There is none so blind as they that wonâ€™t see." - Bowser - 9/25/2008 8:47:57 PM
  - Carter, now Frank. Here are some other things to factor in. - Bowser - 9/25/2008 2:19:58 PM
    - Uhh, If the USA taxpayers are Funding the BAILOUT PLAN, Have theyDone a CREDIT CHECK on them? - carl - 9/25/2008 6:41:14 PM
      - re: Uhh, If the USA taxpayers are Funding the BAILOUT PLAN, Have theyDone a CREDIT CHECK on them? - Andrew - 9/25/2008 7:36:45 PM

L.A. Grand Jury to investigate Friends of Angelo - SteveS - 9/26/2008 10:55:10 PM

Kevin Phillips on the current crisis: - ARRELL - 9/26/2008 10:20:52 PM
- Transcript - TB - 9/26/2008 10:46:23 PM

McCain spokesman explains decision to go to debate - ARRELL - 9/26/2008 10:13:14 PM

Let's play Wall Street Bailout - Eric - 9/26/2008 9:12:19 PM
- ***BREAKING NEWS*** Funding for the $700 Billion Bailout Has Been Secured! - z - 9/26/2008 9:31:19 PM
  - not so fanciful afterall - JEKing - 9/26/2008 9:55:57 PM

So what if we were talking $1.8 trillion to nationalize the oil companies? - Bowser - 9/26/2008 2:55:42 PM
- "The Great Unwashed get a giant, ongoing wedgie as they are frog-marched into financial oblivion." - Lindy - 9/26/2008 4:42:00 PM
- Venezuela - TB - 9/26/2008 4:18:13 PM
  - With a couple of small modifications... - alcaray - 9/26/2008 6:40:06 PM
    - Yup. - TB - 9/26/2008 6:49:27 PM
      - I did not read it, only your excerpt. To make clearer what an intellegent person might glean from your excerpt... - alcaray - 9/26/2008 9:31:07 PM
        
        Woops, cleaning up my inadvertant use of html... - alcaray - 9/26/2008 9:35:09 PM

Just when you thought McCain had insulted America's intelligence as much as was possible.... - ARRELL - 9/24/2008 7:30:03 PM
- Yes it is a rather pathetic move. - TAFKASE - 9/25/2008 9:49:03 AM
- re: What I'm looking for - SteveS - 9/25/2008 5:19:32 AM
- I feel badly for McCain - McFly - 9/25/2008 2:06:17 AM
- McCain is committing a HUGE mistake - one of the biggest blunders in Presidential campaign history - z - 9/25/2008 1:05:07 AM
  - Any excuse McCain - Lindy - 9/25/2008 2:20:02 AM
    - Sort of like a time-out in basketball when the other side is running away with it. (n/t) - Bowser - 9/25/2008 3:01:28 AM
  - We hope! (n/t) - Eri - 9/25/2008 1:58:56 AM
- He's been campaigning for 2 years, and all at once he's a Senator? (n/t) - Bowser - 9/25/2008 12:31:57 AM
- What McCain should do - TB - 9/25/2008 12:08:18 AM
  - Oh, god TB you are a HOOT!!!!! Were you SERIOUS?! - ARRELL - 9/25/2008 7:49:59 AM
    - You should have heard her responses about her "dealings" with countries on Alaska's borders. - ER - 9/25/2008 11:08:04 PM
      - The full interview... - ARRELL - 9/26/2008 2:14:25 AM
    - How's Biden doing lately? (n/t) - TB - 9/25/2008 3:40:24 PM
      - He invented TV in 1929..... but if you could stick to the topic that is uncomfortable for you... - ARRELL - 9/25/2008 5:44:53 PM
        
        Uncomfortable topics - TB - 9/25/2008 6:38:56 PM
        
        And a little more on Biden - TB - 9/25/2008 8:56:55 PM
      - "In what regard, Charlie?" (n/t) - LOL...*whew*...McFly - 9/25/2008 3:51:18 PM
    - Freakin' priceless - McFly - 9/25/2008 1:20:00 PM
  - "Volunteer to let his VP nominee sit in for him against Obama on Friday." - Lindy - 9/25/2008 2:31:45 AM
    - I'd wanna be front row, center - McFly - 9/25/2008 2:47:39 AM
- Brilliant political move. - Lee - 9/24/2008 8:11:02 PM
  - Seems to me... - alcaray - 9/24/2008 10:29:12 PM
  - You're absolutely right. - ER - 9/24/2008 8:19:00 PM
    - It's too transparent. McCain appears afraid and desperate. - Bowser - 9/25/2008 12:57:36 AM
      - " Clearly actors being maneuvered behind the scenes by others" - Lindy - 9/25/2008 2:34:33 AM
    - McCain has a chance to kill the bailout bill. - REB - 9/24/2008 9:02:01 PM
      - re: McCain has a chance to kill the bailout bill. - Lindy - 9/25/2008 2:36:59 AM
        
        re: McCain has a chance to kill the bailout bill. - REB - 9/25/2008 2:01:50 PM
        
        LOL - McCain flip flops and decides to debate - ARRELL - 9/26/2008 6:47:55 PM
        
        Damned if you do, damned if you donâ€™t. - REB - 9/26/2008 7:37:57 PM
        
        It was nothing more than an attempt at political theater that failed... - ARRELL - 9/26/2008 7:48:44 PM
        
        Perhaps - REB - 9/26/2008 8:06:00 PM
        
        Furthermore I predict he weill reference it tonite and try to claim that it 'proves' he is more comitted than Obama.... - ARRELL - 9/26/2008 7:53:08 PM
    - More hide-and-seek. Now McCain is emulating Palin. - Bowser - 9/24/2008 8:34:08 PM
  - I guess he estimated the stupidity of some Americans just right... (n/t) - ARRELL - 9/24/2008 8:15:02 PM
    - I can see how the finer points of strategy would be beyond you. (n/t) - Lee - 9/24/2008 8:29:27 PM
      - Finer points of stategy? - Lindy - 9/25/2008 11:45:49 AM
      - Running away from a debate because you cant defend your policies is an admission of your failures... - ARRELL - 9/24/2008 8:59:20 PM
    - I guess I am one of those stupid Americans - REB - 9/24/2008 8:23:51 PM
      - Absolutely not. - alcaray - 9/24/2008 9:43:55 PM
      - Don't be silly... - ARRELL - 9/24/2008 9:18:47 PM
        
        Maybe yâ€™all are right. - REB - 9/25/2008 4:10:24 PM
        
        "I could look in their eyes and get a good feel for who they are."- Yeah, thats a cute quaint attitude that gets you in a lot of trouble.... - ARRELL - 9/26/2008 8:35:56 PM
        
        Actually it has helped me avoid trouble. - REB - 9/26/2008 8:52:19 PM
        
        It is NOT a good attitude to take in national or foreign policy... - ARRELL - 9/26/2008 9:11:20 PM
        
        It is NOT a good attitude to take in national or foreign policy... - REB - 9/26/2008 9:31:21 PM
        
        I am not a politician, nor plan to be, so no worry there. - REB - 9/26/2008 9:23:14 PM
        
        re: Maybe y'all are right. - TB - 9/25/2008 5:12:46 PM
        
        I just jope my gut feeling is wrong... - REB - 9/25/2008 5:09:26 PM
        
        No matter who wins we are in for a LOT of pain.... - ARRELL - 9/25/2008 5:52:54 PM
        
        re: No matter who wins we are in for a LOT of pain.... - REB - 9/25/2008 6:02:53 PM
        
        I am not. - REB - 9/24/2008 9:23:26 PM
        
        You are better than those soundbites, REB - ARRELL - 9/25/2008 5:13:16 AM
        
        I am judging the man by his actions. - REB - 9/25/2008 1:59:25 PM
        
        And I showed you his actions on this issue. - ARRELL - 9/25/2008 2:03:16 PM
        
        You see what you want to. - REB - 9/25/2008 2:17:01 PM
        
        I think he would rather win an election and doesn't care about another darm thing right now. - Eri - 9/25/2008 2:04:22 AM

In the biggest bank failure in history, JPMorgan Chase will acquire massive branch network and troubled assets from Washington Mutual for $1.9 billion. (n/t) - ARRELL - 9/26/2008 1:00:27 PM
- ER was right. "U.S. gets a triple dose of bad economic news as home sales tumble, jobless rate soars, durable goods orders plunge." - Bowser - 9/26/2008 3:28:02 PM
  - ER was misquoted - ER - 9/26/2008 6:25:50 PM
    - OK. "What ER should have said was right." Sorry for the mistake. (n/t) - Bowser - 9/26/2008 9:09:25 PM
- The DRIP has BECOME a TRICLE - carl - 9/26/2008 1:32:58 PM

Meanwhile, back on "Main Street" - TB - 9/26/2008 7:09:14 PM
- Encouraging - FrankC - 9/26/2008 9:05:11 PM
- 8^) WHEW- great to hear everything looks rosy! - ARRELL - 9/26/2008 8:16:49 PM
  - Thanks be. And there's other good news. - Bowser - 9/26/2008 9:06:46 PM

BailOUT on TV-----"DEAL or NO DEAL?" - carl - 9/25/2008 6:38:38 PM
- The Bailout is dead as of Thursday 8:00 PM 9/25/2008 - Eric - 9/26/2008 10:57:54 AM
  - No ABS? - carl - 9/26/2008 1:27:58 PM
    - If the banks fail.....like a domino effect - Lindy - 9/26/2008 8:44:03 PM
- Will we make it to January 20, 2009... - Socrates II - 9/25/2008 7:23:43 PM
  - I believe locusts are next.... (n/t) - ARRELL - 9/26/2008 4:17:00 AM
    - So this is River o' Blood? (n/t) - podrock - 9/26/2008 5:12:37 AM

Republican civil war is threatening to blow up the financial bail out - z - 9/26/2008 2:34:49 PM
- re: Republican civil war - TB - 9/26/2008 4:10:01 PM
  - I believe it's what McCain is looking at. - Lee - 9/26/2008 5:21:31 PM
    - A 'Bill' has not even been written yet. By any party, Last I heard. (n/t) - Yeti - 9/26/2008 6:22:19 PM
  - Republican contract on america - Yeti - 9/26/2008 4:45:26 PM
    - Sausagemaking - TB - 9/26/2008 5:10:43 PM
      - "the best thing that could happen would be for Congress to just recess and let Wall Street work something out themselves" - Lindy - 9/26/2008 8:34:40 PM
  - No, I don't like the Bush/Paulson plan - z - 9/26/2008 4:34:06 PM

Tracking the debate - TB - 9/26/2008 7:24:32 PM

One small victory....(press release) - ER - 9/26/2008 6:49:47 PM

Palin on foreign policy- 'good guys and bad guys' - ARRELL - 9/25/2008 11:33:13 PM
- Do you suppose she thinks those who disregard US law are "bad guys?" - McFly - 9/26/2008 1:34:50 PM
- Excuse me while I upchuck. (n/t) - Eri - 9/26/2008 4:18:19 AM
- So who would you say the good guys are? - Lee - 9/26/2008 2:37:47 AM
- link-CBS Evening News - ARRELL - 9/25/2008 11:55:48 PM
  - Saw the clip. It was hard. I felt sorry for her. - Bowser - 9/26/2008 12:51:22 AM

And the bailout's fine print time bomb - it's ongoing. - Bowser - 9/25/2008 1:41:33 AM
- If the government promises to buy those bad loans... - ER - 9/25/2008 8:25:15 PM
- Secretary can purchaseup to $700,000,000,000 in mortgages???? - Is that 7 TRILLION - 9/25/2008 11:26:07 AM
  - seven hundred billion, or 0.7 trillion (n/t) - ARRELL - 9/25/2008 3:05:05 PM
- re: It's a complete disaster...Bush made such a wonderful speech - TAFKASE - 9/25/2008 9:37:28 AM
- "Bailout Could Deepen Crisis, CBO Chief Says" - Bowser - 9/25/2008 3:58:43 AM
  - The CBO has zero Credibility here... - TAFKASE - 9/25/2008 9:52:10 AM
    - And you have HOW much? (n/t) - Bowser - 9/25/2008 12:30:23 PM
      - In general its best to assume reality is the opposite of what scott claims.... - ARRELL - 9/26/2008 1:16:52 PM

R-E-S-P-E-C-T - ARRELL - 9/25/2008 6:01:48 PM
- For some reason Madeleine Albright never had that kind of problem... (n/t) - z - 9/26/2008 4:03:02 AM
  - Remember Golda Meir? - Bowser - 9/26/2008 4:57:26 AM
- It's a start. - Lee - 9/25/2008 6:18:05 PM
  - Not a career politician? - ER - 9/25/2008 7:45:53 PM
  - Take a look at the list of "average people" who have been President. - Mary Anne - 9/25/2008 6:57:01 PM
    - Guys and Dolls - Socrates II - 9/25/2008 7:31:34 PM

Blowing once, blowing twice, almost blown. Too much money too fast. Slow it down. - Bowser - 9/26/2008 12:20:43 AM
- Interesting - Yeti - 9/26/2008 3:43:32 AM

Zogby poll: by 56-28 Americans believe that Obama is more intelligent than McCain - z - 9/25/2008 1:53:02 AM
- Predictable right wing response - McFly - 9/25/2008 11:16:15 AM
  - An admiral's kid in the bottom 1% of the NA v. a black Harvard Law Review editor. - Bowser - 9/25/2008 12:29:31 PM
- And that's how some people decide who's smart, and who isn't. (n/t) - TB - 9/25/2008 2:13:08 AM
  - The people in the poll already made up their minds. (n/t) - alcaray - 9/25/2008 2:32:01 AM
    - I wasn't talking about the people in the poll. - TB - 9/25/2008 4:57:33 AM
      - Most rational campaigns would prefer that the public have a positive perception of their candidate. - z - 9/25/2008 4:00:04 PM
      - re:"Do you really think this is a valid data point on how smart someone is?" - alcaray - 9/25/2008 5:45:50 AM
      - Are you asking us to trust YOUR judgement on the subject? - ARRELL - 9/25/2008 5:16:46 AM
        
        "Asking" us? It wasn't a question, ARRELL!! (n/t) - McFly - 9/25/2008 11:35:35 AM
        
        :) I just found it 'elitist' that he seems to think the majority of Americans are wrong.... - ARRELL - 9/25/2008 1:26:10 PM
        
        All right. - TB - 9/25/2008 4:52:59 PM
        
        But it's just plain silly to judge and compare Presidential candidates by how "patriotic" they are! - z - 9/26/2008 3:12:09 AM
        
        I just find the idea of YOU calling other elitist hysterical... - arrell - 9/25/2008 6:20:23 PM
        
        Are you ever going to have the balls to admit when you've been called? - TB - 9/25/2008 6:56:39 PM
        
        Are you ever going to have the balls to admit when you've been wrong? (n/t) - Yeti - 9/25/2008 7:10:20 PM
        
        The party of personal responsibility always has someone else to blame... (n/t) - ARRELL - 9/26/2008 12:17:39 AM
        
        So, you think McCain is twice as patriotic as Obama? ;) (n/t) - TB - 9/25/2008 7:17:48 PM
        
        I have no doubt that you think so.... - ARRELL - 9/25/2008 11:46:20 PM
        
        re: I have no doubt that you think so.... - TB - 9/26/2008 1:22:37 AM
        
        Don't you get it? - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/26/2008 3:35:50 AM
        
        oh, I saw it all right - z - 9/26/2008 3:16:01 AM
        
        So far as I can tell, you are the only one making the inference... - alcaray - 9/25/2008 9:31:09 PM
        
        What the hell are you talking about? (n/t) - Yeti - 9/25/2008 8:31:47 PM
        
        You haven't even read the thread, have you? (n/t) - TB - 9/25/2008 8:50:44 PM
        
        My question to you: Are you ever going to have the balls to admit when you've been wrong? - Yeti - 9/25/2008 10:36:57 PM
        
        As if anyone could stop you! - alcaray - 9/25/2008 6:16:39 PM
- re: Zogby poll: by 56-28 Americans believe that Obama is more intelligent than McCain - ER - 9/25/2008 2:05:26 AM
  - Or a dumb blonde. bombshell. (n/t) - Eri - 9/25/2008 3:49:56 AM

Let's Nationalize the OIl Companies. - Eri - 9/25/2008 12:52:12 AM
- Let's Nationalize the politicians. - ER - 9/25/2008 8:28:55 PM
- I know you're being facetious... - McFly - 9/25/2008 2:33:01 AM
  - Even if nationalized there will still be executives who are getting stinking rich. - TAFKASE - 9/25/2008 9:25:29 AM
  - Of course I am--being facetious... - Eri - 9/25/2008 3:54:13 AM
    - Well, you know... - McFly - 9/25/2008 11:46:53 AM
- re: Let's Nationalize the Oil Companies. - TB - 9/25/2008 1:42:32 AM
  - It certainly wouldn't lower the gas price... - TAFKASE - 9/25/2008 9:43:58 AM
    - It's about the power - TB - 9/25/2008 5:53:00 PM
  - re: Let's Nationalize the Oil Companies. - Eri - 9/25/2008 1:57:22 AM

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